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2014-01-18 03:53:42 AM  
So they make a sign that is acknowledged as a gang sign, the school acts within policy and investigates, then apologizes and kisses ass.. but they are still dirty racists??

Geez, What am I thinking?? they should totally allow suspected gang related activity in school without question...
 
2014-01-18 08:23:53 AM  

Olo Manolo: So they make a sign that is acknowledged as a gang sign, the school acts within policy and investigates, then apologizes and kisses ass.. but they are still dirty racists??

Geez, What am I thinking?? they should totally allow suspected gang related activity in school without question...


I think you missed the part where it isn't a gang sign. I'm also thinking you don't watch a lot of basketball.

Somehow A cop from Sheboygan is not the most reliable expert on gang activity.
 
2014-01-18 08:36:13 AM  

Olo Manolo: So they make a sign that is acknowledged as a gang sign,


Uh, I think I know where you went wrong...
 
2014-01-18 08:37:43 AM  
Hand gestures are a suspension worthy offense? Jesus.
 
2014-01-18 09:21:03 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-18 09:28:14 AM  
Maybe they should flipped the bird to the camera.
 
2014-01-18 09:34:38 AM  
I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.
 
2014-01-18 09:38:06 AM  

Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.


Wanna know how I know you're racist?
 
2014-01-18 09:39:35 AM  
I wonder if there is an actual sign for 'gang' in international sign language.  So it's a literal gang sign but not really a gang-gang sign. I don't know where I am going with this.
 
2014-01-18 09:39:45 AM  
Zero tolerance saves the day.
 
2014-01-18 09:39:47 AM  
This is my kids' school.  Sheboygan Falls is outside of Sheboygan, and *much* less racially diverse.  I am not exaggerating when I say the school is probably over 99% white.  A lot of the parents and some of the kids grew up on farms, and they're probably wigging out at the mere presence of black faces in their news.

OTOH, I think making hand gestures for a posed picture is kind of tacky.

/not from around here
 
2014-01-18 09:39:58 AM  
Yeah, totally not gang-related at all.
 
2014-01-18 09:40:07 AM  
So why do they have to do it like that? Cause it's crunk yo?

Just farking do this


Problem solved
 
2014-01-18 09:41:07 AM  
stupid fark

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2014-01-18 09:41:36 AM  
The county government should send the entire Sheboygan Falls police department, along with the school board, on a week-long fact-finding mission to South Central L.A.

A walking tour of Compton oughta give them an idea of what gang activity is.
 
2014-01-18 09:41:45 AM  

Mugato: Hand gestures are a suspension worthy offense? Jesus.


If a "gun shaped pastry" or a drawing of a gun is  why not hand gestures?

Remember home schooling is bad and the only option should be these fine government facilities run by these high caliber (ooops, firearm/gun terminology sorry) unionized government employees.
 
2014-01-18 09:43:04 AM  

Molavian: Yeah, totally not gang-related at all.


Thank you Ricardo the Romero for making the statement of which has the obviousness. The people who did the thinking of this as the gang signs are also those upon which will be at the cross burning and picnicking event on the evening of this. LAUGHTER OL of course I am doing the referencing to the Ku Klacks Kiln.
 
2014-01-18 09:43:29 AM  
BTW, the suspension was reversed by the administration prior to the game.  Sheboygan Falls lost 78-39.
 
2014-01-18 09:44:18 AM  
As someone who used to work with gang kids and doesn't watch pro basketball, I would've had questions about the hand signs as well. However, I would've pulled the boys aside and talked to them about it as opposed to just suspending them because.
 
2014-01-18 09:44:47 AM  
I think this will be a revealing little thread.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-18 09:46:25 AM  
You're more likely to see see a black hockey player than a blood in Wisconsin. I see if they said it was a Chicago gang.
 
2014-01-18 09:47:10 AM  

meow said the dog: Molavian: Yeah, totally not gang-related at all.

Thank you Ricardo the Romero for making the statement of which has the obviousness. The people who did the thinking of this as the gang signs are also those upon which will be at the cross burning and picnicking event on the evening of this. LAUGHTER OL of course I am doing the referencing to the Ku Klacks Kiln.


Well, one needs somewhere to fire one's Ku Klacks Pots. Otherwise, they'll be all soft and crumbly.
 
2014-01-18 09:47:37 AM  
static.giantbomb.com
/approves
 
2014-01-18 09:50:08 AM  
They should be careful not to buy any Skittles.
 
2014-01-18 09:51:02 AM  
Was the suspension..
oi40.tinypic.com
.. a final solution?
 
