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(Daily Mail)   Smoking or drinking during pregnancy can cause your baby to: A) be born premature, B) have deformities, or C) be gay   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 111
    More: Unlikely, Professor Swaab, University of Amsterdam, affect sexuality, bisexuality, pregnancy, sexual orientation, smoking, womb  
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2014-01-19 08:01:18 PM  
Dick Swaab

Seriously?? Tell me I'm being punked.
 
2014-01-19 08:02:55 PM  
D) [scottwalker.jpg]
 
2014-01-19 08:05:37 PM  
 
2014-01-19 08:19:32 PM  
Birth defects?  This guy is gonna end up on the GLADD pooper list
 
2014-01-19 09:16:34 PM  
You know, as a generalization, homophobic bigotry tends to overlap with the religious anti-abortion crowd.

I wonder how much of a cognitive dissonance would develop if science conclusively proved that sexual orientation and gender were definitively formed in utero, and could be identified before birth?

No, I'm not trolling. I genuinely think these people would be totally for killing as many of them as possible.
 
2014-01-19 09:20:12 PM  
Scientific article on the Daily Mail? There's no way this couldn't be entirely made up and not factual in any sense of the word. No sir-ee!
 
2014-01-19 09:25:32 PM  

Donnchadha: Scientific article on the Daily Mail? There's no way this couldn't be entirely made up and not factual in any sense of the word. No sir-ee!


JUST ASK THIS SCIENTICIAN!

simpsonsscreenshots.com

He'll tell you that the homogay is not the result of some elusive gay gene, or even complex interactions between genetics, brain structure and development, hormones, and maternal-fetal immune system interactions, but rather by the evil tentacles of Satan working their way through the anal chute of your baby.
 
2014-01-19 09:46:11 PM  

Donnchadha: Scientific article on the Daily Mail? There's no way this couldn't be entirely made up and not factual in any sense of the word. No sir-ee!


Hey, if you can't trust a guy named after a male STD test who can you trust?
 
2014-01-19 09:46:39 PM  

hardinparamedic: You know, as a generalization, homophobic bigotry tends to overlap with the religious anti-abortion crowd.

I wonder how much of a cognitive dissonance would develop if science conclusively proved that sexual orientation and gender were definitively formed in utero, and could be identified before birth?

No, I'm not trolling. I genuinely think these people would be totally for killing as many of them as possible.


Why? It's not like homosexuality is inborn.

Being gay is a choice.
 
2014-01-19 09:48:13 PM  
It will make your baby afraid of jackhammers and construction noises. Duh!

/that one newspaper article proved it
 
2014-01-19 09:48:27 PM  

sendtodave: Why? It's not like homosexuality is inborn.

Being gay is a choice.


www.iconsoffright.com

You can't lead off with that, man. It's too obvious!
 
2014-01-19 09:54:09 PM  

macross87: It will make your baby afraid of jackhammers and construction noises. Duh!

/that one newspaper article proved it


lol
 
2014-01-19 09:54:15 PM  
If this don't do it, nothing will. It's obviously time to get serious about women drinking and smoking during pregnancy!
 
2014-01-19 09:59:05 PM  
s2.quickmeme.com
 
2014-01-19 09:59:35 PM  
What if you smoke pot and drink robotussin?
 
2014-01-19 10:00:11 PM  
That this comes from a Professor "Dick Swaab" seems apropos. And legit.
 
2014-01-19 10:02:59 PM  
Pole smoking makes you gay.

NTTAWWT
 
2014-01-19 10:26:59 PM  
The article looks like crap and these data are probably crap but environmental factors can contribute.  Genes don't control everything.
 
2014-01-19 10:27:00 PM  
So, 90% of the people in France are gay then? I never knew that.
 
2014-01-19 10:28:05 PM  
If this is true then pretty much everybody born before 1970 would be gay.
 
2014-01-19 10:30:29 PM  

Slartibreakfast: Pole smoking makes you gay.

NTTAWWT


I'm still trying to figure out the guy that told me and showed me pics for proof.
/I had no idea.
 
2014-01-19 10:30:48 PM  
Dutch neuroscientist Dick Swaab

Not a urologist?

/my dentist is dr. phang
 
2014-01-19 10:31:30 PM  
What about the sound of jackhammers?  Does that make you gay?

www.star941fm.com
 
2014-01-19 10:34:02 PM  
That only works if you drink cosmos and smoke Virginia Slims.
 
2014-01-19 10:34:03 PM  
Wow Subby, everyone knows the answer is always "C". However, I am an exception to that rule. But I do have weird looking little toes. So I guess maybe "B" applies.
 
2014-01-19 10:34:19 PM  
Must've been a ton of gay people back when alcoholic drinks were safer than water.
 
2014-01-19 10:34:41 PM  

12349876: What about the sound of jackhammers?  Does that make you gay?

[www.star941fm.com image 582x670]


True inquiring minds and all.
 
