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2014-01-19 07:56:55 AM
Third world dung heap.  Farkem.....
 
2014-01-19 07:56:56 AM

bindlestiff2600: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

just sayin
reactionary religion is often the response to the country becoming poor


So is paying the lottery.

And the odds on the powerball are better than religion fixing the country.
 
2014-01-19 08:00:08 AM

Bslim: Now it's a religious paradise. Hopefully that enlightment will come to America.


Don't worry. We're working on it.
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2014-01-19 08:01:13 AM

bigworld2000: Throughout 1978 and 1979, the communists in charge of Afghanistan tried to extend the idea of women's rights out into the countryside and set up literacy schools for rural Afghan women. This is what really freaked out the Mujahadeen and the mullahs, who attacked the schools and killed many of the students and teachers.  That's when the government in Kabul called in the Soviets, who sent in their military to quell the fundamentalists at the end of December 1979.


So, typical Soviet occupation?
 
2014-01-19 08:02:48 AM

gnosis301: I want to hear more from the guy who said killing them is the only answer, then said maybe we wouldn't have to kill them.


And then of course, there is the problem of clearly and unambiguously defining "them".
Who exactly are "they", anyway?
 
2014-01-19 08:04:39 AM

subsetzero: Third world dung heap.  Farkem.....


How 'bout we just stand off at a safe distance and watch 'em fark each orther?
 
2014-01-19 08:06:27 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Here in America those who'd happily run the country Taliban-style just start their own universities
http://www.bju.edu/life-faith/student-handbook.pdf


Thanks for posting this. "BJ"U is not nearly as fun as it sounds.

/They produce homeschool curriculum for k through 12 too.
//Actively against scientific theory
///They don't like Catholics if I remember right. (nothing better than factionalized Christianity)

Had a couple of years exposure to the home school shiat. Farked up.
 
2014-01-19 08:07:06 AM

jso2897: subsetzero: Third world dung heap.  Farkem.....

How 'bout we just stand off at a safe distance and watch 'em fark each orther?


Wouldn't that distract from watching American Gladiators?
 
2014-01-19 08:16:57 AM
A lot of self-loathing in this thread. Perhaps you should travel to the Middle East and walk around appologizing. Don't call the embassy when you make your spiritual connection with your fellow peace loving friends.
 
2014-01-19 08:26:16 AM

Princess Ryans Knickers: Are we sure? Sure sounds like the American South.


Well, bless your heart.
 
2014-01-19 08:32:15 AM

jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?



Perhaps it is worth considering why this atheist author at richarddawkins.net argues that only Christianity can save Africa.
 
2014-01-19 08:32:58 AM
There is no place for religious fundamentalism in the 21rst century.  I usually say no place for religion but that Pope Francis guy seems to be the genuine article which is a welcome change, maybe just maybe if there was more of him and less Westboro Baptist church-like things roaming around things would be better.
 
2014-01-19 08:33:29 AM

OscarTamerz: The fact of the matter is that the democratization of power is what led to the widespread takeover of conservative islam in Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. The revolutions that over threw the Shah, the Soviets and Saddam were what allowed the conservatives to come to power. Look what happened to Egypt. They elected that whacko Morsi and he appointed the guy responsible for machine gunning scores of Swiss tourists to be his minister of tourism. The military saw how that would play in the west and kicked his ass out.

Paul Theroux's The Great Railway Bazaar was published in 1977 just before everything went to shiat and it was about his train trip from London to Calcutta crossing through Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Still a great read and an object lesson in democracy. Nobody ever remembers Hitler was democratically elected.


Uh, wtf are you on about? Iran had a democratic government until the US engineered the ascent of the Shah. Iraq never had a revolution at all. The US invaded, raped the country and culture and left a power vacuum. Afghanistan had a democratic government until the Soviets engineered a Communist government. Which in turn catalyzed their revolution. None of your three examples even remotely support your position.
 
