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(CNN)   Walmart partners with farm labor group to boost pay. Congratulations Walmart workers - your job is now less attractive than migrant farm work   (money.cnn.com) divider line 23
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2014-01-18 08:44:39 AM  
Remember when Sam Walton paid his workers well and gave them stock options? Those were good times. Too bad his kids are such f*cking assholes.
 
2014-01-18 10:02:38 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Remember when Sam Walton paid his workers well and gave them stock options? Those were good times. Too bad his kids are such f*cking assholes.


If people want a job that pays a good wage, maybe they need to get a marketable skill.  There's a reason why stocking shelves and punching keys on a cash register pays minimum wage.
 
2014-01-18 11:11:47 AM  

Lucky LaRue: If people want a job that pays a good wage, maybe they need to get a marketable skill. There's a reason why stocking shelves and punching keys on a cash register pays minimum wage.


You sound like such a wonderful person and fun at parties!
 
2014-01-18 11:46:30 AM  

Lucky LaRue: If people want a job that pays a good wage, maybe they need to get a marketable skill.  There's a reason why stocking shelves and punching keys on a cash register pays minimum wage.


I daresay Professional Heirs don't really have any marketable skills either, yet they're extremely wealthy. Just imagine if one of the Waltons woke up in a strange town, with a new face, and no memory of their previous identity. They'd probably spend the rest of their lives in a homeless shelter or, at best, in a shiatty apartment on welfare.
 
2014-01-18 11:47:23 AM  

Lucky LaRue: NewportBarGuy: Remember when Sam Walton paid his workers well and gave them stock options? Those were good times. Too bad his kids are such f*cking assholes.

If people want a job that pays a good wage, maybe they need to get a marketable skill.  There's a reason why stocking shelves and punching keys on a cash register pays minimum wage.


If we have business models relying upon non-self-supporting wages, maybe we need to get better businesses.

And good for Walmart on this decision. Is a step in the direction that they've got many more steps to take.
 
2014-01-18 12:44:39 PM  
So how much does this put into the worker's pockets? How many lbs does a worker typically pick in a day?
 
2014-01-18 12:52:41 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: So how much does this put into the worker's pockets? How many lbs does a worker typically pick in a day?


if I read TFA right, they're paying an extra penny per pound that gets passed on, and the workers currently get something like 50 cents per 32-pound bucket. So ... 82 cents per bucket now? No idea how many theyre expected to pick per hour/day though, so I dunno how much actual money it's gonna come out to.

While this is a step, and an important one, it's kind of a backhanded one, as they really should address their own wage problems before righting the wrongs of their partner industries. Instead, they've made it obvious what they think of their own workers here.
 
2014-01-18 12:56:24 PM  
Wal-Mart should just build employee housing close to the store location.  That way, they can provide all their needs for them.  In exchange, the workers can get Wal-Mart Coins they can spend on anything at all in the Wal-Mart they work at.  If they want that silly cash, they can exchange their Wal-Mart coins, 4:1.  It's a great deal, really.  Why would they want to go anywhere else?

I know this is a great new, never before tried solution but give it a chance.

/What?
 
2014-01-18 01:05:07 PM  
But but but $17 Billionity dollurs profoot derp derp derp!
 
2014-01-18 01:12:26 PM  

WhoGAS: Wal-Mart should just build employee housing close to the store location.  That way, they can provide all their needs for them.  In exchange, the workers can get Wal-Mart Coins they can spend on anything at all in the Wal-Mart they work at.  If they want that silly cash, they can exchange their Wal-Mart coins, 4:1.  It's a great deal, really.  Why would they want to go anywhere else?

I know this is a great new, never before tried solution but give it a chance.

/What?


or better yet use dorms

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2014-01-18 01:18:39 PM  

jgbrowning: Lucky LaRue: NewportBarGuy: Remember when Sam Walton paid his workers well and gave them stock options? Those were good times. Too bad his kids are such f*cking assholes.

If people want a job that pays a good wage, maybe they need to get a marketable skill.  There's a reason why stocking shelves and punching keys on a cash register pays minimum wage.

