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(Addicting Info)   Arizona governor Jan Brewer says to abused kids in her state, "learn to stick up for yourself for a change" as she dissolves Child Protective Services   (addictinginfo.org) divider line 146
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2014-01-20 12:37:56 PM
Party of personal responsibility! Boot straps!!!!
 
2014-01-20 12:38:05 PM
Ok Subby. You got your greenlight.

"Enough with the uninvestigated reports of abuse and neglect," Brewer said. "Enough with the lack of transparency. And enough with the excuses."

Over 6000 uninvestigated which prompted the action. Don't know if this will work or not, but obviously the CPS there was sitting around with their thumbs up their asses doing jacksh*t.
 
2014-01-20 12:39:10 PM
CPS was telling them that WELL before our racist governor was. They were a massively farked up organization and horribly mismanaged.
 
2014-01-20 12:40:09 PM
So they did away with CPS and setup the same thing under a different name.  Hopefully it works out since something was going on there.

Not much outrage here.
 
2014-01-20 12:40:27 PM
Clarance Carter was the head of CPS, Ooooh shiat, no wonder it was a mess.
 
2014-01-20 12:40:28 PM
Ehhh.....not really.  AZ's CPS has long been embattled to say the least.  She took it away from its current department and elevated it to a Cabinet-level position.  It still exists, but with new leadership and now directly reports to her.

plus:  TFA = January 14, 2014 2:52 am

OLD NEWS IS OLD.  What's the spread on Donks/Pats?  I think that plucky #25 for Seattle is gonna have a game saving play tonight.  what time doe the game come on?
 
2014-01-20 12:40:39 PM
So, the solution to the scandal is to make the agency go away entirely, so that the uninvestigated cases just aren't cases any longer?

I can see dismissing the head of CPS, even sweeping clean the top levels entirely, but without a replacement set up, she's essentially handing these cases over to the local constabulary, who don't have the facilities, training, or manpower to adequately do the job. Then again, this is Arizona, and their solution to their budget crisis was to sell off public buildings, and then rent them from the new owners to hook the state into paying for buildings they used to own, and oddly enough, still had to pay for the upkeep for, since the contracts with the new owners doesn't put the onus of repair and maintenance on them at all. Brilliant savings there. These are not the deepest of strategists here. Or rather, they know when they scent blood in the water, the best thing to do is strike, hard, fast, and get out while the cash is still all warm from someone's pocket...
 
2014-01-20 12:41:16 PM
She finally figured out a way to get Marcia.
 
2014-01-20 12:41:46 PM
Doesn't Arizona only have old people?  What do they need CPS for!?
 
2014-01-20 12:42:08 PM
Doug Stanhope has some advice for them.

Link
 
2014-01-20 12:42:34 PM

bwilson27: Party of personal responsibility! Boot straps!!!!


Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

www.blogcdn.com

Pictured: The next governor of Arizona.
 
2014-01-20 12:43:23 PM
They especially wanted her to dismiss the Department of Economic Security director, Clarence Carter. Carter, who was appointed to his position by Brewer, was responsible for the oversight of CPS. He still has not been fired but, if Brewer has her way, CPS itself will disappear right out from under him.


The republican way: first appoint a human trashbag with no soul to purposely do a terrible job running or overseeing a government service that helps middle class or poor people. Then after a miserable failure reported by the media blame the service itself and not the people responsible for running it. Then defund the service while low info voters cheer.
 
2014-01-20 12:43:52 PM
A CPS worker found that, while the report came through the state's child-abuse hotline, it was 'mis-classified' as 'not investigated'. That classification meant that someone decided that it, along with 6,000 other reports, should not be investigated.

Well then find out who that "someone" is and fire their worthless ass.
 
2014-01-20 12:44:20 PM

desertgeek: They were a massively farked up organization and horribly mismanaged.


hubiestubert: can see dismissing the head of CPS, even sweeping clean the top levels entirely, but without a replacement set up, she's essentially handing these cases over to the local constabulary, who don't have the facilities, training, or manpower to adequately do the job.



true on both....i'm just saying the OLD ASS HEADLINE (at least by Fark's unoffical 24-hour news cycle) implies that Jan dissolved CPS, and thus, shot neglected kids and an embattled agency the double bird and crip walked offstage.  CPS in some function will still exist, just under new management.  how that management will be funded and supported (and led) is open to debate, but....yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeahhhhh....
 
2014-01-20 12:45:35 PM

Valiente: bwilson27: Party of personal responsibility! Boot straps!!!!

Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

[www.blogcdn.com image 433x300]

Pictured: The next governor of Arizona.

Republican Party
 
2014-01-20 12:46:20 PM

hubiestubert: So, the solution to the scandal is to make the agency go away entirely, so that the uninvestigated cases just aren't cases any longer?


No, she created a new cabinet level department whose head reports directly to her. This may or may not work, and she may or may not be a clusterf*ck, but at least I RTFA
 
2014-01-20 12:46:36 PM

hubiestubert: So, the solution to the scandal is to make the agency go away entirely, so that the uninvestigated cases just aren't cases any longer?


