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(SeattlePI)   A North Texas man who paid $350,000 for the right to hunt an endangered African black rhino said he's had to hire full-time security due to death threats after his name was leaked onto the Internet   (seattlepi.com ) divider line 393
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2014-01-19 11:19:50 PM  
First off; turn down the troll filters for just a second, because I admit my next statement goes completely against common sense.

Dear Environmentalists: Guys like this are you greatest ally.

No, really. The plain fact is that the fees for hunting generally go right into conservation efforts. This guy is paying right into a Black Rhino Conservation fund - so he shoots one, and they get the resources to save 10. It's how most of the hunting works - weird as hell, but seriously, take a look at the money that comes in here.

Now, yes, it's not ideal that the main money for protecting the wildlife comes from people who are paying to shoot the wildlife. However, we have built this paradoxical system and it is working. Don't go crazy about it.
 
2014-01-19 11:20:09 PM  

Joe USer: What I learned from this thread:

Most people don't get the concept of herd management.


Because nature has no idea how to manage itself without human intervention. I mean, the world of animals only got by for milliions of years without humans "managing" the herds. It's a good thing we finally got off our asses and evolved so other species could benefit from our wisdom regarding who live and who dies, and how.
 
2014-01-19 11:21:35 PM  
What I would like to know is just exactly what portion of that $350K is acually going to help save rhinos. Now you can call me skeptical but I think a few rich white people sat down to figure out how to go kill a rhino and mount his head legally. Maybe 10 of em started this thing, each collecting $30K in "administrative" fees and the balance going to save the rhinos. I dunno but I think this sounds about right.
 
2014-01-19 11:21:55 PM  

LanceDearnis: First off; turn down the troll filters for just a second, because I admit my next statement goes completely against common sense.

Dear Environmentalists: Guys like this are you greatest ally.

No, really. The plain fact is that the fees for hunting generally go right into conservation efforts. This guy is paying right into a Black Rhino Conservation fund - so he shoots one, and they get the resources to save 10. It's how most of the hunting works - weird as hell, but seriously, take a look at the money that comes in here.

Now, yes, it's not ideal that the main money for protecting the wildlife comes from people who are paying to shoot the wildlife. However, we have built this paradoxical system and it is working. Don't go crazy about it.


We can object to the man without making comment on the system.

And the man isn't doing this to save the herd. He's doing it because he wants to "experience" the killing of a black rhino. I think we're free to talk shiat about a douchebag like that.
 
2014-01-19 11:22:58 PM  
E

ObliqueAsymptote: Curious how your grandchildren will treat you when you are grumpy and past your breeding age. All the best to you.


So what was your bid to save the animal?   The bidder was contributing to the longevity of the herd, what did you do besides stand on your high horse?  For no cost to you?
 
2014-01-19 11:22:59 PM  

TSD: JK8Fan: bojon: Rhinos don't live forever folks. After they reach a certain age they do not procreate. $350K dedicated to saving the rest of the gene pool versus $0K if the animal just keels over and dies.

I think the issue is he is just paying to shoot the thing. He isn't really hunting it. Basically what will happen is guides will point at one and say "Shoot that one" and douchebag pulls the trigger. Then, he gets to tell all of his douchebag friends about his African hunting adventure - which in reality was just driving out in a Land Rover to where some Rhinos are standing around.

That country has been doing this for years and nobody batted an eye. And then a dude from Texas gets involved and everyone is from Save The farking Animals. Those folks know what they are doing to preserve the animals. Where is the protest line for next year?


Because we as a country have decided that everything that happens anywhere ever is either an opportunity to play the game of identity politics or further the "culture wars."

