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(CBS Dallas/Ft. Worth)   Man who built his home next to an airport is SHOCKED to discover air traffic over his home   (dfw.cbslocal.com) divider line 123
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NFA [TotalFark]
2014-01-19 09:29:52 PM
This reminds me of the local business owners who bought land, then built businesses at the end of the local airport runway.  Then sued the airport claiming the planes flying low overhead were too dangerous.  In reality, they want to shut down the airport so they can buy the get land and develop it.
 
2014-01-19 09:36:50 PM

NFA: This reminds me of the local business owners who bought land, then built businesses at the end of the local airport runway.  Then sued the airport claiming the planes flying low overhead were too dangerous.  In reality, they want to shut down the airport so they can buy the get land and develop it.


Or the people who build their house next to the pig farm and then have a hissy fit over the smell.
 
2014-01-19 09:44:36 PM
We had a great meat and 3 place called "VJ's on the Runway" which located about 50 yards from the end of the run way fence...very popular with the National Guard folks and locals. You could watch the planes take off from the window seats--which where spooky close to the runways. This place was built in the 50's or so.

They moved it to a new location when they extended the runway...and the new location burned down a couple of years ago and hasn't reopened. I miss it, watching the plans take off was great...heck the Nat Gaurd planes you can even tell if the pilots where wearing sunglasses.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-01-19 09:54:51 PM
"meat and 3" ???
 
2014-01-19 09:59:02 PM

optikeye: We had a great meat and 3 place


Yeah, what's the "meat and 3" thing all about?
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-01-19 10:05:46 PM
meat and three vegetables.  A restaurant.
 
2014-01-19 11:07:56 PM
I didn't realize that pilots picked which runway they were going to take off from.  I thought it was ATC and GTC.

Regardless.  When building a house next to a possible source of noise.  Take the current level of noise and multiply it by 10 because the probability of it getting louder is much better than it getting quieter.  No matter what anybody says.
 
2014-01-19 11:09:29 PM

433: meat and three vegetables.  A restaurant.


I've never heard this expression before.
 
2014-01-19 11:24:44 PM

Frederick: 433: meat and three vegetables.  A restaurant.

I've never heard this expression before.


It's more common in the south.  It can be soul food or just country cooking, table service or cafeteria style, but there are usually some similarities.  Most are informal, family friendly, low priced, and serve ample portions of home cooked simple food.

Usually you get a choice of a meat (fried chicken, catfish, country fried steak, roast pork/turkey/beef, chicken livers, etc), then three sides, with vegetable and non-vegetable options (typically things like okra, collard greens, stewed cabbage, green beans, mashed potatoes, grits, mac and cheese, applesauce, and black eyed peas) and then get either corn bread or dinner rolls on the side.

It's sort of the south's answer to a diner.

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2014-01-20 12:02:45 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Frederick: 433: meat and three vegetables.  A restaurant.

I've never heard this expression before.

It's more common in the south.  It can be soul food or just country cooking, table service or cafeteria style, but there are usually some similarities.  Most are informal, family friendly, low priced, and serve ample portions of home cooked simple food.

Usually you get a choice of a meat (fried chicken, catfish, country fried steak, roast pork/turkey/beef, chicken livers, etc), then three sides, with vegetable and non-vegetable options (typically things like okra, collard greens, stewed cabbage, green beans, mashed potatoes, grits, mac and cheese, applesauce, and black eyed peas) and then get either corn bread or dinner rolls on the side.

It's sort of the south's answer to a diner.


Almost all of them here in the Charlotte area are owned by Greeks...go figure.
 
2014-01-20 12:03:57 AM
WHAT?
 
2014-01-20 12:08:22 AM

Torgo_of_Manos: TuteTibiImperes: Frederick: 433: meat and three vegetables.  A restaurant.

I've never heard this expression before.

It's more common in the south.  It can be soul food or just country cooking, table service or cafeteria style, but there are usually some similarities.  Most are informal, family friendly, low priced, and serve ample portions of home cooked simple food.

Usually you get a choice of a meat (fried chicken, catfish, country fried steak, roast pork/turkey/beef, chicken livers, etc), then three sides, with vegetable and non-vegetable options (typically things like okra, collard greens, stewed cabbage, green beans, mashed potatoes, grits, mac and cheese, applesauce, and black eyed peas) and then get either corn bread or dinner rolls on the side.