2014-01-18 09:51:06 AM  

meow said the dog:  referencing to the Ku Klacks Kiln.


Probably a typo, bu I would just like to point out that would be a great name for a racist offshoot of the Pottery Barn.
 
2014-01-18 09:52:27 AM  
you know, if you actually LOOK at their facial expressions, they look happy and triumphant, not "ooh let me pose gangsta for the camera".

Cthulhu forbid we should try to use other cues in interpreting a photograph besides OMG hand signs = gang signs ....
 
2014-01-18 09:54:46 AM  

berylman: meow said the dog:  referencing to the Ku Klacks Kiln.

Probably a typo, bu I would just like to point out that would be a great name for a racist offshoot of the Pottery Barn.


That's meow's shtick.
 
2014-01-18 09:57:37 AM  

Esroc: Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.

Wanna know how I know you're racist?



Because he's acting like a stereotype?

Hey, wait a second...
 
2014-01-18 09:58:14 AM  

abhorrent1: stupid fark

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20+ years ago I used to run the scoreboard at my high school. Our division did have a three point rule, and if a shot went in from anywhere near the line the ref used a hand signal to indicate which side of the line the shooter was on, since we couldn't always see past traffic on the court. The refs used the normal "V" sign for a 2 point basket and the sign on the left in the picture accompanying TFA, rather than the sign in your picture, for a 3 pointer, since it was easier for the scorekeepers to tell the difference at a glance.
 
2014-01-18 09:58:47 AM  
"The sign made by Jordan Jackson (on the far left side of the photo) is also commonly used by NBA players, such as James Harden, Lebron James and Brandon Jennings, after making a 3-point shot," Pederson wrote."

www.rawstory.com

And the sign made by the guy on the right is commonly used to suggest you suck a dick.  And the middle guy is doing some kind of double gun thing, big deal.
 
2014-01-18 10:02:03 AM  
Where in the article did it say that the administrators were white?
Or is subby a racist who jumped to that conclusion?
 
2014-01-18 10:06:17 AM  
White people are so very weird.
 
2014-01-18 10:07:14 AM  
If those boys just hadn't been so black, everything would have been fine. That's what happens when you decide to be dark around here.

/got nuthin.
 
2014-01-18 10:16:13 AM  
After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.
 
2014-01-18 10:18:13 AM  

Ima4nic8or: After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.


Since when is merely flashing a hand signal a crime?
 
2014-01-18 10:21:16 AM  

Deathfrogg: Ima4nic8or: After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.

Since when is merely flashing a hand signal a crime?


global.fncstatic.com
 
2014-01-18 10:22:45 AM  
Sheboygan sounds like one of those towns that still has a 19th-century law on the books banning black people from walking the streets after dark, but never got around to repealing it because it never comes up.
 
2014-01-18 10:25:08 AM  
Man, I remember when you actually had to DO something to piss off folks. Listen to rock music, smoke the pot, do drugs, stay out at all hours... These days, all kids gotta do is get their pictures in the paper and they in a gang.
If these kids keep getting everything just handed to them like this, they're gonna grow up to be entitled assholes.
 
2014-01-18 10:26:31 AM  

Snarfangel: Deathfrogg: Ima4nic8or: After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.

Since when is merely flashing a hand signal a crime?

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Hey, now.  As that guy said, it's only a styrofoam whale ceiling fan until the green hair spray catches dog.
 
2014-01-18 10:28:10 AM  
But how does this relate to the knockout game? I need made up reasons to justify my irrational fear of black folk
 
2014-01-18 10:29:01 AM  

Egalitarian: you know, if you actually LOOK at their facial expressions, they look happy and triumphant, not "ooh let me pose gangsta for the camera".

Cthulhu forbid we should try to use other cues in interpreting a photograph besides OMG hand signs = gang signs ....


That's the strange thing about racism. You and I see their expressions, and think, "Hey, happy kids" and move on without a second thought.

Racists look at their expressions and see, "WE'RE COMING TO SELL CRACK TO YOUR WHITE DAUGHTERS SO WE CAN RAPE THEM RAAAAAPE THEM" and break out the (figurative) noose.
 
2014-01-18 10:29:03 AM  

Spaced Lion: Sheboygan sounds like one of those towns that still has a 19th-century law on the books banning black people from walking the streets after dark, but never got around to repealing it because it never comes up.