2014-01-19 10:35:49 PM  

12349876: What about the sound of jackhammers?  Does that make you gay?

[www.star941fm.com image 582x670]


Unpossible
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-19 10:36:31 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Slartibreakfast: Pole smoking makes you gay.

NTTAWWT

I'm still trying to figure out the guy that told me and showed me pics for proof.
/I had no idea.


Jon Stewart did a bit with a brit one election about pole smoking... the brit was never on the show again.
 
2014-01-19 10:37:08 PM  
Duh. There's an easy test.
 
2014-01-19 10:37:47 PM  

grumpfuff: Duh. There's an easy test.


Ok, it didn't like that link apparently.
 
2014-01-19 10:38:23 PM  

grumpfuff: grumpfuff: Duh. There's an easy test.

Ok, it didn't like that link apparently.


...the hell Fark?


It was that Yahoo answers thing with the volcano. Sigh.
 
2014-01-19 10:39:17 PM  

12349876: What about the sound of jackhammers?  Does that make you gay?

[www.star941fm.com image 582x670]


No, but I hear being "JackHammered" does.
 
2014-01-19 10:43:03 PM  

pedobearapproved: What if you smoke pot and drink robotussin?


That's how little Fark Admins are born
 
2014-01-19 10:43:34 PM  

12349876: What about the sound of jackhammers?  Does that make you gay?

[www.star941fm.com image 582x670]


Well, if she sits on em...
 
2014-01-19 10:43:56 PM  
Smoking cawk, drinking semen amirite?
 
2014-01-19 10:46:31 PM  
Well, neither of my parents have ever been smokers and neither have been big drinkers, but they do have two gay sons.
 
2014-01-19 10:47:19 PM  

Fano: Smoking cawk, drinking semen amirite?


Nothin' wrong with that unless it's not consensual.
 
2014-01-19 10:53:48 PM  

nanim: So, 90% of the people in France are gay then? I never knew that.


I guess it's called "gay Paris" for a reason.
 
2014-01-19 10:54:15 PM  
the evil tentacles of Satan working their way through the anal chute of your baby.

get out of my ass, Satan!
 
2014-01-19 10:56:01 PM  
In an evolutionary sense, homosexuals actually do make sense. At least when there are siblings.

Single births, not so much. No genetic information passed on, though society still can coerce folks to marry, procreate, and still be closeted--more a social construct, but one that still forces folks to "choose." In an early evolutionary sense, homosexuals still contribute in the troop and tribal dynamic though. One theory is that particular stessors in the womb can force expression of homosexuality. Too much stress during a pregnancy means too little food, too little water, moving around a lot, that means the population maybe isn't served with more folks competing for mates. Homosexuals make sense in that setting: not competing for breeding, but still contributing to the well being of their families, and siblings. Those siblings share genes, and thus, a gay or lesbian sibling IS contributing to the passing on of genes, and helping their siblings' children. In a troop or tribal setting, those individuals are still valuable to the survival of the whole, while not adding to the stress of finding mates for the breeders. The species has non-breeders who contribute to the survival of the whole, and their siblings, and take some of the stress off the community as a whole, and help ensure the survival of the whole. Those traits are still passed on through their siblings, and thus the traits ARE survival related, though not in the most direct sense. Those who have homosexual siblings still pass on their genes, and then perhaps a generation or two down the line, stressors again trigger, and lo, the cycle begins anew, still conserving that gene for the survival of those related.

Artificial stressors triggering this sort of genetic mechanism would make some sense. The mother's body doesn't make a conscious "decision" to "make" a baby homosexual, but a mechanism linked to stress or conditions would make some sense. The tribe is under stress, competition would be increased, and homosexuality would be good for the whole genetic line, and thus, our ability to KEEP putting out yowuns makes some sense, and likewise, the family unit is maintained and cared for.

Not provable, at least without a lot more testing on stressed populations, but there are studies that show populations that have undergone a great amount of stress, like during the Blitz in England, have had increased rates of homosexuality beyond the usual 10%. It will probably take a few more generations of study to sous it out, but I suspect that we're on the right track. These variations aren't exactly "non-survival" as much as conservation within the species. Our complex social lives IS a survival trait, and we've been breeding for a couple of hundred thousand years to cement survival traits, and not all of them are as straightforward as "Thag f*cks b*tches!"

How long did it take to breed dogs like dachshunds, who are fair far from the usual model for wild dogs? To breed not just for body traits, but behavior and attitude? Humans have been self selecting traits, and in social units for a damn sight longer than the 3000 BC that short legged hounds have been found in human settlements. We have continued to select traits that continue to conserve these variations, and that suggests that they aren't just normal and natural, they are actually traits that have helped us survive for a long ass while...
 
2014-01-19 10:56:17 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Fano: Smoking cawk, drinking semen amirite?

Nothin' wrong with that unless it's not consensual.


