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(The Raw Story)   In an attempt to satisfy America's blood lust, two states propose death by firing squad because it's "cost effective". Pay Per View rights still to be determined   (rawstory.com) divider line 569
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2014-01-17 08:54:24 PM
"We've been told lethal injection is so barbaric that the drug companies would rather not manufacture the drugs anymore.

"So we'll just switch to firing squads."
 
2014-01-17 09:03:54 PM
What's wrong with firing squads?

Personally, if I had to choose, I'd pick firing squad over lethal injection. And above either of those, I'd go for decapitation by sword. Sure it's a bit messier for the custodial staff, but who cares about them? They can just hose it all off now. This isn't the middle ages. We have plumbing.
 
2014-01-17 09:17:28 PM
People are completely inured to seeing innocent men, women and children dead on the street in ongoing war footage.  Seeing people they feel deserve to be dead instead might actually be less psychologically farked up.

And depending on the son-to-be-deceased, PPV might be quite profitable indeed.
 
2014-01-17 09:23:02 PM
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2014-01-17 09:24:40 PM
"Let's do it"
 
2014-01-17 09:25:21 PM
Hey, it worked for Gary Gilmore.
 
2014-01-17 09:28:37 PM
I've never understood why they don't just kill them with a big honking shot of morphine...
 
2014-01-17 09:30:59 PM
Any one want to play hang man?
 
2014-01-17 09:31:45 PM
How about we figure out why we send so many innocent people to death row before we start arguing about the best way to kill them?
 
2014-01-17 09:33:51 PM
I still don't understand why breathing in pure nitrogen isn't an option.
 
2014-01-17 09:34:17 PM
Here is my problem with beheading. Its got to be incredibly painful. Think about how bad it is after you get a paper cut. I can't imagine one's brain functions last more than seconds, but those have to be incredibly painful seconds.
 
2014-01-17 09:34:42 PM
I think the states should consider allowing people to bid to be on the firing squads.
 
2014-01-17 09:35:36 PM

mcnguyen: How about we figure out why we send so many innocent people to death row before we start arguing about the best way to kill them?


Well if you wind up a lifer in general pop you will die a nice slow AIDS/Hep C death even if your lawyers eventually prove your innocence. Id rather get any current form of execution than waste away from full blown AIDS.
 
2014-01-17 09:36:17 PM

doglover: What's wrong with firing squads?

Personally, if I had to choose, I'd pick firing squad over lethal injection. And above either of those, I'd go for decapitation by sword. Sure it's a bit messier for the custodial staff, but who cares about them? They can just hose it all off now. This isn't the middle ages. We have plumbing.


Hanging by long drop is better. As long as you don't mess up the drop, the person gets knocked out and strangles to death quietly, plus the family gets a nice intact body to bury. If the drop is too long, no problem with the decapitation, the person still won't feel it (scientists believe; I think no one has thought  to attach electrodes on the brain of the condemned to measure that yet), it's only if the drop is too short will be the problem with a slow death. It's better than drugs which when they were "alright" just paralyzed the person but they still felt death oncoming. Plus it's cheaper to have a noose than the swordsman not cutting all the way through on the first try.
 
2014-01-17 09:36:37 PM

doglover: What's wrong with firing squads?

Personally, if I had to choose, I'd pick firing squad over lethal injection. And above either of those, I'd go for decapitation by sword. Sure it's a bit messier for the custodial staff, but who cares about them? They can just hose it all off now. This isn't the middle ages. We have plumbing.


If I had to choose, it'd be hanged, drawn and quartered, this way you leave them with a choice of what to make for dinner.
 
2014-01-17 09:36:43 PM
In 2014 you'd think we'd have devised some way of snuffing someone out instantly.
Kind of dated but what about those machines that jam a bolt into steak's heads? That seems pretty instantaneous.
 
2014-01-17 09:36:48 PM
If the inmate wants to choose death by firing squad, what's the problem?  We should kill them in whatever way they want, up to a pre-determined cost.
 
2014-01-17 09:36:51 PM
High velocity bullet to the head, turning the brain to jam, happens faster than can be perceived by the brain in question. Thus we know it is painless. The chemical route was iffy, couldn't say with veracity the death was painless.