And for all of you saying how cowardly it is to shoot big game (particularly dangerous game), you have no idea what you're talking about.  There's a reason why entry-level "big game" rifles cost as much as a nicely equipped new car, and why the ammunition runs $20-50 per round.  Hunting (or culling) big game is extraordinarily dangerous and only a small fraction of hunters have the resources and nerve to calmly line up a shot (often with iron sights on double-rifles, meaning they have two shots) on a (sometimes charging) animal, where they need to hit a window that might be no bigger than a grapefruit, otherwise they're farked.
 
2014-01-19 11:23:16 PM  

ZeroCorpse: LanceDearnis: First off; turn down the troll filters for just a second, because I admit my next statement goes completely against common sense.

Dear Environmentalists: Guys like this are you greatest ally.

No, really. The plain fact is that the fees for hunting generally go right into conservation efforts. This guy is paying right into a Black Rhino Conservation fund - so he shoots one, and they get the resources to save 10. It's how most of the hunting works - weird as hell, but seriously, take a look at the money that comes in here.

Now, yes, it's not ideal that the main money for protecting the wildlife comes from people who are paying to shoot the wildlife. However, we have built this paradoxical system and it is working. Don't go crazy about it.

We can object to the man without making comment on the system.

And the man isn't doing this to save the herd. He's doing it because he wants to "experience" the killing of a black rhino. I think we're free to talk shiat about a douchebag like that.


And I don't give a stripper the dollar to help her through medical school, but there ya go...
 
2014-01-19 11:23:29 PM  
He could have just lied and said he wanted to buy the license so no one could buy it and use it.
 
2014-01-19 11:24:24 PM  
so apparently the concept of "you don't hunt an endangered species" never once crossed his impersonation of a mind.
 
2014-01-19 11:24:26 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: kim jong-un: In all honesty, if the animal is of an endangered species and not of a breeding stock, it probably should be killed.  And if you can raise money by killing it, all the better.

If it's not breeding, then all it is doing is taking up resources which could be applied to keeping the breeding stock alive.

Curious how your grandchildren will treat you when you are grumpy and past your breeding age. All the best to you.


news flash:  Animals are not equal to people.  Animals are property and are treated as such.  The rhino herd is a natural resource and must be maintained and preserved as like one...  Just like a farm couldn't possibly operate and keep any animals around and breeding if they didn't occasionally slaughter some and sell the meat and make a profit to use to raise the next generation of meat!
 
2014-01-19 11:25:11 PM  

joepainter: He could have just lied and said he wanted to buy the license so no one could buy it and use it.


But then he'd lose face with his gun club buddies.
 
2014-01-19 11:26:05 PM  
Came for the Sick Puppy reference, leaving satisfied.
 
2014-01-19 11:27:54 PM  

Joe USer: What I learned from this thread:

Most people don't get the concept of herd management.


I'm no expert in this field, but I'm pretty sure most of them have figured out that culling asshats is a pretty good way to manage the herd...
 
2014-01-19 11:28:47 PM  

Fark It: TSD: JK8Fan: bojon: Rhinos don't live forever folks. After they reach a certain age they do not procreate. $350K dedicated to saving the rest of the gene pool versus $0K if the animal just keels over and dies.

I think the issue is he is just paying to shoot the thing. He isn't really hunting it. Basically what will happen is guides will point at one and say "Shoot that one" and douchebag pulls the trigger. Then, he gets to tell all of his douchebag friends about his African hunting adventure - which in reality was just driving out in a Land Rover to where some Rhinos are standing around.

That country has been doing this for years and nobody batted an eye. And then a dude from Texas gets involved and everyone is from Save The farking Animals. Those folks know what they are doing to preserve the animals. Where is the protest line for next year?

Because we as a country have decided that everything that happens anywhere ever is either an opportunity to play the game of identity politics or further the "culture wars."

And for all of you saying how cowardly it is to shoot big game (particularly dangerous game), you have no idea what you're talking about.  There's a reason why entry-level "big game" rifles cost as much as a nicely equipped new car, and why the ammunition runs $20-50 per round.  Hunting (or culling) big game is extraordinarily dangerous and only a small fraction of hunters have the resources and nerve to calmly line up a shot (often with iron sights on double-rifles, meaning they have two shots) on a (sometimes charging) animal, where they need to hit a window that might be no bigger than a grapefruit, otherwise they're farked.


i.imgur.com

The reason is they're pussies.
 
