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2014-01-19 09:37:58 PM
I'm guessing this is the test case where every Republican will now be on morning talk shows on Monday proclaiming that pot should be legalized everywhere, "just to screw over Obama."
 
2014-01-19 09:38:01 PM

Snapper Carr: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: I would love to smoke a fattie with the president.

Obama bogarts

/based on that and other things I've read, I don't think I would have enjoyed toking with the POTUS in his youth. My crowd was much mellower when it came to smoking.


I'm saddened to hear this.
 
2014-01-19 09:40:05 PM

Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.


Glad to see this was covered. I have nothing more to add.
 
2014-01-19 09:40:36 PM
Just refresh my memory; how long was it from his coming out in favor of gay marriage and the Supremes invalidating (CA's) Proposition 8?
 
2014-01-19 09:42:47 PM

glmorrs1: Legalize marijuana, decriminalize the rest, use the money saved on incarcerating people to fund treatment programs. You know, pretty much what Portugal did except for making weed legal.


B-but that's SOSHALZM!
 
2014-01-19 09:47:06 PM

hubiestubert: Where are the Libertarians lauding Obama for his coming to his senses?

I thought this was the day y'all were dreaming of...


It's a good sign that pot legalization is polling well. He doesn't need a weatherman to tell him which way the wind is blowing.
 
2014-01-19 09:47:12 PM

hubiestubert: Where are the Libertarians lauding Obama for his coming to his senses?

I thought this was the day y'all were dreaming of...


When he actually does something, I'll give him a golf clap and ask him what the fark took him so long. Then I'll ask why he's not doing any mass pardons for the millions in jail for simple possession.
 
2014-01-19 09:52:15 PM

Mentat: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

The entire original article is really great.


Thank you for that link. Good reading.
 
2014-01-19 10:33:54 PM

vygramul: MJMaloney187: Way to jump on the bandwagon, President Hypocrite.

Would you prefer he be staunchly anti-pot?


Of course not!! But he was when it was politically convenient (because he a p*ssy). He should have made those remarks 5 years ago. He didn't. I remember some natty-nelly asking him at a "town hall" meeting several years ago, "Saint POTUS, should the devil weed be legalized?" The old hypocrite said, "no". The audience actually applauded. Morons.

Concerning the sweet, sweet cheeba, President Obama is a hypocrite.
 
2014-01-19 10:35:35 PM

MJMaloney187: vygramul: MJMaloney187: Way to jump on the bandwagon, President Hypocrite.

Would you prefer he be staunchly anti-pot?

Of course not!! But he was when it was politically convenient (because he's a p*ssy). He should have made those remarks 5 years ago. He didn't. I remember some natty-nelly asking him at a "town hall" meeting several years ago, "Saint POTUS, should the devil weed be legalized?" The old hypocrite said, "no". The audience actually applauded. Morons.

Concerning the sweet, sweet cheeba, President Obama is a hypocrite.


FTFM.
 
2014-01-19 10:42:18 PM

MJMaloney187: vygramul: MJMaloney187: Way to jump on the bandwagon, President Hypocrite.

Would you prefer he be staunchly anti-pot?

Of course not!! But he was when it was politically convenient (because he a p*ssy politician). He should have made those remarks 5 years ago. He didn't. I remember some natty-nelly asking him at a "town hall" meeting several years ago, "Saint POTUS, should the devil weed be legalized?" The old hypocrite said, "no". The audience actually applauded. Morons.

Concerning the sweet, sweet cheeba, President Obama is a hypocrite.


FTFY.
 
2014-01-19 11:15:19 PM
Who has authority to re-schedule marijuana?  How about doing that?  Make it schedule 3 or 4.
 
2014-01-19 11:17:03 PM

TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).


Don't forget local police--asset forfeiture is one sweet gravy train.
 
2014-01-19 11:18:16 PM

fusillade762: phillydrifter: Lsherm: [nicotine, caffeine addictive]


You know, I've found it curious for years that although nicotine and caffeine are in fact addictive (and cigarettes can actually kill your ass), people never lose careers, marriages, children, homes and etc., due to being addicted to these substances. They're even progressive - use them enough, and you build up a tolerance so you need more to achieve the same effect. Nobody starts out smoking two packs a day, but nobody's life falls apart as a direct result of it either.