If you think they can't find volunteers in the lawkeeping profession then you haven't met many cops. That failing, use death row inmates to pull the triggers.
 
2014-01-17 09:37:13 PM
I'm okay with this, if the jury that convicts the defendant becomes the firing squad. Then jurors might actually take their responsibility over the life and death of others seriously.
 
2014-01-17 09:37:15 PM
government taxing and giving poor people food stamps? this is an attack on our freedoms!
government taxing and killing sometimes innocent people? USA USA USA
 
2014-01-17 09:37:32 PM
This state still has an electric chair even though injection is the primary means, so I guess they'll just have to fire up old sparky.
 
2014-01-17 09:37:35 PM
No you can't have a last cigarette, it might kill you.
 
2014-01-17 09:38:16 PM

White_Scarf_Syndrome: I still don't understand why breathing in pure nitrogen isn't an option.


Helium would be funnier.
 
2014-01-17 09:38:27 PM
The for profit prison system is disgusting and the United States should be ashamed with itself.
 
2014-01-17 09:38:29 PM

untaken_name: I'm okay with this, if the jury that convicts the defendant becomes the firing squad. Then jurors might actually take their responsibility over the life and death of others seriously.


Oh, and also, if the defendant is later exonerated by physical evidence, the firing squad/jury members all get shot.
 
2014-01-17 09:38:30 PM
I'd buy that for a dollar.
 
2014-01-17 09:39:05 PM

mcnguyen: How about we figure out why we send so many innocent people to death row before we start arguing about the best way to kill them?


It's always bizarre when people in this country claim that the death penalty is a "deterrent." Given our track record, it seems the death penalty would have to be a deterrent against being found guilty in court.
 
2014-01-17 09:39:15 PM
Isn't ammo expensive?
 
2014-01-17 09:39:16 PM
Sweet, Running Man will be on soon?!
 
2014-01-17 09:39:18 PM
I vote Snu Snu!
 
2014-01-17 09:39:27 PM

White_Scarf_Syndrome: I still don't understand why breathing in pure nitrogen helium isn't an option.


And give 'em a chance to say some final words. It'd be hilarious.
 
2014-01-17 09:39:40 PM

hoodiowithtudio: Here is my problem with beheading. Its got to be incredibly painful. Think about how bad it is after you get a paper cut. I can't imagine one's brain functions last more than seconds, but those have to be incredibly painful seconds.


I took a knife in the hand once and didn't even feel a thing from the cut.  It just felt like someone had pushed a hard object against my hand.  Well, I didn't feel the cut at least until a well meaning partner declared "Oh crap, there's a knife in your hand" and pulled it out.  Felt it then.

Moral of the story:  Don't have a guy standing next to the axeman ready to tell you that your head is off.
 
2014-01-17 09:40:07 PM

MrEricSir: mcnguyen: How about we figure out why we send so many innocent people to death row before we start arguing about the best way to kill them?

It's always bizarre when people in this country claim that the death penalty is a "deterrent." Given our track record, it seems the death penalty would have to be a deterrent against being found guilty in court.


It's a pretty effective deterrent, actually. The people who are put to death are completely deterred from ever committing another crime.
 
2014-01-17 09:41:07 PM
...or the state could just stop killing citizens, like the entire rest of modern civilization.
 
2014-01-17 09:41:32 PM

fusillade762: I've never understood why they don't just kill them with a big honking shot of morphine...


It takes too long.

Seriously, someone asked that question in CA a while back, and the response was essentially that it takes 30-45 minutes to kill someone painlessly via anaesthetic OD, and that's too difficult for the witnesses to sit through.
 
2014-01-17 09:41:53 PM

debug: If the inmate wants to choose death by firing squad, what's the problem?  We should kill them in whatever way they want, up to a pre-determined cost.


How much does being chased to death by naked female roller skaters cost?
 
2014-01-17 09:42:06 PM
Why is this scary?

Screw firing squad...a noose or guillotine is just as effective...and cheaper.
 