2014-01-19 11:29:45 PM  
i56.tinypic.com
 
2014-01-19 11:29:47 PM  

LanceDearnis: First off; turn down the troll filters for just a second, because I admit my next statement goes completely against common sense.

Dear Environmentalists: Guys like this are you greatest ally.

No, really. The plain fact is that the fees for hunting generally go right into conservation efforts. This guy is paying right into a Black Rhino Conservation fund - so he shoots one, and they get the resources to save 10. It's how most of the hunting works - weird as hell, but seriously, take a look at the money that comes in here.

Now, yes, it's not ideal that the main money for protecting the wildlife comes from people who are paying to shoot the wildlife. However, we have built this paradoxical system and it is working. Don't go crazy about it.


One of the greatest conservationists in US history is Teddy Roosevelt, an active sports hunter.

www.antiquehelper.com

 
2014-01-19 11:30:25 PM  

Maul555: Wow... fark has gone quite rabid and is showing its true lefty colors here almost unanimously...  As a Texan I fully support this hunt, and this mans right to help this endangered species and related conservation efforts while experiencing the thrill of a lifetime.   everyone that is outraged can just go choke on a bag of dicks as far as I care...


Holy hell. I would bet about 70% of the posters in this thread are in various shades of agreement with you.
 
2014-01-19 11:30:35 PM  

pnkgtr: Came for the Sick Puppy reference, leaving satisfied.


Me too.
 
2014-01-19 11:30:36 PM  
claim someone on the street may not agree with your views, and you felt threatened, so had to deliver a pre emptive warning shot because you may feel threatened. (P)rick Perrys Texas.
 
2014-01-19 11:31:36 PM  
Suggestion for North Texas Man:

Pay $350K for the right to hunt the rhino. Hunt it but tranquillise it instead of killing it. Now pose with it, get "intimate" with it, whatever. Take the horn, put a tracking device and a  very visible "[Whomever]'s Rhino" on the rhino in some permanent fashion, and arrange with the park to get the remains when it dies.

You get to be badass intimately-involved hunter man, your silent partner gets the horn (call it an anti-poaching measure) and whatever other bits you end up with, maybe you recoup some costs, you fark with all the people who are calling for your head, and [Whomever] gets a PR firehose which they can point a couple of different ways depending who they are.

Or just kill it. But I think my way is more fun.
 
2014-01-19 11:31:40 PM  

Just_a_Bear: so apparently the concept of "you don't hunt an endangered species" never once crossed his impersonation of a mind.


Apparently the concept of "herd management" never once crossed your impersonation of a mind.

/how much have you contributed to conservation?
 
2014-01-19 11:34:12 PM  
He isn't poaching; he won the legal right to hunt.

The rhino in question is "older, male and nonbreeding" and "was likely to be targeted for removal anyway" due to increased aggression.

Whines about "wah! it's endangered!" fall on deaf ears when one is advocating murder.

I'm neither gun nut not hunting "enthusiast", but I am with this guy: those sending him death threats, or threats of any sort, can EaBoBRD.
 
2014-01-19 11:34:13 PM  

buckler: joepainter: He could have just lied and said he wanted to buy the license so no one could buy it and use it.

But then he'd lose face with his gun club buddies.


Please.  Get realistic.  The man runs a hunting/conservation group in Virginia.  He already bid anonymously for the permit to begin with; the only reason his name is out there is because it was leaked.  And if he had said that he wasn't planning to use it, given his own hunting group, do you think he'd be believed for even a second?

