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(Chicago Sun-Times)   For the first time in twenty years, Chicago schools will require children to have daily physical education that doesn't include running home to escape gang violence   (suntimes.com) divider line 53
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2014-01-18 04:51:44 PM  
All through elementary school (the 60's 70's era) our classroom teacher would take us outside for a 1/2 hour of Phys Ed.
 
2014-01-18 04:53:52 PM  
We (Alberta here) have mandatory gym class through Grade 8. I think it might have been only three days a week, but still.
 
2014-01-18 05:02:03 PM  

Huskadoodle: All through elementary school (the 60's 70's era) our classroom teacher would take us outside for a 1/2 hour of Phys Ed.


& 80s elementary
 
2014-01-18 05:03:10 PM  
So now they can run from the gang violence while trapped in a school yard. That's so much better.
 
2014-01-18 05:04:06 PM  
I had mandatory PE three times a week up until the day I graduated.
 
2014-01-18 05:04:49 PM  
Huh; I'd have figured that, legally speaking, letting children leave the safety of the school to go outside had went the way of the dodo sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's. What if one of them were to get struck by lightning or trampled by a herd of rhinoceroses?
 
2014-01-18 05:06:35 PM  

ArmednHammered: So now they can run from the gang violence while trapped in a school yard. That's so much better.


Ducking and covering now will give them practice for when they drop out of school at 14.

/ remember, billy, serpentine... serpentine
 
2014-01-18 05:06:43 PM  
But let's face it: the need to run from gang violence in Chicago is *why* PE training is being reinstituted.

/lower birthrates, they can't afford to lose as many kids as they used to. Lose Congressional seats that way, and we can't have that. The bought rich need job security too.
 
2014-01-18 05:07:33 PM  
Uh Subby? Not sure if you missed the memo, but Fox News has asked that everyone stop talking about Chicago gun violence after it was determined the per capital murder rate was below 40 other cities. The 2013 numbers are the lowest since 1965. If you keep bringing these numbers up it might lead you to the false conclusion that gun control works. So please subby, shut up.
 
2014-01-18 05:08:09 PM  
Back in my day, we had PE between our PE.
 
2014-01-18 05:08:44 PM  

iheartscotch: Huh; I'd have figured that, legally speaking, letting children leave the safety of the school to go outside had went the way of the dodo sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's. What if one of them were to get struck by lightning or trampled by a herd of rhinoceroses?


Rhinoceri.
 
2014-01-18 05:08:55 PM  

LarryDan43: Uh Subby? Not sure if you missed the memo, but Fox News has asked that everyone stop talking about Chicago gun violence after it was determined the per capital murder rate was below 40 other cities. The 2013 numbers are the lowest since 1965. If you keep bringing these numbers up it might lead you to the false conclusion that gun control works. So please subby, shut up.


Damn bro, you mad?
 
2014-01-18 05:10:54 PM  
PE was my favorite time of the (School) day.  Kickball was always a blast, and dodgeball in the gym (when it was raining outside) was another fun one. Volleyball, Softball, Tag.. Good times. Was sad when I hit 7th grade and the entire school day was academic from that point on (different school, no gym, no field).
 
2014-01-18 05:11:09 PM  
Ten bucks says the Axe Body Spray makers are behind this new policy.
 
2014-01-18 05:13:05 PM  
You joke but I have a friend with kids in the CPS and one of the big concerns when they closed a bunch of those public schools was gang turf stuff... something about a kid is walking on the wrong street trying to get to a school in a different neighborhood getting shot for being in the wrong place... Not that anyone in charge cares, of course. (I don't know if that's actually true or has happened but I don't live in the city so I'll have to take my friend's word for it.)

Also quite possibly not relevant.
 
2014-01-18 05:13:35 PM  

Zul the Magnificent: iheartscotch: Huh; I'd have figured that, legally speaking, letting children leave the safety of the school to go outside had went the way of the dodo sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's. What if one of them were to get struck by lightning or trampled by a herd of rhinoceroses?

Rhinoceri.


