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(Seven Days)   Here's a nice little article about how restaurants cope with your made up allergies, you fragile snowflakes   (7dvt.com) divider line 228
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2014-01-20 12:19:17 PM  
I really am allergic to shellfish, but mostly my interaction with restaurants is asking if there is shellfish in a dish, and ordering something else if there is.

The real problems are when I travel in Asia...there doesn't seem to be a word in most Asian languages for "shellfish". I actually have a little card that I carry, written in the native language, which explains the problem.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-20 12:23:40 PM  
Though Prohibition Pig stops short of providing a dedicated gluten-free menu, it tries to guide special-needs diners by indicating 'V' beside vegetarian items and 'G' beside gluten-free items on the menu.

I have seen similar markings on menus around here for years and years. Maybe not always gluten-free, which is a new fashion, but vegetarian and vegan.
 
2014-01-20 12:35:23 PM  
My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.

I am a fragile snowflake though.
 
2014-01-20 12:36:04 PM  
Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.
 
2014-01-20 12:36:24 PM  
The "Portland, Ore" aspect of this article does not surprise me.

Can we have our own tag?
 
2014-01-20 12:38:05 PM  
Submitter is soooo witty, saying food allergies are fake.
 
2014-01-20 12:39:31 PM  
From the article in question:

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2014-01-20 12:40:09 PM  

Inquisitive Inquisitor: My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.

I am a fragile snowflake though.


thedish.restaurant.com

You poor poor bastard. I'm so sorry for you.
 
2014-01-20 12:40:50 PM  

ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion


i never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.
 
2014-01-20 12:42:35 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered off of the menu.


FTFY and the douches in TFA.
 
2014-01-20 12:43:12 PM  
Food allergies are the eraser on the end of God's pencil.
 
2014-01-20 12:43:22 PM  

Ivan the Tolerable: ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion

i never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.


I think they mean that gluten-free is the new trendy elimination diet, not that people with actual gluten sensitivity or Celiac disease are attempting to be fashionable.
 
2014-01-20 12:44:24 PM  
DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?

Seriously, just about every restaurant I've visited has been very accommodating to various needs and/or allergies in the party.

I wouldn't trust my life to it, though.

You know who sucks?  Applebee's sucks.  Their vegetarian option is NOTHING.  And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.
 
2014-01-20 12:45:18 PM  
I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.
 
2014-01-20 12:46:25 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.


Why, you wouldn't order a BMW at a Ford dealership ,

They gave you a product list, don't like it go to another product supplier
 
2014-01-20 12:46:38 PM  
No one is allergic to gluten.  An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.

Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.
 
2014-01-20 12:46:47 PM  
My favorite part was where they mentioned it is unknown what is causing all these allergies and sensitivities to suddenly pop up. I have a theory. We've been making the world TOO safe of a place. The weakest herd members are no longer being culled, on a wholesale level. To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum: natural selection uh, finds a way.
 
2014-01-20 12:47:02 PM  
Doesn't Applebee's just suck, in general?

I've only been twice, and both times the food sucked, regardless of persuasion.
 
2014-01-20 12:47:14 PM  
refuse, not rescues.
 
2014-01-20 12:50:14 PM  
I only know one person who is on a gluten-free diet and he has cancer. Apparently it's supposed to help with his treatment.
 
2014-01-20 12:50:20 PM  

Buttknuckle: I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.


Even if I had the  world's worst *legitimate* (ha!) "gluten allergy", I'd be too ashamed to admit it to anyone.
 
2014-01-20 12:50:25 PM  

Inquisitive Inquisitor: My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.

I am a fragile snowflake though.


At least you have a real reaction. My cousin just got elected to the school board with three other parents. The newest initiative: You have to bring in medical documentation of an allergy.

Why? Things were getting out of farking hand. You won't believe how the 3 parents (who promptly whined) whose kids supposedly have food allergies reacted. 'Take our kids to the doctor? Verify that they have an actual allergy? Forsooth!'

