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(Salon)   Fat-shaming fit mom is upset about being blocked on Facebook after WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE FARK I'M SUPPOSED TO CARE?   (salon.com) divider line 240
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2014-01-17 04:54:09 PM  
Fit Mom get outta my mind.
My love for you is way outta line.
You better run Mom
You're much too Fit Mom!
 
2014-01-17 05:01:17 PM  
Fat shaming is bad for business on Facebook.
 
2014-01-17 05:12:16 PM  
"I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.

So, ignore her.

Help the Facebook mods solve real crimes/dilemmas, please.
 
2014-01-17 05:19:15 PM  
You're supposed to care because being fit isn't normal anymore.

She's an aberration, and we all know what happens to those that don't fit in....
 
2014-01-17 05:19:49 PM  
WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE WHY THE FARK THIS shiat GETS GREENLIGHTED?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-17 05:20:36 PM  
TUESDAY, NOV 26, 2013 4:58 PM UTC

You're not supposed to care any more.
 
2014-01-17 05:21:36 PM  
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-17 05:22:04 PM  

meat0918: You're supposed to care because being fit isn't normal anymore.

She's an aberration, and we all know what happens to those that don't fit in....


They get fit shamed, lose their self esteem, and end up banging dudes like me? Excellent. I like the way you think.
 
2014-01-17 05:22:37 PM  
www.demotivation.us
 
2014-01-17 05:22:42 PM  

This About That: Fat shaming is bad for business on Facebook.


I've just copyrighted 'Fat-facebook"
 
2014-01-17 05:23:52 PM  
You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else
 
2014-01-17 05:24:57 PM  
Dunno but you submitted it
 
2014-01-17 05:25:17 PM  
If you have time to go on the Today Show, you have time to work out more, fatty.  It's all about how you utilize your time.  While on the show (in November) you weren't working out nor were you raising your children properly.  And now, because of the rules, you shall be known as Unfit Mom.
 
2014-01-17 05:26:13 PM  
That was a lot of words for the author to type for such an insignificant topic.
 
2014-01-17 05:28:29 PM  
Fark is so efficient that subby is now 'no1curr'-ing his own headline.
 
2014-01-17 05:29:03 PM  

abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else


No they're not. But they will be at some point.
 
2014-01-17 05:29:31 PM  

abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else


This is fark. It would be lonely in here without the fat folk.
 
2014-01-17 05:29:55 PM  
Kaaaaaang!
 
2014-01-17 05:30:37 PM  

DubyaHater: That was a lot of words for the author to type for such an insignificant topic.


I see you aren't familiar with Salon.
 
2014-01-17 05:30:53 PM  

abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else


They can be fat where ever, but I don't like being shamed because I don't find fat chicks sexy.

Although the impotent rage that comes from fatties who are reminded that they're fat amuses me.
 
2014-01-17 05:31:31 PM  
See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.
 
2014-01-17 05:33:53 PM  
she's got bug-eyes... cant diet those away
 
2014-01-17 05:35:13 PM  
Ohh it's a img1.fark.net link.

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2014-01-17 05:36:03 PM  
her eyes are off centered
 
2014-01-17 05:36:35 PM  
Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.
 
2014-01-17 05:38:13 PM  
Can't really fix derp eyes.
 
2014-01-17 05:38:49 PM  

symptomoftheuniverse: WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE WHY THE FARK THIS shiat GETS GREENLIGHTED?


This-- That's just it; IDGAF.
 
2014-01-17 05:40:16 PM  

GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.


Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.  You have no legitimate reason for hating them.  The reason you do hate them is because you hate yourself and are terrified of becoming fat yourself.

It's hilarious.
 
2014-01-17 05:40:31 PM  
That article was WAY too long for me to read about someone I can just ignore.
 
2014-01-17 05:40:34 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: If you have time to go on the Today Show, you have time to work out more, fatty.  It's all about how you utilize your time.  While on the show (in November) you weren't working out nor were you raising your children properly.  And now, because of the rules, you shall be known as Unfit Mom.


Opinions are like assholes - they all stink, and keep it to yourself unless/until you get the green light to plumb the depths of "opinion".

And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.
 
2014-01-17 05:42:42 PM  
Honey, if you're going to run around shouting about how your shiat don't stink, don't act all shocked when people get tired of your attitude and press your face into your mess.
 
2014-01-17 05:43:34 PM  

lewismarktwo: Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.


[citation needed]

lewismarktwo: The reason you do hate them is because you hate yourself and are terrified of becoming fat yourself.


I was well on my way but I got off my expanding ass and did something about it.
 
2014-01-17 05:43:59 PM  

lewismarktwo: Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.  You have no legitimate reason for hating them.  The reason you do hate them is because you hate yourself and are terrified of becoming fat yourself.

It's hilarious.


You sound fat.
 
2014-01-17 05:44:32 PM  

lewismarktwo: Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone. You have no legitimate reason for hating them. The reason you do hate them is because you hate yourself and are terrified of becoming fat yourself.


[NoSureIfSerious.jpg]
 
2014-01-17 05:44:53 PM  

meat0918: You're supposed to care because being fit isn't normal anymore.

She's an aberration, and we all know what happens to those that don't fit in....


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-17 05:46:48 PM  
Let me tell you what I've learned about caring, lately, Subz.

also:
There is a thin person trapped inside you.
 
2014-01-17 05:47:28 PM  

GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.


Yeah, I know this is Fark...but.  You're part of "the problem".  "The Problem" is that we in this country can't separate the intellectual understanding that being overweight is a problem that should be corrected, from self esteem.

An overweight person should understand that they are overweight, and work to correct that situation, and not feel like they are a horrible person.  But since we can't make that separation we end up with the "Fat is Fine" morons that won't even allow for the fact that being fat is bad; and the "You're a lazy lard ass" dipshiats who think that is the right motivator to help people lose weight.   We need to get over his self-esteem crap and fix the problems.  Saying "you should be ashamed" doesn't help, it just makes you a dick.

Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....
 
2014-01-17 05:48:15 PM  
"Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.


Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.
 
2014-01-17 05:48:55 PM  

lewismarktwo: Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.


Here's something to chew on like it's a mayo-slathered bacon sandwich, washed down with a 64 oz. grape soda.

http://www.phitamerica.org/News_Archive/10_Flaggergasting_Costs.htm

I don't hate fat people, I just call their bullshiat excuses what they are.
 
2014-01-17 05:48:59 PM  

lewismarktwo: GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.

Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.  You have no legitimate reason for hating them.  The reason you do hate them is because you hate yourself and are terrified of becoming fat yourself.

It's hilarious.


fat people may have shorter lives, but the time they spend are usually filled with diabetes, heart problems, a slew of other ailments and rascals...lots and lots of rascals.
 
2014-01-17 05:50:54 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Honey, if you're going to run around shouting about how your shiat don't stink, don't act all shocked when people get tired of your attitude and press your face into your mess.


Sadly it is mostly the McFatties that act like that:


static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-01-17 05:51:00 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....


So the solution is to say, "It's okay if you write down "potato" as an answer to "2 + 2", don't let those moron-shaming shiatlords get you down, you can be a math major no matter what your answer is!

And then hand the kid a participation trophy.
 
2014-01-17 05:51:05 PM  
"Fit Mom" can't accept that she's just being a biatch.

You don't encourage people by insulting, gloating, and flaunting. If she's trying to encourage people, she's failing miserably and needs to re-think her messaging.

To put it in her terms: If you have time to complain, you have time to understand and fix the problem.
 
2014-01-17 05:51:10 PM  

tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.



Nope.  You're being ridiculous.  WE ARE NORMALIZING OBESITY.  In fact, it's already done.  There is nothing what so ever judgmental about that, nor is it conceited to point it out to others.

Just because YOU are too ignorant to know what most of those words mean, and how they apply to the real world doesn't make it judgmental or conceited in the slightest.  It just makes you an idiot.

What needs to happen here is that we need to tell people that are unhappy with their bodies that it is THEIR GOD DAMN FAULT, and if they don't like it, they should do something about it.  There is nothing wrong with making people take responsibility for their actions (or lack of).

It also wouldn't hurt for people to give a few less farks what other people think about the way they look.  But so many of the people complaining here are the same kind that buy all the fashion magazines, and people, and whatever and then lament the media projected image of sexy.  Stop consuming the media, and all the sudden your self image is improved... AMAZING.

/all that being said, I like some curves
//that kang woman looks good... for a 12 year old.
///overweight
 
2014-01-17 05:51:45 PM  
She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?
 
2014-01-17 05:51:50 PM  
Women: {words}
Men: Pics?
 
2014-01-17 05:52:06 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-17 05:53:29 PM  
DontMakeMeComeBackThere:

Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....

They don't want to help, they just want to abuse someone so they can feel superior.
 
