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(Washington Times)   "Pot is not very different from cigarettes, is no more dangerous than booze." Well that's, like, just your opinion, Mr. President   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 202
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2014-01-19 04:24:42 PM  
And water is wet.
 
2014-01-19 04:30:38 PM  
Too bad he's not in charge of the DEA.
 
2014-01-19 04:52:19 PM  
Too bad he can't change how cannabis is scheduled.
 
2014-01-19 04:53:57 PM  
I would love to smoke a fattie with the president. The snacks in the White House kitchen are likely awesome.
 
2014-01-19 04:59:01 PM  
Since this is the Moonie Times, I"m sure they're horrified by that statement.

And their readers are so mortified they'll need to go have one of the "nerve pills" they begged their doctor to give them.
 
2014-01-19 05:47:43 PM  
 
2014-01-19 05:49:53 PM  
"If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.
 
2014-01-19 05:58:11 PM  

fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.


Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.
 
2014-01-19 06:07:52 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.


Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.
 
2014-01-19 06:10:20 PM  
I want to get wasted with Obama.
 
2014-01-19 06:22:17 PM  
Far less dangerous than booze, actually.
 
2014-01-19 06:22:35 PM  
No more dangerous than booze? I'd say less but the point is still valid.

fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.


I'm certainly more impressed with his thoughtfulness on this topic now than I was when he was trying to laugh the topic off earlier in his presidency.
 
2014-01-19 06:23:09 PM  

Lsherm: Well, both are also highly addictive.


Like nicotine?

/f8cking scare tactics
 
2014-01-19 06:25:15 PM  

phillydrifter: Lsherm: Well, both are also highly addictive.

Like nicotine?

/f8cking scare tactics


And caffeine.
 
2014-01-19 06:25:49 PM  
By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).
 
2014-01-19 06:26:03 PM  
(He dodges the question by jumping from "if we legalize weed, will coke, meth be next?") Well lets see, alcohol is legal and kills thousands annually. Tobacco is legal and kills thousands annually.

/weed for president
//you know why -- a la Cruz "pot still schedule 1, Obama says "don't worry about it" -- Biden is going to run down every one of those legal pot shops come Jan 21 2017
 
2014-01-19 06:26:08 PM  
I'm scared and nothing 0bummer can say will stop me from being scared.

So vote republican
 
2014-01-19 06:27:41 PM  
I'm curious what to expect since he's indicated that it is "important" to let the marijuana legalization efforts move forward in CO and WA.
 
2014-01-19 06:30:31 PM  

TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).


Don't forget big alcohol...
 
2014-01-19 06:30:34 PM  
"I also think that, when it comes to harder drugs, the harm done to the user is profound and the social costs are profound."

So are the costs of putting people in prison and giving them a criminal record where they can no longer get work where they are capable of supporting themselves. Not to mention there's the whole thing about living in a free society.

Also, does this endorsement mean Obama is going to move on getting marijuana off the schedule 1 list? Because that needs to happen.
 
2014-01-19 06:31:02 PM  
More like this, Mr. President...
 
2014-01-19 06:31:36 PM  
Yeah, good plan, lets use booze and cigarettes as the gold standard.
If it's no worse than them, go for it!
 
2014-01-19 06:32:17 PM  

Disappearing Hitchhiker: TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).

Don't forget big alcohol...


And big pharma.
 
2014-01-19 06:32:40 PM  
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2014-01-19 06:32:48 PM  

Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.


So is nicotine
 
2014-01-19 06:32:55 PM  
There was never a good argument for the drug war - against any drugs - to begin with, it's all grounded in racism and farked up corporate protectionism.
 
2014-01-19 06:34:19 PM  
"If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Yes.
 
2014-01-19 06:34:56 PM  
Crush the NSA, end the drug war, repeal the Hughes amendment, nationwide ccw reciprocity, reinstate net neutrality. First baby steps to freedom.
 
2014-01-19 06:35:03 PM  

Descartes: Yeah, good plan, lets use booze and cigarettes as the gold standard.
If it's no worse than them, go for it!


Ok how about this- Pot is better for you than sugar, transfats, and caffeine.
 
2014-01-19 06:36:22 PM  
Cigarettes lead to around 400,000 deaths a year in America alone, Alcohol leads to about 90,000 deaths a year in America alone, and is a factor in a lot of violent assaults, domestic violence and drug assisted rapes.

Putting Pot on par with either drug is a gross misrepresentation of the relative dangers of Pot use.
 
2014-01-19 06:36:51 PM  

Disappearing Hitchhiker: TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).

Don't forget big alcohol...


If I were the CEO of nabisco I'd be lobbying the hell for pot legalization
 
2014-01-19 06:38:06 PM  

TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).


the for-profit private prison industry
 
2014-01-19 06:41:07 PM  

Target Builder: Cigarettes lead to around 400,000 deaths a year in America alone, Alcohol leads to about 90,000 deaths a year in America alone, and is a factor in a lot of violent assaults, domestic violence and drug assisted rapes.