I live in an old Sundown town. The local "conservatives" are still pretty irritated at the laws that banned lynching and allowed "them colored folks to vote like they wuzz normal people" even though all the old Klan (the largest west of the Mississippi River) was "officially" disbanded back in the late 1960s.
 
2014-01-18 10:29:41 AM  

meow said the dog:  the Ku Klacks Kiln.


So there's racists making pottery in the bottom of this?

suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2014-01-18 10:31:43 AM  
Wait, these kids are not even making the SAME sign, much less anything that resembles a three. Both of these signs are what "every" kid plus Lebron throws up? Can someone post a pic of that? IM not saying they are gang signs, I'm just saying they BOTH can't be the same innocent sign

/ this headline is racist and mean spirited. Just sayin.
 
2014-01-18 10:31:58 AM  

Ima4nic8or: After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.


Kid on the left: thumb and forefinger pinched together, other three fingers up. Like this:

d.yimg.com
 
2014-01-18 10:32:58 AM  

Esroc: Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.

Wanna know how I know you're racist?


Because I don't kowtow, I am a racist. Nice to know we've got a dialogue going
 
2014-01-18 10:33:28 AM  

apoptotic: abhorrent1: stupid fark

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20+ years ago I used to run the scoreboard at my high school. Our division did have a three point rule, and if a shot went in from anywhere near the line the ref used a hand signal to indicate which side of the line the shooter was on, since we couldn't always see past traffic on the court. The refs used the normal "V" sign for a 2 point basket and the sign on the left in the picture accompanying TFA, rather than the sign in your picture, for a 3 pointer, since it was easier for the scorekeepers to tell the difference at a glance.


cause the two hands raised in the air signal was too hard for you to see?
 
2014-01-18 10:34:55 AM  
Looks like the guy on the left is representing Blood gang.
 
2014-01-18 10:37:07 AM  

Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.


So what you're saying is if they don't want trouble they shouldn't act all uppity?

Yeah. That's new.
 
2014-01-18 10:38:05 AM  

Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.


Corkscrew necksnap!
 
2014-01-18 10:38:08 AM  
www.ezwebsite.org

Gang member!
 
2014-01-18 10:40:17 AM  
Objectively, the hand sign on the left does seem quite a bit closer to the 'blood' hand sign than it does to the 3-point version given by NBA players.  Almost as much of a stretch as the center kid "pointing at the camera".

It seems equally unlikely that these kids are secretly gang members and took this opportunity to spread their gang-related message.  Clearly they were just screwing around in front of the camera.  Any school policy that punishes kids for being kids is asinine.
 
2014-01-18 10:42:38 AM  

Albino Squid: Ima4nic8or: After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.

Kid on the left: thumb and forefinger pinched together, other three fingers up. Like this:

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Maybe, maybe not.  Hard to say.  The kids fingers are not really up like in the picture and his arms are weirdly crossed but given the image I would give the kid the benefit of the doubt.
 
2014-01-18 10:45:19 AM  
I too hate honkies
 
2014-01-18 10:45:44 AM  

I sound fat: apoptotic: abhorrent1: stupid fark

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20+ years ago I used to run the scoreboard at my high school. Our division did have a three point rule, and if a shot went in from anywhere near the line the ref used a hand signal to indicate which side of the line the shooter was on, since we couldn't always see past traffic on the court. The refs used the normal "V" sign for a 2 point basket and the sign on the left in the picture accompanying TFA, rather than the sign in your picture, for a 3 pointer, since it was easier for the scorekeepers to tell the difference at a glance.

cause the two hands raised in the air signal was too hard for you to see?


They raised both arms and made the 3 point gesture with both hands, because it was the easiest way to be sure we got it right at a distance if they were at an odd angle to the table or our view was partially obstructed. Hold up your hand and look at it from the side. Make both the 2 and the 3 sign with your thumb and pinky finger together. Then make the 3 sign with your thumb and forefinger together. Notice how much easier it is to tell the difference.
 
2014-01-18 10:46:26 AM  

Albino Squid: Ima4nic8or: After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.

Kid on the left: thumb and forefinger pinched together, other three fingers up. Like this:


This looks more like the 3point sign im used to seeing. But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.

Im sure this kid knew what he was doing.
 
2014-01-18 10:47:17 AM  
Subby, your headline applies directly to Congress.
 
2014-01-18 10:47:38 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Esroc: Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.

Wanna know how I know you're racist?

Because I don't kowtow, I am a racist. Nice to know we've got a dialogue going


Cool. An edgy, independent iconoclast.
And he doesn't afraid of anybody.
 