2014-01-17 05:53:44 PM  
There are better ways to say that obesity is a problem.

Here's one: Obesity causes erectile dysfunction. Not just sterility, but dysfunction.
 
2014-01-17 05:53:49 PM  
How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?

/losers
 
2014-01-17 05:56:24 PM  
i5.asn.im

Stop judging me!  I can be healthy at any size!  It's a glandular issue!
 
2014-01-17 05:56:41 PM  

theMightyRegeya: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....

So the solution is to say, "It's okay if you write down "potato" as an answer to "2 + 2", don't let those moron-shaming shiatlords get you down, you can be a math major no matter what your answer is!

And then hand the kid a participation trophy.


Try reading my ENTIRE comment, then post a response, sparky.
 
2014-01-17 05:57:16 PM  
Snotty stuck-up b*tch who goes around judging people is told to STFU or GTFO.

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-01-17 05:57:40 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?




And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.


She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2014-01-17 05:57:57 PM  
media.salon.com
LOL, she ain't even mad tho.
 
2014-01-17 05:57:57 PM  

sharphead: See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.


Obvious really: If something good happens it's due to her boot-strappyness, hardwork and drive. If something bad happens it's 'outside her control', somone else's fault or society picking on her.
 
2014-01-17 05:58:10 PM  

symptomoftheuniverse: WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE WHY THE FARK THIS shiat GETS GREENLIGHTED?


Well, it starts off with an exec from Salon sending a hooker carrying beer to Drew's mansion......................
 
2014-01-17 05:58:11 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Saying "you should be ashamed" doesn't help, it just makes you a dick.


Yeah, that's the Fark part  :)

I get it, nobody likes to be told what to do.  But the problem has gone way beyond them just harming themselves, and we are poorly served by sheltering people from that reality.
 
2014-01-17 05:59:15 PM  
This is beyond stupid. A person who exercises is being shamed for not being...what? Fat? Her message 'what's your excuse' is somehow demeaning? Okay, allow me to substitute some other images for a busy mom who's making a point to try living a healthy life despite being busy because apparently that's too hard for most people.
metrouk2.files.wordpress.com
What's your excuse?

i.telegraph.co.uk

static2.businessinsider.com

d8kyhhndkm363.cloudfront.net
 
2014-01-17 06:00:50 PM  
women are jealous of another woman so they rally against her? *yawn*

i2.cdn.turner.com

Don't like her, don't follow her. Idiot.
 
2014-01-17 06:01:12 PM  
And at the risk of invoking  studman69, that picture makes her look like she was drawn by a marginally talented 7th-grade art student. "Great effort, Matt, but the eyes are two entirely different shapes, the face is all lopsided, and what's up with that mouth?"
 
2014-01-17 06:03:31 PM  

symptomoftheuniverse: WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE WHY THE FARK THIS shiat GETS GREENLIGHTED?


poutrage = clicks.
 
2014-01-17 06:03:34 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?


It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

The My Little Pony Killer: No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?


Lost 35 lbs. and have since run three half-marathons, so I have plenty to feel pretty awesome about.
 
2014-01-17 06:04:44 PM  
What's her excuse for dabbling in a bit of the ole' Photoshop?
 
2014-01-17 06:05:11 PM  
A thread about fat people and judging? Oh MSTD, where aaaaaare yooooou?
 
2014-01-17 06:05:32 PM  

WhyKnot: lewismarktwo: GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.

Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.  You have no legitimate reason for hating them.  The reason you do hate them is because you hate yourself and are terrified of becoming fat yourself.

It's hilarious.

fat people may have shorter lives, but the time they spend are usually filled with diabetes, heart problems, a slew of other ailments and rascals...lots and lots of rascals.


Dialysis ain't cheap.
 
2014-01-17 06:07:08 PM  
If I don't pay their bills, I don't warn people about smoking or overeating. At some point I let adults be adults and I mind my own business.
 
2014-01-17 06:07:24 PM  

Moopy Mac: Dialysis ain't cheap.


It's almost as if there is a mathematical reason why the government is trying so hard to get healthier people enrolled in health insurance policies.
 
2014-01-17 06:07:26 PM  
Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!
 
2014-01-17 06:07:56 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.

Yeah, I know this is Fark...but.  You're part of "the problem".  "The Problem" is that we in this country can't separate the intellectual understanding that being overweight is a problem that should be corrected, from self esteem.

An overweight person should understand that they are overweight, and work to correct that situation, and not feel like they are a horrible person.  But since we can't make that separation we end up with the "Fat is Fine" morons that won't even allow for the fact that being fat is bad; and the "You're a lazy lard ass" dipshiats who think that is the right motivator to help people lose weight.   We need to get over his self-esteem crap and fix the problems.  Saying "you should be ashamed" doesn't help, it just makes you a dick.

Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....


chicken and egg argument...that is to say, who cast the first stone in the battle of the bulge:
1) are non-fatties frustrated with fatties because fatties fail to acknowledge their own health concerns and/or feel confident and attractive, or
2) are fatties frustrated at non-fatties for judging them and wanting them to feel ashamed?

/    I understand that both are present on a daily basis, but they feed off of each other and continue the cycle.
//   As much as I hate the level of obesity that we have in America, if people want to eat deep fried butter, that really is their prerogative
///  my observation is that few people (both fit or fat) will cast scorn at a large person when said large person is trying to get healthy*.
//// *a super sized diet coke, adouble-double, and extrafries are not "getting healthy"
 
2014-01-17 06:09:23 PM  
I honestly can't see what's so mind-bogglingly offensive about her original picture. Yeah, it's a teeny bit judgemental, but if "What's your Excuse" is enough to rock the foundations of your world, I'd say it's more of a case of hitting a nerve than actually being judgemental.

Any anyone, ANYONE who counsels someone else and tells them that "it's perfectly healthy to be obese" should be thrown in jail for criminal negligence (especially if you're not a bona-fide MD).
 
2014-01-17 06:09:38 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?

/losers


The #1 security/financial threat to this country is the increasing cost of health care. One of the main reasons for this is the normalization of obesity. That affects everyone.

A lot of very smart people have said this, most notably (and probably most often), President Clinton.
 
2014-01-17 06:09:46 PM  

GreenSun: Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!


southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2014-01-17 06:10:29 PM  
It's not helpful to say "you're fat."  No shiat, the fat person knows that.  Better to offer specific advice.

- Don't eat fast food.  McDonalds, Burger King, etc... that stuff is horrible for you.

- Try to exercise every day, even if only for a short while.  Even 5-10 minutes is much better than nothing.

- Skip sugary drinks: regular sodas, fruit juices, etc.; and try to minimize very sugary foods/desserts.

- Don't give up.  Unless you're Samoan or have thyroid problems, you can control your weight.  It requires perseverance, though.  Instead of viewing healthy food as a short-term plan (e.g. "30 day diet"), try to make it a normal part of your life.  Once you make it a habit, it's easy.  Your taste buds will adapt to the stuff you currently think is bland.
 
2014-01-17 06:11:03 PM  

GreenSun: Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!


And let's just disregard the whole genetic argument. The human species has not evolved that much over the last fifty years.
 
2014-01-17 06:13:50 PM  

hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?

And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.

She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x793]


Alcohol still costs the U.S. far more, yet I don't hear people screaming for anything to be done about it.

It's just the price we pay for living in the U.S. Why should being overweight be any different?

When the powers the be want to discuss completely getting rid of tobacco and alcohol, then maybe I could agree on obesity. But addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.

The 3 largest expenditures in health care are the above 3, btw.. Alcohol is #1, Obesity is #2, Smoking is #3.  Smokers already pay more for their health care. Maybe we should just start charging people "by the pound" for health care as well. Can't really think of a way to charge people extra "by the drink" though..
 
2014-01-17 06:15:13 PM  

meat0918: You're supposed to care because being fit isn't normal anymore.

She's an aberration, and we all know what happens to those that don't fit in....


They get deep friend and served up as cheeto dusted munchies?
 
2014-01-17 06:15:21 PM  

Captain Dan: Unless you're Samoan or have thyroid problems


you talking 'bout tony rocky horror?

i wouldn't go so far as to call the brother fat. i mean, he's got a weight problem...
 
2014-01-17 06:17:47 PM  

GrailOfThunder: When the powers the be want to discuss completely getting rid of tobacco and alcohol, then maybe I could agree on obesity. But addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.


That's an interesting point.  It's OK to socially stigmatize people who smoke, or drink too much, but when it comes to destructive eating/diet habits, somehow that's off-limits.
 
2014-01-17 06:18:00 PM  
tl;dr
 
2014-01-17 06:19:33 PM  

GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?

And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.

She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x793]

Alcohol still costs the U.S. far more, yet I don't hear people screaming for anything to be done about it.

It's just the price we pay for living in the U.S. Why should being overweight be any different?