The allergy card is played all too often today. I wonder how these kids survive trips to the grocery store sometimes. 'Little Tommy has a nut allergy' while mom walks right by a display of peanuts somebody is scooping out into a bag. 'Little Janie is allergic to wheat.' as mom walks by the bakery where wheat flour is in the air.

FFS! There are people with legitimate allergies that are marginalized because you think your precious snowflake might be allergic because you fed them something and it didn't sit well in their tummy. You think the kid is allergic to X product? Take them to the doctor and get the test done, otherwise let the other kids have their PB&J sandwiches and their wheat flour breads.

Not only that, but it'll stop the 'it doesn't agree with your kid's tummy' that parents think are allergies. I think the article used 'intolerance' in it. When you're lactose intolerant, it means you don't digest milk like many people can. Being in the vicinity of milk isn't deadly. Some people who think their kids have nut allergies? The kid's bodies just don't process nuts properly. There isn't a question the kid won't like it if they eat nuts, but they won't have an allergic (and life threatening) reaction to them.
 
2014-01-20 12:50:51 PM  

sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten. An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.


There can be a histamine reaction to wheat, though, and it can often be misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance.
 
2014-01-20 12:51:20 PM  
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2014-01-20 12:52:05 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.


You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."
 
2014-01-20 12:53:24 PM  

Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?

<snip>

You know who sucks?  Applebee's sucks.  Their vegetarian option is NOTHING.  And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.


Georgio - The owner and head chef at D1vwife's favorite restaurant - has been known to fill a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach and place it with great ceremony in front of anyone who dares to ask for a vegetarian dish in his restaurant.  I've seen him do it twice now and it is hilarious to watch.

/try the veal.
//no, seriously, try it.  It is awesome.
 
2014-01-20 12:53:42 PM  

Trillian Astra: sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten. An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.

There can be a histamine reaction to wheat, though, and it can often be misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance.


Completely different response in the body.  if your wheat allergy is misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance (which can only be diagnosed by a biopsy of the small intestine) then you need to find a new doctor.
 
2014-01-20 12:54:08 PM  

sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten.  An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.

Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.


Actually, no they are not. An allergy is your body's auto-immune system over responding to something.
 
2014-01-20 12:54:29 PM  
You're right, subby, I should just grow a pair and eat everything. I'll just go ahead and munch on these sunflower seeaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh
 
2014-01-20 12:55:06 PM  

mr_a: I really am allergic to shellfish, but mostly my interaction with restaurants is asking if there is shellfish in a dish, and ordering something else if there is.

The real problems are when I travel in Asia...there doesn't seem to be a word in most Asian languages for "shellfish". I actually have a little card that I carry, written in the native language, which explains the problem.


I'm sure your situation is real, and a risky allergy is no laughing matter.

Having said that, I still choose to imagine your card to be like the poorly translated chinese tattoos on sorority girls.

It actually says "Picky American. Just nod and smile then serve standard dish."
 
2014-01-20 12:55:17 PM  
Eventually everyone will be allergic to everything.  It's a self-solving problem.
 
2014-01-20 12:55:20 PM  
I realize that Fark has always had a large contingent of delicate little snowflakes who's finely tuned digestive systems can barely tolerate Taco Bell or Mc Donald's But I'm very impressed by the number of "Food Allergies" that have already been expressed in this short thread.

You "allergy" and "intolereant need to stop eating out and ruin it for us normal people,r better yet open your own restaurant and deal exclusively with other pain in the customers such as yourself. You wouldn't last a week if your customers were as "intolerant" as yourselves.
 
2014-01-20 12:55:59 PM  

plcow: sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten.  An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.

Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.

Actually, no they are not. An allergy is your body's auto-immune system over responding to something.


Completely different reaction.  With an allergy, your body releases histamine.  With gluten intolerance/celiac, your body attacks the vili in your small intestine.

Not even remotely the same.
 