Actually it's more get rid of the ineffective agency (and the workers within), and create a new organization.
 
2014-01-20 12:46:59 PM

TNel: So they did away with CPS and setup the same thing under a different name.  Hopefully it works out since something was going on there.

Not much outrage here.


If there was a bit more detail on said replacement, there wouldn't be, but who is taking over, and how is it going to be set up, and when are they going to start to reform this replacement? She's done a bold thing, but without details on what she's replacing it with, and what is going to happen in the interim?  Local police aren't exactly equipped to handle things, and in the meantime, what in the heck is going to happen to the former caseload? The 6000 cases misreported is just a tip of the iceberg for potential harm given the tendency for folks to simply fall through the cracks already. With no real oversight, and no real case agents, in fact, having to form a new department entirely, there's a huge potential for disaster.
 
2014-01-20 12:47:06 PM
I, for one, believe that children are the future.
 
2014-01-20 12:47:31 PM
RTFA Sheeple

From what I read she did the right thing.

/Nice inflammatory submission SubmitTard
 
2014-01-20 12:47:43 PM
kids need bootstraps too. sometimes they get beaten with them.
 
2014-01-20 12:47:47 PM

buzzcut73: Clarance Carter was the head of CPS, Ooooh shiat, no wonder it was a mess.


Too busy stroking?
 
2014-01-20 12:48:12 PM
I don't like editorials pretending to be news even when I agree with them.
 
2014-01-20 12:48:36 PM
Headso: The republican way: first appoint a human trashbag with no soul to purposely do a terrible job running or overseeing a government service that helps middle class or poor people. Then after a miserable failure reported by the media blame the service itself and not the people responsible for running it. Then defund the service while low info voters cheer.

This is a rough description of the exact strategy of the GOP when it comes to social services and regulatory agencies. Sabotage, discredit, defund.
 
2014-01-20 12:48:37 PM

Frozboz: Doesn't Arizona only have old people?  What do they need CPS for!?


Well, old people do have a lot of heart attacks...
 
2014-01-20 12:48:41 PM

hubiestubert: If there was a bit more detail on said replacement, there wouldn't be, but who is taking over, and how is it going to be set up, and when are they going to start to reform this replacement? She's done a bold thing, but without details on what she's replacing it with, and what is going to happen in the interim? Local police aren't exactly equipped to handle things, and in the meantime, what in the heck is going to happen to the former caseload? The 6000 cases misreported is just a tip of the iceberg for potential harm given the tendency for folks to simply fall through the cracks already. With no real oversight, and no real case agents, in fact, having to form a new department entirely, there's a huge potential for disaster.


I agree but subby's making it out like there is no CPS in Arizona.  That's why I said I hoped it works out since there is very little info right now.
 
2014-01-20 12:49:10 PM
Clarence Carter Clarence Carter Clarence Carter Clarence Carter
 
2014-01-20 12:49:40 PM
If Janet Napolitano had shaken her finger in W's face there would have been calls for BLOOD.
 
2014-01-20 12:50:19 PM
As worthless as Brewer has been on a lot of issues, the changes recently made to CPS have been something of an improvement.  At least some of these cases are being actively investigated now.  The real question is what took her so long?
 
2014-01-20 12:51:30 PM
Look, I'm pretty liberal Dem, and have worked in Child Advocacy positions so I don't say this lightly - I'm not sure there is anything to be outraged by. She dissolved the organization that seemed to be pretty ineffective and passed the responsibility onto her Juvenile Corrections guy.

Until we can look back at the numbers, we will have no idea if this was an effective idea to help solve the problem, or just some CYA bullshiat.
 
2014-01-20 12:51:37 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Ok Subby. You got your greenlight.

"Enough with the uninvestigated reports of abuse and neglect," Brewer said. "Enough with the lack of transparency. And enough with the excuses."

Over 6000 uninvestigated which prompted the action. Don't know if this will work or not, but obviously the CPS there was sitting around with their thumbs up their asses doing jacksh*t.


FTA
Brewer's solution to the problem is to create a cabinet-level, free-standing agency.
 
2014-01-20 12:52:07 PM
Keep the government out of our lives And paychecks!

Except when it comes to building roads/schools, ensuring food/water is safe, protecting your kids from the airwaves with the FCC, legislating personal choice, and spending money on the military.
 
2014-01-20 12:52:15 PM

Headso: They especially wanted her to dismiss the Department of Economic Security director, Clarence Carter. Carter, who was appointed to his position by Brewer, was responsible for the oversight of CPS. He still has not been fired but, if Brewer has her way, CPS itself will disappear right out from under him.


The republican way: first appoint a human trashbag with no soul to purposely do a terrible job running or overseeing a government service that helps middle class or poor people. Then after a miserable failure reported by the media blame the service itself and not the people responsible for running it. Then defund the service while low info voters cheer.


