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(Daily Mail)   Scientists warn the Sun has 'gone to sleep' and say it could cause temperatures to plunge. On the bright side, its face has cleared up nicely   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 328
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2014-01-17 09:35:50 PM
With the sun, there's always a bright side.
 
2014-01-17 09:50:45 PM
FTFA:  'The world we live in today is very different, human activity may counteract this - it is difficult to say what the consequences are.'

THANK THE GOOD LORD FOR MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING

/or whatever the f*cking term is for it
//Imma buying a Hummer!!
 
2014-01-17 09:57:32 PM
This is from the Daily Mail. So is it scientists saying this or "scientists"?
 
2014-01-17 10:08:58 PM
Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?
 
2014-01-17 10:13:24 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?


Polar ice is still much thinner than it's been in recorded history, global mean temperatures have been on an upward trend, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere as been increasing, leading to a dangerous pH drop in the oceans, and practices like overfishing and deforestation threaten many species.

If the sun is 'cooling' it hasn't had much of an effect yet, and there are still plenty of ways we're farking up the environment independent of that.
 
2014-01-17 10:28:39 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?


Yes, scientists who have spent their entire professional lives studying the factors that influence climate somehow forgot to consider the effect of the Sun.
 
2014-01-17 10:33:33 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Polar ice is still much thinner than it's been in recorded history, global mean temperatures have been on an upward trend, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere as been increasing, leading to a dangerous pH drop in the oceans, and practices like overfishing and deforestation threaten many species.

If the sun is 'cooling' it hasn't had much of an effect yet, and there are still plenty of ways we're farking up the environment independent of that.


The sun has been going through a fairly active period until recently.  Not denying climate change, just thinking that if we find out that the Sun has more to do with it than us then alot of carbon offset buyers are going to be pissed.


revrendjim: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Yes, scientists who have spent their entire professional lives studying the factors that influence climate somehow forgot to consider the effect of the Sun.


Actually, if you RTFA, it says scientists still don't know how it affects Earth's climate.
 
2014-01-17 10:34:22 PM
I hope this isn't true. I sure as shiat don't want to move back to Phoenix.
 
2014-01-17 10:37:13 PM
Guess I might consider that bigger greenhouse.

/need my summer tomatoes and peppers......
 
2014-01-17 10:47:54 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?


The current working theories on global climate change could well be wrong, but not that wrong.
 
2014-01-17 10:50:16 PM

TheOmni: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

The current working theories on global climate change could well be wrong, but not that wrong.


I just wonder if we're being punked by the universe.
 
2014-01-17 10:56:53 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: TheOmni: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

The current working theories on global climate change could well be wrong, but not that wrong.

I just wonder if we're being punked by the universe.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-17 11:50:40 PM
What scientist tells people that the sun has gone to sleep? Dr. Lambchop?
 
2014-01-18 12:00:52 AM
Surprised Fox News isn't all over this like a cheap suit.
 
2014-01-18 12:21:46 AM
I've got my gold and guns and canned food, I'm ready.
 
2014-01-18 12:28:37 AM

TheOmni: This is from the Daily Mail. So is it scientists saying this or "scientists"?


Scienticians.
 
2014-01-18 12:47:24 AM
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-18 12:49:10 AM
solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov
 
2014-01-18 12:54:43 AM

namatad: [solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov image 743x1023]


If I read those graphs completely, all sunspot activity is due to stop, permanently, very soon.
 
2014-01-18 01:18:41 AM

Dimensio: If I read those graphs completely, all sunspot activity is due to stop, permanently, very soon.


It's ok. I read the short term temperature charts. We're going to eleventy.
 
2014-01-18 01:24:40 AM
Is that the signal to begin raping and pillaging?
 
2014-01-18 01:47:43 AM
You know what?

I really don't farking care what journalists think they understand about science anymore. Show me an actual research paper or study in a scientific journal that I can look at. This clickbait headline nonsense has go to stop. No more simplified op-eds for laymen by ignorant neophytes.
 
2014-01-18 01:52:42 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?


Well, the good news is we don't have to speculate on this. We can know.

We can scientifically test for this by analyzing the climate on other planets (Mars, the moon, Europe, Titan, etc.). If they are all congruent in their fluctuations, then we can distinguish between terrestrial influences and solar influences. And so far -- and I want to be clear on this that the data is very premature -- the Mars rovers haven't found anything.
 
2014-01-18 01:52:49 AM

TheOmni: This is from the Daily Mail. So is it scientists saying this or "scientists"?


muck1969: [img.fark.net image 278x207]


why do we even read the daily mail? oh yeah, we don't pick what gets green, and we just read whatever is shoveled up for us.
 