/this of course ignores the fact that Namibia would just issue another permit/kill the rhino themselves if nobody used the permit since the rhino was already marked to die for the good of the rest of the herd
 
2014-01-19 11:35:20 PM  

bojon: Rhinos don't live forever folks. After they reach a certain age they do not procreate. $350K dedicated to saving the rest of the gene pool versus $0K if the animal just keels over and dies.


Thank Christ someone else gets it... but facts be damned, Fark, proceed with your indignant rage.
 
2014-01-19 11:35:46 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: kim jong-un: In all honesty, if the animal is of an endangered species and not of a breeding stock, it probably should be killed.  And if you can raise money by killing it, all the better.

If it's not breeding, then all it is doing is taking up resources which could be applied to keeping the breeding stock alive.

Curious how your grandchildren will treat you when you are grumpy and past your breeding age. All the best to you.


Ask Machine Gun Joe and Frankenstein.
 
2014-01-19 11:36:05 PM  

Fark It: Apparently the concept of "herd management" never once crossed your impersonation of a mind.


Yes, because until humans came around to sort out this problem, rhinos were going to the shiats...
 
2014-01-19 11:37:06 PM  

ultraholland: NewportBarGuy: I think he means to have sex with that large beast.

Bloodninja: Ok baby, we got to hurry, I don't know how long I can keep it ready for you.
j_gurli13: thats ok. ok i'm a japanese schoolgirl, what r u.
Bloodninja: A Rhinocerus. Well, hung like one, thats for sure.
j_gurli13: haha, ok lets go.
j_gurli13: i put my hand through ur hair, and kiss u on the neck.
Bloodninja: I stomp the ground, and snort, to alert you that you are in my breeding territory.
j_gurli13: haha, ok, u know that turns me on.
j_gurli13: i start unbuttoning ur shirt.
Bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't wear shirts.
j_gurli13: No, ur not really a Rhinocerus silly, it's just part of the game.
Bloodninja: Rhinoceruses don't play games. They f**king charge your ass.
j_gurli13: stop, cmon be serious.
Bloodninja: It doesn't get any more serious than a Rhinocerus about to charge your ass.
Bloodninja: I stomp my feet, the dust stirs around my tough skinned feet.
j_gurli13: thats it.
Bloodninja: Nostrils flaring, I lower my head. My horn, like some phallic symbol of my potent virility, is the last thing you see as skulls collide and mine remains the victor. You are now a bloody red ragdoll suspended in the air on my mighty horn.
Bloodninja: F**k am I hard now.


Wow.

/tiptoes out of the thread
 
2014-01-19 11:37:28 PM  
So, he pays/donates a lump sum to help save these animals preservation....

And gets to kill ONE (un-producing male).


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2014-01-19 11:39:17 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Fark It: TSD: JK8Fan: bojon: Rhinos don't live forever folks. After they reach a certain age they do not procreate. $350K dedicated to saving the rest of the gene pool versus $0K if the animal just keels over and dies.

I think the issue is he is just paying to shoot the thing. He isn't really hunting it. Basically what will happen is guides will point at one and say "Shoot that one" and douchebag pulls the trigger. Then, he gets to tell all of his douchebag friends about his African hunting adventure - which in reality was just driving out in a Land Rover to where some Rhinos are standing around.

That country has been doing this for years and nobody batted an eye. And then a dude from Texas gets involved and everyone is from Save The farking Animals. Those folks know what they are doing to preserve the animals. Where is the protest line for next year?

Because we as a country have decided that everything that happens anywhere ever is either an opportunity to play the game of identity politics or further the "culture wars."

And for all of you saying how cowardly it is to shoot big game (particularly dangerous game), you have no idea what you're talking about.  There's a reason why entry-level "big game" rifles cost as much as a nicely equipped new car, and why the ammunition runs $20-50 per round.  Hunting (or culling) big game is extraordinarily dangerous and only a small fraction of hunters have the resources and nerve to calmly line up a shot (often with iron sights on double-rifles, meaning they have two shots) on a (sometimes charging) animal, where they need to hit a window that might be no bigger than a grapefruit, otherwise they're farked.