2014-01-17 09:42:54 PM

fusillade762: debug: If the inmate wants to choose death by firing squad, what's the problem?  We should kill them in whatever way they want, up to a pre-determined cost.

How much does being chased to death by naked female roller skaters cost?


Well, from the quotes I've received, WAY too much. Who do they think can afford it? Geez.
 
2014-01-17 09:43:28 PM
www.movievillains.com
 
2014-01-17 09:43:30 PM
Sign me up. We get videos of the victims being assaulted and murdered all the time, and for free. I'd love to pay to witness the retribution.
 
2014-01-17 09:43:45 PM
Just wrap a few sticks of dynamite around their head, and light 'em off....Guarantee it would be so fast, no pain..
 
2014-01-17 09:44:03 PM
I think we should use the most barbarous methods we can, within reason. Shooting, hanging, beheading and so on. And it should be public, and there should be TV cameras and no hoods or blinfolds on the condemned.
The people want blood? Fine, let's give it to them.
But if they don't even have the balls to behold what they demand with their own eyes - they shouldn't have it.

Also, executioners should be selected by random draft, and the penalty for refusing should be five years in the penitentiary*.
All citizens should live with the knowledge that as long as they allow that switch to exist, they may be called upon to pull it personally.
If people still want the death penalty then - fine, I'm with ya.

* That's what they used to give people for refusing the military draft.
 
2014-01-17 09:44:11 PM

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: I've never understood why they don't just kill them with a big honking shot of morphine...

It takes too long.

Seriously, someone asked that question in CA a while back, and the response was essentially that it takes 30-45 minutes to kill someone painlessly via anaesthetic OD, and that's too difficult for the witnesses to sit through.


WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN WITNESSES?!?
 
2014-01-17 09:44:23 PM

debug: If the inmate wants to choose death by firing squad, what's the problem?  We should kill them in whatever way they want, up to a pre-determined cost.


I prefer the victims family gets to choose...
 
2014-01-17 09:45:29 PM

mcnguyen: How about we figure out why we send so many innocent people to death row before we start arguing about the best way to kill them?


This has been my biggest argument against the death penalty.  You can't undo it, you can't fix it, you can't pay restitution...and more than a few innocent people have had their convictions overturned (140 since 1973).  One innocent person being put to death is one too many.

The other argument is that it's MORE expensive to execute someone than it is to give them life in prison.

TBH, life in prison seems like a harsher sentence.
 
2014-01-17 09:45:29 PM
MNF halftime hangings
 
2014-01-17 09:45:53 PM

untaken_name: MrEricSir: mcnguyen: How about we figure out why we send so many innocent people to death row before we start arguing about the best way to kill them?

It's always bizarre when people in this country claim that the death penalty is a "deterrent." Given our track record, it seems the death penalty would have to be a deterrent against being found guilty in court.

It's a pretty effective deterrent, actually. The people who are put to death are completely deterred from ever committing another crime.


Or even their first crime if it turns out that they were innocent.
 
2014-01-17 09:46:09 PM
Frankly, I think I'd take firing squad over lethal injection.

/for me, personally
//not that I'd be up for the death penalty for any reason
///except that one thing
////but there's not enough evidence to convict
//or is there?
 
2014-01-17 09:46:18 PM

fusillade762: I've never understood why they don't just kill them with a big honking shot of morphine...


A big honking shot of morphine might be (too) quick, and it would almost certainly be painless.

/see also the fact that the gas used in gas chamber executions is almost never 100% nitrogen, which would eventually make the condemned painlessly fall asleep and then succumb to hypoxia
//alsøsee also the electric chair, which was wasn't ruled unconstitutional until after a guy put to death that way was killed instantly due to faulty wiring when they flipped the switch
///alsøalsøsee also hanging, which if done properly breaks the condemned's neck and kills him instantly, but is only used in Delaware
////Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yër?
 
2014-01-17 09:46:32 PM
Even though I think the state should not be given the authority to kill a citizen (too much potential for abuse and making mistakes you can't rectify) I'd take firing squad myself.  However, I would prefer not to do the stupid thing where they shoot you in the heart...  shotgun at close range through the brain pan would be best.
 
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