It's sort of the south's answer to a diner.

Almost all of them here in the Charlotte area are owned by Greeks...go figure.


Same here in BHM and most of the Gulf Coast area; Either Greeks of Lebanese. Some have been here for a 100 years or more.
But we also have wonderful places for Gyros. And the Greek food festival is fantastic, and over priced.
 
2014-01-20 12:10:22 AM
I'm normally not very sympathetic to people who move next to an airport and complain about the noise, but it sounds like this guy's beef is simply that pilots are electing not to use the noise preferred runway of the two parallel runways at Love Field.

That's reasonable enough. Gotta be a good neighbour. A shorter taxi isn't worth pissing people off and creating a long term problem. I live next to an airport, and since I fly out of that airport, I know when people are ignoring the noise abatement procedures. That pisses me off, because it just hands ammunition to the anti-airport crowd.
 
2014-01-20 12:32:31 AM
I'm not sympathetic at all, because he's the new one to the situation and he's the one complaining. It isn't like folks who have been in the neighborhood for years are concerned over growing neglect for the voluntary actions, it's the new guy stirring the pot. So he needs to be shut down, not Love Field.
 
2014-01-20 12:39:30 AM
He can afford a house but not a set of earplugs?
 
2014-01-20 01:53:12 AM
"I knew we were close to the airport, but I knew when we built, they had a voluntary noise program in effect."

Yeah, but what they didn't tell you was the program was that "we will voluntarily produce all the noise we want."
 
2014-01-20 02:51:22 AM
In Longmont, Colorado, residents along Airport Road are trying to put a skydiving company out of business because the airplane the business uses is too loud.  The subdivisions along there were built between 2002 and 2007. The skydiving company has been in operation since 1994.
 
2014-01-20 03:02:19 AM
Dallas affluenza victims. We should do a telethon...
 
2014-01-20 03:32:20 AM
I SAID BAN AIR-
 
2014-01-20 03:35:31 AM
"Moving to the nuisance" is usually a defense in cases like this. Especially airports, especially big ones.
 
2014-01-20 03:40:51 AM
We have this problem at Portland International Raceway, which has been in place since 1961. It's a city park, therefore subject to noise ordinances. Since it's city owned, any noise complaint that gets reported MUST be investigated. Most days are limited to 98db, and some up to 103db (or none on some weekends). There are no events scheduled before 9AM *ANY* day, and none past 10PM (Friday and Saturday night drags).

There is a group of about 5 people in the Kenton community directly to the south (about a mile away) who, every year, complain about the noise from the track. And each year, an investigation is done (due to park rules) with no violations found. In fact, they found that the noise from the trains that are even closer are far higher than that of anything ever produced at the track (at all hours of the night, I might add). They are doing nothing but harassing the track and its management in order to try to get it shut down. All of whom, BTW, moved there in the last 10 years. They're also closer to the I5 freeway than the race track.

Fark these people.
 
2014-01-20 03:46:03 AM

neilbradley: We have this problem at Portland International Raceway, which has been in place since 1961. It's a city park, therefore subject to noise ordinances. Since it's city owned, any noise complaint that gets reported MUST be investigated. Most days are limited to 98db, and some up to 103db (or none on some weekends). There are no events scheduled before 9AM *ANY* day, and none past 10PM (Friday and Saturday night drags).

There is a group of about 5 people in the Kenton community directly to the south (about a mile away) who, every year, complain about the noise from the track. And each year, an investigation is done (due to park rules) with no violations found. In fact, they found that the noise from the trains that are even closer are far higher than that of anything ever produced at the track (at all hours of the night, I might add). They are doing nothing but harassing the track and its management in order to try to get it shut down. All of whom, BTW, moved there in the last 10 years. They're also closer to the I5 freeway than the race track.

Fark these people.


Next time I go to a motorcycle track day, I will ride in a lower gear just to annoy them.
 
2014-01-20 03:47:53 AM
TuteTibiImperes:fried chicken, catfish, country fried steak, roast pork/turkey/beef, chicken livers, etc), then three sides, with vegetable and non-vegetable options (typically things like okra, collard greens, stewed cabbage, green beans, mashed potatoes, grits, mac and cheese, applesauce, and black eyed peas) and then get either corn bread or dinner rolls on the side.