When the powers the be want to discuss completely getting rid of tobacco and alcohol, then maybe I could agree on obesity. But addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.

The 3 largest expenditures in health care are the above 3, btw.. Alcohol is #1, Obesity is #2, Smoking is #3.  Smokers already pay more for their health care. Maybe we should just start charging people "by the pound" for health care as well. Can't really think of a way to charge people extra "by the drink" though..


I've read that alcohol is the "third leading lifestyle-related cause of death" but I haven't seen that it is the #1 largest addition to health care costs. Do you have a citation (I'm not doubting you, just want to see it).

Isn't alcohol (like tobacco) heavily taxed?
 
2014-01-17 06:21:12 PM  
American needs more fat shaming.  It's a disease, not a life choice.
 
2014-01-17 06:21:59 PM  

Moopy Mac: GreenSun: Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!

And let's just disregard the whole genetic argument. The human species has not evolved that much over the last fifty years.


But those who had a similar sedentary lifestyle and access to unhealthy food in the past (the aristocracy) also had weight issues.  History has plenty of fat ass monarchs.  Society is what has evolved in the past 50 years and I think it leaves some brains struggling a bit to get a healthy relationship with unlimited food and sedentary lifestyles.  Humans used to have to struggle to get food.  Humans used to get all the exercise they needed trying to survive.

/struggling a bit does not come anywhere close to equaling impossible
 
2014-01-17 06:24:09 PM  

GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.


Only if they successfully demand that you pay for their healthcare.

Or you could be one of those folks who thinks you owe healthcare to everyone, and consequently you get a say in their lifestyle choices. Which is essentially claiming that you own them in some way.
 
2014-01-17 06:24:45 PM  

comslave: American needs more fat shaming.  It's a disease, not a life choice.


i was born this way

/some are born fat, some achieve fatness, and some have fatness thrust upon them
 
2014-01-17 06:25:19 PM  
People are obese for one simple reason: they don't make living a healthy lifestyle a priority,
They'll spend hours a day on the Internet or Facebook, but "don't have the time to cook healthy meals". They'll watch TV or play video games for hours, but "don't have the time to go for a daily half hour walk". They'll eat out at fast food restaurants every day, even though they know they shouldn't.

It's not genetics, it's not thyroid conditions, it's not evolution, it's not HFCS... it's simply a matter or priorities...
 
2014-01-17 06:25:23 PM  

12349876: Moopy Mac: GreenSun: Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!

And let's just disregard the whole genetic argument. The human species has not evolved that much over the last fifty years.

But those who had a similar sedentary lifestyle and access to unhealthy food in the past (the aristocracy) also had weight issues.  History has plenty of fat ass monarchs.  Society is what has evolved in the past 50 years and I think it leaves some brains struggling a bit to get a healthy relationship with unlimited food and sedentary lifestyles.  Humans used to have to struggle to get food.  Humans used to get all the exercise they needed trying to survive.

/struggling a bit does not come anywhere close to equaling impossible


50 years ago (no poor) people weren't getting all the exercise they needed just trying to survive. They just ate less, walked more and ate less HFCS.

But again, there hasn't been any measurable change to human genetics over the last 50 years.
 
2014-01-17 06:29:17 PM  

baconbeard: People are obese for one simple reason: they don't make living a healthy lifestyle a priority,
They'll spend hours a day on the Internet or Facebook, but "don't have the time to cook healthy meals". They'll watch TV or play video games for hours, but "don't have the time to go for a daily half hour walk". They'll eat out at fast food restaurants every day, even though they know they shouldn't.

It's not genetics, it's not thyroid conditions, it's not evolution, it's not HFCS... it's simply a matter or priorities...


There are the outliers, but yes, for the most part it is personal responsibility. But good luck actually getting an obese person to accept that.
 
2014-01-17 06:29:45 PM  

JesseL: Only if they successfully demand that you pay for their healthcare.

 
I'm a healthy person in an insurance pool, so yes, I'm paying for their healthcare.
 
2014-01-17 06:30:36 PM  

Moopy Mac: GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?

And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.

She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

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Alcohol still costs the U.S. far more, yet I don't hear people screaming for anything to be done about it.

It's just the price we pay for living in the U.S. Why should being overweight be any different?

When the powers the be want to discuss completely getting rid of tobacco and alcohol, then maybe I could agree on obesity. But addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.

The 3 largest expenditures in health care are the above 3, btw.. Alcohol is #1, Obesity is #2, Smoking is #3.  Smokers already pay more for their health care. Maybe we should just start charging people "by the pound" for health care as well. Can't really think of a way to charge people extra "by the drink" though..

I've read that alcohol is the "third leading lifestyle-related cause of death" but I haven't seen that it is the #1 largest addition to health care costs. Do you have a citation (I'm not doubting you, just want to see it).

Isn't alcohol (like tobacco) heavily taxed?


It's been a while since I looked it up, but it was a report from the CDC a few years ago.. The numbers may have changed a bit since then, but it was like Alcohol cost the U.S. some $230+ Billion a year, Obesity cost the U.S. $170+ billion a year, and tobacco was just under Obesity. If I get some time later I'll see if I can find newer numbers.
 
2014-01-17 06:30:37 PM  

Moopy Mac: 12349876: Moopy Mac: GreenSun: Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!

And let's just disregard the whole genetic argument. The human species has not evolved that much over the last fifty years.

But those who had a similar sedentary lifestyle and access to unhealthy food in the past (the aristocracy) also had weight issues.  History has plenty of fat ass monarchs.  Society is what has evolved in the past 50 years and I think it leaves some brains struggling a bit to get a healthy relationship with unlimited food and sedentary lifestyles.  Humans used to have to struggle to get food.  Humans used to get all the exercise they needed trying to survive.

/struggling a bit does not come anywhere close to equaling impossible

50 years ago (no poor) people weren't getting all the exercise they needed just trying to survive. They just ate less, walked more and ate less HFCS.

But again, there hasn't been any measurable change to human genetics over the last 50 years.


They ate less because food was more expensive.  They exercised more because there were more factory workers and only one car per household and less stranger danger and services that were nearby.  And they ate less HFCS because it had just been invented and not yet put into large scale production.

I'm not arguing humans have evolved in the past 50 years.  I'm arguing they HAVEN'T, and that why genetics are an issue, society is evolving much faster.
 
2014-01-17 06:33:35 PM  

nucal:


This
 
2014-01-17 06:34:44 PM  
I've always supported her and her message, but her 15 minutes are about up.
Can we get some new hot moms to post photos for fat chicks to complain about (and me to fap to)?

I like looking at my fat cousin's Facebook posts sometimes, though.  She went straight from criticism of Fit Mom to a picture of a cake that was filled with skittles and captioned "Somebody make this for me!"  Seriously, if you're too lazy to make your own skittlecake, you probably shouldn't be eating one
 
2014-01-17 06:39:23 PM  

GrailOfThunder: Moopy Mac: GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?

And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.

She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x793]

Alcohol still costs the U.S. far more, yet I don't hear people screaming for anything to be done about it.

It's just the price we pay for living in the U.S. Why should being overweight be any different?

When the powers the be want to discuss completely getting rid of tobacco and alcohol, then maybe I could agree on obesity. But addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.

The 3 largest expenditures in health care are the above 3, btw.. Alcohol is #1, Obesity is #2, Smoking is #3.  Smokers already pay more for their health care. Maybe we should just start charging people "by the pound" for health care as well. Can't really think of a way to charge people extra "by the drink" though..

I've read that alcohol is the "third leading lifestyle-related cause of death" but I haven't seen that it is the #1 largest addition to health care costs. Do you have a citation (I'm not doubting you, just want to see it).

Isn't alcohol (like tobacco) heavily taxed?

It's been a while since I looked it up, but it was a report from the CDC a few years ago.. The numbers may have changed a bit since then, but it was like Alcohol cost the U.S. some $230+ Billion a year, Obesity cost the U.S. $170+ billion a year, and tobacco was just under Obesity. If I get some time later I'll see if I can find newer numbers.


And of course, as soon as I post that, I find an article on Forbes that links to a study done by the Dutch Ministry of Health that states that Smokers, Obesity and Alcoholics actually cost the health care system LESS over their lifetimes due to their shortened lifespans..

Not sure how I feel about that.
 
2014-01-17 06:39:33 PM  

ZAZ: TUESDAY, NOV 26, 2013 4:58 PM UTC

You're not supposed to care any more.


static.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-17 06:39:45 PM  
Wow, the headline actually matched my inner monologue.
 
2014-01-17 06:39:46 PM  

12349876: I'm not arguing humans have evolved in the past 50 years. I'm arguing they HAVEN'T, and that why genetics are an issue, society is evolving much faster.


Ah, so it's the scientists who are to blame for people being fat, because they haven't figured out a way to re-engineer our bodies to thrive on gluttony and hedonism.
 
