what_now: Really? It's a show set 100 years in the past who's attitudes toward justice, equality and homosexuality are still more advanced than today's GOP.
cameroncrazy1984: what_now: Really? It's a show set 100 years in the past who's attitudes toward justice, equality and homosexuality are still more advanced than today's GOP.Yeah this. What show was that person watching?
NewportBarGuy: Really? Get the f*ck outta town! The aristocracy is conservative?Thanks for enlightening me, Salon. I feel infromed.
Speaker2Animals: I've never written anything creative in my life, so I'll just devote my career to tossing dirt on the shows done by creative people.
solitary: It's a big steaming pile o crap compared to the excellent show it plagiarized UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS.
what_now: Maybe you should use some of that blood money for remedial grammar lessons, you stupid farking yokel.
r1niceboy: If anything, Downton is an extension of Gosford Park, that movie from a few years back.
PsiChick: You know, I'm ninety percent sure no intellectual admits to watching Game of Thrones. If only because it's basically a mix of gorn and porn, and really, that is not a goddamn combination anyone needs.
quatchi: r1niceboy: If anything, Downton is an extension of Gosford Park, that movie from a few years back.I freaking loved that movie.Helen Mirren, Maggie Smith and Bob Balaban were all ridiculously good in that.Fry's turn as the hapless Inspector Thompson was gold as well.
solitary: UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS.
fastbow: PsiChick: You know, I'm ninety percent sure no intellectual admits to watching Game of Thrones. If only because it's basically a mix of gorn and porn, and really, that is not a goddamn combination anyone needs.You'd be surprised. It's pretty big at my school among students and faculty alike.
Phins: Seriously, is this writer paying attention? This story makes no sense."like Mr. Bates' estranged wife who interferes with Bates' sincere desire to be a servant, evil"What? Mr. Bates' wife, Anna was raped and is suffering and pushing her husband away. It's temporary and how does she interfere with him being a servant?"Because he is devoted to the wealthy family he serves, everyone, led by Lord Grantham, takes the attitude that they must live and let live. In real life, homosexual acts were not decriminalized in England until 1967."So they act like a bunch of liberals, taking the attitude that he's a good employee and his homosexuality is his private business. But it's a show where "meaningful social change seems impossible." And this makes them right-wing conservatives."Tom Branson, for instance, the husband of the late Sybil, has so far remained a part of daily life and the management of Downton Abbey even in spite of his previously strongly held socialist beliefs. So much for that!"He wanted to leave but the family convinced him to stay. The allegedly evil imperialist family has accepted the former chauffeur as a member of the family. He's staying for his daughter, but considers taking her and moving to America. And he's very conflicted about being a member of the upper crust."Edith is eager to work outside the home and deeply capable - and she pines after men at the intervals the plot demands."Oh noes!! Young woman is attracted to men and would like to find love. Women who want careers can't also want love?!?!?! It would be weird if Edith wasn't interested in men."Mrs. Patmore, for instance, keeps making stupid mistakes, and so her masters perceptively realize she's going blind and buy her eye surgery! - makes an argument for a system wherein the rich control all but act wisely"Single-payer health care, no cost to the employee is a pretty liberal concept. They kindly made it possible for her to get the necessary surgery but somehow they're mon ...
psychicdeath99: Gee, let's set a show in 1912 to 1923, but give the characters the social and poltical viewpoints of 2014 liberals.
Yogimus: What is a "Downtown abbey"?
Noam Chimpsky: The salon libtard probably thinks conservatives watch shows based on some kind of political message, like liberals do. Conservatives are anti-political so a "conservative show" would be a show with no political bullshiat in it.
Rug Doctor: In many cases, past policies (i.e. "regressive") favored people of established means, forever and ever. Whereas, so-called "progressive" policies aim to uplift those who were NOT born into money.[www.aerojockey.com image 140x105]
DrPainMD: Rug Doctor: In many cases, past policies (i.e. "regressive") favored people of established means, forever and ever. Whereas, so-called "progressive" policies aim to uplift those who were NOT born into money.[www.aerojockey.com image 140x105]Jim Crow laws, eugenics, drug laws? Those policies?
im14u2c: psychicdeath99: Gee, let's set a show in 1912 to 1923, but give the characters the social and poltical viewpoints of 2014 liberals.I don't really think that was the point of the article.The article wasn't complaining that the characters didn't embody modern ideals and viewpoints, but rather than the ideals of the time don't carry the appropriate consequences. Any downsides of the era seem to be whitewashed away.At least that's what I got from the article. Where do you see the article saying that the characters have insufficiently modern viewpoints?
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