I was debating that very question myself. Is the plural for rhinoceros the same word, like sheep? Or is it Rhinoceri? Or is it Rhinoceroses? Or do we need to put some letter E's in there, like geese.

/ or should we just leave it at Rhino; the plural being Rhinos
 
2014-01-18 05:15:16 PM  
Oh good, a chance for the nerdy kids to be humiliated.
 
2014-01-18 05:19:24 PM  
Looks like the Safe Passage program isn't working out. Now they're going to teach the kids to run faster.
 
2014-01-18 05:25:10 PM  
...because it involves running to the principal's office to avoid gang violence?

DNRTFA, don't care.
 
2014-01-18 05:27:47 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: You joke but I have a friend with kids in the CPS and one of the big concerns when they closed a bunch of those public schools was gang turf stuff... something about a kid is walking on the wrong street trying to get to a school in a different neighborhood getting shot for being in the wrong place... Not that anyone in charge cares, of course. (I don't know if that's actually true or has happened but I don't live in the city so I'll have to take my friend's word for it.)

Also quite possibly not relevant.


Oh it's relevant, kids have prescribed routes that are patrolled while they are on their way to and from schools
 
2014-01-18 05:28:33 PM  

iheartscotch: Zul the Magnificent: iheartscotch: Huh; I'd have figured that, legally speaking, letting children leave the safety of the school to go outside had went the way of the dodo sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's. What if one of them were to get struck by lightning or trampled by a herd of rhinoceroses?

Rhinoceri.

I was debating that very question myself. Is the plural for rhinoceros the same word, like sheep? Or is it Rhinoceri? Or is it Rhinoceroses? Or do we need to put some letter E's in there, like geese.

/ or should we just leave it at Rhino; the plural being Rhinos


Rhinoces.
 
2014-01-18 05:29:12 PM  

chitownmike: Needlessly Complicated: You joke but I have a friend with kids in the CPS and one of the big concerns when they closed a bunch of those public schools was gang turf stuff... something about a kid is walking on the wrong street trying to get to a school in a different neighborhood getting shot for being in the wrong place... Not that anyone in charge cares, of course. (I don't know if that's actually true or has happened but I don't live in the city so I'll have to take my friend's word for it.)

Also quite possibly not relevant.

Oh it's relevant, kids have prescribed routes that are patrolled while they are on their way to and from schools


Yes; they've got top men working on it right now!
 
2014-01-18 05:33:55 PM  
I haven't kept up, but I thought PE was still mandatory. At least it was when I was a kid. I guess it went the way of summer recreation (something else from my childhood)?

Might wanna teach them tuck and roll too for when those drive by's pop up!!!
 
2014-01-18 05:34:04 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: You joke but I have a friend with kids in the CPS and one of the big concerns when they closed a bunch of those public schools was gang turf stuff... something about a kid is walking on the wrong street trying to get to a school in a different neighborhood getting shot for being in the wrong place... Not that anyone in charge cares, of course. (I don't know if that's actually true or has happened but I don't live in the city so I'll have to take my friend's word for it.)

Also quite possibly not relevant.


I think you have it backward, the reason there is an increase in gang violence in schools is because the school closings are now putting kids from neighboring... umm neighborhoods into the same school. The kids from the next neighborhood often have gang affiliations that aren't those of their new school.
 
2014-01-18 05:34:50 PM  

Bslim: iheartscotch: Zul the Magnificent: iheartscotch: Huh; I'd have figured that, legally speaking, letting children leave the safety of the school to go outside had went the way of the dodo sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's. What if one of them were to get struck by lightning or trampled by a herd of rhinoceroses?

Rhinoceri.

I was debating that very question myself. Is the plural for rhinoceros the same word, like sheep? Or is it Rhinoceri? Or is it Rhinoceroses? Or do we need to put some letter E's in there, like geese.

/ or should we just leave it at Rhino; the plural being Rhinos

Rhinoces.


Ok, I've got one for Rhinoceri and I've got one for Rhinoceros. Do I hear one for adding in some E's?

