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(UPI)   Egyptian election officials confirm voters approved of the new Constitution. 98% of them approved, in fact, a statistic that in no way should be seen as even remotely artificially inflated, no not at all, you can trust us   (upi.com) divider line 7
    More: Unlikely, Elections in Egypt, Egyptian, Supreme Electoral Committee, Tahrir Square, voters, constitutions, officials, participatory democracy  
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2014-01-19 11:49:26 AM  
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WorldCitizen: What percentage of Americans voted on the US Constitution?  Yeah.

Constitution writing seems to be a tricky thing. You want your best, brightest, and most rights supporting people writing them. But how do you get those people? Popular vote? Then you end up with politicians who are probably none of the above. So say you go by appointed figures who are to be the best, brightest, and most rights supporting. Oh, but wait, who is it that appoints them? And then once it's written, do you have a popular vote to approve it? If yes, though, doesn't that smack of having a majority vote on what rights people do and don't have...which can lead to a majority vote on the rights of minorities.

It's a messy business.


It is, and this Constitution is substantively better than the last one- largely because popular opinion was kind of shoved aside. The first one elected a representative constitutional assembly, which meant the islamists got what they wanted. This one was just a put everybody in a room, and don't allow any faction other than the military to dominate on their issues. As a result, they got a more balanced document with more protections built in. The military is guaranteed a very strong role and given some distasteful powers, but they phase themselves out over time.

And yes, I believe the vote. The opposition boycotted the vote to make it look illegitimate. But the Constitution will still take effect, and elections will be held under its provisions. Governments of the world will recognize that government formed then, and eventually the opposition will be forced to accept it as fait accompli and participate in the process if they want any say at all.
2014-01-19 09:05:27 AM  
3 votes:
When the opposition boycotts, it's easy to get near 100%. I doubt the opposition will accept the results either.
2014-01-19 11:34:13 AM  
2 votes:
What percentage of Americans voted on the US Constitution?  Yeah.

Constitution writing seems to be a tricky thing. You want your best, brightest, and most rights supporting people writing them. But how do you get those people? Popular vote? Then you end up with politicians who are probably none of the above. So say you go by appointed figures who are to be the best, brightest, and most rights supporting. Oh, but wait, who is it that appoints them? And then once it's written, do you have a popular vote to approve it? If yes, though, doesn't that smack of having a majority vote on what rights people do and don't have...which can lead to a majority vote on the rights of minorities.

It's a messy business.
2014-01-19 05:57:25 PM  
1 votes:

Infernalist: Should it be pointed out that the Constitution was a minor complaint and was being addressed by the judiciary, but that Morsi's unilateral changing of that Constitution is what provoked the crisis?


Why bother with the facts ? It was a conspiracy! created by Israel! yeah that's it.
2014-01-19 12:25:08 PM  
1 votes:

Doktor_Zhivago: Only 35% of the electorate turned out. THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE


That's what makes me a little bit suspicious. It's not unusual for a "People's Democracy" to have 98% support for the Government with a 98% turnout, but it is completely unheard of for any other kind of regime to have 98% support with a low turnout unless the Opposition completely boycotts the Election.

It looks like the military held an Election and nobody but the military came.
2014-01-19 11:13:08 AM  
1 votes:
98% is probably correct and non-fraudulent. The people opposed to the Constitution boycotted the vote, which was woefully unproductive considering they likely would have defeated it.
2014-01-19 10:30:58 AM  
1 votes:
I'll tip my hat...

/fooled
 
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