2014-01-19 08:35:43 AM

weltallica: NOW LOOK AT AMERICA, and tell yourselves right-wing conservative religious zealots could never do that here.


Meh, right wing zealots tend to be old, hoverround riding farts. A real right wing uprising would probably take the Country Kitchen Buffet before being blown to hell by the Air Force.
/Still, it wouldn't hurt to own a gun and know how to use it.
//As well as supplies, a radio, and an evacuation route.
///Just in case.
 
2014-01-19 08:36:15 AM
Those harlots!  Farking their minds with liberal ideas and independent thought,  they must be struck down!
 
2014-01-19 08:41:26 AM

T-Boy: A lot of self-loathing in this thread. Perhaps you should travel to the Middle East and walk around appologizing. Don't call the embassy when you make your spiritual connection with your fellow peace loving friends.


You sound like the kind of guy who breaks something at a party and then leaves after justifying it as the hosts fault.

/you know
//a dick
 
2014-01-19 08:45:08 AM

Prophet of Loss: Progressive Afghanistan was never a majority which is made of warring fanatical tribes. Sure they saw some progress in major cities, but the majority of the population was never on board.


The smart people always live in the cities, wherever you are.
 
2014-01-19 08:46:13 AM

T-Boy: A lot of self-loathing in this thread. Perhaps you should travel to the Middle East and walk around appologizing. Don't call the embassy when you make your spiritual connection with your fellow peace loving friends.


And you can volunteer to go over and kill all the bad guys,

But then, you don't sound like someone with courage.
 
2014-01-19 08:48:30 AM

GilRuiz1: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?


Perhaps it is worth considering why this atheist author at richarddawkins.net argues that only Christianity can save Africa.


It appears that he thinks rural Africans are idiots who need a fairy tale to make them start pulling their bootstraps.

I would think stability, rule of law and economic freedom might be more useful to them. It would also probably result in less women being burned as witches.
 
2014-01-19 08:50:25 AM

ghare: Prophet of Loss: Progressive Afghanistan was never a majority which is made of warring fanatical tribes. Sure they saw some progress in major cities, but the majority of the population was never on board.

The smart people always live in the cities, wherever you are.


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2014-01-19 08:53:29 AM

BMFPitt: ghare: Prophet of Loss: Progressive Afghanistan was never a majority which is made of warring fanatical tribes. Sure they saw some progress in major cities, but the majority of the population was never on board.

The smart people always live in the cities, wherever you are.

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You know who else lived in the city?
 
2014-01-19 08:53:34 AM

jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?


I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?
 
2014-01-19 08:55:43 AM

Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?


Yeah cause it was all about the atheism.
 
2014-01-19 08:57:30 AM

bindlestiff2600: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

just sayin
reactionary religion is often the response to the country becoming poor


So, you are saying the progressive policies of "take from those who work and give to those who don't" are leading us to this?
 
2014-01-19 09:10:20 AM

Bslim: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

Yeah cause it was all about the atheism.


Of cause it wasn't
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2014-01-19 09:11:58 AM

jso2897: subsetzero: Third world dung heap.  Farkem.....

How 'bout we just stand off at a safe distance and watch 'em fark each orther?


We did that in Afghanistan, and we got 9/11.

On the other hand, we did that with the Iran-Iraq War (OK, we helped Saddam a little), and that worked nicely for us. Let 'em beat each other up. Even after they stopped fighting, they had a cold war going on that helped keep Iran in check.

Until some idiot got rid of Saddam.
 
2014-01-19 09:18:34 AM

quatchi: optikeye: Thanks Regan!

[i293.photobucket.com image 456x372]

You are very welcome!

/Devil made me do it.


Carter was the one who started the policy of arming religious nuts in Afghanistan, Reagan just continued it.
 
2014-01-19 09:19:23 AM
Funny thing, it's actually the religion of progressivism that Hillary, and her fellow travelers follow that will keep these women under the thumb and cover of the hajib.  Also under the mullahs too.

We will be lectured that this another multicultural event, that the old white,guys will have to learn to live with.