Odd.

/Now...alcohol? Universal solvent! Dissolves households, marriages, careers...
 
2014-01-19 11:21:30 PM

JolobinSmokin: I'm scared and nothing 0bummer can say will stop me from being scared.

So vote republican


I voted for Weedlord Bonerhitler.
 
2014-01-19 11:23:28 PM

dr_blasto: Frederick: Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.

Like cigarettes?

/probably already stated

Alcohol too. I'm all for legalizing cocaine, H, meth and the like. Turn that enforcement money over to treatment money. Ban importation of drugs or their precursors. Tax the holy bejeebus out of it to help pay for the treatment. Put actual criminals in jail.


Agreed.
I have personal experience with most of these drugs and alcohol is by far the most destructive -yet totally legal.
 
2014-01-19 11:25:04 PM

flondrix: TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).

Don't forget local police--asset forfeiture is one sweet gravy train.


In other words, the irony is that the ones who claim to uphold law & order are just a  bunch of control-freak buttholes.
 
2014-01-19 11:31:34 PM

Icky biatchholes disagrees

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2014-01-19 11:39:41 PM

Frederick: I have personal experience with most of these drugs and alcohol is by far the most destructive -yet totally legal.


For a certain segment of the population, it's incredibly destructive. For most people, alcohol is routine, non-addictive, and easily managed. Alcoholism is caused by a difference in brain chemistry, for the vast majority of people alcohol is fine. 10% of the population or thereabouts suffers from addiction, but the rest of us don't.

While it's terrible for that 10%, you can't base policy around that 10% when it's a popular and relatively safe drug for 90%. We regulate its use, certainly, but the law can't ban steak because it's unsafe for babies to eat. Crack and meth are harmful to 100%. Nicotine is addictive to something like 90%- there are people who are don't respond, but they're few, and tobacco products, the source of the vast majority of nicotine, are harmful to 100%, though the harm is over the long term, where the harm from hard drugs and alcohol addiction is pretty immediate.
 
2014-01-19 11:41:42 PM

CptnSpldng: Mentat: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

The entire original article is really great.

Thank you for that link. Good reading.


One thing I found really fascinating in that article.  The GOP/Tea Party is constantly accusing Obama of being a dictator.  Meanwhile, progressives have been pressing Obama to use executive orders to bypass Congress, but Obama keeps telling them, "No, we have a Constitution and we have to follow it."
 
2014-01-19 11:42:06 PM
Can you get addicted to marijuana? Maybe, but I smoked for years, and had to quit for a new job. Cold turkey for about 3 months. Aside from being bummed, and really wanting a doob, there were no side effects. Was I addicted? Yeah, probably. I smoked every day and night for 6+ years prior. But when I had to get things straight to get a better paying job I did what I had to do, but I saw it as more of an inconvenience than any sort of addiction. I was annoyed I had to quit, but that was it. Conversely, look at someone detoxing off of meth, coke or heroin, then look at someone who has to quit smoking weed. You will see a drastically different situation.  I think addiction is a very broad term, that is often mislabeled, where it may be more of habitual use rather than a life controlling obsession. There is no physical addiction with marijuana. It's all psychological. And with that, your mileage might vary as to your experience when you try to stop. 

But with many Americans and alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, most are habitual users, but not to any point where they'd pimp out their daughters, steal cars, or rob liquor stores to maintain the habit. I had to manage my money better and budget for my smoke. There's a bit sorted for cable, internet, groceries, and smoke. And guess what, 10 years later, I am still with the same company that I had to quit for. Doing quite well. Making a respectable living.
 
2014-01-19 11:46:03 PM

Mentat: CptnSpldng: Mentat: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

The entire original article is really great.

Thank you for that link. Good reading.