2014-01-18 01:54:24 AM

Notabunny: Is that the signal to begin raping and pillaging?


Fimbulwinter? Maybe.
 
2014-01-18 01:54:36 AM
Just remember, it takes eight minutes for light to travel from sun to Earth, which means you'll know we succeeded about eight minutes after we deliver the payload. All you have to is look out for a little extra brightness in the sky. So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
 
2014-01-18 01:55:18 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Polar ice is still much thinner than it's been in recorded history, global mean temperatures have been on an upward trend, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere as been increasing, leading to a dangerous pH drop in the oceans, and practices like overfishing and deforestation threaten many species.

If the sun is 'cooling' it hasn't had much of an effect yet, and there are still plenty of ways we're farking up the environment independent of that.


"Recorded history" is the last 150 years. In the 4.5 billion year history of this planet, that's like predicting the next ten years' weather based on how cold it was when you stepped out for a smoke this morning.
 
2014-01-18 01:56:07 AM

some_beer_drinker: TheOmni: This is from the Daily Mail. So is it scientists saying this or "scientists"?

muck1969: [img.fark.net image 278x207]

why do we even read the daily mail? oh yeah, we don't pick what gets green, and we just read whatever is shoveled up for us.


Because finding your own, reliable news sites it too hard?

You're on a vaguely comedic news aggregation site...
 
2014-01-18 01:56:33 AM

Ishkur: You know what?

I really don't farking care what journalists think they understand about science anymore. Show me an actual research paper or study in a scientific journal that I can look at. This clickbait headline nonsense has go to stop. No more simplified op-eds for laymen by ignorant neophytes.


i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-01-18 01:56:43 AM

phlegmmo: With the sun, there's always a bright side.


There is no bright side of the sun, really. Matter of fact, it's all bright.
 
2014-01-18 01:56:48 AM
Looks like the global climate change alarmists were right after all.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-18 01:58:01 AM

a particular individual: phlegmmo: With the sun, there's always a bright side.

There is no bright side of the sun, really. Matter of fact, it's all bright.


Even at night?
 
2014-01-18 01:59:02 AM

xanadian: FTFA:  'The world we live in today is very different, human activity may counteract this - it is difficult to say what the consequences are.'

THANK THE GOOD LORD FOR MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING

/or whatever the f*cking term is for it
//Imma buying a Hummer!!


I'm doing my part. I'm heating my house with imported old-growth Brazilian rainforest. You have to start somewhere.
 
2014-01-18 01:59:57 AM

bingethinker: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Polar ice is still much thinner than it's been in recorded history, global mean temperatures have been on an upward trend, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere as been increasing, leading to a dangerous pH drop in the oceans, and practices like overfishing and deforestation threaten many species.

If the sun is 'cooling' it hasn't had much of an effect yet, and there are still plenty of ways we're farking up the environment independent of that.

"Recorded history" is the last 150 years. In the 4.5 billion year history of this planet, that's like predicting the next ten years' weather based on how cold it was when you stepped out for a smoke this morning.


Twaddle, hogswaller and bullcrap.

We have tree ring, plant succession,  ice core and a bunch of other measurements for the past.
 
2014-01-18 02:01:43 AM

bingethinker: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Polar ice is still much thinner than it's been in recorded history, global mean temperatures have been on an upward trend, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere as been increasing, leading to a dangerous pH drop in the oceans, and practices like overfishing and deforestation threaten many species.

If the sun is 'cooling' it hasn't had much of an effect yet, and there are still plenty of ways we're farking up the environment independent of that.

"Recorded history" is the last 150 years. In the 4.5 billion year history of this planet, that's like predicting the next ten years' weather based on how cold it was when you stepped out for a smoke this morning.


Or it's actually nothing like that.
 
2014-01-18 02:02:49 AM

TheOmni: This is from the Daily Mail. So is it scientists saying this or "scientists"?


Third paragraph (which is also the third sentence):
Researcher believe the solar lull

So apparently it's "researcher".  Not the researcher or a researcher, but researcher.
 
2014-01-18 02:03:04 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?


A few things to consider :

  We have changed the stoichiometry of the atmosphere which has changed its thermodynamic properties.

  Temperature anomalies are not the only dangers we face when we change our environmental chemistry.

  While the earth can adapt to some environmental changes, it does not mean that humans can adapt quickly enough.

  Venus has a near perfect albedo ( meaning it reflects almost all light from the sun ), yet its surface temperature is enough to melt lead.
 
2014-01-18 02:03:06 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: revrendjim: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Yes, scientists who have spent their entire professional lives studying the factors that influence climate somehow forgot to consider the effect of the Sun.