2014-01-18 10:48:31 AM  

mikaloyd: I too hate honkies


Especially when they try to ride the elevator.
pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-18 10:48:37 AM  
It looks as if they are each making a different "3 point" gesture but I know nothing about basketball.
 
2014-01-18 10:50:31 AM  

Lee451: It looks as if they are each making a different "3 point" gesture but I know nothing about basketball.


It involves throwing a leather ball through an iron hoop, but that's not important now.
 
2014-01-18 10:51:23 AM  
I missed it... which one is the three point signal again? I didn't think you had to do them with both hands.
 
2014-01-18 10:53:23 AM  

AxL sANe: [www.ezwebsite.org image 250x350]

Gang member!


Him too or him two (whatever):
www.speechbuddy.com
 
2014-01-18 10:56:48 AM  
At least they didn't make the sign associated with this vicious gang...

boingboing.net
 
2014-01-18 11:06:27 AM  

HighZoolander: At least they didn't make the sign associated with this vicious gang...

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If I were Paper, I would be very frightened right about now.
 
2014-01-18 11:13:38 AM  
Lol, goddamn white people. You're so insecure, a black child gives you the shivers because HE DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT IS UNCOMFORTABLE. You gentrifying, whitewashing chickenshiats.
 
2014-01-18 11:18:59 AM  

Snarfangel: HighZoolander: At least they didn't make the sign associated with this vicious gang...

[boingboing.net image 500x298]


If I were Paper, I would be very frightened right about now.


Frightened? But the Rock is your biatch, and he could totally crush those girls and their stormtrooper!
 
2014-01-18 11:20:14 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Esroc: Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.

Wanna know how I know you're racist?

Because I don't kowtow, I am a racist. Nice to know we've got a dialogue going


No, because you assume that this is somehow a black stereotype. That's why you are a racist.
 
2014-01-18 11:20:15 AM  
black__hippie:
This looks more like the 3point sign im used to seeing. But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.

Im sure this kid knew what he was doing.


Some players hold their hands up. Ray Allen often trails his hand to the side, making the same gesture. Amir Johnson, on the rare occasions he makes a three, makes the same gesture while pretending to roll dice. Tim Thomas used to make the same gesture, waving his hand in front of his face. Others make goggles with them. There are many variations, with the primary binding thread being that they all involve making that particular hand gesture.
 
2014-01-18 11:22:01 AM  

black__hippie: But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.


The conclusion that HOLY COW I MADE A THREE POINTER?

I mean...context matters, man.
 
2014-01-18 11:29:38 AM  
People make code signs because the non-cognoscenti don't know what they mean; let the code-flasher beware, especially in Zero Toleranceistan.
 
2014-01-18 11:31:51 AM  
I think you are all missing one important thing. This is a great headline subby.
 
2014-01-18 11:35:17 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: black__hippie: But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.

The conclusion that HOLY COW I MADE A THREE POINTER?

I mean...context matters, man.


Did he just make a 3 before the picture was taken?

I bet he doesn't celebrate his 3's like he gestures in the picture.
 
2014-01-18 11:39:38 AM  

black__hippie: cameroncrazy1984: black__hippie: But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.

The conclusion that HOLY COW I MADE A THREE POINTER?

I mean...context matters, man.

Did he just make a 3 before the picture was taken?

I bet he doesn't celebrate his 3's like he gestures in the picture.


Maybe he got trips and OP bought him a free Steam account.
 
2014-01-18 11:40:57 AM  

apoptotic: I sound fat: apoptotic: abhorrent1: stupid fark

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20+ years ago I used to run the scoreboard at my high school. Our division did have a three point rule, and if a shot went in from anywhere near the line the ref used a hand signal to indicate which side of the line the shooter was on, since we couldn't always see past traffic on the court. The refs used the normal "V" sign for a 2 point basket and the sign on the left in the picture accompanying TFA, rather than the sign in your picture, for a 3 pointer, since it was easier for the scorekeepers to tell the difference at a glance.

cause the two hands raised in the air signal was too hard for you to see?

They raised both arms and made the 3 point gesture with both hands, because it was the easiest way to be sure we got it right at a distance if they were at an odd angle to the table or our view was partially obstructed. Hold up your hand and look at it from the side. Make both the 2 and the 3 sign with your thumb and pinky finger together. Then make the 3 sign with your thumb and forefinger together. Notice how much easier it is to tell the difference.


It is even easier to differentiate between a ref with both of his farking arms above his head and a ref with his arms at his side.
 