"I bet I could collar up some of them greens, yeah, some crawfish out the paddy, yo'! Ha! I'm makin' some crabapples for dessert now, yo! Hell yeah, ha! "

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2014-01-20 03:53:08 AM
Pilots just need to idle their engines on approach and departure over the affected areas. I'm sure that will correct that problem.
 
2014-01-20 03:57:56 AM

powhound: Pilots just need to idle their engines on approach and departure over the affected areas. I'm sure that will correct that problem.


I live near the Hillsboro Airport (portland metro). I got some single engine performance planes revving their engines circling the outer marker. Makes we wish Stingray missiles were a legitimate way to deal with the bastards.
 
2014-01-20 03:59:05 AM

BizarreMan: I didn't realize that pilots picked which runway they were going to take off from.  I thought it was ATC and GTC.



you're right, .. Love Field is pretty big, and has 24-7 ATC so i would be surprised if they aren't assigning the runway. i think this detail is sort of glossed over in non-technical reporting about issues like this.

which partly is what makes it an interesting situation. there are already pretty comprehensive  noise abatement procedures... link --->http://www.boeing.com/commercial/noise/dallas_love.html

so the question becomes, why aren't they being followed.... was nobody paying attention to them? or is there some reason why they aren't practical to use? is the airport just too busy to only use the south runway after hours? and of course texas isn't exactly known as a state that loves regulations maybe just nobody involved with enforcing them was paying attention
 
2014-01-20 04:01:31 AM
They have airplanes at airports now?
 
2014-01-20 04:09:40 AM

spesimen: BizarreMan: I didn't realize that pilots picked which runway they were going to take off from.  I thought it was ATC and GTC.


you're right, .. Love Field is pretty big, and has 24-7 ATC so i would be surprised if they aren't assigning the runway. i think this detail is sort of glossed over in non-technical reporting about issues like this.

which partly is what makes it an interesting situation. there are already pretty comprehensive  noise abatement procedures... link --->http://www.boeing.com/commercial/noise/dallas_love.html

so the question becomes, why aren't they being followed.... was nobody paying attention to them? or is there some reason why they aren't practical to use? is the airport just too busy to only use the south runway after hours? and of course texas isn't exactly known as a state that loves regulations maybe just nobody involved with enforcing them was paying attention


...OR...people don't understand what the word "voluntary" means.

This even though since 1981, the city has had a voluntary program asking pilots to use the west side runway closest to Denton Drive between 9:00 pm and 6:00 am.

"Voluntary" means "when you can or if practicable." So it's not a violation for pilots to use the runway at night--it's preferred that they don't, but it's not REQUIRED that they only use the other runway. Now if the rule were "IN-voluntary" then use of the runway would be a violation...but it isn't, and that's that.

And there's also this: But in an interview with CBS-11, the city's aviation director Mark Duebner said the FAA frowns upon limiting runway use.  "Ultimately, the city isn't going to do things that limit the operations on the airport because we've promised the FAA when we accept those federal dollars to build and improve the airport, that we would not do so."

The FAA generally has the final say in what goes on at airports, and if they don't like something, then unless the thing is going to kill people outside the fence, the FAA's rules or preferences trump people's annoyances. The only way to get around it is to do something like L.A. or Irvine have done, and pass new citywide noise ordinances that prevent ANYONE--planes or otherwise--from making noise in your city and then the planes have to fly around it; but if it's just the runway, these idiots may be SOL.
 
2014-01-20 05:03:07 AM
Reminds me of the 'adult' stores that get built out in the middle of nowhere since the land is cheap, there are no schools or any residential areas nearby, so they aren't in violation of any 'decency' laws -- and then a church buys the land next-door, builds a youth camp... and then spends the next several years trying to close the adult store down because of the chil'rens and Jebus.

Even though the adult store was there first.
 
2014-01-20 05:24:20 AM

Weatherkiss: Reminds me of the 'adult' stores that get built out in the middle of nowhere since the land is cheap, there are no schools or any residential areas nearby, so they aren't in violation of any 'decency' laws -- and then a church buys the land next-door, builds a youth camp... and then spends the next several years trying to close the adult store down because of the chil'rens and Jebus.

Even though the adult store was there first.