I dunno, if he's just straight "drinking semen," it sounds like hes walking around with bottles full of the stuff.

Try water sometimes, it's good for you.
 
2014-01-19 10:57:35 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Fano: Smoking cawk, drinking semen amirite?

Nothin' wrong with that unless it's not consensual.


nor is having a gay child, after all. well, i mean he should be to age of consent before homosexual activities but, you know what i mean
 
2014-01-19 10:58:10 PM  
You're the ones claiming to be "born that way."
 
2014-01-19 10:59:26 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: the evil tentacles of Satan working their way through the anal chute of your baby.

get out of my ass, Satan!


He would if you'd just stop leaning back onto his thorny, throbbing member...

/Hells
//one plz
///It was far too tempting a quip to resist...
 
2014-01-19 11:07:01 PM  

ReverendJynxed: You're the ones claiming to be "born that way."


Born this way?

/couldn't bear linking to the original
 
2014-01-19 11:08:26 PM  

hubiestubert: In an evolutionary sense, homosexuals actually do make sense. At least when there are siblings.

Single births, not so much. No genetic information passed on, though society still can coerce folks to marry, procreate, and still be closeted--more a social construct, but one that still forces folks to "choose." In an early evolutionary sense, homosexuals still contribute in the troop and tribal dynamic though. One theory is that particular stessors in the womb can force expression of homosexuality. Too much stress during a pregnancy means too little food, too little water, moving around a lot, that means the population maybe isn't served with more folks competing for mates. Homosexuals make sense in that setting: not competing for breeding, but still contributing to the well being of their families, and siblings. Those siblings share genes, and thus, a gay or lesbian sibling IS contributing to the passing on of genes, and helping their siblings' children. In a troop or tribal setting, those individuals are still valuable to the survival of the whole, while not adding to the stress of finding mates for the breeders. The species has non-breeders who contribute to the survival of the whole, and their siblings, and take some of the stress off the community as a whole, and help ensure the survival of the whole. Those traits are still passed on through their siblings, and thus the traits ARE survival related, though not in the most direct sense. Those who have homosexual siblings still pass on their genes, and then perhaps a generation or two down the line, stressors again trigger, and lo, the cycle begins anew, still conserving that gene for the survival of those related.

Artificial stressors triggering this sort of genetic mechanism would make some sense. The mother's body doesn't make a conscious "decision" to "make" a baby homosexual, but a mechanism linked to stress or conditions would make some sense. The tribe is under stress, competition would be increased, and hom ...


They are called wiener dogs....get with the program.
(owns 2)
 
2014-01-19 11:12:33 PM  

stevenvictx: hubiestubert: In an evolutionary sense, homosexuals actually do make sense. At least when there are siblings.

Single births, not so much. No genetic information passed on, though society still can coerce folks to marry, procreate, and still be closeted--more a social construct, but one that still forces folks to "choose." In an early evolutionary sense, homosexuals still contribute in the troop and tribal dynamic though. One theory is that particular stessors in the womb can force expression of homosexuality. Too much stress during a pregnancy means too little food, too little water, moving around a lot, that means the population maybe isn't served with more folks competing for mates. Homosexuals make sense in that setting: not competing for breeding, but still contributing to the well being of their families, and siblings. Those siblings share genes, and thus, a gay or lesbian sibling IS contributing to the passing on of genes, and helping their siblings' children. In a troop or tribal setting, those individuals are still valuable to the survival of the whole, while not adding to the stress of finding mates for the breeders. The species has non-breeders who contribute to the survival of the whole, and their siblings, and take some of the stress off the community as a whole, and help ensure the survival of the whole. Those traits are still passed on through their siblings, and thus the traits ARE survival related, though not in the most direct sense. Those who have homosexual siblings still pass on their genes, and then perhaps a generation or two down the line, stressors again trigger, and lo, the cycle begins anew, still conserving that gene for the survival of those related.

Artificial stressors triggering this sort of genetic mechanism would make some sense. The mother's body doesn't make a conscious "decision" to "make" a baby homosexual, but a mechanism linked to stress or conditions would make some sense. The tribe is under stress, competition would be incr ...


Anyone who posts that much crap on a site like this has NOTHING useful to say... I am amazed you actually read it.

/Didn't read it
//Am assuming you did
///The whole ass out of u and me thing
 
2014-01-19 11:14:37 PM  
How do they explain bi?

/asking for a friend
//not in denial
///one of the previous is false
 
2014-01-19 11:16:08 PM  

hubiestubert: Humans have been self selecting traits, and in social units for a damn sight longer than the 3000 BC that short legged hounds have been found in human settlements. We have continued to select traits that continue to conserve these variations, and that suggests that they aren't just normal and natural, they are actually traits that have helped us survive for a long ass while..


true
look at all the gay republicans who are married with children
I guess maybe that is what religious breeding does ...
 
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