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(Seattle Times)   Interview with Seattle Seahawks owner Paul Allen reveals his secrets for running a winning team. #1 - Don't buy any team in Houston   (seattletimes.com ) divider line 29
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2014-01-20 10:11:45 AM  
Plenty of access to PEDs?
 
2014-01-20 10:19:04 AM  
Nice article. I wish more sports owners were like this.
 
2014-01-20 10:25:54 AM  
Don't forget, the Seahawks weren't very good for many years that Allen owned the team.
 
2014-01-20 10:28:43 AM  
Get lucky and draft stellar rookies who are wildly underpaid due to CBA restrictions, allowing you more room for error with the rest of your team building?
 
2014-01-20 10:35:28 AM  
Or Portland, OR either.

/Too late.
 
2014-01-20 10:41:35 AM  
Earth to Seattle, earth to Seattle.  Calm the eff down, you haven't won shiat just yet.  There is a big difference between going to the prom and taking the prom queen home for a beej and boof.

Just ask Buffalo.
 
2014-01-20 10:45:19 AM  
Get back to me when he has as many Super Bowl rings as Jerry Jones.
 
2014-01-20 10:56:32 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Earth to Seattle, earth to Seattle.  Calm the eff down, you haven't won shiat just yet.  There is a big difference between going to the prom and taking the prom queen home for a beej and boof.

Just ask Buffalo.


Which time haha wasnt it like 4 in a row?

Oh and  www.ffunny.com
 
2014-01-20 11:03:53 AM  
Stay mostly hands off and let the coaches you hired make the important football related decisions?
 
2014-01-20 11:05:08 AM  
What did Houston do to you, subby? We happen to have several championship franchises. Too bad they are in soccer and basketball
 
2014-01-20 11:20:46 AM  
So, he's the anti-Snyder.

/Or the anti-Jones.
//Either way.
 
2014-01-20 11:38:45 AM  
Amazing.

They started doing well....right around the time they hired Schneider away from Green Bay.

GOSH!
 
2014-01-20 11:42:58 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Get lucky and draft stellar rookies who are wildly underpaid due to CBA restrictions, allowing you more room for error with the rest of your team building?


Wait, the rookie wage scale is a bad thing now? I thought we wanted that because it let them pay veterans more and nerfed the problems with salary escalation at the top of the draft. Especially after the contracts JaWalrus and and Sam Bradford were able to wrangle.
 
2014-01-20 11:44:45 AM  
He's owned the team since 1997.

Let's not pretend like he suddenly showed up and transformed the Seahawks into a contender overnight or anything.
 
2014-01-20 11:57:31 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Lost Thought 00: Get lucky and draft stellar rookies who are wildly underpaid due to CBA restrictions, allowing you more room for error with the rest of your team building?

Wait, the rookie wage scale is a bad thing now? I thought we wanted that because it let them pay veterans more and nerfed the problems with salary escalation at the top of the draft. Especially after the contracts JaWalrus and and Sam Bradford were able to wrangle.


From a rookie's perspective, it's terrible, because they earn way below market rates for a job that is very hazardous to their physical health.
 
2014-01-20 12:18:21 PM  

Ishkur: He's owned the team since 1997.

Let's not pretend like he suddenly showed up and transformed the Seahawks into a contender overnight or anything.


They have been to the playoffs more times than not since he bought the team.
 
2014-01-20 12:20:20 PM  

wichitaleaf: Don't forget, the Seahawks weren't very good for many years that Allen owned the team.



Yeah, but that's a lot better than the alternative.....The Los Angeles Seahawks.
 
2014-01-20 12:34:02 PM  

Lost Thought 00: UNC_Samurai: Lost Thought 00: Get lucky and draft stellar rookies who are wildly underpaid due to CBA restrictions, allowing you more room for error with the rest of your team building?

Wait, the rookie wage scale is a bad thing now? I thought we wanted that because it let them pay veterans more and nerfed the problems with salary escalation at the top of the draft. Especially after the contracts JaWalrus and and Sam Bradford were able to wrangle.

From a rookie's perspective, it's terrible, because they earn way below market rates for a job that is very hazardous to their physical health.


1) No one is forcing anyone to play in the NFL
2) "Below Market Rates" = >$300k per season, minimum for a player on the 53-man roster
3) The previous system was unsustainable. Teams investing more than 10% of their salary cap in a player who has never even practiced for a NFL team is a system that can't work.
 
2014-01-20 12:58:41 PM  

Shame Us: Lost Thought 00: UNC_Samurai: Lost Thought 00: Get lucky and draft stellar rookies who are wildly underpaid due to CBA restrictions, allowing you more room for error with the rest of your team building?

Wait, the rookie wage scale is a bad thing now? I thought we wanted that because it let them pay veterans more and nerfed the problems with salary escalation at the top of the draft. Especially after the contracts JaWalrus and and Sam Bradford were able to wrangle.

From a rookie's perspective, it's terrible, because they earn way below market rates for a job that is very hazardous to their physical health.

1) No one is forcing anyone to play in the NFL
2) "Below Market Rates" = >$300k per season, minimum for a player on the 53-man roster
3) The previous system was unsustainable. Teams investing more than 10% of their salary cap in a player who has never even practiced for a NFL team is a system that can't work.


No one was forcing any NFL team to do #3, either.
 
2014-01-20 01:01:11 PM  

Darbus: Shame Us: Lost Thought 00: UNC_Samurai: Lost Thought 00: Get lucky and draft stellar rookies who are wildly underpaid due to CBA restrictions, allowing you more room for error with the rest of your team building?