/ we're gonna need a shiat load of E's...
 
2014-01-18 05:37:03 PM  
Good .
 
2014-01-18 05:38:34 PM  

iheartscotch: chitownmike: Needlessly Complicated: You joke but I have a friend with kids in the CPS and one of the big concerns when they closed a bunch of those public schools was gang turf stuff... something about a kid is walking on the wrong street trying to get to a school in a different neighborhood getting shot for being in the wrong place... Not that anyone in charge cares, of course. (I don't know if that's actually true or has happened but I don't live in the city so I'll have to take my friend's word for it.)

Also quite possibly not relevant.

Oh it's relevant, kids have prescribed routes that are patrolled while they are on their way to and from schools

Yes; they've got top men working on it right now!


Top. Men.
 
2014-01-18 05:39:51 PM  
Probably an on-line course.
 
2014-01-18 05:42:30 PM  
I had Phys Ed up until my last year of High School, and I graduated in '03. We may have not went outside all the time, but we were in the gym Monday through Friday
 
2014-01-18 05:44:04 PM  
"I should have known it was a bad neighborhood when the advertisement for the apartment said it was just a quick run to the bus stop!"
 
2014-01-18 05:47:32 PM  

LarryDan43: Uh Subby? Not sure if you missed the memo, but Fox News has asked that everyone stop talking about Chicago gun violence after it was determined the per capital murder rate was below 40 other cities. The 2013 numbers are the lowest since 1965. If you keep bringing these numbers up it might lead you to the false conclusion that gun control works. So please subby, shut up.


Uh, LarryDan43?  Where in the headline is gun violence mentioned?  You do know there's a difference between gun violence and gang violence, right?

/ Not subby, but I certainly was a victim of non-gun related gang violence growing up in the city of Chicago
 
2014-01-18 06:04:32 PM  
Running home to escape gang violence is an extra-curricular activity.
 
2014-01-18 06:07:50 PM  

KeeptheChief: Needlessly Complicated: You joke but I have a friend with kids in the CPS and one of the big concerns when they closed a bunch of those public schools was gang turf stuff... something about a kid is walking on the wrong street trying to get to a school in a different neighborhood getting shot for being in the wrong place... Not that anyone in charge cares, of course. (I don't know if that's actually true or has happened but I don't live in the city so I'll have to take my friend's word for it.)

Also quite possibly not relevant.

I think you have it backward, the reason there is an increase in gang violence in schools is because the school closings are now putting kids from neighboring... umm neighborhoods into the same school. The kids from the next neighborhood often have gang affiliations that aren't those of their new school.


Which sucks, but the schools are half empty. It is too expensive to keep schools open when those areas are depopulating. People in those neighborhoods are moving downstate or to the burbs. The only reason it is so bad now is because the past administration didn't have the cojones to close these schools. So, a gradual consolidation didn't happen.

It will work out in the end. These kids are NOT stupid. Moreover, most aren't really active in the gangs. It is more of a membership by geography. I would bet most of those kids don't care all that much about their local gang. In fact, a lot probably try to downplay it. These are people just trying to live their lives, not a bunch of out of control crazies. They will adjust and hopefully things will work out for the better.
 
2014-01-18 06:22:32 PM  
I think we had PE straight through 9th grade.

Granted, in high school, it was a 45 minute class, which involved 7-8 minutes or changing time before and after class, and then 5-10 minutes of the teacher taking roll call, so you really only spent 20-25 minutes doing anything physical.  That's better than nothing, but not a whole lot better.
 
2014-01-18 06:24:02 PM  
Man, I hated PE class.

Yeah, I was a nerd.
 
2014-01-18 06:25:33 PM  

chitownmike: Oh it's relevant, kids have prescribed routes that are patrolled while they are on their way to and from schools


Now that's just sad.
 
2014-01-18 06:27:30 PM  
The only significant memory I have of PE class in high school was some hillbilly asking the pregnant teacher whether she felt she could, or could not, give birth to the fetus on demand.
 