2014-01-18 11:45:23 AM  

black__hippie: cameroncrazy1984: black__hippie: But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.

The conclusion that HOLY COW I MADE A THREE POINTER?

I mean...context matters, man.

Did he just make a 3 before the picture was taken?

I bet he doesn't celebrate his 3's like he gestures in the picture.


I love how you're seriously continuing to be suspicious about this. It totally makes it better for you.
 
2014-01-18 11:46:12 AM  
Oh, and the suspension has already been lifted.  I guess the administration realized they screwed up royally.  The kids aren't going to miss a game, and the school officials will be national laughingstocks for a 24-hour news cycle.

And in case anyone didn't see it, they showed a bit of video interview on Keith Olbermann's ESPN show.  Those kids are the nerdiest basketball players you've ever seen.  They're more likely to flash the Vulcan greeting than any actual gang sign.
 
2014-01-18 11:48:05 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Oh, and the suspension has already been lifted.  I guess the administration realized they screwed up royally.  The kids aren't going to miss a game, and the school officials will be national laughingstocks for a 24-hour news cycle.

And in case anyone didn't see it, they showed a bit of video interview on Keith Olbermann's ESPN show.  Those kids are the nerdiest basketball players you've ever seen.  They're more likely to flash the Vulcan greeting than any actual gang sign.


But a guy named  black_hippie is totally still suspicious that they are gang signs!
 
2014-01-18 11:57:29 AM  
starsrift
Man, I remember when you actually had to DO something to piss off folks. Listen to rock music, smoke the pot, do drugs, stay out at all hours... These days, all kids gotta do is get their pictures in the paper and they in a gang.
If these kids keep getting everything just handed to them like this, they're gonna grow up to be entitled assholes.


In Wisconsin, all you have to do to be a suspected gang member is be black. Milwaukee is the most segregated city in the country. Wisconsin overall has one of the most disproportionate rates of black incarceration. I dare any Wisconsin Farker to read this and then tell me our state is progressive or that we have any right to look down our noses at the South.
 
2014-01-18 12:00:05 PM  
The Constitution doesn't apply to high school.
cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com
High school is NOT a democracy..
 
2014-01-18 12:09:26 PM  
Even if they were gang signs, I still wouldn't have automatically suspended them from school.
 
2014-01-18 12:16:03 PM  

Ima4nic8or: Albino Squid: Ima4nic8or: After reading the article I was initially in full agreement with the ACLU that an horrible injustice had been done and that the players should be immediately reinstated but after I looked at the image again I am not so sure.  There is nothing in any of those hand gestures that looks even remotely like a three.  The guy on the right is making no hand gestures that I can see.  The guy in the middle is clearly gesturing but I see two twos or a four, or a set of guns.  I cant really know what the gesture meant but it sure as hell isn't a three.  I cant tell what gesture of the dude on the left could possibly mean but I sure don't see any threes.  Any normal rational person who wants to convey a three with a hand gesture is going to do it as shown in Abhorrent1's post above.  I don't know the intent of their gestures and am therefore inclined to trust the cops on this one.

Kid on the left: thumb and forefinger pinched together, other three fingers up. Like this:

[d.yimg.com image 371x449]

Maybe, maybe not.  Hard to say.  The kids fingers are not really up like in the picture and his arms are weirdly crossed but given the image I would give the kid the benefit of the doubt.


Yeah, given that the middle kid simply claims to be pointing at the camera, I wonder if the picture was bad and caught them in the middle of making the gestures, rather than when they completed them so they weren't very clear.
In any case, it seems like a ridiculous amount of fuss because "OMG they might have been making a gang sign...but we weren't really sure"
 
2014-01-18 12:29:28 PM  
Number 51's "Suck my Dick" sign OKed by school administrators that obviously suck dick.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-18 12:42:06 PM  
if they were white they wouldn't have been suspended or punished at all.
 
2014-01-18 01:19:41 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Because I don't kowtow, I am a racist. Nice to know we've got a dialogue going


Well, at least you can admit to being a shiatty human being no one should listen to.
 
2014-01-18 01:20:17 PM  

wambu: Number 51's "Suck my Dick" sign OKed by school administrators that obviously suck dick.

[i.imgur.com image 615x345]


That's not the "Suck My Dick" sign.  That's the international sign of the donut.
 
2014-01-18 01:24:22 PM  

hardinparamedic: Crewmannumber6: Because I don't kowtow, I am a racist. Nice to know we've got a dialogue going

Well, at least you can admit to being a shiatty human being no one should listen to.