Wait, the rookie wage scale is a bad thing now? I thought we wanted that because it let them pay veterans more and nerfed the problems with salary escalation at the top of the draft. Especially after the contracts JaWalrus and and Sam Bradford were able to wrangle.

From a rookie's perspective, it's terrible, because they earn way below market rates for a job that is very hazardous to their physical health.

1) No one is forcing anyone to play in the NFL
2) "Below Market Rates" = >$300k per season, minimum for a player on the 53-man roster
3) The previous system was unsustainable. Teams investing more than 10% of their salary cap in a player who has never even practiced for a NFL team is a system that can't work.

No one was forcing any NFL team to do #3, either.


The "market" was. Wasting a 1st rounder on a guy who's going to hold-out for cash is a huge penalty to pay for trying to reset the market. The only way those salaries were going to come down was collusion or collectively barganing a solution.
 
2014-01-20 01:32:49 PM  

Shame Us: 1) No one is forcing anyone to play in the NFL
2) "Below Market Rates" = >$300k per season, minimum for a player on the 53-man roster
3) The previous system was unsustainable. Teams investing more than 10% of their salary cap in a player who has never even practiced for a NFL team is a system that can't work.


All true points, though the first two are pointless in this context. I agree the system was broken, but it was fixed by f*cking over rookies, particularly those that prove themselves to be exceptionally talented. Rookies should be allowed to renegotiate contracts at any point (after perhaps the first year), and not have to wait until their 4th year to have free negotiating leverage.
 
2014-01-20 01:40:50 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Get lucky and draft stellar rookies who are wildly underpaid due to CBA restrictions, allowing you more room for error with the rest of your team building?


Or it could be that they have an excellent scouting department and front office that understands the new rules favor teams that draft well. They could be getting lucky, but at this point it seems like they have a system in place. The NFL draft is so deep that if you can get useful players in every round.

Your other point still stands, however. The new CBA swung a little too far away from the rookies and a little more balance is needed.

//getting lucky in a draft is getting your ping pong ball at #1 when LeBron and Duncan are the obvious, can't miss guys.
 
2014-01-20 01:45:25 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Shame Us: 1) No one is forcing anyone to play in the NFL
2) "Below Market Rates" = >$300k per season, minimum for a player on the 53-man roster
3) The previous system was unsustainable. Teams investing more than 10% of their salary cap in a player who has never even practiced for a NFL team is a system that can't work.

All true points, though the first two are pointless in this context. I agree the system was broken, but it was fixed by f*cking over rookies, particularly those that prove themselves to be exceptionally talented. Rookies should be allowed to renegotiate contracts at any point (after perhaps the first year), and not have to wait until their 4th year to have free negotiating leverage.


I see your point and that is probably the only part of the new rules that I would consider revisiting. I think slotting the draft picks is the only way this was going to work, but I think if you're going to allow renegotiating a caveat has to be made regarding hold-outs as a negotiating tactic.
 
2014-01-20 02:20:38 PM  
www.brixpicks.com
 
2014-01-20 02:23:29 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Shame Us: 1) No one is forcing anyone to play in the NFL
2) "Below Market Rates" = >$300k per season, minimum for a player on the 53-man roster
3) The previous system was unsustainable. Teams investing more than 10% of their salary cap in a player who has never even practiced for a NFL team is a system that can't work.

All true points, though the first two are pointless in this context. I agree the system was broken, but it was fixed by f*cking over rookies, particularly those that prove themselves to be exceptionally talented. Rookies should be allowed to renegotiate contracts at any point (after perhaps the first year), and not have to wait until their 4th year to have free negotiating leverage.


Since the average NFL career is 3 1/2 years, the CBA ensures that most players will NEVER be able to negotiate their salary.  Why would the union agree to it?  Because they represent current players.  At the time of the negotiation, the average union member had over three years of service time because they negotiate during the off-season.  Draftees were not included, so they made sure to screw them over so the members would get more.  Baseball did the same thing in their last contract with draft slotting.  At least a baseball player who makes the majors will likely reach arbitration.  He gets screwed but not nearly as much as the NFL guy.
 
2014-01-20 02:26:12 PM  

The_Sponge: wichitaleaf: Don't forget, the Seahawks weren't very good for many years that Allen owned the team.


Yeah, but that's a lot better than the alternative.....The Los Angeles Seahawks.


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But nowhere as bad as The Los Angeles Raiders of Oakland San Francisco Mill Valley.
 
2014-01-20 03:11:24 PM  

wichitaleaf: Don't forget, the Seahawks weren't very good for many years that Allen owned the team.


They were division champs once in the twenty years before he bought the team, and seven times (in 15 years) since. I'd say that's a drastic improvement.

xaks: Amazing.

They started doing well....right around the time they hired Schneider away from Green Bay.

GOshia


that's a great narrative, if you want to ignore them making the playoffs five of the seven years before hiring Schneider.
 
2014-01-20 10:37:41 PM  

xaks: They started doing well....right around the time they hired Schneider away from Green Bay.


and now the packers can't draft for shiat
 
2014-01-20 10:43:49 PM  

Flying Lasagna Monster: xaks: They started doing well....right around the time they hired Schneider away from Green Bay.

and now the packers can't draft for shiat


Hey now.

Thompson drafts....OK. Not great, not good. Just...OK.

He's been reaching fer defense the last couple years and it shows. But overall, their program of draft and develop hasn't done too badly, considering.
 
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