[i.imgur.com image 450x361]

The reason is they're pussies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bison_hunting#Prehistoric_and_native_hu nt ing

"Mann discussed the evidence that Native Americans not only created (by selective use of fire) the large grasslands that provided the bison's ideal habitat but also kept the bison population regulated. In this theory, it was only when the original human population was devastated by wave after wave of epidemic (from diseases of Europeans) after the 16th century that the bison herds propagated wildly. In such a view, the seas of bison herds that stretched to the horizon were a symptom of an ecology out of balance, only rendered possible by decades of heavier-than-average rainfall. "

"What is not disputed is that before the introduction of horses, bison were herded into large chutes made of rocks and willow branches and trapped in a corral called a Buffalo pound, and then slaughtered or stampeded over cliffs, called Buffalo jumps.Both pound and jump archaeological sites are found in several places in the U.S. and Canada. In the case of a jump, large groups of people would herd the bison for several miles, forcing them into a stampede that would ultimately drive many animals over a cliff. The large quantities of meat obtained in this way provided the hunters with surplus, which was used in trade."

"Later when Plains Indians obtained horses, it was found that a good horseman could easily lance or shoot enough bison to keep his tribe and family fed, as long as a herd was nearby."

The image you have in your head of a lone Native American charging up on horseback and hitting a bison with an arrow is a fiction created by 19th Century painters.  They used guns as soon as European settlers started trading them.
 
2014-01-19 11:40:03 PM  

spqr_ca: Yes, because until humans came around to sort out this problem, rhinos were going to the shiats...


It must shock you to learn that countless species have gone extinct for millions of years before assistance from mankind.
 
2014-01-19 11:40:52 PM  
Why is it ok to buy the opportunity to murder the animal when we cannot buy the chance to throw the switch of Ol' Sparky? Would it be unethical? Is that why we keep it to the official persons?

People are outraged because it leaves the realm of official duties and starts making headway into private hunts for those with the cash. If you really care about the herd, donate to the reserve and let them cull in an official capacity. Like an execution.

And with that, have a nice night all.
 
2014-01-19 11:40:56 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Joe USer: What I learned from this thread:

Most people don't get the concept of herd management.

Because nature has no idea how to manage itself without human intervention. I mean, the world of animals only got by for milliions of years without humans "managing" the herds. It's a good thing we finally got off our asses and evolved so other species could benefit from our wisdom regarding who live and who dies, and how.


"Sure these highly endangered animals are living in a tightly controlled environment where even the death of one reproductive member threatens the entire species and yeah, that old rhino is a threat to younger animals and would be culled anyone for their safety... but I think letting nature take it's course is for the best, all those silly conservation efforts is practically rape. ANIMAL RAPE"
 
2014-01-19 11:41:24 PM  

NEDM: buckler: joepainter: He could have just lied and said he wanted to buy the license so no one could buy it and use it.

But then he'd lose face with his gun club buddies.

Please.  Get realistic.  The man runs a hunting/conservation group in Virginia.  He already bid anonymously for the permit to begin with; the only reason his name is out there is because it was leaked.  And if he had said that he wasn't planning to use it, given his own hunting group, do you think he'd be believed for even a second?

/this of course ignores the fact that Namibia would just issue another permit/kill the rhino themselves if nobody used the permit since the rhino was already marked to die for the good of the rest of the herd


//DNRTFA or research who the guy is
 
2014-01-19 11:41:55 PM  
he won last week's Dallas Safari Club auction to hunt a black rhino in the African nation of Namibia. The club says the permit was auctioned to raise money for efforts to protect and conserve the species.

i14.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-19 11:42:25 PM  

spqr_ca: Fark It: Apparently the concept of "herd management" never once crossed your impersonation of a mind.

Yes, because until humans came around to sort out this problem, rhinos were going to the shiats...