He's apparently afraid of kowtowing to "treating everyone like a human being"
 
2014-01-18 01:29:20 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: black__hippie: cameroncrazy1984: black__hippie: But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.

The conclusion that HOLY COW I MADE A THREE POINTER?

I mean...context matters, man.

Did he just make a 3 before the picture was taken?

I bet he doesn't celebrate his 3's like he gestures in the picture.

I love how you're seriously continuing to be suspicious about this. It totally makes it better for you.


I'm not suspicious. Just saying its possible.
 
2014-01-18 01:41:58 PM  

black__hippie: cameroncrazy1984: black__hippie: cameroncrazy1984: black__hippie: But when you put the last 3 fingers in a straight line, turn your hand around in a non traditional way, and put the sign close to your chest, you are inviting people to draw conclusions.

The conclusion that HOLY COW I MADE A THREE POINTER?

I mean...context matters, man.

Did he just make a 3 before the picture was taken?

I bet he doesn't celebrate his 3's like he gestures in the picture.

I love how you're seriously continuing to be suspicious about this. It totally makes it better for you.

I'm not suspicious. Just saying its possible.


That's literally what suspicion is.
 
2014-01-18 01:58:46 PM  
If the boys think they got scrutiny for this, wait until they try to date any of the girls at their new school.
 
2014-01-18 02:08:26 PM  

Molavian: berylman: meow said the dog:  referencing to the Ku Klacks Kiln.

Probably a typo, bu I would just like to point out that would be a great name for a racist offshoot of the Pottery Barn.

That's meow's shtick.


And it stopped being funny ages ago. Metaroleplaying on the internet isn't clever, but I'm also aware he does it as a form of light trolling/lulz.
 
2014-01-18 02:22:44 PM  
cameroncrazy1984:
That's literally what suspicion is.

Day to day, you find yourself suspicious of everything that is possible?
 
2014-01-18 02:24:18 PM  

Belias: Objectively, the hand sign on the left does seem quite a bit closer to the 'blood' hand sign than it does to the 3-point version given by NBA players.  Almost as much of a stretch as the center kid "pointing at the camera".


The "blood" hand sign spells out the word "blood" with fingers.  This is not even close.  And it's the same way I hold 3 fingers (thumb and index vs thumb and pinky) because if I try thumb and pinky my other fingers form a claw. :(

I am with the  "idiot school official" diagnosis on this one.
 
2014-01-18 02:31:47 PM  
Tsu-na-mi: The "blood" hand sign spells out the word "blood" with fingers.

One of them does, yes.  Another looks very much like this photo. I don't care whether it is or isn't, the policy is silly.  Bottom line, any policy that (outside of the school system) would violate constitutional rights should be stricken from the books, IMO.

My point is I'm not ready to crucify the person asked to evaluate the photo. Assuming his evaluation is based on racism isn't fair, based on the photo.
 
2014-01-18 02:44:02 PM  

abhorrent1: stupid fark

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 200x251]


img.fark.net
Brantgoose orders Chinese:  I'll have the three items with fried rice.


img.fark.net

It's under a giant "W".

img.fark.net

What a bunch of witless Whitey morons

 
2014-01-18 02:45:02 PM  

If a black guy does a hand signal, it's a gang sign.

STOP THE BASEBALL GAME!

 
2014-01-18 02:46:02 PM  

Tsu-na-mi: Belias: Objectively, the hand sign on the left does seem quite a bit closer to the 'blood' hand sign than it does to the 3-point version given by NBA players.  Almost as much of a stretch as the center kid "pointing at the camera".

The "blood" hand sign spells out the word "blood" with fingers.  This is not even close.  And it's the same way I hold 3 fingers (thumb and index vs thumb and pinky) because if I try thumb and pinky my other fingers form a claw. :(


i303.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-18 02:48:47 PM  

img.fark.net

Illustration for the word "gormless" in my Webster's Illustrated Dictionary

They sure do look like gang thugs. They couldn't possibly be anything else, like harmless kids mugging for a photo. One question though puzzles me:  why was this picture taken in 1975? I didn't know they had "color" in Sheboygan in those days. I mean color film, of course.
 
2014-01-18 02:52:46 PM  
You're right subby. I agree with you. It's stupid. People see what they want to see in everyday things and that's an extreme over reaction to something that doesn't mean anything.
 
2014-01-18 02:56:53 PM  

hasty ambush: Mugato: Hand gestures are a suspension worthy offense? Jesus.

If a "gun shaped pastry" or a drawing of a gun is  why not hand gestures?