Heck of a job, Brownie!
 
2014-01-20 12:52:33 PM

TNel: hubiestubert: If there was a bit more detail on said replacement, there wouldn't be, but who is taking over, and how is it going to be set up, and when are they going to start to reform this replacement? She's done a bold thing, but without details on what she's replacing it with, and what is going to happen in the interim? Local police aren't exactly equipped to handle things, and in the meantime, what in the heck is going to happen to the former caseload? The 6000 cases misreported is just a tip of the iceberg for potential harm given the tendency for folks to simply fall through the cracks already. With no real oversight, and no real case agents, in fact, having to form a new department entirely, there's a huge potential for disaster.

I agree but subby's making it out like there is no CPS in Arizona.  That's why I said I hoped it works out since there is very little info right now.


Little info is par for the course in Maricopa. Try finding Sheriff Joe's offices at the Department as a for instance. Oh, that's right, he rents office space downtown instead, because it's so cost effective to keep him far and away from prying eyes, and the taxpayer paying for private offices. What passes for public service in Arizona makes the graft in Massachusetts look almost wholesome in comparison...
 
2014-01-20 12:53:15 PM

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/Oblig
 
2014-01-20 12:53:31 PM
static2.wikia.nocookie.net
The regional parents now have direct control over their children. Fear will keep the local children in line.
 
2014-01-20 12:53:34 PM
But we all hate Gov. Brewer, so lying about what she's doing is okay.

\It's not wrong when WE do it
\\fark you, subby
 
2014-01-20 12:53:46 PM
So is the theme of Republicans this year, that they are finally taking a stand against children?
 
2014-01-20 12:54:59 PM
In all fairness, CPS isn't often in the business of protecting children.  They're more often an arm of the prosecutor's office, and aren't interested in 'protecting' anyone, as much as they are 'pursuing convictions'.

Can't say I disagree with Crazy Jan on this one. (Standard disclaimers of requiring more information apply)
 
2014-01-20 12:59:28 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Clarence Carter Clarence Carter Clarence Carter Clarence Carter


ecx.images-amazon.com

/yeah, i'm old
 
2014-01-20 12:59:38 PM
Sorry Subby, not even close.  I am as Libby and Arizona as there is, and dislike the governor immensely, CPS had to go and she did the right thing.
 
2014-01-20 01:00:06 PM
Kind of off-topic but the biggest reason I'm against a single-payer health care system is I don't want someone like Jan Brewer deciding when I can and can't see a doctor.
 
2014-01-20 01:00:24 PM
Nice trolly headline Subby. I need to follow in your footsteps if I want to get more greenlit articles
 
2014-01-20 01:00:30 PM
If they just got rid of the children this problem would go away on it's own.
 
2014-01-20 01:00:57 PM

Thank You Black Jesus!: If Janet Napolitano had shaken her finger in W's face there would have been calls for BLOOD.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!

 
2014-01-20 01:01:07 PM
Subby needs to learn proper usage of quotes.

/not a grammar nazi
//thank god for spellcheck or I would've misspelled 'grammar'
 
2014-01-20 01:02:17 PM
What I want to know is, how did the former CPS's funding and resource levels compare to their caseload, versus their counterparts in other states? Was Arizona's CPS actually uniquely incompetent, or just underfunded and overburdened like so many other red state government agencies? (Nor are the two mutually exclusive - cheap out on hiring, and you get the bottom-of-the-barrel employees.)
 
2014-01-20 01:02:28 PM

hubiestubert: So, the solution to the scandal is to make the agency go away entirely, so that the uninvestigated cases just aren't cases any longer?

I can see dismissing the head of CPS, even sweeping clean the top levels entirely, but without a replacement set up, she's essentially handing these cases over to the local constabulary, who don't have the facilities, training, or manpower to adequately do the job. Then again, this is Arizona, and their solution to their budget crisis was to sell off public buildings, and then rent them from the new owners to hook the state into paying for buildings they used to own, and oddly enough, still had to pay for the upkeep for, since the contracts with the new owners doesn't put the onus of repair and maintenance on them at all. Brilliant savings there. These are not the deepest of strategists here. Or rather, they know when they scent blood in the water, the best thing to do is strike, hard, fast, and get out while the cash is still all warm from someone's pocket...


Look at the federal government as an example. If there's anything that you can learn from looking at the federal government over the long term, it is that changing the top management of a government agency rarely leads to actual, lasting, significant operational changes.

Sometimes, you just need to clean the slate and start over. That may be what's needed in this case.
 
2014-01-20 01:07:07 PM
Clarence Carter, Clarence Carter, Clarence Carter
Clarence Carter, ooooh shiat, Clarence Carter
 
2014-01-20 01:08:38 PM
Oh fer farks sake Fark...this got greenlit?

Misleading and inflammatory headline?  Check.

Ultra-biased website as source? Check.


Comon mods.  It's late enough you should have had your morning coffee.
 
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