2014-01-17 06:41:00 PM  
imagizer.imageshack.us
As a result of reading this stupid article I was led to read the earlier article, then to look up images of Fit Mom, then, much to my regret, images of "curvies", which I had never heard of before.
A lot of the women are attractive, but I don't want to sit next to them on a long flight.
 
2014-01-17 06:44:23 PM  

GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?

And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.

She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x793]

Alcohol still costs the U.S. far more, yet I don't hear people screaming for anything to be done about it.

It's just the price we pay for living in the U.S. Why should being overweight be any different?

When the powers the be want to discuss completely getting rid of tobacco and alcohol, then maybe I could agree on obesity. But addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.

The 3 largest expenditures in health care are the above 3, btw.. Alcohol is #1, Obesity is #2, Smoking is #3.  Smokers already pay more for their health care. Maybe we should just start charging people "by the pound" for health care as well. Can't really think of a way to charge people extra "by the drink" though..


Maybe not by the pound but by percentage body fat.  The BMI thing is stupid.  And I can handle increased taxes on booze to cover health care costs.

But instead of targeting junk food which even us health non-fatties enjoy from time to time we can go directly to the fatties and impose a % body fat surcharge on their helaht care premium and allow grace periods for things like pregnancy and other medical reasons..  But because you had a kid two years ago would not be an excuse to be fat now.
 
2014-01-17 06:44:28 PM  
It's a war on fit people, like the customer at the local donut shop who to buy a bottle of water, sit at a table by the register sipping it with their two-year-old giving it how-to-be-a-biatch lessons by insulting everyone buying one or more actual donuts. "You gonna eat that dozen all at once?"

They had the temerity to ask her to stop it or leave and drink the water elsewhere!
 
2014-01-17 06:45:04 PM  

theMightyRegeya: [i5.asn.im image 420x482]

Stop judging me!  I can be healthy at any size!  It's a glandular issue!


I hate you by the way...this image is comment number 51, so when viewing in 50 post format this image is first...EVERY TIME.
 
2014-01-17 06:46:43 PM  

WhyKnot: theMightyRegeya: [i5.asn.im image 420x482]

Stop judging me!  I can be healthy at any size!  It's a glandular issue!

I hate you by the way...this image is comment number 51, so when viewing in 50 post format this image is first...EVERY TIME.


files.myopera.com
 
2014-01-17 06:47:54 PM  

GoldSpider: JesseL: Only if they successfully demand that you pay for their healthcare.
 
I'm a healthy person in an insurance pool, so yes, I'm paying for their healthcare.


Would you have some objection to moving them to a higher risk pool?
 
2014-01-17 06:49:53 PM  
She may be "fit" but she's been beaten with an ugly stick on several occasions and she's a narcissistic moron (so she fits in on FB).
 
2014-01-17 06:49:54 PM  

megarian: Can't really fix derp eyes.


She has a face suitable for the take-out window.
 
2014-01-17 06:50:04 PM  

JesseL: Would you have some objection to moving them to a higher risk pool?


In the same way smokers are?  That sounds reasonable to me.
 
2014-01-17 06:50:31 PM  

nucal: [www.demotivation.us image 600x770]


I'm willing to see how long I can tolerate her.
 
2014-01-17 06:51:13 PM  

JesseL: GoldSpider: JesseL: Only if they successfully demand that you pay for their healthcare.
 
I'm a healthy person in an insurance pool, so yes, I'm paying for their healthcare.

Would you have some objection to moving them to a higher risk pool?


Oddly enough, when I was looking at the images of "curvies" I thought about pools and how many of them would win a cannonball contest.
 
2014-01-17 06:52:39 PM  

GoldSpider: WhyKnot: theMightyRegeya: [i5.asn.im image 420x482]

Stop judging me!  I can be healthy at any size!  It's a glandular issue!

I hate you by the way...this image is comment number 51, so when viewing in 50 post format this image is first...EVERY TIME.

[files.myopera.com image 451x309]


Dammit!!!   Just went back to page 2 to see a picture of "fit mom" and that damn cake monster was there waiting for me.
 
2014-01-17 06:53:41 PM  

serial_crusher: 12349876: I'm not arguing humans have evolved in the past 50 years. I'm arguing they HAVEN'T, and that why genetics are an issue, society is evolving much faster.

Ah, so it's the scientists who are to blame for people being fat, because they haven't figured out a way to re-engineer our bodies to thrive on gluttony and hedonism.


Not at all.  If you read all my posts in this thread, I've stated this is a difficulty not a death sentence.  Some people can eat whatever they want and maintain good weight, some people have to be incredibly disciplined with their eating and exercise, there's only a teeny tiny sliver of people who are doomed to be fat.
 
2014-01-17 06:55:47 PM  

WhyKnot: GoldSpider: WhyKnot: theMightyRegeya: [i5.asn.im image 420x482]

Stop judging me!  I can be healthy at any size!  It's a glandular issue!

I hate you by the way...this image is comment number 51, so when viewing in 50 post format this image is first...EVERY TIME.

[files.myopera.com image 451x309]

Dammit!!!   Just went back to page 2 to see a picture of "fit mom" and that damn cake monster was there waiting for me.


Well, you're a terrible monster and you should feel ashamed of yourself.

She's big and beautiful.

/this thread needs more eyebleach
 
2014-01-17 06:56:09 PM  
I'll dial back the scorn and shaming etc. by acknowledging the fact that the only one who can make you change your lifestyle is you.  I didn't stop spending hours on my ass playing WoW and eating shiat because my girlfriend nagged me about it.
 
2014-01-17 06:57:02 PM  

gaslight: This is beyond stupid. A person who exercises is being shamed for not being...what? Fat? Her message 'what's your excuse' is somehow demeaning? Okay, allow me to substitute some other images for a busy mom who's making a point to try living a healthy life despite being busy because apparently that's too hard for most people.
[metrouk2.files.wordpress.com image 466x508]
What's your excuse?

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Pfft. I could lose 30lbs real quick if I had my legs cut off too.
 
2014-01-17 06:57:53 PM  
For most of us Curvies, we will have rolls, bumps, lumps, scars, stretch marks, surgery scars, breasts that are natural and that have breast fed our babies.

YUM!! Way to make a point?
 
2014-01-17 06:58:01 PM  

This About That: Fat shaming is bad for business on Facebook.


Came here to say this
 
2014-01-17 07:02:03 PM  

tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.


Eh, no. If you look at what she called "Obesity", it's not talking about having a few extra pounds or even 20. These people were obviously, unhealithly overweight. And she's right. Normalizing obesity is one of the worst things we can do.
 
2014-01-17 07:02:29 PM  
Subby: well, YOU brought it up.
 
2014-01-17 07:07:23 PM  
I love all the hate that gets heaped on "fit mom" for being ugly.

Nana's Vibrator: While on the show (in November) you weren't working out nor were you raising your children properly.  And now, because of the rules, you shall be known as Unfit Mom.


eviljimbo: she's got bug-eyes... cant diet those away


megarian: Can't really fix derp eyes.


OhioUGrad: She may be "fit" but she's been beaten with an ugly stick on several occasions and she's a narcissistic moron (so she fits in on FB).


Agent Smiths Laugh: She has a face suitable for the take-out window.


I gladly await pictures of the gods or goddesses that grace your arm when you go out.

funny how people that get upset about being called out for being fat (something they have control over) take shots at her looks (something she doesn't have control over).    So not only is there cognitive dissidence about their own weight, they are petty and mean about things she can't change....I honestly don't know which is worse.
 
2014-01-17 07:08:39 PM  

tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.

So, ignore her.

Help the Facebook mods solve real crimes/dilemmas, please.


Well it is a hate crime, do you know how bad fat women have it in today's world!!!?

There is actually a tumble site called This is This Privilege which lets whales biatch about how they are oppressed because of fat. They say its a medical condition and they can't get under 200 lbs.
 
2014-01-17 07:09:22 PM  
In England, you have to pay a tax if your car is not "green".  However, having a morbidly obese person in a car that is otherwise considered "green" causes it to lose its fuel efficiency to the point where it is no longer green.

Conclusion:  If we're going to tax cars based on how green or not green they are, shouldn't we do the same for people?
 
2014-01-17 07:10:42 PM  
author looks like a dog...  i see the hate now
 
2014-01-17 07:11:08 PM  

WhyKnot: funny how people that get upset about being called out for being fat (something they have control over) take shots at her looks (something she doesn't have control over).    So not only is there cognitive dissidence about their own weight, they are petty and mean about things she can't change....I honestly don't know which is worse.


Even more ironic since you can't typically hop on a treadmill to fix an unfortunate face.
 