If we have business models relying upon non-self-supporting wages, maybe we need to get better businesses.

And good for Walmart on this decision. Is a step in the direction that they've got many more steps to take.


Your worth to a business is how much additional revenue it gets for every dollar that it spends on you. If a business is required to expend more on people than it gets back, it will either find a way to replace them with machines or with different people who'll generate more revenue, or the business will fold. I'm sure there are some here who would welcome the latter because that business was inherently unworthy of existence and who needed it, right? Meanwhile the folks who worked there get to become dole-dependent wards of the state, and the people who patronized it have to find elsewhere to satisfy their needs, should such places even exist after the 'reformers' get done.

This brings to mind the activist who was asked what happened to all the women who produced clothing at an overseas manufacturing plant that the activist's group was successful in shutting down. She dismissively said, "I don't know, maybe they went back to school." If you're trying to improve things, maybe a little followup to make sure that what you've achieved is better would be a good thing.
 
2014-01-18 02:04:00 PM  

jjorsett: Your worth to a business is how much additional revenue it gets for every dollar that it spends on you. If a business is required to expend more on people than it gets back, it will either find a way to replace them with machines or with different people who'll generate more revenue, or the business will fold.


And you're saying the current minimum wage is the absolute perfect value , that raising it even modestly would send the whole system into a crash? Obviously a business tries to maximize how much 'worth' they get per employee but they also try to minimize the costs per employee to do that. Perhaps there's a little wiggle room between minimum wage and the 'value' brought to the company by their work.
 
2014-01-18 02:08:16 PM  

sinner4ever: WhoGAS: Wal-Mart should just build employee housing close to the store location.  That way, they can provide all their needs for them.  In exchange, the workers can get Wal-Mart Coins they can spend on anything at all in the Wal-Mart they work at.  If they want that silly cash, they can exchange their Wal-Mart coins, 4:1.  It's a great deal, really.  Why would they want to go anywhere else?

I know this is a great new, never before tried solution but give it a chance.

/What?

or better yet use dorms

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All that and a rigid discipline system. I would aslo add an exchange program to tranfer and move the workers as neededn within the store chain Each manager would have to compete or bid on the high value assets.
 
2014-01-18 02:14:59 PM  

WhoGAS: Wal-Mart should just build employee housing close to the store location.  That way, they can provide all their needs for them.  In exchange, the workers can get Wal-Mart Coins they can spend on anything at all in the Wal-Mart they work at.  If they want that silly cash, they can exchange their Wal-Mart coins, 4:1.  It's a great deal, really.  Why would they want to go anywhere else?

I know this is a great new, never before tried solution but give it a chance.

/What?


"St. Peter don't you call me because I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store."

/people are surprised when I sing that song at random sometimes
//not that the fact that I am crazy enough to just sing the song at random, just surprised that I know it
///besides, if you believe in G-d, why ask a human being to not take you to heaven yet? Why not tell G-d that directly! :-P
 
2014-01-18 02:21:45 PM  
I can't boycott any of the shiat companies, because apparently their shiat philosophies make their products below my standards anyway.
I wouldn't shop at WalMart if you paid me and it was run by a partnership of Jesus, Ghandi and Martin Luther King.
Chick Fil A and Papa Johns sell slop I wouldn't feed to my worst enemy's dog.
Hobby Lobby has overpriced shiat merchandise and stupid, rude help.
And so on.
The explanation for the phenomenon is probably simply that right wingers suck, and eat shiat in every aspect of their wretched, excrement stained lives, and can't do anything right.
But it saves me a lot of moral dilemma.
 
2014-01-18 02:23:39 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: WhoGAS: Wal-Mart should just build employee housing close to the store location.  That way, they can provide all their needs for them.  In exchange, the workers can get Wal-Mart Coins they can spend on anything at all in the Wal-Mart they work at.  If they want that silly cash, they can exchange their Wal-Mart coins, 4:1.  It's a great deal, really.  Why would they want to go anywhere else?

I know this is a great new, never before tried solution but give it a chance.

/What?