Well, technically speaking, until man proliferated and began destroying natural habitat and upsetting natural ecosystems causing the balance of predator and prey to be thrown off, and proved to be a prolific predator himself, they were doing great.

But we farked up the balance and now have to fight to save these species of animals, which includes herd management.

Here's a hint: humans are predators. We kill other animals. Have for thousands of years, and are part of that whole natural ecosystem thing. This includes killing animals to maintain the health of the herd. We just also inject a natural constraint on it to keep the balance.

Humans are not apart from nature.
 
2014-01-19 11:42:29 PM  

Fark It: ReverendJynxed: Fark It: TSD: JK8Fan: bojon: Rhinos don't live forever folks. After they reach a certain age they do not procreate. $350K dedicated to saving the rest of the gene pool versus $0K if the animal just keels over and dies.

I think the issue is he is just paying to shoot the thing. He isn't really hunting it. Basically what will happen is guides will point at one and say "Shoot that one" and douchebag pulls the trigger. Then, he gets to tell all of his douchebag friends about his African hunting adventure - which in reality was just driving out in a Land Rover to where some Rhinos are standing around.

That country has been doing this for years and nobody batted an eye. And then a dude from Texas gets involved and everyone is from Save The farking Animals. Those folks know what they are doing to preserve the animals. Where is the protest line for next year?

Because we as a country have decided that everything that happens anywhere ever is either an opportunity to play the game of identity politics or further the "culture wars."

And for all of you saying how cowardly it is to shoot big game (particularly dangerous game), you have no idea what you're talking about.  There's a reason why entry-level "big game" rifles cost as much as a nicely equipped new car, and why the ammunition runs $20-50 per round.  Hunting (or culling) big game is extraordinarily dangerous and only a small fraction of hunters have the resources and nerve to calmly line up a shot (often with iron sights on double-rifles, meaning they have two shots) on a (sometimes charging) animal, where they need to hit a window that might be no bigger than a grapefruit, otherwise they're farked.

[i.imgur.com image 450x361]

The reason is they're pussies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bison_hunting#Prehistoric_and_native_hu nt ing

"Mann discussed the evidence that Native Americans not only created (by selective use of fire) the large grasslands that provided the bison's ideal habitat but also ke ...


It was the first image I grabbed. I could have done the riders with spears but I didn't think you needed it to get the point. Big game has been hunted without firearms for a long, long, long, long time. I was mistaken.

/Now I'm out
 
2014-01-19 11:43:05 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Why is it ok to buy the opportunity to murder the animal when we cannot buy the chance to throw the switch of Ol' Sparky? Would it be unethical? Is that why we keep it to the official persons?

People are outraged because it leaves the realm of official duties and starts making headway into private hunts for those with the cash. If you really care about the herd, donate to the reserve and let them cull in an official capacity. Like an execution.

And with that, have a nice night all.


The cull is being done in an official capacity, under the supervision of game wardens.

If you care about the herd then pony up some cabbage instead of whining about your feelings on the internet.
 
pc
2014-01-19 11:43:54 PM  
Kit Fister:

I came here to point out that this hunt was of an animal well past it's breeding years that is aggressive and prevents younger males from breeding, thus stymying the growth of the population, and thus actually a hindrance to maintaining a healthy population. Also I was going to point out that the government of Nairobi has one of the best conservation programs in the world and that they use the money from this hunt to further the program to preserve the species as a whole. Finally I was going to point out that this animal would be killed either way, in order to preserve the herd, and making money off of it to continue the program was a side benefit.

Glad to see it was already mentioned.


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2014-01-19 11:44:03 PM  

GoldSpider: spqr_ca: Yes, because until humans came around to sort out this problem, rhinos were going to the shiats...

It must shock you to learn that countless species have gone extinct for millions of years before assistance from mankind.


It must shock you to learn that it usually wasn't a consequence of old age.
 
