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(Al Jazeera)   America will drive off a broken bridge if its crumbling infrastructure is not funded soon   (america.aljazeera.com) divider line 22
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2014-01-17 06:36:57 PM
3 votes:
It is far more extensive than just transportation, roads and bridges. All systems are slowly disintegrating. Railroads, electric, gas, water, communication, sewage, and even drainage. Systems that aren't even physical are also deteriorating, political, educational, legal, justice, and governance.

We Americans live in the ruins of a once great civilization. There is no one left who knows how to build, operate, maintain, or manage any of these systems. All we can do is sit and watch as our grandparents' modern country crumbles into dust. The occasional bridge collapse or building explosion is just the punctuation of our obituary.
2014-01-17 05:45:39 PM
3 votes:
The disingenuous bullshiatting in this thread is farking hilarious. None of you Fark Independents wanted to spend money on infrastructure back in 2009. I was there, I remember it well. The GOP completely monkeywrenched the stimulus because they wanted to extend the recession. And when the stimulus actually passed you were all mealy-mouthing about nothing being "shovel-ready" and hahaha wasn't it a huge boondoggle. Well, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: it's not my fault you live in states that pissed away the stimulus. During 2009 and 2010 I travelled throughout New England and every single state was repaving highways, reconstructing bridges, and actually putting shovels to work. I got a rationalized intersection, new sidewalks, and flood controls right near my house. I was completely satisfied with what my tax dollars bought.

Now I come into this thread and I hear the exact same voices claiming that the Democrats were against spending on infrastructure because of reasons and the Feminazis stopped money from being spent because white guyz and welfare cheats stole all the bridge money for their Obamaphones. What EVER. Kindly go fark yourselves with a cactus, kthxbye.
2014-01-17 05:17:32 PM
3 votes:
Has anyone considered making building bridges and repairing dams a military operation?

Cuz they're pretty well-funded and they have the manpower and nobody on either side of the aisle has a problem allocating a few more trillion dollars to the military budget.
2014-01-17 05:04:12 PM
3 votes:
spending taxpayer money on infrastructure in iraq: FREEDOM SPENDING
spending taxpayer money on infrastructure in USA: SOCIALISM
2014-01-17 06:54:20 PM
2 votes:
This varies from state to state and locality to locality. Here in Colorado, and especially metro Denver, we have chosen to tax ourselves to replace and upgrade our infrastructure. Billions in new roads, bridges and trains. Maybe relying solely on Fed dollars isn't the best plan.
2014-01-17 05:41:16 PM
2 votes:
I put this solely on the farking Baby Boomers. Those leaches didn't put a dime back into infrastructure for decades, and now serve as the basis of the god damn teabaggers that fight tooth and nail against every single tax increase to pay for shiat. Frankly, the sooner they die off, the better.
2014-01-17 05:39:09 PM
2 votes:

Torqueknot: We live in a democracy, that means it's only important when enough people think it is important


Nope. We live in a democratically elected republic. We elect representation who we feel will have views that will best serve our interests.

Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, we've turned our system into a government that is more closely represented by corporations than by individual citizens.
2014-01-17 05:35:58 PM
2 votes:

bbfreak: Dear everyone who thought it was a good idea to spend 6 trillion dollars on two wars, fark you. Just imagine everyone if we had invested that money in our infastructure, or science, or both. Nope, not as important as getting a boner from blowing up brown people or whatever it is that people on the right find so appealing about war.


yes, imagine the Nirvana where all the money blown on wars would certainly have been spent wisely, right?  Like it was done in the halcyon, non-pork years before that, right?  Your faith in Congress is as refreshing as it is naive.
2014-01-17 04:39:39 PM
2 votes:
Someone's going to have to start paying taxes
2014-01-17 07:41:48 PM
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: snocone: Oldiron_79: JerkyMeat: Thanks GOPers. Farking vermin

Riiiiiight because the dimocrats who would rather spend the infrastructure monies on crack nubians on welfare are 100% blameless

Both of you trolls, and I mean that with all due respect, could expend your energies directing attention to the Dividers and Conquerers that are peddling the GOP?DFL Poison Kool-Aid.

Both sides are content to fiddle while Rome burns they just can't agree on the song


They've agreed on the band, the Dead Kennedys, but can't agree on the song (links P-NSFW).
Team (R) wants Kill, Kill, Kill, Kill, Kill the Poor (Tonight).
Team (D) wants Let's Lynch the Landlord.
2014-01-17 07:02:54 PM
1 votes:

shootsright: "Sugar is good for you"
-Ad paid for by cane growers of America


Nah...it'd be more like. 