One thing I found really fascinating in that article.  The GOP/Tea Party is constantly accusing Obama of being a dictator.  Meanwhile, progressives have been pressing Obama to use executive orders to bypass Congress, but Obama keeps telling them, "No, we have a Constitution and we have to follow it."


Well, no one ever accused them of having a firm grasp on reality.
 
2014-01-19 11:51:13 PM

Frederick: dr_blasto: Frederick: Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.

Like cigarettes?

/probably already stated

Alcohol too. I'm all for legalizing cocaine, H, meth and the like. Turn that enforcement money over to treatment money. Ban importation of drugs or their precursors. Tax the holy bejeebus out of it to help pay for the treatment. Put actual criminals in jail.

Agreed.
I have personal experience with most of these drugs and alcohol is by far the most destructive -yet totally legal.


Just don't flog that point too hard, you'll give them the idea to ban it again.
 
2014-01-20 12:06:16 AM
Had to fight/restrain/respond for multiple people on ethanol/pcp/meth/dexromorphan/spice/potpourri. 

Seen multiple polypharmaceutical overdoses who aspirated or quit breathing. 

Only had one call involving marijuana  as the sole drug (untampered at least). Teenagers who ate too many brownies and then their stomachs hurt and they were puking. 

Legalize it, tax it, use the money for mental health/drug addiction research and treatment like the tobacco tax and cancer research.
 
2014-01-20 12:25:00 AM

duke3522: Seriously, I'm 52yo and I never thought I would see this in my lifetime.  Now perhaps I know how my LGBT friends are feeling right now.  Good for the POTUS.  I'm one fat, old white guy who is proud to have voted for him twice!!

/I hope it makes up for voting Reagen twice


Nice to see some honesty here. I'm more than ten years younger, but I too voted for him twice and never thought I would hear this.

Contrary to popular FW: fwd: fwd: fwd:.... I do not have buyers remorse either.
 
2014-01-20 12:28:56 AM

Ivo Shandor: Cool. Now how about letting Marc Emery go back to Canada?


Yea but he ripped off a lot of people in the growing community back in the day as well... He's not a nice guy.
 
2014-01-20 01:01:29 AM
Bane of Broone:

Also the rate of smoking has declined significantly over those 50 years. Count me among them. 1 week as of today.

Congratulations.
 
2014-01-20 01:02:46 AM

aszure: Can you get addicted to marijuana? Maybe, but I smoked for years, and had to quit for a new job. Cold turkey for about 3 months. Aside from being bummed, and really wanting a doob, there were no side effects. Was I addicted? Yeah, probably. I smoked every day and night for 6+ years prior. But when I had to get things straight to get a better paying job I did what I had to do, but I saw it as more of an inconvenience than any sort of addiction. I was annoyed I had to quit, but that was it. Conversely, look at someone detoxing off of meth, coke or heroin, then look at someone who has to quit smoking weed. You will see a drastically different situation.  I think addiction is a very broad term, that is often mislabeled, where it may be more of habitual use rather than a life controlling obsession. There is no physical addiction with marijuana. It's all psychological. And with that, your mileage might vary as to your experience when you try to stop. 

But with many Americans and alcohol, caffeine and nicotine, most are habitual users, but not to any point where they'd pimp out their daughters, steal cars, or rob liquor stores to maintain the habit. I had to manage my money better and budget for my smoke. There's a bit sorted for cable, internet, groceries, and smoke. And guess what, 10 years later, I am still with the same company that I had to quit for. Doing quite well. Making a respectable living.


I don't know. I know plenty of people who use coke as a recreational party drug maybe once or twice a month and have no problems not using for the other 340-ish days of the year. In fact, I've only known one person who was actually "addicted" to Cocaine. I was married to get for 5 years, and Eben when she was doing an 8 ball a day, it wasn't really unmanageable until she got into crack and meth.

So, with that in mind, I feel like even "hard" drugs are likely less addictive and dangerous than we make them or to be. Certainly the culture surrounding controlled substances is FAR more dangerous than any of those substances themselves. I firmly believe that if we removed the stigma around being an addict and provided free, effective treatment, we could have a much healthier culture overall. As a bonus, with the illicit thrill gone, I feel like most kids would pass on hard drugs just like kids these days think smoking is lame.
 