Remember home schooling is bad and the only option should be these fine government facilities run by these high caliber (ooops, firearm/gun terminology sorry) unionized government employees.


Yes, because the principal and superintendent are union members.

Idiot.
 
2014-01-18 02:57:24 PM  
[A black postman (Lenny Henry) in a medal-decorated uniform comes to them.]

POSTMAN: Guten Morgen, meine kleine Freundliche.
RICK: [still holding his crotch, doubled over] Bloody hell! Give them a uniform and they think they're Hitler.

The Young Ones, "Summer Holiday"

img.fark.net

Thinks: ... but I'm not Lenny Henry.

 
2014-01-18 02:58:17 PM  

Esroc: Crewmannumber6: I can see why they thought it was at least worth looking into. Plus if you're a black student in a primarily white school, drawing attention to yourself in this manner might be seen by some as stupid.

/if you don't want to be stereotyped, don't act like a stereotype.

Wanna know how I know you're racist?


and didn't read the article which clearly says this photo was the result of the photographer setting it up.
 
2014-01-18 03:04:20 PM  

Belias: cameroncrazy1984:
That's literally what suspicion is.

Day to day, you find yourself suspicious of everything that is possible?


No, and that's not what he said.
 
2014-01-18 03:09:19 PM  

berylman: I wonder if there is an actual sign for 'gang' in international sign language.  So it's a literal gang sign but not really a gang-gang sign. I don't know where I am going with this.


take another hit - you'll get there....
 
2014-01-18 03:10:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Belias: cameroncrazy1984:
That's literally what suspicion is.

Day to day, you find yourself suspicious of everything that is possible?

No, and that's not what he said.


You always feel like, somebody's watching you... and you have no privacy?

Wo-ooah.

black__hippie: I'm not suspicious. Just saying its possible.


It's also possible that this kid is a shapeshifting alien from the Horsehead nebula giving the invasion signal to his fleet in orbit.
 
2014-01-18 03:10:48 PM  

sleeps in trees: abhorrent1: stupid fark

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 200x251]

Inglourious Bastards would like a word with you.


cynicritics.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-18 03:13:22 PM  

Zero tolerence for black men making gang signs is just common sense.

rumradio.org

Expelled from office for making a gang sign

 

www.giantfreakinrobot.com

Beaten to death with an orrery for making a gang sign.

Too girly.

thumbs.dreamstime.com

Too young.

3.bp.blogspot.com

Too Jesus

 
2014-01-18 03:20:20 PM  

Sorry. I'm not saying Tyson-Degrasse is too girly. I lost one of the photos.

Here she is:

files.sharenator.com

Notice how the nipple follows you around the room,

appearing where ever you are looking.

STOP THAT.

I just lost a gag here. I'm grieving.

 
2014-01-18 03:41:03 PM  

Gone In 26 Minutes: Molavian: berylman: meow said the dog:  referencing to the Ku Klacks Kiln.

Probably a typo, bu I would just like to point out that would be a great name for a racist offshoot of the Pottery Barn.

That's meow's shtick.

And it stopped being funny ages ago. Metaroleplaying on the internet isn't clever, but I'm also aware he does it as a form of light trolling/lulz.


Says the guy whose fark handle is based on a meme based on a slapfight some asshole had with some biatch on the Internet.
 
2014-01-18 03:47:24 PM  

Tsu-na-mi: I am with the  "idiot school official" diagnosis on this one.


That is impossible. Since our school officials make all the money, they are the best there is at their jobs.
 
2014-01-18 04:04:01 PM  
classes.lt.unt.edu

"Yes, this is horrible, this idea."
 
2014-01-18 04:50:58 PM  

brantgoose: Sorry. I'm not saying Tyson-Degrasse is too girly. I lost one of the photos.

Here she is:

[files.sharenator.com image 500x666]Notice how the nipple follows you around the room,appearing where ever you are looking.STOP THAT.I just lost a gag here. I'm grieving.


I'd hit it doing Warp 10 around a star so I could hit it again.
 
2014-01-18 05:43:31 PM  
ronniehiggins.com
 
2014-01-18 06:36:46 PM  

Olo Manolo: So they make a sign that is acknowledged as a gang sign, the school acts within policy and investigates, then apologizes and kisses ass.. but they are still dirty racists??

Geez, What am I thinking?? they should totally allow suspected gang related activity in school without question...


Well, they are gang signs.  From the nefarious Miami Heat, Houston Rockets, and Milwaukee Bucks gangs.
 