2014-01-17 07:16:52 PM  
iamsocruel.files.wordpress.com

FIT MOM FIT MOM FIT MOM
 
2014-01-17 07:17:47 PM  

WhyKnot: funny how people that get upset about being called out for being fat (something they have control over) take shots at her looks (something she doesn't have control over). So not only is there cognitive dissidence about their own weight, they are petty and mean about things she can't change....I honestly don't know which is worse.


there are plenty of people who don't have control over their weight (perhaps you should read up on the subject). The females I've dated have all been much more attractive than her (and I don't care if you believe it or not), she's putting herself out there as a holier than thou authority....I have no problem reminding her that she is ugly (inside and out).

/been underweight most of my life
 
2014-01-17 07:18:32 PM  

baconbeard: People are obese for one simple reason: they don't make living a healthy lifestyle a priority,
They'll spend hours a day on the Internet or Facebook, but "don't have the time to cook healthy meals". They'll watch TV or play video games for hours, but "don't have the time to go for a daily half hour walk". They'll eat out at fast food restaurants every day, even though they know they shouldn't.

It's not genetics, it's not thyroid conditions, it's not evolution, it's not HFCS... it's simply a matter or priorities...


Or it's a spinal injury that doesn't *seem* that bad to the observer but requires painkillers to sleep for more than two/three hours, and even then the pain doesn't fully go away. Plus it causes all kinds of other fun issues with the body. Of your list, I am guilty of internet and computer games, but that's usually after I can't stand up anymore for the day.

Yaaay ~25% disability...
 
2014-01-17 07:23:08 PM  
OhioUGrad: there are plenty of people who don't have control over their weight

How much of that is because they never try?
 
2014-01-17 07:23:29 PM  

hasty ambush: Maybe not by the pound but by percentage body fat.  The BMI thing is stupid.  And I can handle increased taxes on booze to cover health care costs.

But instead of targeting junk food which even us health non-fatties enjoy from time to time we can go directly to the fatties and impose a % body fat surcharge on their helaht care premium and allow grace periods for things like pregnancy and other medical reasons..  But because you had a kid two years ago would not be an excuse to be fat now.


You don't think that would cause a whole host of OTHER problems though? Such as bulimia, anorexia, other eating disorders, depression, perhaps even suicidal tendencies? "Fat shaming" already causes enough of that, making obesity even *more* anti-social would just exacerbate the problem, IMO.

Women, especially young(er) ones, are already faced with enough pressure on "having the perfect body" - and we already know the affects it's having on these women as they grow up. We sit here and call out the people that shame them because the (bullied girls) don't have the perfect "Thigh Gap", yet on the other side of the coin we're going to biatch about people being overweight? We're hypocrites.
 
2014-01-17 07:24:41 PM  
People claiming that she has an unfortunate/asymmetric/unattractive face are fronting.  She's cute as a button.

/has to be at gym in 26 minutes
//to redeem my White Knight points with Ms. Kang
 
2014-01-17 07:25:04 PM  

GoldSpider: WhyKnot: theMightyRegeya: [i5.asn.im image 420x482]

Stop judging me!  I can be healthy at any size!  It's a glandular issue!

I hate you by the way...this image is comment number 51, so when viewing in 50 post format this image is first...EVERY TIME.

[files.myopera.com image 451x309]


Damn, you just missed 101
 
2014-01-17 07:26:33 PM  

JesseL: GoldSpider: JesseL: Only if they successfully demand that you pay for their healthcare.
 
I'm a healthy person in an insurance pool, so yes, I'm paying for their healthcare.

Would you have some objection to moving them to a higher risk pool?


Ah, the beauty of Obamacare.  We are now all lumped into one giant risk pool.
 
2014-01-17 07:29:50 PM  

Banned on the Run: Damn, you just missed 101


*click*  GAAAHH!!  Next page quick!!  *click*  GAAAAAAAHH!!  :)  Dammit.
 
2014-01-17 07:31:33 PM  

theMightyRegeya: WhyKnot: GoldSpider: WhyKnot: theMightyRegeya: [i5.asn.im image 420x482]

Stop judging me!  I can be healthy at any size!  It's a glandular issue!

I hate you by the way...this image is comment number 51, so when viewing in 50 post format this image is first...EVERY TIME.

[files.myopera.com image 451x309]

Dammit!!!   Just went back to page 2 to see a picture of "fit mom" and that damn cake monster was there waiting for me.

Well, you're a terrible monster and you should feel ashamed of yourself.

She's big and beautiful.

/this thread needs more eyebleach


Agreed.

i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-17 07:32:09 PM  
i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-17 07:34:14 PM  
i216.photobucket.com

I knew this woman when she was 30 pounds heavier after her fourth kid.
She got her ass in the gym and wants to know what your excuse is as well.
 
2014-01-17 07:34:41 PM  

GrailOfThunder: You don't think that would cause a whole host of OTHER problems though? Such as bulimia, anorexia, other eating disorders, depression, perhaps even suicidal tendencies? "Fat shaming" already causes enough of that, making obesity even *more* anti-social would just exacerbate the problem, IMO.

Women, especially young(er) ones, are already faced with enough pressure on "having the perfect body" - and we already know the affects it's having on these women as they grow up. We sit here and call out the people that shame them because the (bullied girls) don't have the perfect "Thigh Gap", yet on the other side of the coin we're going to biatch about people being overweight? We're hypocrites.


You, like Fit Mom, have taken things a bit too far.  But Fit Mom needs to keep her mouth shut just as much as the fat people need to.  I get it, fat people know they are fat, they have plenty of pressures on them and they don't need constant reminding and shaming.  So stop telling them they're fat.  But the fat people feel that way because:  Being fat is unhealthy.  Part of what Fit Mom is biatching about is fat people are trying to make being fat something to be proud of.  You should not be proud that you are fat.  You can call it curvy all you like, fat is fat.

There is a good sized range of healthy weights.  But there are a lot of women who are morbidly obese who are pushing back as if that is something to be proud of.  It's not.
 
2014-01-17 07:35:07 PM  
i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-17 07:36:16 PM  
Fit can be curvy, too.

i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-17 07:37:01 PM  
i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-17 07:37:44 PM  
i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-17 07:38:56 PM  

Banned on the Run: [i216.photobucket.com image 480x640]


148bcec7bb334341cd98-2fb779bd12ec72d4612275342f2c9187.r31.cf1.rackcdn.com
 
2014-01-17 07:39:07 PM  
i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-17 07:44:01 PM  

GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

The My Little Pony Killer: No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?

Lost 35 lbs. and have since run three half-marathons, so I have plenty to feel pretty awesome about.


If that's the case, then your running is my business, and you're at substantially greater risk of injury running than using machines at a properly supervised gym. Please cease running immediately.
 
2014-01-17 07:44:06 PM  

GoldSpider: OhioUGrad: there are plenty of people who don't have control over their weight

How much of that is because they never try?


Probably no way to really find out, but when I worked in a pharmacy one of our top drugs was synthroid and thyroid problems can be a big contributor to weight issues (under and over).
 
2014-01-17 07:48:29 PM  

OhioUGrad: GoldSpider: OhioUGrad: there are plenty of people who don't have control over their weight

How much of that is because they never try?

Probably no way to really find out, but when I worked in a pharmacy one of our top drugs was synthroid and thyroid problems can be a big contributor to weight issues (under and over).


How was it compared to high blood pressure medication?
 
2014-01-17 07:49:32 PM  

lennavan: GrailOfThunder: You don't think that would cause a whole host of OTHER problems though? Such as bulimia, anorexia, other eating disorders, depression, perhaps even suicidal tendencies? "Fat shaming" already causes enough of that, making obesity even *more* anti-social would just exacerbate the problem, IMO.

Women, especially young(er) ones, are already faced with enough pressure on "having the perfect body" - and we already know the affects it's having on these women as they grow up. We sit here and call out the people that shame them because the (bullied girls) don't have the perfect "Thigh Gap", yet on the other side of the coin we're going to biatch about people being overweight? We're hypocrites.

You, like Fit Mom, have taken things a bit too far.  But Fit Mom needs to keep her mouth shut just as much as the fat people need to.  I get it, fat people know they are fat, they have plenty of pressures on them and they don't need constant reminding and shaming.  So stop telling them they're fat.  But the fat people feel that way because:  Being fat is unhealthy.  Part of what Fit Mom is biatching about is fat people are trying to make being fat something to be proud of.  You should not be proud that you are fat.  You can call it curvy all you like, fat is fat.

There is a good sized range of healthy weights.  But there are a lot of women who are morbidly obese who are pushing back as if that is something to be proud of.  It's not.


You're right, of course. Being overweight is unhealthy, and you shouldn't be "proud" to be fat.  But TBH, I don't think I've ever heard someone say "I'm proud to be fat". (If you're proud of it, then why are you dieting?)