2014-01-20 01:04:24 AM

cptjeff: Frederick: I have personal experience with most of these drugs and alcohol is by far the most destructive -yet totally legal.

For a certain segment of the population, it's incredibly destructive. For most people, alcohol is routine, non-addictive, and easily managed. Alcoholism is caused by a difference in brain chemistry, for the vast majority of people alcohol is fine. 10% of the population or thereabouts suffers from addiction, but the rest of us don't.

While it's terrible for that 10%, you can't base policy around that 10% when it's a popular and relatively safe drug for 90%. We regulate its use, certainly, but the law can't ban steak because it's unsafe for babies to eat. Crack and meth are harmful to 100%. Nicotine is addictive to something like 90%- there are people who are don't respond, but they're few, and tobacco products, the source of the vast majority of nicotine, are harmful to 100%, though the harm is over the long term, where the harm from hard drugs and alcohol addiction is pretty immediate.


Did you just make these statistics up?  What is the (obviously your) definition of harmful?
 
2014-01-20 01:07:50 AM

Frederick: cptjeff: Frederick: I have personal experience with most of these drugs and alcohol is by far the most destructive -yet totally legal.

For a certain segment of the population, it's incredibly destructive. For most people, alcohol is routine, non-addictive, and easily managed. Alcoholism is caused by a difference in brain chemistry, for the vast majority of people alcohol is fine. 10% of the population or thereabouts suffers from addiction, but the rest of us don't.

While it's terrible for that 10%, you can't base policy around that 10% when it's a popular and relatively safe drug for 90%. We regulate its use, certainly, but the law can't ban steak because it's unsafe for babies to eat. Crack and meth are harmful to 100%. Nicotine is addictive to something like 90%- there are people who are don't respond, but they're few, and tobacco products, the source of the vast majority of nicotine, are harmful to 100%, though the harm is over the long term, where the harm from hard drugs and alcohol addiction is pretty immediate.

Did you just make these statistics up?  What is the (obviously your) definition of harmful?


Effects caused by the lack of quality control over cocaine, meth and crack production?
 
2014-01-20 01:08:20 AM
Marijuana is worse for your brain than crack and heroin. It turns you into an imbecile. You can prove this by striking up a conversation with any pot head. It is also nothing like a freakin cigarette. Obama's an idiot.
 
2014-01-20 01:10:29 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Marijuana is worse for your brain than crack and heroin. It turns you into an imbecile. You can prove this by striking up a conversation with any pot head. It is also nothing like a freakin cigarette. Obama's an idiot.


Ever try holding a conversation with someone who's drunk?
 
m00
2014-01-20 01:23:37 AM

thehobbes: Legalize it, tax it, use the money for mental health/drug addiction research and treatment like the tobacco tax and cancer research.


Why tax it? Why not just... legalize it. Just because people enjoy something doesn't mean you have to tax it.

When people ask "why legalize pot?" the answer is "because Americans enjoy doing it in the privacy of their homes, hurting no one." By default things should be legal and not taxed. Things that are made illegal and/or taxed are what should be justified, not the other way around.

Tax cars to pay for roads. Tax financial institutions to pay for regulating them so they don't crash our economy every 20 years. Tax cigarettes to pay for end-of-life care for people dying of cancer. Tax alcohol to pay for end-of-life care for people dying of liver disease. Tax weed... why?
 
2014-01-20 01:32:06 AM
"C'mon, kid, try it, it's kinda like a candy cigarette"

-Barrack Hussein Obama
 
2014-01-20 01:32:27 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Marijuana is worse for your brain than crack and heroin. It turns you into an imbecile. You can prove this by striking up a conversation with any pot head.


so by that logic, since you are an imbecile, you are most likely a pot head.
 
m00
2014-01-20 01:32:46 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Marijuana is worse for your brain than crack and heroin.


Nope.

