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(Blog Maverick)   Mark Cuban says he has reduced his Googling because Google can't find or index most of the breaking news he's interested in reading. "Aren't they missing most of the information that is being communicated in the world?"   (blogmaverick.com) divider line 46
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2014-01-19 02:02:33 PM
I'll agree that the recent changes in Google's Search algorithm have decreased Google's usefulness. Still, one thing to note is your search results will be completely different depending on which browser you use and whether or not you are signed in to Google.

For example, my main surfing browser is Safari but I use Chrome (and Chrome Canary) for web development. If I am looking for a code snippet, my results in Chrome are horrendous and often don't even relate to what I am searching for. In Safari, I get results that are relevant.

To Mark's point about scores, using the date filters with Google will usually show the scoreboard at the top of the results - this is true for almost any major sporting event.

I could see the usefulness of including all the social media outlets in search results. But we are dealing with a Google that was intending to push people to Google+. Once Google realizes Plus has been a complete failure, maybe that will happen.
 
2014-01-19 02:03:19 PM
Also, Mark Cuban is still a douche.

/not subby
 
2014-01-19 02:45:01 PM
Google is useful for looking up trivial things. It usually gives me the fastest path to the relevant Wikipedia article. For news, Google is crap.
 
2014-01-19 04:46:59 PM
The googles, they do nothing?

^_^
 
2014-01-19 04:47:36 PM
Mark CUBAN HATES the REGISTER, ENRAGED boffins CLAim
 
2014-01-19 05:05:58 PM
So buy Google and fix it yourself you stinking rich coont.
 
2014-01-19 05:08:30 PM
I read this in the voice of some twat choking back tears. Made me able to get through it.
 
2014-01-19 06:04:03 PM
You want fast... Twitter with a carefully selected maybe 50 news and sport sources.  You want accurate, check back tomorrow.
 
2014-01-19 07:01:35 PM

sno man: You want fast... Twitter with a carefully selected maybe 50 news and sport sources.  You want accurate, check back tomorrow.


This. People want accurate news, but are too impatient to wait until details have been verified (or even start coming in, rather than having an article based on pure supposition); people want immediate news; but then complain when their immediate news is inaccurate (such as CNN's coverage of the Boston bombing).

Immediate Accurate

Choose one.
 
2014-01-19 07:02:11 PM
Also, I went a bit semi-colon happy there. In my defence, I'm stone sober.
 
2014-01-19 08:02:44 PM
Is he searching google.com or news.google.com?

They're 2 different searches for 2 different purposes.
Pro Tip: if you're a student, use scholar.google.com

Try searching for "beer" on each of the above and look at how the results vary.
 
2014-01-19 08:05:34 PM

sno man: You want fast... Twitter with a carefully selected maybe 50 news and sport sources.  You want accurate, check back tomorrow.


In the past week I have seen tenured law professors retweeting just obviously wrong crime statistics. From a Buzzfeed link!

I've caught (a fark favorite person) doing pretty much the same thing, retumblring obviously wrong crime stats on tumblr.

I read an article this morning that tried to differentiate the sort of "casual social sharing" errors of the sort I just mentioned that it's expected people can make and shouldn't even feel the apologize for with the horrible sort of error that a person should commit sepuku over.

This is not to say Google is good for real time news, just that twitter, tumblr, all that shiat is shiat.
 
2014-01-19 08:11:47 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Google is useful for looking up trivial things. It usually gives me the fastest path to the relevant Wikipedia article. For news, Google is crap.


When I used to submit more news.google.com was a good resource. You can filter by most recent. I used to get to my office and would get alerts for articles containing topics of interest: "freak accident," "fecal matter," "parents outraged," etc.
 
2014-01-19 08:12:08 PM
Marc Cuban can afford a Bloomberg terminal. Not that the breaking news on it means a damn.

I suggest he try a low information diet.
 
2014-01-19 08:17:05 PM
I think I speak for most people when I say "who?"

But regardless, it's foolish to assume that google doesn't have plans to implement something to fill this potential void. Probably another search tab option for "social" searches, which searches feeds and twitters and other such dingbat millennial garbage, while keeping the main "info" search tab too.
 