2014-01-20 12:56:22 PM  
FTFA: "The number of people who have a food allergy is growing, but there is no clear answer as to why."

nyulocal.com

Everyone else is doing it?  Hell, statements like "the number of people who have a food allergy is growing," is partially responsible.  The number of people who claim to have a food allergy is growing.  That I'll believe.

Also FTFA: "I think some people come in with a food intolerance that they think is an allergy."

And guess what, ignorant people are also loud (I think of them as co-morbid disorders).  If you're insecure in your specialness, you're going to pitch a fit to prove how important it is (and how important you are).

Have a serious reaction?  Take it seriously.  You think you're allergic?  Experiment.  Quietly please.
 
2014-01-20 12:56:27 PM  

Skyd1v: Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?

<snip>

You know who sucks?  Applebee's sucks.  Their vegetarian option is NOTHING.  And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.

Georgio - The owner and head chef at D1vwife's favorite restaurant - has been known to fill a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach and place it with great ceremony in front of anyone who dares to ask for a vegetarian dish in his restaurant.  I've seen him do it twice now and it is hilarious to watch.

/try the veal.
//no, seriously, try it.  It is awesome.


That's awesome! A bowl of freshly clipped Kentucky blue-grass would be even better.
 
2014-01-20 12:56:44 PM  

Buttknuckle: I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.


I'm amused when I go to Petsmart and see all the gluten-free dog foods.  Who knew?
 
2014-01-20 12:56:53 PM  

Buttknuckle: I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.


this.
 
2014-01-20 12:58:11 PM  

sprgrss: Completely different response in the body. if your wheat allergy is misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance (which can only be diagnosed by a biopsy of the small intestine) then you need to find a new doctor.


Celiac requires the biopsy. But there's at least one person in my life who has non-Celiac gluten intolerance that was diagnosed via a combination of endoscopy, allergy testing, and ruling out other dietary issues. He just gets horrible stomach issues and shiats a lot when he eats gluten. Allergies can also manifest as stomach issues like diarrhea, vomiting, and cramps. So the only way to make sure it ISN'T an allergy instead of gluten-induced IBS is to get tested by an allergist.
 
2014-01-20 12:58:45 PM  

Cold_Sassy: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.

You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."


No, I order from the menu. If I need something done differently, I fully expect to pay for it. If your menu says "No Substitutions", that's fine too. It may be a deal-breaker, but no hard feelings, I'll just go somewhere that I can get what I want.  I also tip well. I was raised on tips, so I understand why they're important.
 
2014-01-20 12:58:46 PM  
I once thought I was lactose intolerant ... but I switched to organic milk products and never had a problem since. The residual antibiotics in the dairy were enough to make the flora in my digestive tract revolt.

No actual food allergies here, despite having a metric crapload (larger than an imperial crapload for those who care about uniform standards of crapload measuring systems) of allergies to animal dander, molds, pollens, dust mites, etc. I am allergic to almost everything but food.
 
2014-01-20 12:59:26 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.


With that attitude, you are surely getting a little extra "something" in your food.
Bon apetit.
 
2014-01-20 01:00:50 PM  
"Lady at four is allergic to carrots, can you do some kale without the garnish?"
"I guess, but she had the consomme?!"
*shrug*
 
2014-01-20 01:00:50 PM  

Trillian Astra: sprgrss: Completely different response in the body. if your wheat allergy is misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance (which can only be diagnosed by a biopsy of the small intestine) then you need to find a new doctor.

Celiac requires the biopsy. But there's at least one person in my life who has non-Celiac gluten intolerance that was diagnosed via a combination of endoscopy, allergy testing, and ruling out other dietary issues. He just gets horrible stomach issues and shiats a lot when he eats gluten. Allergies can also manifest as stomach issues like diarrhea, vomiting, and cramps. So the only way to make sure it ISN'T an allergy instead of gluten-induced IBS is to get tested by an allergist.


No, the way to check for gluten intolerance is to go to a gastrointerologist.