There is a group of churches here in Houston that will set up shop next to an adult theater or a liquor store, then use the "fo' da lard Jebus" and "fo da childs" rallying cries to get these places to shut down.
 
2014-01-20 05:25:05 AM

Weatherkiss: Reminds me of the 'adult' stores that get built out in the middle of nowhere since the land is cheap, there are no schools or any residential areas nearby, so they aren't in violation of any 'decency' laws -- and then a church buys the land next-door, builds a youth camp... and then spends the next several years trying to close the adult store down because of the chil'rens and Jebus.

Even though the adult store was there first.


Yep.
 
2014-01-20 05:45:11 AM
There is a similar problem at the Naval Air Station Oceana, Virginia.  The air station was built out in the sticks away from the city in WW2 to train pilots for the navy.  Since then, the population has been growing and building homes closer and closer to the air station.  I find it hard to believe a clown moves into a home near the flight path and then complains about the noise.  I figure what the navy should do is tell the city of Virginia Beach that if they (the city) will build them a new air station at a location of the navy's choosing that is equivalent to NAS Oceana, then the city can have the current one.  That would probably put the city in the hole for several billion bucks but it would hopefully give them a new insight as to the reality of costs in relocating the air station if the city was to have to pay for it.  Having to buy land and improve it as well as to construct a new air station would just blow the little minds of the city council.  Homeowners just think that they can complain about an airport and it will go away.  Perhaps if they were told that the problem could be fixed by constructing another runway in a new location but they (the homeowners) would have to pay an assessment for its construction would open their eyes up a tad.  Going to idiots anonymous might also help as no one except an idiot buys a home near something that is an annoyance, such as a railroad track, drag racing track, airport, etc.  But like is said, you just can't cure stupid.
 
2014-01-20 05:49:20 AM
Note, we in the navy had a t-shirt made up to deal with the jet noise that read under a image of a navy fighter in flight:  That's not jet noise, That's the sound of freedom!  It got our point across to the folks that needed a bit of an education in the realities of life.
 
2014-01-20 05:54:08 AM

phojo1946: There is a similar problem at the Naval Air Station Oceana, Virginia.  The air station was built out in the sticks away from the city in WW2 to train pilots for the navy.  Since then, the population has been growing and building homes closer and closer to the air station.  I find it hard to believe a clown moves into a home near the flight path and then complains about the noise.  I figure what the navy should do is tell the city of Virginia Beach that if they (the city) will build them a new air station at a location of the navy's choosing that is equivalent to NAS Oceana, then the city can have the current one.  That would probably put the city in the hole for several billion bucks but it would hopefully give them a new insight as to the reality of costs in relocating the air station if the city was to have to pay for it.  Having to buy land and improve it as well as to construct a new air station would just blow the little minds of the city council.  Homeowners just think that they can complain about an airport and it will go away.  Perhaps if they were told that the problem could be fixed by constructing another runway in a new location but they (the homeowners) would have to pay an assessment for its construction would open their eyes up a tad.  Going to idiots anonymous might also help as no one except an idiot buys a home near something that is an annoyance, such as a railroad track, drag racing track, airport, etc.  But like is said, you just can't cure stupid.


From my research about the NAS Oceana is the homeowners bought houses under the condition the decibels wouldn't exceed a certain amount but over time as newer jets were introduced the decibel levels have exceeded what the homeowners originally agreed to when they bought the property.
 
2014-01-20 05:54:40 AM
You're such an incorrigible lolbertarian, subby. No one should ever do anything to make their communities more livable places because it violates your personal code.

Don't ever change.
 
2014-01-20 05:58:05 AM
Anyone remember the Farrell's Ice Cream Parlor across the street from the end of the main runway at Sacramento Executive Airport? A bunch of kids incinerated in a 1972 crash. Airport was there first.

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2014-01-20 06:03:21 AM
Brian Wilk moved into his new house just down the street from Dallas Love Field last summer.  "I knew we were close to the airport,Brian Wilk moved into his new house just down the street from Dallas Love Field last summer.  "I knew we were close to the airport,Brian Wilk moved into his new house just down the street from Dallas Love Field last summer.  "I knew we were close to the airport,  Brian Wilk moved into his new house just down the street from Dallas Love Field last summer.   "I knew we were close to the airport,  "I knew we were close to the airport,  "I knew we were close to the airport,  "I knew we were close to the airport,  "I knew we were close to the airport,
 
2014-01-20 06:11:50 AM
The take-away line FTFA:

"Our investigation also found that some of the top violators of the voluntary noise program were planes carrying small children who were going to receive emergency treatment at Children's Medical Center."