"Did you know sugar is a vital nutrient in your body? Without sugar your body would have no energy and you wouldn't be alive. While you shouldn't have too much sugar, and you should definitely stay away from man-made sugars like high fructose corn syrup, it's important to eat some natural sugar every day as part of a balanced diet. Remember, sugar is what fuels the human body. Fuel your body right, with natural sugar." -Ad paid for by the cane growers of America
2014-01-17 06:45:09 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: Someone's going to have to start paying taxes


If we stopped giving the store away to GE, Xerox, Apple, Microsoft, and the Military Industrial Complex by making them pay at least a token amount we might just make it.
2014-01-17 06:02:54 PM
1 votes:

technoblogical: Bill_Wick's_Friend: Has anyone considered making building bridges and repairing dams a military operation?

Cuz they're pretty well-funded and they have the manpower and nobody on either side of the aisle has a problem allocating a few more trillion dollars to the military budget.

Because that's not in the constitution?


The United States Army Corps of Engineers frowns on your shenanigan.

George Washington appointed the first engineer officers of the Army on June 16, 1775, during the American Revolution, and engineers have served in combat in all subsequent American wars. The Army established the Corps of Engineers as a separate, permanent branch on March 16, 1802, and gave the engineers responsibility for founding and operating the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Since then the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has responded to changing defense requirements and played an integral part in the development of the country. Throughout the 19th century, the Corps built coastal fortifications, surveyed roads and canals, eliminated navigational hazards, explored and mapped the Western frontier, and constructed buildings and monuments in the Nation's capital.

From the beginning, many politicians wanted the Corps to contribute to both military construction and works "of a civil nature." Throughout the 19th century, the Corps supervised the construction of coastal fortifications and mapped much of the American West with the Corps of Topographical Engineers, which enjoyed a separate existence for 25 years (1838-1863). The Corps of Engineers also constructed lighthouses, helped develop jetties and piers for harbors, and carefully mapped the navigation channels.


Oh, and  Article I, Section 8
...   for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings
2014-01-17 05:50:48 PM
1 votes:
is this the thread where sad-sack mopes try to assign some sort of actual conscious intent on the part of demographic groupings as though those groupings were sentient entities?


the boomer has no conscience, the boomer never sleeps, the boomer slapped yo big-ass momma, the boomer took your lunch money


/pathetic wretches
2014-01-17 05:33:09 PM
1 votes:
Dear everyone who thought it was a good idea to spend 6 trillion dollars on two wars, fark you. Just imagine everyone if we had invested that money in our infastructure, or science, or both. Nope, not as important as getting a boner from blowing up brown people or whatever it is that people on the right find so appealing about war.
2014-01-17 05:29:58 PM
1 votes:
It's almost as if we've been pissing away billions and billions on endless unnecessary wars for over a decade.
2014-01-17 05:29:29 PM
1 votes:

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Has anyone considered making building bridges and repairing dams a military operation?

Cuz they're pretty well-funded and they have the manpower and nobody on either side of the aisle has a problem allocating a few more trillion dollars to the military budget.


The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers:
-Is the Nation's number one federal provider of outdoor recreation.
-Is the Nation's environmental engineer.
-Owns and operates more than 600 dams.
-Operates and maintains 12,000 miles of commercial inland navigation channels.
-Dredges more than 200 million cubic yards of construction and maintenance dredge material annually.
-Maintains 926 coastal, Great Lakes and inland harbors.
-Restores, creates, enhances or preserves tens of thousands of acres of wetlands annually under the Corps' Regulatory Program.
-Provides a total water supply storage capacity of 329.2 million acre-feet in major Corps lakes.
-Owns and operates 24 percent of the U.S. hydropower capacity or 3 percent of the total U.S. electric capacity.
-Supports Army and Air Force installations.
-Provides technical and construction support to more than 100 countries.
-Manages an Army military construction program between 2006 and 2013 totaling approximately $44.6 billion - the largest construction effort since World War II.
-Researches and develops technologies to protect the nation's environment and enhance quality of life.

reference:  http://www.usace.army.mil/Missions.aspx
2014-01-17 05:26:03 PM
1 votes:

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Has anyone considered making building bridges and repairing dams a military operation?

Cuz they're pretty well-funded and they have the manpower and nobody on either side of the aisle has a problem allocating a few more trillion dollars to the military budget.


The Army Corps of Engineers built a bunch of flood control projects in the 50s.  They can probably slap together a new bridge in their sleep.

Of course, that was back in the days when Americans actually made things, so the skills may have atrophied.
2014-01-17 05:23:19 PM
1 votes:
They probably could have covered Ohio and Kentucky's Non-federally backed dollars for the 71/75 bridge in what they wasted on Paul Brown stadium alone.


They want to make the new bridge toll.. of course they do.

Oh, and while they are doing that...

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The hell of justice is falling apart
2014-01-17 05:20:33 PM
1 votes:
Start a lottery where none of the money goes where it's suppose to.
2014-01-17 05:19:13 PM
1 votes:
them Al Jazeera terrorists just want us to build new things so they can knock 'em down.
no wai. sorry buddies but we are wize to your plans, we know your tricks.
2014-01-17 05:10:13 PM
1 votes:
If we could get Boomers to pay back into the system we'd be set.
 
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