And again, there is no such thing as a gluten allergy.  Completely different reactions.
 
2014-01-20 01:01:08 PM  

Cold_Sassy: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.

You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."


And someone who may receive tainted food.

/taint
 
2014-01-20 01:02:45 PM  
The precisely accurate terminology is confusing, but plenty of people have genuine adverse reactions to certain foods. The two women behind this blog had multiple sensitivities pop up well into adulthood:

http://survivingthefoodallergyapocalypse.wordpress.com/

They both cook very well and provide many useful recipes.
 
2014-01-20 01:03:14 PM  

PolyHatSnake: My favorite part was where they mentioned it is unknown what is causing all these allergies and sensitivities to suddenly pop up. I have a theory. We've been making the world TOO safe of a place. The weakest herd members are no longer being culled, on a wholesale level. To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum: natural selection uh, finds a way.



The short version:  Lack of exposure to pathogens (i.e. Polio) decreases the body's ability to build defenses, causing a person to be more susceptible to them.
I saw a show regarding the history of Polio; the increased number and magnitude of polio outbreaks in the US was tied directly to the increased sterilization of maternity wards.  Newborn's bodies were not building their defense systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis
(from the History section)
Before the 20th century, polio infections were rarely seen in infants before six months of age, most cases occurring in children six months to four years of age.[98] Poorer sanitation of the time resulted in a constant exposure to the virus, which enhanced a natural immunity within the population. In developed countries during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, improvements were made in community sanitation, including better sewage disposal and clean water supplies. These changes drastically increased the proportion of children and adults at risk of paralytic polio infection, by reducing childhood exposure and immunity to the disease.[98]
 
2014-01-20 01:04:28 PM  

Kanemano: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.

Why, you wouldn't order a BMW at a Ford dealership ,

They gave you a product list, don't like it go to another product supplier


However, sometimes you ask for something and have to check.  For instance, I bought a sandwich whole wheat bread at Panera once, didn't think anything of it, until my throat started to close up.  The outside of the bread looked fine.  When I opened the sandwich, I could see the bread was riddled with sunflower seeds.  I haven't had the allergy long, but now I ask whenever I think there's any chance a food might have it.  You'd be surprised how many do.  If the place I'm eating offers a salad that looks awesome, is the only healthy thing on the menu, but has sunflower seeds on it, should I A: leave and make my entire party leave, or B: ask the waiter if they can hold the sunflower seeds?
 
2014-01-20 01:04:30 PM  
Despite what the submitter asserts, I do have actual food allergies & intolerances, many of them dating back from when I was a child, some more recent, such as an intolerance to canola.

It can also be disappointing to go to a restaurant such as a Chinese buffet & not be able to partake of the Mongolian grill because there's no way to avoid cross contamination. I love lamb, but it would be grilled on the same surface that shellfish had been prepared just moments before. It's just not worth it to risk anaphylaxis.

Same reason I avoid Thai restaurants since it's pretty common for peanuts to be in quite a few of the menu items. And for the record, I've had a peanut allergy for over 45 years. Same with shellfish.
 
2014-01-20 01:05:24 PM  

sprgrss: No, the way to check for gluten intolerance is to go to a gastrointerologist.


Where did I say to not go to a gastrointerologist or that people are allergic to gluten? I just said ruling out wheat allergy should be done by an allergist who can do the actual allergy testing as well as an endoscopy to rule out Celiac.
 
2014-01-20 01:05:44 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdIXrF34Bz0

Bobby: I'd like an omelet, plain, and a chicken salad sandwich on wheat toast, no mayonnaise, no butter, no lettuce. And a cup of coffee.

Waitress: A #2, chicken salad sand. Hold the butter, the lettuce, the mayonnaise, and a cup of coffee. Anything else?

Bobby: Yeah, now all you have to do is hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you haven't broken any rules.

Waitress: You want me to hold the chicken, huh?

Bobby: I want you to hold it between your knees.
 
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