Argue against that. I would like to hear how that sounds.
 
2014-01-20 06:19:56 AM

unlikely: In Longmont, Colorado, residents along Airport Road are trying to put a skydiving company out of business because the airplane the business uses is too loud.  The subdivisions along there were built between 2002 and 2007. The skydiving company has been in operation since 1994.


There are way too many of these idiots.  Airports, train tracks, retail stores getting trucks at 6am and one case of a pig farm, all these things and more should be considered before you move in.  They exist and have a right to continue.  I thought the pig farm was the funniest, it preceded the complainer by 100 years.   Somehow the guy didn't smell the pig farm before deciding to buy.  He sure noticed later.

I've lived in a flight path and close to a train track, neither did I care.  I did get a lot of close looks at commercial aircraft, mostly at the landing gear.
 
2014-01-20 06:26:13 AM

styckx: phojo1946: There is a similar problem at the Naval Air Station Oceana, Virginia.  The air station was built out in the sticks away from the city in WW2 to train pilots for the navy.  Since then, the population has been growing and building homes closer and closer to the air station.  I find it hard to believe a clown moves into a home near the flight path and then complains about the noise.  I figure what the navy should do is tell the city of Virginia Beach that if they (the city) will build them a new air station at a location of the navy's choosing that is equivalent to NAS Oceana, then the city can have the current one.  That would probably put the city in the hole for several billion bucks but it would hopefully give them a new insight as to the reality of costs in relocating the air station if the city was to have to pay for it.  Having to buy land and improve it as well as to construct a new air station would just blow the little minds of the city council.  Homeowners just think that they can complain about an airport and it will go away.  Perhaps if they were told that the problem could be fixed by constructing another runway in a new location but they (the homeowners) would have to pay an assessment for its construction would open their eyes up a tad.  Going to idiots anonymous might also help as no one except an idiot buys a home near something that is an annoyance, such as a railroad track, drag racing track, airport, etc.  But like is said, you just can't cure stupid.

From my research about the NAS Oceana is the homeowners bought houses under the condition the decibels wouldn't exceed a certain amount but over time as newer jets were introduced the decibel levels have exceeded what the homeowners originally agreed to when they bought the property.


When you build a home near an airport, keep in mind that airports usually don't get smaller and quieter. Railroads and freeways don't get quieter and less-used. Radio stations don't stop using their towers. If you build at the urban boundary with a view, remember there are people with money who are going to buy up that old orchard in back and cover it with more houses, like you did to the old chicken farm. Unless they put a strip mall in instead. The property around your new house will be completely different ten years from now, and probably exactly not like you want it to be.
 
2014-01-20 06:27:24 AM

Alien Robot: The take-away line FTFA:

"Our investigation also found that some of the top violators of the voluntary noise program were planes carrying small children who were going to receive emergency treatment at Children's Medical Center."

Argue against that. I would like to hear how that sounds.


Not an emotional appeal at all.....nope.
 
2014-01-20 06:31:41 AM

unlikely: In Longmont, Colorado, residents along Airport Road are trying to put a skydiving company out of business because the airplane the business uses is too loud.  The subdivisions along there were built between 2002 and 2007. The skydiving company has been in operation since 1994.


The airplane was quieter back in 2002
 
2014-01-20 06:34:05 AM
I grew up with train tracks in the back yard.  To this day, the sound/feel off a freight rolling by puts me to sleep.  It's comforting, in its own way ;)
 
2014-01-20 06:36:43 AM

unlikely: In Longmont, Colorado, residents along Airport Road are trying to put a skydiving company out of business because the airplane the business uses is too loud.  The subdivisions along there were built between 2002 and 2007. The skydiving company has been in operation since 1994.


One would think the name "Airport Road" would be warning enough that jet noise might be an issue.  That's not a name that you see being applied to, say, a two-lane backcountry trail that winds through the mountains.
 
2014-01-20 06:52:57 AM

Barfmaker: optikeye: We had a great meat and 3 place

Yeah, what's the "meat and 3" thing all about?