Drag out the Berkeley educated muslim woman with  on MSNBC for glowing commentary on the liberation of submission..
 Sort of the same thing as the millionaire communists living in NYC. Were the go to decoys,rather than interviewing some peasants living under the enlightened rule of the Party.

The threat is not from the tea party, wanting their property taxes lowered or some parents spending quality time teaching their own kids at home.

 ( Otherwise, if the indoctrination is the problem ! Time to close down those Jewish summer camps and other "specialised schools.)  Is Holder looking into the local after school programs at the Mosque ?

Nope! It the self loathing mindset and blind trust in our "historical candidates" that puts all in danger.

PS. I didn't vote for McCain ,and couldn't stand Bush. I would actively work against any Bush or Clinton running for office.
 
2014-01-19 09:20:13 AM

EmmaLou: While on vacation, I watched a story on AlJazeera about two Afghan women who had been attacked by their husbands. One had her lips and nose cut and was severely beaten, the other was killed and chopped into pieces. The police and everyone knew who committed the crimes, but both husbands are still free. They will likely never face punishment.

WTF? I don't even know what to say about how sick and wrong that is.


That is Farked up, however so is watchin aj aka terrorist.tv.
 
2014-01-19 09:22:59 AM

EmmaLou: While on vacation, I watched a story on AlJazeera about two Afghan women who had been attacked by their husbands. One had her lips and nose cut and was severely beaten, the other was killed and chopped into pieces. The police and everyone knew who committed the crimes, but both husbands are still free. They will likely never face punishment.

WTF? I don't even know what to say about how sick and wrong that is.


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2014-01-19 09:25:40 AM

ghare: Prophet of Loss: Progressive Afghanistan was never a majority which is made of warring fanatical tribes. Sure they saw some progress in major cities, but the majority of the population was never on board.

The smart people always live in the cities, wherever you are.


Most of them do.
So do most of the left-handed people, and most of the tall people, as well as a vast majority of the redheads.
What's your point?

LewDux: Bslim: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

Yeah cause it was all about the atheism.

Of cause it wasn't
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So, you are saying that if, over time, Americans were to abandon religion, we would end up living like the Soviets in the thirties? Merely by virtue of having abandoned religion? Interesting theory - I'd be fascinated to hear you attempt to support it.
But I'll bet I won't.
 
2014-01-19 09:30:20 AM

Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?


God damn that's some fine, concentrated stupid right there. And I'll bet you thought you were making a valid point, don't you?
 
2014-01-19 09:30:24 AM

FarkQued: That is Farked up, however so is watchin aj aka terrorist.tv.


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2014-01-19 09:37:58 AM

FarkQued: EmmaLou: While on vacation, I watched a story on AlJazeera about two Afghan women who had been attacked by their husbands. One had her lips and nose cut and was severely beaten, the other was killed and chopped into pieces. The police and everyone knew who committed the crimes, but both husbands are still free. They will likely never face punishment.

WTF? I don't even know what to say about how sick and wrong that is.

That is Farked up, however so is watchin aj aka terrorist.tv.


AlJazeera, from what I've seen, is less biased that most American "journalism". It's more like watching an Arabian BBC than an Arabian FOX News.

/of course, you probably think the BBC is part of an evil liberal media conspiracy so I guess I'm not helping
 
2014-01-19 09:40:32 AM

jso2897: So, you are saying that if, over time, Americans were to abandon religion, we would end up living like the Soviets in the thirties? Merely by virtue of having abandoned religion? Interesting theory - I'd be fascinated to hear you attempt to support it.
But I'll bet I won't.


I'm saying that Soviet Atheism was built on good old religious (excuse my French) memes. Trinity, Third Rome, etc
 
2014-01-19 09:41:17 AM

LewDux: Bungles: Iraq had world-leading liberal arts universities.... you know, until the US blew them up.

In Iraq under Saddam women could vote in elections


Of course since the Baath party was the only one allowed, voting did't mean much.
 