I've heard people say "I know I'm fat, I've just accepted it at this point", or "I'm fat, but I'm happy", but I can't honestly say I've heard someone say they were *proud* of it (at least not with a straight face). :)
 
2014-01-17 07:52:09 PM  

theMightyRegeya: "Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.

Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely* to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.


*to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

:\
 
2014-01-17 07:52:48 PM  
Just came to say that subby's headline made me laugh.  Nice job.
 
2014-01-17 07:53:10 PM  
 
2014-01-17 07:54:09 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-17 07:54:55 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-17 07:56:13 PM  

tlars699: theMightyRegeya: "Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.

Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely* to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.

*to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

:\


The full disclosure changes the equation. Working at a gym as a fitness instructor allows her the time to do that. It would be like Arnold Schwarzenegger during his bodybuilding days chastising an office drone for not being as ripped as he is. If you have the time, great, if not -- at least change your eating habits.
 
2014-01-17 07:58:32 PM  
 
2014-01-17 07:59:19 PM  

GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.


That's a straw man argument.  By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)

In that regard, I have to agree with MLPK. I pay my dues, and don't worry about what risks the rest of the country is taking. I have enough going on in my OWN life to keep me busy without worrying about everyone else. :)
 
2014-01-17 07:59:43 PM  

Kahabut: tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.


Nope.  You're being ridiculous.  WE ARE NORMALIZING OBESITY.  In fact, it's already done.   There is nothing what so ever judgmental about that, nor is it conceited to point it out to others.

Just because YOU are too ignorant to know what most of those words mean, and how they apply to the real world doesn't make it judgmental or conceited in the slightest.  It just makes you an idiot.

What needs to happen here is that we need to tell people that are unhappy with their bodies that it is THEIR GOD DAMN FAULT, and if they don't like it, they should do something about it.  There is nothing wrong with making people take responsibility for their actions (or lack of).

It also wouldn't hurt for people to give a few less farks what other people think about the way they look.  But so many of the people complaining here are the same kind that buy all the fashion magazines, and people, and whatever and then lament the media projected image of sexy.  Stop consuming the media, and all the sudden your self image is improved... AMAZING.

/all that being said, I like some curves
//that kang woman looks good... for a 12 year old.
///overweight


The fark are you on about?
If I shouldn't care what other people think about my body, then how is announcing what I think of other peoples' bodies to those other people, without being asked for my criticism, not judgmental nor conceited?

I farking hate your haircut.
Did you ask me about that? No? Too farking bad! I had to tell you that I do, because I'm trying to save you from your poor hair choices.

How the fark is the above any farking different from what she farking did?

/my curves are not for you.
 
2014-01-17 07:59:49 PM  

Banned on the Run: [25.media.tumblr.com image 478x200]


Is she swimming past a corpse?
 
2014-01-17 08:05:34 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Banned on the Run: [25.media.tumblr.com image 478x200]

Is she swimming past a corpse?


Possibly. According to TinEye, that's from one of Jessica Alba's movies.. Haven't figured out which one yet though.
 
2014-01-17 08:13:01 PM  

12349876: Moopy Mac: 12349876: Moopy Mac: GreenSun: Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!

And let's just disregard the whole genetic argument. The human species has not evolved that much over the last fifty years.

But those who had a similar sedentary lifestyle and access to unhealthy food in the past (the aristocracy) also had weight issues.  History has plenty of fat ass monarchs.  Society is what has evolved in the past 50 years and I think it leaves some brains struggling a bit to get a healthy relationship with unlimited food and sedentary lifestyles.  Humans used to have to struggle to get food.  Humans used to get all the exercise they needed trying to survive.

/struggling a bit does not come anywhere close to equaling impossible

50 years ago (no poor) people weren't getting all the exercise they needed just trying to survive. They just ate less, walked more and ate less HFCS.

But again, there hasn't been any measurable change to human genetics over the last 50 years.

They ate less because food was more expensive.  They exercised more because there were more factory workers and only one car per household and less stranger danger and services that were nearby.  And they ate less HFCS because it had just been invented and not yet put into large scale production.

I'm not arguing humans have evolved in the past 50 years.  I'm arguing they HAVEN'T, and that why genetics are an issue, society is evolving much faster.


I think I agree with you. On average it may be more difficult to be "not fat" now than it was 50 years ago.
 
2014-01-17 08:15:38 PM  

steamingpile: tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.

So, ignore her.

Help the Facebook mods solve real crimes/dilemmas, please.

Well it is a hate crime, do you know how bad fat women have it in today's world!!!?

There is actually a tumble site called This is This Privilege which lets whales biatch about how they are oppressed because of fat. They say its a medical condition and they can't get under 200 lbs.


You realize of course, that hormones actually contribute to weight problems? As in if you out yourself on a restrictive diet, that your body starts fighting you by activating the hunger signals in your brain and that these do not shut off unless you gain the weight back or even more so?

I mean, it doesn't mean you should stop trying,  but shaming somebody for being fat, when they're doing their damnedest doesn't help- it hurts.
No matter how hard they try, how much they do, the only way for them to be thinner is to go for gastric bypass, or endure harsh criticism. Most of them say 'why bother putting in the effort if nobody recognizes my efforts?' and give up saying this is how they are.

Now for a real way to judge the fitness of a person, have them run 5 miles. If they can't do it without some other health constraint, not fit. If they can, then they're fit. End of story.
 
2014-01-17 08:17:24 PM  

GrailOfThunder: GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

That's a straw man argument.  By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)

In that regard, I have to agree with MLPK. I pay my dues, and don't worry about what risks the rest of the country is taking. I have enough going on in my OWN life to keep me busy without worrying about everyone else. :)


And welcome to bankruptcy.
 
2014-01-17 08:18:25 PM  
WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE FARK I'M SUPPOSED TO CARE?

Thank you, Subby.

However, there is a difference between 'normal' and 'fat'. Normal is not fat. No rolls, lumps, bumps, jiggly bits, wads of cellulite, double chins, triple chins, obvious muffin tops or double wide arses.

Nor is it ripped abs, wiry, long muscles, sculpted butts, defined biceps, not an ounce of extra fat, lean face and the ability to do one handed push-ups.

Just, well, normal. Usually cute, easy on the eye, pleasant to hold. Just enough additional 'padding' to round out the sharp edges.

Not a soccer mom and not a couch potato. Someone whose face doesn't droop uncontrollably into a frown because of the additional fat around the mouth nor settles into a grim, thin lipped straight line because of taunt muscles.

Doesn't wear 'mom jeans' nor 'jogging shorts or sweats' all of the time. Can actually wear something on her feet other than oversized, training sneakers or cheap, rubber 'skuffs'.

Maybe look back on the 60s and 70s and see what 'normal' looked like.

Probably the late 60s, when people still did a lot of physical exercise in normal everyday life that did not require a gym. Supersize had not hit the fast food places by then and you could not find a national chain greaseburger on every block.

No one had even heard of a 'jogging stroller' and would not have any idea of what it was. Fried cheese, candy bars and ice cream had not even been thought of. You saw fat folks, but they were usually over 50 and you rarely saw anyone so fat they needed a power chair to move around.
 
2014-01-17 08:19:24 PM  

OhioUGrad: WhyKnot: funny how people that get upset about being called out for being fat (something they have control over) take shots at her looks (something she doesn't have control over). So not only is there cognitive dissidence about their own weight, they are petty and mean about things she can't change....I honestly don't know which is worse.

there are plenty of people who don't have control over their weight (perhaps you should read up on the subject). The females I've dated have all been much more attractive than her (and I don't care if you believe it or not), she's putting herself out there as a holier than thou authority....I have no problem reminding her that she is ugly (inside and out).

/been underweight most of my life


There are not "plenty of people who don't have control over their weight" relative to the population. That is BS and history has shown that to be BS.
 
2014-01-17 08:26:21 PM  
i.imgur.com

No shame there.
 
2014-01-17 08:27:14 PM  
sploosh!
 
2014-01-17 08:32:18 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-17 08:38:25 PM  

dbrunker: [img.fark.net image 600x600]


If this were true I'd be beating off women with a stick, instead of just beating off.
 
2014-01-17 08:48:16 PM  

GrailOfThunder: abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else

No they're not. But they will be at some point.


Or they'll be discriminated against like smokers.

Put down the big gulp lard butt
 
2014-01-17 08:56:07 PM  
Most moms who are fit were fit before they had kids.

/Would split her and her kind like an oak log.
 
2014-01-17 08:59:02 PM  

lewismarktwo: Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.


errr no
Their deaths tend to be quite expensive medically, as with smokers (I am) and drinkers (I am)

// does not hate fat people, but they are kind of repulsive to look at (my choice)
/ pro - choice. Let everyone live their life the way they want to - if it does not affect you, leave them alone
 
2014-01-17 09:08:37 PM  

GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.


What is your point?  Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?
 