2014-01-18 06:27:47 PM  
In other words, busy time for the stupid kids while kids their age in China are already learning advanced mathematics.
 
2014-01-18 06:29:10 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: chitownmike: Oh it's relevant, kids have prescribed routes that are patrolled while they are on their way to and from schools

Now that's just sad.


Funny thing is, they think it works.  Wasn't a girl grabbed and raped in one of these "gang-free zones" just a couple months ago?
 
2014-01-18 06:41:02 PM  

AngryDragon: Funny thing is, they think it works. Wasn't a girl grabbed and raped in one of these "gang-free zones" just a couple months ago?


A conservative thinks rape is funny.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.
 
2014-01-18 06:51:15 PM  

iheartscotch: Bslim: iheartscotch: Zul the Magnificent: iheartscotch: Huh; I'd have figured that, legally speaking, letting children leave the safety of the school to go outside had went the way of the dodo sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's. What if one of them were to get struck by lightning or trampled by a herd of rhinoceroses?

Rhinoceri.

I was debating that very question myself. Is the plural for rhinoceros the same word, like sheep? Or is it Rhinoceri? Or is it Rhinoceroses? Or do we need to put some letter E's in there, like geese.

/ or should we just leave it at Rhino; the plural being Rhinos

Rhinoces.

Ok, I've got one for Rhinoceri and I've got one for Rhinoceros. Do I hear one for adding in some E's?

/ we're gonna need a shiat load of E's...


"Rhinoceros" is from the compound of Greek rhino ('nose') plus the Greek ceros ('horn'). The correct plural of rhinoceros would then be rhinoceroses, as the -i pluralization is Latin. However, rhinoceri seems to be becoming more and more acceptable.

Ditto octopus; again, it's from the Greek (oktṓpous, "eight-footed"). Thus, octopuses. Here again, however, the Latin -i is accepted.
While we're at it:

ic.pics.livejournal.com
 
2014-01-18 06:54:28 PM  

gerbilpox: Oh good, a chance for the nerdy kids to be humiliated.


I've only just worked out (22 years after leaving school) that "Physical Education" should have just been called "Physical", because there was no "Education" about it. I've just turned 40, and had to get of my pushbike because I live in a city where the animosity between drivers, cyclists and pedestrians has been beaten into such an outrage by the local media that death rate figures show that cycling is now the most dangerous sport in Australia.

So I decided I needed to do something safer, and due to work travel, needing little equipment or commute time. I live near a lot of parks and free-use sports grounds. Running was the obvious answer. . But every time I've run in the past, my legs have hurt after about 60 seconds, and I gave up. So I've spent most of my life believing I couldn't run... the reason I ended up on a bike in the first place.

After talking to a few friends for a few pointers, ended up on the couch-to-5k running program.

The problem wasn't that I couldn't run, the problem was that didn't know how to run. I was over-extending my forward leg, trying to stride well beyond my capabilities, and my cadence was way way too low. I was also trying to do too much, too soon. So sure, now I shuffle along like an old man, but it's at twice my walking pace, and I've managed 5 minute intervals. Not impressive on it own, but 500% than what I could do 4 weeks ago.  And I'm having to hold myself back from skipping rest days, the whole thing seems so easy.

So how did I get through 13 years of "Physical Education" and never been told this? 13 years, 40 weeks a year, 80 minutes a week is 41600 minutes... a hell of a lot of which involved putting one foot in front of the other. Divide that by the typical 30 kids in a class, and we have an average of 1387 minutes worth of attention for each student.. about 24 hours. . And not once was I picked up on something as fundamental as "you're doing it wrong".

So without this basic skill, I was crap at most sports. I never built up the endurance to play a full 60 minute game.... I was buggered by the time we'd done the twice-around-the-oval warm up.. and my legs hurt. I was one of the last few to be picked for any team, and while it didn't cause massive self esteem issues, it was still not particularly pleasant.