Crack literally causes areas of brain death by destroying the blood vessels of the brain -- it's like giving yourself a bunch of mini strokes.
Heroin destroys your brain's dopmaine balance, probably permanently -- but it doesn't make you dumb... it just makes you chemically imbalanced. Marijuana causes some subtle effects in memory formation.

So it's not worse. Alcohol is worse for your brain long-term than marijuana.
 
2014-01-20 01:33:45 AM

log_jammin: Noam Chimpsky: Marijuana is worse for your brain than crack and heroin. It turns you into an imbecile. You can prove this by striking up a conversation with any pot head.

so by that logic, since you are an imbecile, you are most likely a pot head.


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2014-01-20 01:35:22 AM

m00: thehobbes: Legalize it, tax it, use the money for mental health/drug addiction research and treatment like the tobacco tax and cancer research.

Why tax it? Why not just... legalize it. Just because people enjoy something doesn't mean you have to tax it.

When people ask "why legalize pot?" the answer is "because Americans enjoy doing it in the privacy of their homes, hurting no one." By default things should be legal and not taxed. Things that are made illegal and/or taxed are what should be justified, not the other way around.

Tax cars to pay for roads. Tax financial institutions to pay for regulating them so they don't crash our economy every 20 years. Tax cigarettes to pay for end-of-life care for people dying of cancer. Tax alcohol to pay for end-of-life care for people dying of liver disease. Tax weed... why?



Tax weed in order to pay Phish to never release another album.
Tax weed to cover the cost of earplugs for all Americans so they don't have to listen to some idiot ranting about how great Ron Paul (or his son, Ron W. Paul) is.
Tax weed to pay for public service announcements to remind folks that for every pothead that grows up to be Woody Harrelson or Willie Nelson, there are a hundred who just turn into fatass losers who have read Lord of the Rings too many times.
 
m00
2014-01-20 01:39:54 AM

stoli n coke: Tax weed in order to pay Phish to never release another album.
Tax weed to cover the cost of earplugs for all Americans so they don't have to listen to some idiot ranting about how great Ron Paul (or his son, Ron W. Paul) is.
Tax weed to pay for public service announcements to remind folks that for every pothead that grows up to be Woody Harrelson or Willie Nelson, there are a hundred who just turn into fatass losers who have read Lord of the Rings too many times.


Man, I feel bad for you. It must be hard carrying that much anger towards others.
 
2014-01-20 01:43:49 AM

m00: stoli n coke: Tax weed in order to pay Phish to never release another album.
Tax weed to cover the cost of earplugs for all Americans so they don't have to listen to some idiot ranting about how great Ron Paul (or his son, Ron W. Paul) is.
Tax weed to pay for public service announcements to remind folks that for every pothead that grows up to be Woody Harrelson or Willie Nelson, there are a hundred who just turn into fatass losers who have read Lord of the Rings too many times.

Man, I feel bad for you. It must be hard carrying that much anger towards others.



Hey, I'm all for legalization, and if it there is a way to help cut down on the impacts of jam bands, Paultards, and Tolkien freaks, that's just gravy.
 
2014-01-20 01:46:38 AM
Protect the dumbest government pork revenue streams right up until they become untenable, then tell the truth. Soviet Communism was almost this efficient.
 
2014-01-20 01:51:08 AM
Medical marijuana helps my Nana manage her glaucoma and the pain issues from her arthritis. She doesn't so much get stoned as become deeply interested in the goings-on of lolcats for about an hour a day, which is a hell of a lot better than the drugs that were wrecking her liver and stealing her sight. She can read her favorite murder mysteries again, she's baking like she used to (actually, a lot more than before, but, well, pot...) and she should be able to play with her great-grandchild when kid arrives next June.

As she put it herself, "I think That Man in the White House* is right about cannabis. Scotch never cured anything but sexual inhibitions and boredom from those damn Westerns your grandfather used to watch, but I have to hand it to your socialist hippie friends on this one."

And then she posted like twelve lolcats to my Facebook.

If the President has managed to impress Nana, it's more than I ever believed he could.

(*Amusingly, she called FDR the same thing.)
 