2014-01-19 09:42:03 AM

Mentalpatient87: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

God damn that's some fine, concentrated stupid right there. And I'll bet you thought you were making a valid point, don't you?


Name one time when atheism has been made the official policy of a government, and the outcome has NOT been mass slaughter.
 
2014-01-19 09:42:44 AM

Mentalpatient87: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

God damn that's some fine, concentrated stupid right there. And I'll bet you thought you were making a valid point, don't you?


Be nice, and don't scare him off - I'm trying to explore that issue with him.
I always am interested in what people who believe that communism is somehow and intrinsically "atheist" philosophy construct in their minds to substantiate it.
After all, communism is a definitively concrete philosophy that hangs on a very firm (if utterly and evilly wrong) set of tenets.
Those tenets are equally valid or invalid utterly notwithstanding the existence or nonexistence of God.
Indeed, there have been many devoutly religious socialists and communists in the history of that thankfully failed movement.
Indeed, Ayn Rand's analysis of why religion and statism are utterly compatable stands today as one of the few coherent and defensible ideas hatched from her peculiar mind. Essentially, they are compatible because they both dismiss Man as chattel - the property of some Other.
There is no necessary philosophical incompatibilty  between communism and religion. If one is Stalin or Mao, and wishes to crush any other political or social power other than one's own, one can always invent one.
The only issue that is relevant to us is - what happens if Americans abandon faith? Does no faith = communism, as if they were somehow philosophically opposed, and if you take away the one, you get the other?
I don't think so.
 
2014-01-19 09:46:10 AM

leevis: quatchi: optikeye: Thanks Regan!

[i293.photobucket.com image 456x372]

You are very welcome!

/Devil made me do it.

Carter was the one who started the policy of arming religious nuts in Afghanistan, Reagan just continued it.


Jimmy "human rights" Carter also protected the murderous Shah of Iran, which is a major reason Iranians hate us.
 
2014-01-19 09:46:59 AM

LewDux: jso2897: So, you are saying that if, over time, Americans were to abandon religion, we would end up living like the Soviets in the thirties? Merely by virtue of having abandoned religion? Interesting theory - I'd be fascinated to hear you attempt to support it.
But I'll bet I won't.

I'm saying that Soviet Atheism was built on good old religious (excuse my French) memes. Trinity, Third Rome, etc


Yeah. Couldn't have had anything to do with Stalin being acutely paranoid and wanting to eleiminate anyone who had any power or influence he couldn't completely control.
Because communists are honest people, and always give their true reasons for doing things.
 
2014-01-19 09:48:21 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: LewDux: Bungles: Iraq had world-leading liberal arts universities.... you know, until the US blew them up.

In Iraq under Saddam women could vote in elections

Of course since the Baath party was the only one allowed, voting did't mean much.


"Lenin's widow, Krupskaya was telling a class of Soviet schoolchildren what a kind man Lenin had been. 
"One day ", she said, "he was standing outside his dacha shaving himself with a bowl of water and an open razor. A little boy came to watch him and asked him what he was doing. "I'm, shaving little boy", Lenin said"
 
2014-01-19 09:48:24 AM

Bslim: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

Yeah cause it was all about the atheism.


Funny, your use of the word "all". No, those regimes were not ALL about atheism, any more than (as has been pointed out in this thread) the situation in Afghanistan is ALL about Islam. But it takes a special kind of willful myopia combined with all-or-nothing simplemindedness to pretend that the existence of one factor means that we can ignore another factor when explaining a situation.
 
2014-01-19 09:49:58 AM
During the Soviet era, the armed forces wore dress uniform hats tghat were quite large. You can see the same style echoed in the North Korean military still, today.
I therefore conclude that big hats are an essential and indispensible feature of Communist philosophy, and that communism can't be communism without big hats.
 
2014-01-19 09:55:22 AM
So pictures of attractive women are proof of the presence and absence of a patriarchy.
 