MFFF

Try to pay attention
 
2014-01-20 06:57:56 AM

penthesilea: NFA: This reminds me of the local business owners who bought land, then built businesses at the end of the local airport runway.  Then sued the airport claiming the planes flying low overhead were too dangerous.  In reality, they want to shut down the airport so they can buy the get land and develop it.

Or the people who build their house next to the pig farm and then have a hissy fit over the smell.


Or people who buy a house in a student area, that's had a university there for 400 years, then complain about the nightlife.
 
2014-01-20 07:00:58 AM

Weatherkiss: Reminds me of the 'adult' stores that get built out in the middle of nowhere since the land is cheap, there are no schools or any residential areas nearby, so they aren't in violation of any 'decency' laws -- and then a church buys the land next-door, builds a youth camp... and then spends the next several years trying to close the adult store down because of the chil'rens and Jebus.

Even though the adult store was there first.


When I was a kid/teenager in Jacksonville, Florida, there was a large local church that always did that with places that serve alcohol.  Florida at the time had a rule that said you couldn't sell alcohol (usually interpreted as serve) within a certain distance of a church.  They pulled this with Publix, arguing that since part of Publix's parking lot was within the distance of their new satellite church they weren't allowed to sell alcohol.  Judge ended up throwing all/most of the law out entirely.

Regarding TFA:
Around the same time, a new housing development was pulling this shiat with NAS Jacksonville.  These people moved next to one of the largest damn naval air bases in the state and were SHOCKED that planes were taking off?

phojo1946: . I figure what the navy should do is tell the city of Virginia Beach that if they (the city) will build them a new air station at a location of the navy's choosing that is equivalent to NAS Oceana, then the city can have the current one. That would probably put the city in the hole for several billion bucks but it would hopefully give them a new insight as to the reality of costs in relocating the air station if the city was to have to pay for it. Having to buy land and improve it as well as to construct a new air station would just blow the little minds of the city council. Homeowners just think that they can complain about an airport and it will go away. Perhaps if they were told that the problem could be fixed by constructing another runway in a new location but they (the homeowners) would have to pay an assessment for its construction would open their eyes up a tad.


That or inform the city and state that the military was going to move operations to another state entirely.   And all those jobs and tax revenue with it.
 
2014-01-20 07:19:54 AM
penthesilea: NFA: This reminds me of the local business owners who bought land, then built businesses at the end of the local airport runway.  Then sued the airport claiming the planes flying low overhead were too dangerous.  In reality, they want to shut down the airport so they can buy the get land and develop it.

Or the people who build their house next to the pig farm and then have a hissy fit over the smell.

City I lived in years ago had a developer who wanted to put a Costco on a piece of land he owned on the south side of town.  He needed a zoning change for commercial development.  All the NIMBYs started barking and frothing at the mouth about how it would be a blight and destroy views of the mountains and all kinds of bullshiat.  (The land was across the street from "auto row" so the only people who would lose their pristine view were car salesmen.)  Finally, the guy got tired of fighting and said he was going to put in a hog farm.  The land was already zoned for that and there was fark-all they could do about it.  The local gubmint knew he was cantankerous enough to do it so his rezoning was approved.

Now that strip of land has a bunch of new, thriving businesses and a large condo development.
 
2014-01-20 07:59:18 AM

jtown: Now that strip of land has a bunch of new, thriving businesses and a large condo development.


And I'm sure the people living at the condo development just HATED having a Costco close by.
 
2014-01-20 08:06:31 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Frederick: 433: meat and three vegetables.  A restaurant.

I've never heard this expression before.

It's more common in the south.  It can be soul food or just country cooking, table service or cafeteria style, but there are usually some similarities.  Most are informal, family friendly, low priced, and serve ample portions of home cooked simple food.

Usually you get a choice of a meat (fried chicken, catfish, country fried steak, roast pork/turkey/beef, chicken livers, etc), then three sides, with vegetable and non-vegetable options (typically things like okra, collard greens, stewed cabbage, green beans, mashed potatoes, grits, mac and cheese, applesauce, and black eyed peas) and then get either corn bread or dinner rolls on the side.

It's sort of the south's answer to a diner.


Came here to mock the idiot airport neighbor.

Left distracted and hungry.
 
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