The issue isn't that nerdy kids need to be embarrassed, it that the PE teachers, most of whom were jocks themselves, don't know how to teach nerdy kids. They assume that "all kids know how to run", which is absolutely untrue. In every other subject, knowledge is built on knowledge, and in the same way schools provide remedial reading to re-level kids who arrive at school without knowing how to read or write the alphabet, the system needs to teach the basic physical movements to kids like me, because without the basics, you're never going to be able to move forward.
 
2014-01-18 06:58:31 PM  

jaytkay: AngryDragon: Funny thing is, they think it works. Wasn't a girl grabbed and raped in one of these "gang-free zones" just a couple months ago?

A conservative thinks rape is funny.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.


1.  I'm not conservative.
2.  In English, "funny" can also mean "ironic"
3.  The idiocy of "gun-free", "gang-free", "drug-free" zones is that the people who they target don't give a rat's ass about the law anyway. You think it will discourage them from robbing, raping, killing someone?  Safety in those places is a complete illusion and is at the whim of the very criminals they are supposed to chase away.  It's as effective as a rock that wards off tigers.

Ergo, it's funny (read ironic) that the liberal retards think that criminals will pay attention to these zones, and tragic that a little girl had to suffer as a result.
 
2014-01-18 07:31:17 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: iheartscotch: Bslim: iheartscotch: Zul the Magnificent: iheartscotch: Huh; I'd have figured that, legally speaking, letting children leave the safety of the school to go outside had went the way of the dodo sometime in the late 90's or early 2000's. What if one of them were to get struck by lightning or trampled by a herd of rhinoceroses?

Rhinoceri.

I was debating that very question myself. Is the plural for rhinoceros the same word, like sheep? Or is it Rhinoceri? Or is it Rhinoceroses? Or do we need to put some letter E's in there, like geese.

/ or should we just leave it at Rhino; the plural being Rhinos

Rhinoces.

Ok, I've got one for Rhinoceri and I've got one for Rhinoceros. Do I hear one for adding in some E's?

/ we're gonna need a shiat load of E's...

"Rhinoceros" is from the compound of Greek rhino ('nose') plus the Greek ceros ('horn'). The correct plural of rhinoceros would then be rhinoceroses, as the -i pluralization is Latin. However, rhinoceri seems to be becoming more and more acceptable.

Ditto octopus; again, it's from the Greek (oktṓpous, "eight-footed"). Thus, octopuses. Here again, however, the Latin -i is accepted.
While we're at it:


But, the Latin i would only make sense if we were talking about an action performed by the person/animal/object. Ex. Romani ite domum.

So, if you were talking about an action being taken by the herd rhinos; the i would make sense. But, if you said "I just saw a herd of rhinos", the Latin i wouldn't make sense; because, you aren't describing an action that the rhinos took.
 
2014-01-18 08:05:22 PM  

sheumack: They assume that "all kids know how to run", which is absolutely untrue.


Actually, if you watch little kids run, they do it with surprisingly good form. We just sort of unlearn it as we grow up.
 
2014-01-18 08:07:44 PM  

macross87: Back in my day, we had PE between our PE.


metalinjection.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-01-18 09:13:47 PM  
In high school, one of our PE teachers was mordibly obese and shaped like a beach ball. The nickname for her (not to her face, of course) was "Hey, Koolaid!"
 
2014-01-18 09:18:41 PM  

iheartscotch: ArmednHammered: So now they can run from the gang violence while trapped in a school yard. That's so much better.

Ducking and covering now will give them practice for when they drop out of school at 14.

/ remember, billy, serpentine... serpentine


This.
 
2014-01-18 09:37:39 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Actually, if you watch little kids run, they do it with surprisingly good form. We just sort of unlearn it as we grow up.


In my case, I had no idea... so I watched the people running on the TV - Kenyan marathoners for example - then tried to emulate what they did. Not surprisingly, it didn't work.
 
2014-01-18 10:12:14 PM  

sheumack: In my case, I had no idea... so I watched the people running on the TV - Kenyan marathoners for example - then tried to emulate what they did. Not surprisingly, it didn't work.


Have you read Running Fast and Injury Free? You'd probably like it, and it's free.
 
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