2014-01-19 09:57:36 AM

jso2897: During the Soviet era, the armed forces wore dress uniform hats tghat were quite large. You can see the same style echoed in the North Korean military still, today.
I therefore conclude that big hats are an essential and indispensible feature of Communist philosophy, and that communism can't be communism without big hats.


Compare the number of people imprisoned and killed by those regimes for wearing small hats to the number imprisoned and killed for being religious, then get back to us with your theory.
 
2014-01-19 09:57:55 AM

Son of Thunder: Mentalpatient87: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

God damn that's some fine, concentrated stupid right there. And I'll bet you thought you were making a valid point, don't you?

Name one time when atheism has been made the official policy of a government, and the outcome has NOT been mass slaughter.


New governments generally do away with opposition or indigenous population one way or another.  Britain and Rome raped, slaughtered, and pillaged their way across continents.
 
2014-01-19 10:01:36 AM

lordjupiter: So pictures of attractive women are proof of the presence and absence of a patriarchy.


Wow.
 
2014-01-19 10:05:58 AM

Son of Thunder: Bslim: Lee451: jchic: When was the last time religion actually improved a country?

I think the Soviet Union is  excellent example of what atheism does to a country. Or China under Mao. Cambodia under Pol Pot?

Yeah cause it was all about the atheism.

Funny, your use of the word "all". No, those regimes were not ALL about atheism, any more than (as has been pointed out in this thread) the situation in Afghanistan is ALL about Islam. But it takes a special kind of willful myopia combined with all-or-nothing simplemindedness to pretend that the existence of one factor means that we can ignore another factor when explaining a situation.


Okay, why don't you explain it, chief.
 
2014-01-19 10:10:28 AM

bigworld2000: Throughout 1978 and 1979, the communists in charge of Afghanistan tried to extend the idea of women's rights out into the countryside and set up literacy schools for rural Afghan women. This is what really freaked out the Mujahadeen and the mullahs, who attacked the schools and killed many of the students and teachers.  That's when the government in Kabul called in the Soviets, who sent in their military to quell the fundamentalists at the end of December 1979.

"The Communists were trying to change the law of God. They wanted to destroy
Islamic traditions -- to rid Afghanistan of poverty and make everyone
equal. This is against the law of Islam -- God has decided who is rich
and who is poor. It can't be changed by Communists. It's beyond
imagination."
Sahar Gul, Mullah Laghman Province (CNN Cold War: Soldiers of God, 1998)


One of the Soviet rationales for the invasion was to enforce their widespread distribution of foodstuffs, such as flour, using ideas that superseded the cultural trade norms. There were parts of the northeastern provinces that would regularly have local famines because they didn't get regular rain and the Mullahs used food shortages as a means to maintain the warlord feudal state. They just wouldn't trade with their enemies, and allies that did, would be denounced or attacked.

It was common for one village to block streams and hoard the water, thereby robbing the folks downstream of a means to water their crops. It was also common to raid grain storage of neighboring Clans and swipe it. The feud was a major part of their culture and some had been maintained for centuries. They relied entirely on streams to water crops and their animals. When those streams dried up the common belief was that someone upstream was blocking it and hoarding it. It was probably true more often than not. Water warfare was common in rural Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The Mullahs couldn't deal with the fact that a well-fed population wasn't so obedient to them if they could not control the food supplies that did exist when things got bad, because everyone had to support them, which basically means the Mullahs were hoarding food. they always ate well, even as the folks in their local districts would often be short of food. This was pointed out to the local folks by the Soviets. This had the effect of reducing the motives for the feuds that the Mullahs had carefully maintained for millennia over water rights. The warrior culture was the dominant paradigm in the rural, tribal areas before the communists took over and promptly started robbing the richer folks in the cities.

It's a simple thing to piss off an entire culture, when you start forcing the rich folks to pay attention to the poor folks, especially the farmers that kept their bellies full.
 
2014-01-19 10:12:37 AM

jaylectricity: This could never happen in America.

www.neebo.com

 
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