2014-01-17 09:14:57 PM  

GrailOfThunder: By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)


Except the number of obese people in this country outnumber the other groups you mentioned by several orders of magnitude.  "Same token" indeed.
 
2014-01-17 09:15:49 PM  

Frederick: What is your point? Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?


As someone upthread suggested, make them pay a higher premium just like other high-risk demographics.
 
2014-01-17 09:16:54 PM  

sharphead: See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.


Yes, in our time of record obesity, THOSE are the only reasons that people are fat. It's also very curious that there seem to be a lot of people suddenly developing big bones, thyroid conditions, depression, and all sorts of other conditions that magically turn people into blimps.
 
2014-01-17 09:33:59 PM  
Wow. When did Fark get so fat?
 
2014-01-17 09:35:32 PM  

Banned on the Run: [i216.photobucket.com image 597x899]

I knew this woman when she was 30 pounds heavier after her fourth kid.
She got her ass in the gym and wants to know what your excuse is as well.


It's amazing what an Oompa Loompa can look like after a lot of hard work. Still didn't change the skin colour though.
 
2014-01-17 09:43:30 PM  

GoldSpider: Frederick: What is your point? Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?

As someone upthread suggested, make them pay a higher premium just like other high-risk demographics.


Sounds troublesome.
What sort of scale would be used?  It's not a binary condition like smoking.  How fat is too fat?  Is the insurance company going to weigh customers frequently?  What about fat people with no measurable health issues?  For example my 5k times are better than a lot of thin people I know...
 
2014-01-17 10:00:29 PM  
Vanity has never accomplishing anything but self improvement and fools you to think its a noble pursuit.
 
2014-01-17 10:02:10 PM  

abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else


Living up to your name, I see
 
2014-01-17 10:08:35 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: /Would split her and her kind like an oak log.



i3.mirror.co.uk

Why would you do that???
 
2014-01-17 10:11:25 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Most moms who are fit were fit before they had kids.

/Would split her and her kind like an oak log.


Meh.. after 3 kids? I kinda doubt that. :)
 
2014-01-17 10:13:44 PM  
Subby, we should care because hot women who dress in skimpy clothes should be encouraged.
They should be encouraged long and hard.  But with a gentle, sensitive approach.
 
2014-01-17 10:15:43 PM  

GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

The My Little Pony Killer: No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?

Lost 35 lbs. and have since run three half-marathons, so I have plenty to feel pretty awesome about.


Now just fix up that whole "being a massive dick" thing and you're all set!
 
2014-01-17 10:16:22 PM  

GoldSpider: Frederick: What is your point? Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?

As someone upthread suggested, make them pay a higher premium just like other high-risk demographics.


I fully support this, especially for people who have cancer run in their family.  Or people whose parents and grandparents die before 90.
 
2014-01-17 10:17:21 PM  

Captain Dan: It's not helpful to say "you're fat."  No shiat, the fat person knows that.  Better to offer specific advice.

- Don't eat fast food.  McDonalds, Burger King, etc... that stuff is horrible for you.

- Try to exercise every day, even if only for a short while.  Even 5-10 minutes is much better than nothing.

- Skip sugary drinks: regular sodas, fruit juices, etc.; and try to minimize very sugary foods/desserts.

- Don't give up.  Unless you're Samoan or have thyroid problems, you can control your weight.  It requires perseverance, though.  Instead of viewing healthy food as a short-term plan (e.g. "30 day diet"), try to make it a normal part of your life.  Once you make it a habit, it's easy.  Your taste buds will adapt to the stuff you currently think is bland.


Bull shiat. That assumes that obesity is some sort of black magic and that it's a mystery how to get healthy. It isn't. Everyone knows. They just choose to make excuses rather than sacrifices.
 
2014-01-17 10:22:44 PM  

Lusiphur: Bull shiat. That assumes that obesity is some sort of black magic and that it's a mystery how to get healthy. It isn't. Everyone knows. They just choose to make excuses rather than sacrifices.


There's plenty that people intellectually "know" to do, but forget in the hustle of day-to-day life.  So instead of berating them, which won't help, it's better to remind them often, to encourage them, to be a good role model.
 
2014-01-17 10:28:12 PM  

GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [deleted for brevity]

......addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.



BULLsheesh. You are full of crap.

Addiction to alcohol or tobacco is 'I *need* it.'.

On the other hand, every living human being needs food. What you do NOT need is an amazing stupendous taste sensation that makes every taste bud in your mouth - and those in the next timezone over as well - explode with a fury of excitement and agonizing joy in anticipation of the next bite.

There is no such thing as an 'addiction to food'. Food is absolutely essential for ALL living creatures - what you are addicted to is gluttony and sauces and sugar. You need to stop pigging out at One meal and then not eating for 6-8 hrs. You need to re-examine when to give yourself a treat..... also, 'what' to call a treat. Try to look at cake and pie as a once-per-month treat; maybe just one donut or one cookie per week. I allow myself ONE ice cream per year. Do not have each of those every week.

Eating food should be about survival - primarily. Treat yourself to a really awesome meal once every week or two, not all of the time.

Also, note that adding salt to your food will not cause obesity. However, it will cause high blood pressure.

Second, McGreasy Meals might not be fattening per se, but they DO give you huge amounts of cholesterol.

Obesity, high blood pressure and cholesterol are three mostly-separate issues.

Do not go on a diet. Change your diet.

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.
 
2014-01-17 10:29:08 PM  
I have never seen pictures of very overweight or obese women on news threads with captions like:  "Rosie O'Donnell wows in skin tight see through dress".  Kang is doing what pretty much all the pretty female celebs are doing and yet, she is getting crucified for it.  So much for the theory that fat people are jolly.
 
2014-01-17 10:29:17 PM  

tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-17 10:31:59 PM  

tlars699: theMightyRegeya: "Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.

Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely* to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.

*to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

:\


Please drop this tired canard. It's absolute shiat, and everyone knows it. There are 24 hours in a day. 8 are for sleeping, 8 are for working. That leaves 8 for whatever. You're telling me that that poor beleaguered single mother of three children can't find 30 minutes to run around the block or do some other cardio?

No one is saying that everyone needs to look like this woman. There is a perfectly acceptable healthy weight range, and is pretty wide. You could be within 20-30 lbs of your "ideal" weight and still be healthy. No one is saying everyone needs to be a Greek Adonis, we're just saying that it shouldn't be socially acceptable and normal to be obese.
 
2014-01-17 10:37:32 PM  

Banned on the Run: Fit can be curvy, too.

[i216.photobucket.com image 511x800]


I'm really torn on this one. One one hand I applaud her for the level of healthy physical fitness she has achieved. But I can't help thinking: how much hotter would she be if she had another 15 lbs of softness.

Those curves are ruthless, regardless. And I do appreciate that.
 
2014-01-17 10:38:47 PM  

Captain Dan: Lusiphur: Bull shiat. That assumes that obesity is some sort of black magic and that it's a mystery how to get healthy. It isn't. Everyone knows. They just choose to make excuses rather than sacrifices.

There's plenty that people intellectually "know" to do, but forget in the hustle of day-to-day life.  So instead of berating them, which won't help, it's better to remind them often, to encourage them, to be a good role model.


Which is what this woman did. She didn't call them names, said nothing derogatory, want mean. All she did was ask a simple question. What's your excuse? It should only make you feel bad if you recognize that all you have is excuses. If you're really proud of your body, then you shouldn't get upset at all.
 
2014-01-17 10:43:08 PM  
Dear fat people,

We've asked you hundreds, if not thousands of times, in every possible way, from being nice to being mean and every single way in between, would you please conform to society's standards of attractiveness?  It hurts my eyes to look at your disgusting body, burns my nose to smell your stench, makes my ears feel like abortions when I have to hear your heavy breathing and makesmy skin crawl when you get anywhere near me.  I shouldn't have to deal with the pain and suffering of your existence, so I'm asking you for the 7,933,343th time to do something about it.  Truly, it's not that hard to drink water, skip the McDonald's, add some vegetables to your meals and get some exercise.  It won't kill you, we promise.

Thanks,

Literally Everyone Else
 
2014-01-17 10:43:13 PM  

tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.


OK, on the off chance you were being serious, and since you're probably not, this is also for the people who honestly believe that this gal is one of the worst human beings ever:

Every time I see a story about some fitness enthusiast shaming people, it's always a woman.

Every single time.

I have never once seen guys plastered all over mass media for "shaming" people by posting self-pics on their Facebook wall with "What's your excuse?" or "No excuses" somehow "shaming" every single fat or skinny insecure guy out there.  Never heard of guys getting banned from Facebook for posting non-nude fitness pics to their own wall, either.

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Maybe Fat Acceptance advocates are just horrible misogynists.
 
2014-01-17 10:49:24 PM  

serialsuicidebomber: GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [deleted for brevity]

......addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.