"St. Peter don't you call me because I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store."

/people are surprised when I sing that song at random sometimes
//not that the fact that I am crazy enough to just sing the song at random, just surprised that I know it
///besides, if you believe in G-d, why ask a human being to not take you to heaven yet? Why not tell G-d that directly! :-P


Fair enough. But what are we supposed to do when you suddenly break into "I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It"?
 
2014-01-18 02:52:18 PM  
You guys do realize that this extra $0.01/lb. is just going to get passed along to the consumer, right? So now because a bunch of bleeding-heart liberals had to throw a goddamn fit, I have to give another fraction of a cent of my hard earned money every time I buy a tomato just so that some filthy mexican can make a few more dollars per hour? We warned you that this would happen. We told you that if farmers had to start actually paying people something that could almost be considered a wage to pick their crops that you would be paying $20 for a tomato. So maybe the math off a tad, but now this nightmare that you all wanted has come to pass. I hope you're happy with yourselves. libtards!
 
2014-01-18 03:03:20 PM  
Walmart and Ford became the biggest companies in the world because they gave their workers a good wage and their customers a great deal.

It is funny how people do not remember that.

For example- Sam Walton would not take credit cards at Walmart because he didn't want his customers indebted  because of him. Now I cant go into a Walmart without a cashier trying to push the Walmart card on me.

Taking the 99 out of the price and swapping it for an 88 does not impress me. They are no better than anyone else when it comes to squeezing customers. I shop at Kmart because I can get people to help me and I can get through a register in less than a half hour. That extra 11 cents is worth it.
 
2014-01-18 03:08:23 PM  
You guys do realize that this extra $0.01/lb. is just going to get passed along to the consumer, right?

They'll raise the price $0.05/lb, talk up the program (ie blame the price increase on it) and management will pocket the extra $0.04/lb.
 
2014-01-18 04:52:55 PM  

mod3072: You guys do realize that this extra $0.01/lb. is just going to get passed along to the consumer, right? So now because a bunch of bleeding-heart liberals had to throw a goddamn fit, I have to give another fraction of a cent of my hard earned money every time I buy a tomato just so that some filthy mexican can make a few more dollars per hour? We warned you that this would happen. We told you that if farmers had to start actually paying people something that could almost be considered a wage to pick their crops that you would be paying $20 for a tomato. So maybe the math off a tad, but now this nightmare that you all wanted has come to pass. I hope you're happy with yourselves. libtards!


Poe's Law, or my Father-in-Law at the next family get-together?
 
2014-01-18 09:15:15 PM  
My question.
We can build machines that fly faster than the speed of sound.
We can go to the moon and back
We can change a penis into a vagina
But we cant build anything than can pick tomatoes?

Sounds like the ol' we need slaves to pick the cotton line again.
 
2014-01-18 09:24:33 PM  
ACTUALLY... I have formed up a small company with some friends with the intent on developing a machine to pick produce and answer the labor shortage.  issue, we are all working young adults and don't have enough resources for the project. Hopeing to grab a USDA grant in april for it but that is a bit away.
 
2014-01-18 09:31:37 PM  

jso2897: DarkSoulNoHope: WhoGAS: Wal-Mart should just build employee housing close to the store location.  That way, they can provide all their needs for them.  In exchange, the workers can get Wal-Mart Coins they can spend on anything at all in the Wal-Mart they work at.  If they want that silly cash, they can exchange their Wal-Mart coins, 4:1.  It's a great deal, really.  Why would they want to go anywhere else?

I know this is a great new, never before tried solution but give it a chance.

/What?

"St. Peter don't you call me because I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store."

/people are surprised when I sing that song at random sometimes
//not that the fact that I am crazy enough to just sing the song at random, just surprised that I know it
///besides, if you believe in G-d, why ask a human being to not take you to heaven yet? Why not tell G-d that directly! :-P

Fair enough. But what are we supposed to do when you suddenly break into "I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It"?


Make sure if a Rabbi is around, then pretend it's my "wife" (in quotations, because I am not married) that I am singing about! :)
 
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