2014-01-20 01:55:42 AM

m00: Noam Chimpsky: Marijuana is worse for your brain than crack and heroin.

Nope.

Crack literally causes areas of brain death by destroying the blood vessels of the brain -- it's like giving yourself a bunch of mini strokes.
Heroin destroys your brain's dopmaine balance, probably permanently -- but it doesn't make you dumb... it just makes you chemically imbalanced. Marijuana causes some subtle effects in memory formation.

So it's not worse. Alcohol is worse for your brain long-term than marijuana.


Don't even try that bullshiat. Every great author, composer, inventor, painter, philosopher and anyone else worth a damn liked to drink some adult beverages..Those who had some accomplishments and smoked pot lost the ability to create anything worthwhile after 10 years or so of smoking it, or their brains went cancerous like Bob Marley.
 
m00
2014-01-20 01:58:56 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Don't even try that bullshiat. Every great author, composer, inventor, painter, philosopher and anyone else worth a damn liked to drink some adult beverages..Those who had some accomplishments and smoked pot lost the ability to create anything worthwhile after 10 years or so of smoking it, or their brains went cancerous like Bob Marley.


This is one of the dumber things I've read on Fark.
 
2014-01-20 01:59:01 AM

jake3988: TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).
=============================================

Um, you're forgetting Big Pharma. In fact, that's the ONLY thing that really cares is Big Pharma.

Pot is GLORIOUS at keeping your nausea and pain at bay for a cancer paitent. Plus, munchies!


Don't forget big tobacco. They are pissed as hell that theydidn't get complete control of pot before it becomes legal.
 
2014-01-20 02:04:39 AM

m00: Noam Chimpsky: Don't even try that bullshiat. Every great author, composer, inventor, painter, philosopher and anyone else worth a damn liked to drink some adult beverages..Those who had some accomplishments and smoked pot lost the ability to create anything worthwhile after 10 years or so of smoking it, or their brains went cancerous like Bob Marley.

This is one of the dumber things I've read on Fark.


Okay, I'll name a drinker who had great accomplishments and you name a pot head and we'll see who runs out of names first.

Albert Einstein. He liked some wine and cognac.

Your turn. As a bonus, try to name some non-musicians who didn't choke on their vomit in their twenties.
 
2014-01-20 02:06:50 AM

redheededstepchild: jake3988: TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).
=============================================

Um, you're forgetting Big Pharma. In fact, that's the ONLY thing that really cares is Big Pharma.

Pot is GLORIOUS at keeping your nausea and pain at bay for a cancer paitent. Plus, munchies!

Don't forget big tobacco. They are pissed as hell that theydidn't get complete control of pot before it becomes legal.



You seriously don't think they've got machines calibrated to start rolling out Marlboro Greens within 15 seconds of legalization going federal?

When weed becomes legal across the board, it won't stay a mom and pop operation.

Sorry to disappoint all you craft joint enthusiasts, but it's the truth.
 
2014-01-20 02:09:59 AM

m00: Noam Chimpsky: Don't even try that bullshiat. Every great author, composer, inventor, painter, philosopher and anyone else worth a damn liked to drink some adult beverages..Those who had some accomplishments and smoked pot lost the ability to create anything worthwhile after 10 years or so of smoking it, or their brains went cancerous like Bob Marley.

This is one of the dumber things I've read on Fark.


I have him labeled with "They are Obama's Arab Spring army from the illegal war he conducted and they control Libya." from a past thread. he's capable for saying much dumber things.
 
2014-01-20 02:27:13 AM
Mr. Obama said. "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, 'Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka.' Are we open to that? If somebody says, 'We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth.' Are we OK with that?"



No farkin' way that shiat is going to happen. Meth and coke will remain illegal. They are dangerous drugs, made in a laboratory. The human body cannot handle them in moderate or large doses.

Disappointing that Obama does have a rather socially conservative attitude towards the social benefits of cannabis, but he makes up for it by more or less stating the War on Drugs is bullshiat.
 
2014-01-20 02:40:01 AM

Lsherm: both are also highly addictive


Yep.
 
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