2014-01-19 11:45:34 PM  
Well if they plan to eat him...
 
2014-01-19 11:46:28 PM  
I don't like hunting but I'm not gonna donate $350,000 to the cause, so he's doing a lot more good than I would.
 
2014-01-19 11:47:07 PM  

doglover: ecmoRandomNumbers: doglover: He's a hunter. fark him. He knows how the game works.

You're sitting at home, peacefully eating lunch with your family when BLAM a bullet rips out your lungs. You gasp uselessly as blood froths out of mouth and collapse. The last thing you see in your tunnel vision is your wife and children covered in your blood as you fall to the floor. A man in an orange vest kicks in your door and starts to decapitate you, because all he wanted was your head on his wall, but while your family is running away he takes a nice long look at your son and says "Soon, I'm coming back for him!"

Jesus.

Animals are conscious beings. Just because they're tasty and you're ignorant doesn't mean that they're some kind of meat robot. They've each got moods, personalities, memories. Even hive insects of exceedingly uniform nature, like ants, have some variations and learn by experience.

So, they do indeed have a valid perspective of what hunting is like from their end. The only hunters I respect in the day of industrial slaughter houses and high powered rifles are sniper scouts, or "hunters of gunmen" as they dub themselves.

Anyone else is cheating because animals can't shoot back.


So you're a vagitarian?
 
2014-01-19 11:47:27 PM  

spqr_ca: It must shock you to learn that it usually wasn't a consequence of old age.


Are you posting under the impression that species populations were static until humans started hunting them?  Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
 
2014-01-19 11:47:52 PM  

Kit Fister: But we farked up the balance and now have to fight to save these species of animals, which includes herd management.


I, I actually agree, having once been a hunter. But here's the thing: what did this guy think was going to happen? It isn't so much that the rhino might need to be killed for the purpose of herd management, but that people get offended by the sport aspect of it. I have zero issue with hunting as a basic concept, but trophy hunting just sets my teeth on edge, even if he gets to pretend to be pious about it in the process.
 
2014-01-19 11:48:21 PM  

hardinparamedic: Kit Fister: But yes, hunting is bad, mmmkay.

Hunting is okay if you're doing it for the right reasons - food, population control, tradition...

Those reasons are not including bragging rights and a horn to mount on your wall.


Tradition is no reason at all
 
2014-01-19 11:48:27 PM  
This edition of FARK's Sunday Evening Flame War brought to you by the letters W, T, and F.
 
2014-01-19 11:48:37 PM  
I just got done eating a big ol' bowl of venison chili, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.  A guy I knew who hunted in Germany told me they say a prayer for the animals they harvested that day.  That stuck with me and I think about it at the end of a hunt.

I don't hunt for trophies myself, but if what is written about the rhino being ready for cull is true I have no problem with this guy.
 
2014-01-19 11:49:17 PM  
Yeaaah. Calling BS on this one, especially after I've seen him give 2 handfuls of interviews about how what he was doing was "saving" the black rhino through conservation because his money was going to that cause.

Hey asshole, if you cared about conservation of the black rhino, you'd DONATE the money instead of shooting them. Surely you understand basic math: + your money - shooting rhino = rhino + your money.

Redeem yourself by donating your money OR "hunting" that rhino with nothing more than a bowie knife. That's sporting and I'd consider it fair, if you've the balls.
 
2014-01-19 11:50:32 PM  

GoldSpider: spqr_ca: It must shock you to learn that it usually wasn't a consequence of old age.

Are you posting under the impression that species populations were static until humans started hunting them?  Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.


No, I'm not. I'm noting that herd management is an issue today because humanity farked things up. These species are endangered because we screwed it up. This dude wants a trophy, that form of hunting just bugs me. Hunting for need, that's different, but it's lure of the trophy that has put this species in this position in the first place.
 
2014-01-19 11:50:58 PM  
I say let these assholes hunt all the rhinos they want....with spears.
 
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