2014-01-19 08:25:00 PM
If I want to find out the instant when @AssyCrappy takes a shiat, I'll check Twitter. If I want to read the latest about wildfires out west, I'll trust Google.
 
2014-01-19 08:25:25 PM
He's not using 'Google Now' then. My Google Now page shows news for things related to my searches/likes. From movie reviews to important news or sports articles.
 
2014-01-19 08:38:32 PM
"Mark Cuban says he has reduced his Googling because Google can't find or index most of the breaking news he's interested in reading."

Maybe append &safe=off to the url would make it more interesting


/if you know what I mean nudge nudge
 
2014-01-19 08:43:59 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: I used to get to my office and would get alerts for articles containing topics of interest: "freak accident," "fecal matter," "parents outraged," etc.


HAHA! If you get an article with all three, it must be like getting coke and whores for Christmas.
 
2014-01-19 08:53:20 PM
Wait I thought he was really sick and his brother took over the country.
 
2014-01-19 09:06:00 PM

ScreamingHangover: Is he searching google.com or news.google.com?

They're 2 different searches for 2 different purposes.


This.  BUT, they don't promote it well. There isn't even a shortcut to it on my login page.
 
2014-01-19 09:11:40 PM

joshiz: For example, my main surfing browser is Safari but I use Chrome (and Chrome Canary) for web development. If I am looking for a code snippet, my results in Chrome are horrendous and often don't even relate to what I am searching for. In Safari, I get results that are relevant.


Curious, what language? I search for powershell snippets all the time and google+chrome never lets me down.
 
2014-01-19 09:34:35 PM

ubermensch: If I want to find out the instant when @AssyCrappy takes a shiat, I'll check Twitter. If I want to read the latest about wildfires out west, I'll trust Google.


If you are following @AssyCrappy on twitter - you deserve the tweets you get.

/and good luck 'trusting' google
 
2014-01-19 11:04:50 PM

SteakMan: Curious, what language? I search for powershell snippets all the time and google+chrome never lets me down.


Mostly I'm searching for PHP (WordPress) and jQuery. Actually I just figured it out. I had Chrome set to return results from only the previous year by default which you can't do by default in Safari. If I choose 'Any Time' the results are identical.
 
2014-01-19 11:39:42 PM
This just proves that 99% of people don't know how to use the internet.  If you want to find something, use the proper tool for the job.
 
2014-01-20 12:29:14 AM
So, in Douchebagland, if you can't find it on social-ego-media it isn't worth finding...

Fascinating...  it must be broken... release the hounds...
 
2014-01-20 12:29:37 AM
I prefer a metasearch engine...or Bing for media.
 
2014-01-20 03:07:03 AM
When I care about greenlights (Once a year or so) I use google.

Search tools
         ;24hours;sorted by date;news

In that order. Then, and this is the key part. Type a word in. like kill, volcano, idiot or earthquake ect.

I just did it got a news article from ABC that was posted 7 seconds ago among 8 pages of hits.
 
2014-01-20 03:08:12 AM

p4p3rm4t3: When I care about greenlights (Once a year or so) I use google.

Search tools
         ;pasthour;sorted by date;news

In that order. Then, and this is the key part. Type a word in. like kill, volcano, idiot or earthquake ect.

I just did it got a news article from ABC that was posted 7 seconds ago among 8 pages of hits.


FT
 
2014-01-20 04:05:38 AM
eicolab.com.au
 
2014-01-20 06:14:12 AM
Meh. "Social media" is a fad. Wake me up when it's all blown over, OK?
 
2014-01-20 06:56:52 AM
He's right.

There needs to be a conservagoogle, to unskew the search results and only give you the truthy news you trust.
 
2014-01-20 07:26:01 AM
Meh I'd still fark him he's a DILF
 
2014-01-20 08:29:13 AM

Ishkur: He's right.

There needs to be a conservagoogle, to unskew the search results and only give you the truthy news you trust.


Fox News?
 
2014-01-20 09:30:44 AM
If he'd loan me $5 I would buy him a TotalFARK subsription so he'd know what disappointment is realy like.
 