Actually, if you RTFA, it says scientists still don't know how it affects Earth's climate.


actually, if you read your comment that he replied to, your retort is nonsensical.
 
2014-01-18 02:03:08 AM
Someone needs to tell Australians so they can stop all this nonsense about "record heat".

I know some US states will simply outlaw the sun's sleep cycle (like the did global warming). Problem solved.
 
2014-01-18 02:04:58 AM

bingethinker: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Polar ice is still much thinner than it's been in recorded history, global mean temperatures have been on an upward trend, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere as been increasing, leading to a dangerous pH drop in the oceans, and practices like overfishing and deforestation threaten many species.

If the sun is 'cooling' it hasn't had much of an effect yet, and there are still plenty of ways we're farking up the environment independent of that.

"Recorded history" is the last 150 years. In the 4.5 billion year history of this planet, that's like predicting the next ten years' weather based on how cold it was when you stepped out for a smoke this morning.


CO2 and other gases contribute to a Greenhouse effect. This is fact.
Humans, via factories, vehicles, and so on, produce a shiatton of those gases  IN ADDITION to any that natural activities produce. This is also fact.

How anybody can deny that humans have an impact on the climate is mind-boggling. Those two facts alone  should be enough to convince anyone with any rationality whatsoever, never mind the mountains of other data and the huge scientific consensus.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-18 02:07:09 AM

Notabunny: Is that the signal to begin raping and pillaging?


If not is it still okay to run around in circles screaming?
 
2014-01-18 02:10:05 AM

LordJiro: bingethinker: TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Has anyone considered that global climate change might just possibly be related to solar weather patterns and climate?  Gee, wouldn't it be funny if we eventually learned that, try as we might, humans can't fark up the earth more than its ability to adapt, and it's the Sun that's been farking with us all this time?

Polar ice is still much thinner than it's been in recorded history, global mean temperatures have been on an upward trend, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere as been increasing, leading to a dangerous pH drop in the oceans, and practices like overfishing and deforestation threaten many species.

If the sun is 'cooling' it hasn't had much of an effect yet, and there are still plenty of ways we're farking up the environment independent of that.

"Recorded history" is the last 150 years. In the 4.5 billion year history of this planet, that's like predicting the next ten years' weather based on how cold it was when you stepped out for a smoke this morning.

CO2 and other gases contribute to a Greenhouse effect. This is fact.
Humans, via factories, vehicles, and so on, produce a shiatton of those gases  IN ADDITION to any that natural activities produce. This is also fact.

How anybody can deny that humans have an impact on the climate is mind-boggling. Those two facts alone  should be enough to convince anyone with any rationality whatsoever, never mind the mountains of other data and the huge scientific consensus.

[i.imgur.com image 500x333]


If they admit humans have an impact on the climate, then they feel they would have to admit evolution is a real thing, the big bang probably happened as models predict, and that maybe gays aren't going to hell.
And that leads to all kinds of other problems.
 
2014-01-18 02:10:20 AM
assets.sbnation.com
 
2014-01-18 02:10:52 AM
*pats daily mail on the head* Now, now, child, isn't it time for you to go to sleep? Look, the sun's gone to sleep and won't be back until tomorrow morning!
 
2014-01-18 02:13:19 AM
'I am familiar with timing and balance as well as bathing, diapers and how to hold a baby without fear of an accident. I feel like I am now a pro!' she exclaimed.

You're familiar with four things having to do with one subject! I'm sure that's amazing for someone of your... circumstance.

In the real world, that just makes you adequate at four things, not an expert at an entire subject matter.
 
2014-01-18 02:14:57 AM
So good ski seasons are on the way?
 
2014-01-18 02:16:14 AM
At least here on the California coast, including San Francisco *gasp*, we'll get in a few more January beach parties before the ice age starts. Seethe.
 
2014-01-18 02:17:29 AM
I wonder what would happen if the sun does, in fact, 'go to sleep' and triggers a mini ice age...and then Yellowstone blew. Haven't supervolcanoes like that been known to cause mini ice ages themselves?
 
2014-01-18 02:18:26 AM

panfake: At least here on the California coast, including San Francisco *gasp*, we'll get in a few more January beach parties before the ice age starts. Seethe.


San Fran at 60 feels colder than Denver at 37.
 
2014-01-18 02:21:44 AM
See? This is why I don't like the whole human caused global climate changey thingy. If the sun produces 1% more, or 1% less light and heat than it currently does; it could be very bad news bears for us. The sun does go through cycles, it's not like it's a constant thing; like a giant 120 watt light bulb, or something.
 
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