Putting Pot on par with either drug is a gross misrepresentation of the relative dangers of Pot use.


This. It's actually far more benign.
 
2014-01-19 06:42:09 PM  

phillydrifter: Lsherm: Well, both are also highly addictive.

Like nicotine?

/f8cking scare tactics


Zeppelininthesky: Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.

So is nicotine


Yeah, good for you people, nicotine is addictive.  Thank you for pointing that out.  Nicotine is the perfect example of why we should legalize cocaine and meth.

In case you haven't noticed, we've spent the last 50 years trying to get people to stop using nicotine.
 
2014-01-19 06:43:07 PM  

phillydrifter: (He dodges the question by jumping from "if we legalize weed, will coke, meth be next?") Well lets see, alcohol is legal and kills thousands annually. Tobacco is legal and kills thousands annually.

/weed for president
//you know why -- a la Cruz "pot still schedule 1, Obama says "don't worry about it" -- Biden is going to run down every one of those legal pot shops come Jan 21 2017


Are you having a stroke?  There was nothing remotely coherent about that post.
 
2014-01-19 06:43:30 PM  

Doom MD: Disappearing Hitchhiker: TV's Vinnie: By now, the only ones who want to keep pot illegal are DEA Agents (reduced funding if pot becomes legal), televangelists (because they hate everything fun), and pot cartels (the obvious).

Don't forget big alcohol...

If I were the CEO of nabisco I'd be lobbying the hell for pot legalization


You should google the history of Phillip Morris, Nabisco, and Kraft.
 
2014-01-19 06:43:53 PM  

Descartes: Yeah, good plan, lets use booze and cigarettes as the gold standard.
If it's no worse than them, go for it!


Considering it is widely accepted that alcohol and cigarettes are not dangerous enough to warranted being banned, I would say it is a pretty relevant standard. Especially when there is a significant overlap between people that are against legalizing marijuana and those opposed to any restrictions on smoking in public places.
 
2014-01-19 06:44:53 PM  

Target Builder: and is a factor in a lot of violent assaults, domestic violence and drug assisted rapes.


I read that quickly, and thought you said "dog-assisted rapes".
 
2014-01-19 06:48:11 PM  

Lsherm: phillydrifter: Lsherm: Well, both are also highly addictive.

Like nicotine?

/f8cking scare tactics

Zeppelininthesky: Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.

So is nicotine

Yeah, good for you people, nicotine is addictive.  Thank you for pointing that out.  Nicotine is the perfect example of why we should legalize cocaine and meth.

In case you haven't noticed, we've spent the last 50 years trying to get people to stop using nicotine.


Legalize marijuana, decriminalize the rest, use the money saved on incarcerating people to fund treatment programs. You know, pretty much what Portugal did except for making weed legal.
 
2014-01-19 06:48:38 PM  

simplicimus: Too bad he's not in charge of the DEA.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-19 06:50:18 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: I would love to smoke a fattie with the president. The snacks in the White House kitchen are likely awesome.


You want to be Willie Nelson when you grow up?
 
2014-01-19 06:52:47 PM  
I'm fine with it being legal to eat, smoking not so much. That shiat smells terrible.
 
2014-01-19 06:54:50 PM  
Obviously, you're not a president, subby.

This will not stand, man.
 
2014-01-19 06:56:14 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: I would love to smoke a fattie with the president.


Obama bogarts

/based on that and other things I've read, I don't think I would have enjoyed toking with the POTUS in his youth. My crowd was much mellower when it came to smoking.
 
2014-01-19 06:59:25 PM  
And yet we still can't place a wager on Farret Legging.
 
2014-01-19 07:00:33 PM  

Lsherm: phillydrifter: Lsherm: Well, both are also highly addictive.

Like nicotine?

/f8cking scare tactics

Zeppelininthesky: Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.

So is nicotine

Yeah, good for you people, nicotine is addictive.  Thank you for pointing that out.  Nicotine is the perfect example of why we should legalize cocaine and meth.

In case you haven't noticed, we've spent the last 50 years trying to get people to stop using nicotine.


The attempt to stop people from using nicotine is not based in racism, greed, or corporate protectionism.
 
2014-01-19 07:01:41 PM  
The amount of cocaine or meth that isn't going to harm you more than drinking your fill of vodka isn't going to do shiat to get you high. It would probably feel like the equivalent of drinking a small coffee, if anything.
 
2014-01-19 07:09:11 PM  

Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.


Also, meth and cocaine are schedule II, and are available with a prescription.
 
2014-01-19 07:12:12 PM  
Legalize everything! Let Darwin sort it out! However, it may be a bit socialist if we have to pay taxes for incenerating the bodies of those who died of whatever. Ok. Screw that. Ban everything!!
 
2014-01-19 07:13:12 PM  

Lsherm: Eddie Adams from Torrance: fusillade762: "If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"

Wow. Thoughtfulness and nuance from a politician.

Legalizing even the smallest amounts of cocaine or meth would be completely irresponsible.... since neither of those is still under patent protection.

Well, both are also highly addictive.  Pot isn't.


Neither is LSD.
 
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