2014-01-20 11:53:23 AM
I miss Google's searchable Twitter archive from three or so years ago.
 
2014-01-20 11:54:57 AM

Jesus McSordid: Meh. "Social media" is a fad. Wake me up when it's all blown over, OK?


This.

Except I'm serious.

None of the things he mentions as Google failings (and particularly sports) are anything I ever find of value.  "Social" posting is for time wasting sites like this one, not for anything important and both real-time and searchworthy.

That said, I don't use Google anymore, for reasoNS Apparent to anyone.  The competition is still inferior, to be sure, but it's adequate.  And no, silly, I don't mean "Bing".
 
2014-01-20 12:01:47 PM

joshiz: For example, my main surfing browser is Safari but I use Chrome (and Chrome Canary) for web development. If I am looking for a code snippet, my results in Chrome are horrendous and often don't even relate to what I am searching for. In Safari, I get results that are relevant.


Isn't the search engine more relevant than the browser?


RoyBatty: In the past week I have seen tenured law professors retweeting just obviously wrong crime statistics. From a Buzzfeed link!

I've caught (a fark favorite person) doing pretty much the same thing, retumblring obviously wrong crime stats on tumblr.


That's pretty much SOP for Fark though.
 
2014-01-20 12:13:28 PM
If Google isn't indexing what is said on twitter/facebook/pinterest/tumbler/instagram/SnapChat /all the topic&affinity  apps (your favorite team/band/etc)  and elsewhere, aren't they missing most of the information that is being communicated in the world ?

I'm thinking after the beating the word "information" just took in that sentence, we should just put it out of it's misery.  Might be the more humane thing to do.
 
2014-01-20 01:51:03 PM
What is up with google's time stamps. That story from "1 hour ago" could be 20 minutes or 3 hours if you rerun the search and neither matches the timestamp on the article itself.
 
2014-01-20 02:02:05 PM

Tobin_Lam: What is up with google's time stamps. That story from "1 hour ago" could be 20 minutes or 3 hours if you rerun the search and neither matches the timestamp on the article itself.


That's nothing.  Ever try to do a search within GMail?  "23 of 42 results".  Click next page.  "41 of 61 results".  Next page.  "55 of 236 results".  It's horrible.  This sort of thing is mildly amusing and inconsequential when doing a web search, but when searching the fixed dataset of YOUR OWN MAILBOX, it's asinine.

I really don't understand how anyone can like GMail (for this and many other reasons).
 
2014-01-20 03:01:49 PM
Ill stick with Google as there is nothing on twitter/facebook/pinterest/tumbler/instagram/SnapChat /all the topic&affinity that I care to read.
 
2014-01-20 04:08:32 PM
As long as we're on the subject, what's the deal with Mark Cuban's funky hair, anyway?
 
2014-01-20 06:04:00 PM

Far Cough: As long as we're on the subject, what's the deal with Mark Cuban's funky hair, anyway?


Type it into MetaCrawler.
 
2014-01-20 06:05:41 PM
I used to love Metacrawler!
 
2014-01-21 08:31:32 AM

joshiz: I'll agree that the recent changes in Google's Search algorithm have decreased Google's usefulness. Still, one thing to note is your search results will be completely different depending on which browser you use and whether or not you are signed in to Google.

For example, my main surfing browser is Safari but I use Chrome (and Chrome Canary) for web development. If I am looking for a code snippet, my results in Chrome are horrendous and often don't even relate to what I am searching for. In Safari, I get results that are relevant.

To Mark's point about scores, using the date filters with Google will usually show the scoreboard at the top of the results - this is true for almost any major sporting event.

I could see the usefulness of including all the social media outlets in search results. But we are dealing with a Google that was intending to push people to Google+. Once Google realizes Plus has been a complete failure, maybe that will happen.


I do web development for a living, and personally I can't stand Chrome. Firefox's developer tools are orders of magnitude better since they refined them to be like firebug on steroids. Chrome's console not logging each http and css transfer; and each ajax requests is pet peeve #1 for me.
 
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