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(The Atlantic)   Apparently, the best model for childhood education was developed in 19th century Germany. You know what else was developed in 19th century Germany?   (theatlantic.com) divider line 115
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2014-01-19 03:35:59 PM  

GentDirkly: In Germany (and some of Germany's neighbors) they have separate high schools and middle schools for the "college bound" students and for the "vocation bound" students. Voc school's classroom time ends at age 16 while college bound ends at age 18. We have some of that here. What we don't have, that they do have, is a willingness to sort out which child goes to which type of school at age 9. Yes, children of Turkish or African immigrants are more likely to be sorted to the lower track. But few in Germany care about this. They see school as a rough meritocracy and not as a place where we try to alleviate other social problems.


Bollocks. That isn't decided at age 9, it is decided at age 12. Furthermore, it's based on objective tests and, for those that need a little extra time, you can 'trade up' if you're a late bloomer.
 
2014-01-19 04:03:28 PM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Gecko Gingrich: Cocaine and TNT.

Now that is a band name if I ever heard one.  Stealing it when I learn to play piano and stuff.


A band with that name should have no need for a piano.
 
2014-01-19 04:40:26 PM  
Pointy helmets?

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2014-01-19 05:35:45 PM  
inner city schools are crap because they are designed to be crap.

To quote Judge Smails, "The world needs ditch diggers, too."

Inner city schools were designed to warehouse kids, give them minimal amounts of busy work, train their behavior, then send them out the door to be good little maids, ditch diggers, and garbage men.

In the 70's, my junior high school had students from the rich part of town, us middle class kids, and the black and Mexican kids from the slums of Sugar Land, TX. The first thing they did was separate the kids by socio- economic status- the rich kids were all put in advanced classes whether they deserved to be there or now, the middle class kids were all put into second tier classes (unless they tested out and were put in advanced classes), and the minorities were warehoused with the dumb middle class kids.
The rich kids were taught how to be the leaders of tomorrow, the middle class kids were taught how to be good consumers, and the poor kids never had a chance.
 
2014-01-19 06:31:08 PM  

Tumbleweed_TX: inner city schools are crap because they are designed to be crap.

To quote Judge Smails, "The world needs ditch diggers, too."

Inner city schools were designed to warehouse kids, give them minimal amounts of busy work, train their behavior, then send them out the door to be good little maids, ditch diggers, and garbage men.

In the 70's, my junior high school had students from the rich part of town, us middle class kids, and the black and Mexican kids from the slums of Sugar Land, TX. The first thing they did was separate the kids by socio- economic status- the rich kids were all put in advanced classes whether they deserved to be there or now, the middle class kids were all put into second tier classes (unless they tested out and were put in advanced classes), and the minorities were warehoused with the dumb middle class kids.
The rich kids were taught how to be the leaders of tomorrow, the middle class kids were taught how to be good consumers, and the poor kids never had a chance.


Very disturbing to realize our world has some genius ditch diggers and dim witted doctors, isn't it?  Crazy how some folks can pick a high paying profession with the same trouble as buying a house.  The more money you have available, the higher paying career is waiting for you.  Don't worry about actually having talent or skills, just test well.
 
2014-01-19 07:27:51 PM  

jgbrowning: FTFA: "Why would we only have one school?"

Because when you force the wealthiest put their children right next to the all the plebs, you're going to get better education for the plebs than if you didn't. I don't care that this will reduce the quality of education of the wealthiest, they're going to do fine based upon their "merit" of winning the ability to inherit large amounts of wealth.


This is why I like living around some really rich people, y taxes are high but the schools are the best.  Ever notice no rich neighborhoods are pushing for charter schools, it's because our public schools are already good.  It amazes me that poor people don't realize this and actually fight for an equal school system instead of being tricked by politicians with charters.
 
2014-01-19 07:29:31 PM  
Uh, yeah. Where do you think we got the word "kindergarten" from? Who *didn't* know that? Jesus, the public "education" system is a farking joke.
 
2014-01-19 07:51:28 PM  

KeelingLovesCornholes: Anything you can do to break up the k-12 unions and the tenured class will be a huge step in the right direction.


If the motivation of breaking up the unions was to hold teachers accountable and improve education, I'd be all for it.  The problem is the goal seems to be to create another group of under paid workers and to hurt democrats.
 
2014-01-19 08:34:57 PM  

rjakobi: Ha! Joke's on you, Subby. Hitler was born in Australia.


upload.wikimedia.org         "Guten Tag, mate!"
 
2014-01-19 08:53:17 PM  
simania.co.il
 
2014-01-19 09:26:32 PM  

Tumbleweed_TX: Inner city schools were designed to warehouse kids, give them minimal amounts of busy work, train their behavior, then send them out the door to be good little maids, ditch diggers, and garbage men.


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Today they are warehoused until they are 18, and then turned out to be fodder for the criminal justice system.
 
2014-01-19 09:50:38 PM  

95BV5: wildcardjack: The crumbly topping on Strussel?

Streusel *is* the topping, dumbass.


Well that escalated quickly
 
2014-01-19 10:51:13 PM  
Marlene Dietrich?
 
2014-01-20 12:56:50 AM  
Well, I guess that would be GERMANY, subby. It didn't exist as a nation until 1871.
 
2014-01-20 01:52:09 AM  
The Schlieffen Plan, which worked so well in WWI.
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