2014-01-18 06:40:03 PM  

The Gentleman Caller: Lol, goddamn white people. You're so insecure, a black child gives you the shivers because HE DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT IS UNCOMFORTABLE. You gentrifying, whitewashing chickenshiats.


Write something like this about black people and see how many panties get shiat over it...

People (even all the way through this thread) say anything whatsoever about black people and they are RAWRRRACIST!!  Then this guy's post happens and nobody says a goddamn thing... How is this not considered farking racism? Do you hypocrites not even see this? No white people anywhere are offended by it(because it doesn't benefit them to cry about it), but how do you not farking see that aggression from either side is still perpetuating the bullshiat??

/half black:half white
//apparently only half of me can be racist
///other half is just a poor little victim
 
2014-01-18 07:10:58 PM  
Well let's see...black on black crime is killing more blacks than whites have throughout the history of the US and people are sensitive to anything black males do?

Sorry.  Logical.

And anyone posting articles from Raw Story is an auto-dipshiat.  I know because they are the liberal equivalents of bushbots.
 
2014-01-18 07:39:01 PM  

destardi: Well let's see...black on black crime is killing more blacks than whites have throughout the history of the US and people are sensitive to anything black males do?


Yes, blacks are killing eachother because they're black. This is why the New York Stock Exchange is such a hotbed of racial violence.
 
2014-01-18 07:41:19 PM  

Deathfrogg: Since when is merely flashing a hand signal a crime?


If you're a minor, there's no practical difference between "crime" and "something the adults in power don't like".
 
2014-01-18 08:30:14 PM  

Olo Manolo: People (even all the way through this thread) say anything whatsoever about black people and they are RAWRRRACIST!!


And here's where I stopped reading. Quit constructing obvious strawmen and maybe people would pay attention to you.
 
2014-01-18 08:48:05 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Olo Manolo: People (even all the way through this thread) say anything whatsoever about black people and they are RAWRRRACIST!!

And here's where I stopped reading. Quit constructing obvious strawmen and maybe people would pay attention to you.


So nobody has said anything like "know how I know you are racist" or anything like that? People on here don't get accused of racism for benign comments all the time? got it..
 
2014-01-18 09:11:01 PM  

Olo Manolo: cameroncrazy1984: Olo Manolo: People (even all the way through this thread) say anything whatsoever about black people and they are RAWRRRACIST!!

And here's where I stopped reading. Quit constructing obvious strawmen and maybe people would pay attention to you.

So nobody has said anything like "know how I know you are racist" or anything like that? People on here don't get accused of racism for benign comments all the time? got it..


Correct, people do not get accused of being racist for (as you say) "say[ing] anything whatsoever about black people."
 
2014-01-18 09:33:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Olo Manolo: cameroncrazy1984: Olo Manolo: People (even all the way through this thread) say anything whatsoever about black people and they are RAWRRRACIST!!

And here's where I stopped reading. Quit constructing obvious strawmen and maybe people would pay attention to you.

So nobody has said anything like "know how I know you are racist" or anything like that? People on here don't get accused of racism for benign comments all the time? got it..

Correct, people do not get accused of being racist for (as you say) "say[ing] anything whatsoever about black people."


I don't care enough to continue this back-and-forth. If you are concerned about where I got that idea (which I highly doubt you are) just read basically any one of the greenlit posts about something "racist" (extra points if cops are involved) and count how many people get labeled racist for no good reason. Decent place to start might be one of the threads about the "thug cycle toddler", where the people in the video refer to the kid as "thug", but any white person (on the news/in the thread) that said the same thing was called out for racism...
 
2014-01-18 11:23:21 PM  

jso2897: Gone In 26 Minutes: Molavian: berylman: meow said the dog:  referencing to the Ku Klacks Kiln.

Probably a typo, bu I would just like to point out that would be a great name for a racist offshoot of the Pottery Barn.

That's meow's shtick.

And it stopped being funny ages ago. Metaroleplaying on the internet isn't clever, but I'm also aware he does it as a form of light trolling/lulz.

Says the guy whose fark handle is based on a meme based on a slapfight some asshole had with some biatch on the Internet.


Oh snappings! That was the individual who became the property of you!
 
2014-01-18 11:46:07 PM  
hardinparamedic:
You always feel like, somebody's watching you... and you have no privacy?

Wo-ooah.


Get out of my head, man.
 
2014-01-19 02:23:31 AM  
That doesn't look like a three at all. I think they're trying to maintain their street cred after being imported to chase balls for whitey.
 
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