BULLsheesh. You are full of crap.

Addiction to alcohol or tobacco is 'I *need* it.'.

On the other hand, every living human being needs food. What you do NOT need is an amazing stupendous taste sensation that makes every taste bud in your mouth - and those in the next timezone over as well - explode with a fury of excitement and agonizing joy in anticipation of the next bite.

There is no such thing as an 'addiction to food'. Food is absolutely essential for ALL living creatures - what you are addicted to is gluttony and sauces and sugar. You need to stop pigging out at One meal and then not eating for 6-8 hrs. You need to re-examine when to give yourself a treat..... also, 'what' to call a treat. Try to look at cake and pie as a once-per-month treat; maybe just one donut or one cookie per week. I allow myself ONE ice cream per year. Do not have each of those every week.

Eating food should be about survival - primarily. Treat yourself to a really awesome meal once every week or two, not all of the time.

Also, note that adding salt to your food will not cause obesity. However, it will cause high blood pressure.

Second, McGreasy Meals might not be fattening per se, but they DO give you huge amounts of cholesterol.

Obesity, high blood pressure and cholesterol are three mostly-separate issues.

Do not go on a diet. Change your diet.

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.


Argue with the doctors and scientists, then.

It's been a very proven fact that some foods (such as sugar, or "comfort foods") activate the dopamine chemicals in the brain.
 
2014-01-17 11:19:29 PM  

ladyfortuna: baconbeard: People are obese for one simple reason: they don't make living a healthy lifestyle a priority,
They'll spend hours a day on the Internet or Facebook, but "don't have the time to cook healthy meals". They'll watch TV or play video games for hours, but "don't have the time to go for a daily half hour walk". They'll eat out at fast food restaurants every day, even though they know they shouldn't.

It's not genetics, it's not thyroid conditions, it's not evolution, it's not HFCS... it's simply a matter or priorities...

Or it's a spinal injury that doesn't *seem* that bad to the observer but requires painkillers to sleep for more than two/three hours, and even then the pain doesn't fully go away. Plus it causes all kinds of other fun issues with the body. Of your list, I am guilty of internet and computer games, but that's usually after I can't stand up anymore for the day.

Yaaay ~25% disability...


In a previous thread, I posted a link showing that almost 50% of North America's population was either overweight, obese or morbidly obese.

There is no way in hell that 50% of 300 million people have a spinal cord injury - or a 'glandular' problem either.
 
2014-01-17 11:33:44 PM  

Banned on the Run: [25.media.tumblr.com image 478x200]


I have an almost physical envy of her range of movement. Yes, you read that right.

serialsuicidebomber:
There is no way in hell that 50% of 300 million people have a spinal cord injury - or a 'glandular' problem either.

I never said they did. I do, however. Had to cease the diagnosis of the problem however, when I also developed endometriosis and had two abdominal surgeries for that, so I still don't have a definitive diagnosis as to whether I've got a degenerating disc or something else going on. So next time you're looking down your nose at someone... maybe check yourself before you assume it's due to laziness.

/getting an MRI under Worker's Comp is like pulling teeth on someone with a guard dog and concealed carry...
 
2014-01-17 11:41:39 PM  

theMightyRegeya: tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

OK, on the off chance you were being serious, and since you're probably not, this is also for the people who honestly believe that this gal is one of the worst human beings ever:

Every time I see a story about some fitness enthusiast shaming people, it's always a woman.

Every single time.

I have never once seen guys plastered all over mass media for "shaming" people by posting self-pics on their Facebook wall with "What's your excuse?" or "No excuses" somehow "shaming" every single fat or skinny insecure guy out there.  Never heard of guys getting banned from Facebook for posting non-nude fitness pics to their own wall, either.

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Maybe Fat Acceptance advocates are just horrible misogynists.



You're right, but it's not misogyny. At the gym, men *usually* work out to build up massive muscles to impress chicks. Women, however, do Not want massive muscles on their bodies.

By comparison, the people who hire fitness trainers are, both male and female, primarily interested in losing weight and/or running their first ever mid-life crisis marathon.

There's nothing wrong with that, but the ads you refer to are about guys bragging about how big their muscles are - which had absolutely Nothing to do with how much weight they had to lose to get there. These guys usually start building muscle when they are young, as opposed to Starting to use-up excess wight when they are over 35.
 
2014-01-17 11:53:24 PM  

GrailOfThunder: serialsuicidebomber:

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.

Argue with the doctors and scientists, then.



Again, there is no such thing as 'food addiction'.

Apparently, most people do not know what the word 'food' means.

There is no such thing as sugar, fat or salt in vegetables (especially HFCS). Similarly, there is almost no fat in a chicken breast (oddly, perchance that's why it's called a LEAN meat). It also does not have sugar and, most likely, no salt.

Perhaps you think that a box of Hamburger Helper is food???

It is not.

The problem is that people are addicted to all of the worthless crap in boxes and cans of 'food' that advertisers tell us is oh-so-tasty. I agree it is tasty. But it is not food. A salad is food. However, salad dressing is NOT.
 
2014-01-18 12:31:38 AM  
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2014-01-18 12:32:05 AM  
At least 75% of the people hatin' on fat folks in this thread are gonna be obese by the time they're in their late 20s. That figure goes up with time.

It's great to hate fat folks when you're a moronic 17 year old on the internets who doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but around 24, you can't inhale pizzas and 2 liters of Dew without gaining anymore. Yuck it up, Chunk.
 
2014-01-18 12:47:38 AM  
serialsuicidebomber:
There is no such thing as sugar, fat or salt in vegetables

Cabbage, raw
Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
sugars - 3.2g
fat - .01g
sodium - 18g

While minimal, they're there in varying degrees. Hell, there's this thing called VEGETABLE OIL. Also Sugar Beets, among many other permutations.

You know how I know you're talking out your ass?
 
2014-01-18 12:55:45 AM  

red5ish: [imagizer.imageshack.us image 451x600]
As a result of reading this stupid article I was led to read the earlier article, then to look up images of Fit Mom, then, much to my regret, images of "curvies", which I had never heard of before.
A lot of the women are attractive, but I don't want to sit next to them on a long flight.


Okay, whoever did the photoshop on that magazine cover needs to be beaten with a hammer. They made her head way too small for her body, and now she just looks like some sort of alien freak. She'd have likely looked better without the shopping.

That aside... As a woman, nothing about the original photo bothers me one bit. It doesn't even bother me that she showed her stupidity by responding to a post about surgical scars and stretch marks rather than just focusing on weight and called it "normalizing obesity." I found that hilarious, actually, and I'd want her to talk all about fitness for the exact same reasons that I'd want Sarah Palin to give endless lectures on foreign policy. She seriously strikes me as the type of person who would see this picture:

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...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.
 
2014-01-18 01:30:28 AM  
hey, fatbishes, if someone being fit SHAMES you, then... well, farking kill yourself, cause if you're going to be an ugly fat coont like you are, you're gonna need thicker skin.

/to hold your disgusting fattyfat in
 
2014-01-18 01:30:56 AM  

Carousel Beast: GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

The My Little Pony Killer: No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?

Lost 35 lbs. and have since run three half-marathons, so I have plenty to feel pretty awesome about.

If that's the case, then your running is my business, and you're at substantially greater risk of injury running than using machines at a properly supervised gym. Please cease running immediately.


Especially so if you're running on concrete. Dumbass.
 
2014-01-18 01:33:14 AM  

GrailOfThunder: GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

That's a straw man argument.  By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)

In that regard, I have to agree with MLPK. I pay my dues, and don't worry about what risks the rest of the country is taking. I have enough going on in my OWN life to keep me busy without worrying about everyone else. :)


Thank you, and for the most part, I don't give a flying fark about what all the other people you listed as doing unsafe stuff are doing, because I'm really damn sure that I do plenty of things they would disagree with health-wise. I just think that everybody should be taken care of. We're a rich enough country to try out that experiment.
 
2014-01-18 01:46:49 AM  
Sometimes it IS a glandular issue. But that's not an excuse to whine or give up, if a healthy weight is what you really want. When my thyroid meds stopped working (hooray for shiatty manufacturing resulting in my essentially eating sugar pills for six months) I gained 50 pounds despite exercising daily for an hour or more. I switched meds and got my life back, but I'm still struggling to take those 50 off. I've gotten rid of 10 so far...but even if I'm never skinny again, at least I'm in better shape than I was...but if I stop moving around and start stuffing myself I will get fat again and it's my own fault, because I know my body will just grab onto that shiat.

Know your own body and its strengths and limitations, then work around them. Don't use "fat acceptance" as a club to beat compliments out of people instead of learning to actually love and accept yourself (which is what "fat acceptance" SHOULD be, just self acceptance.) And don't use "acceptance" as "acquiescence." I accept that I have poor close up vision, so I wear glasses to read. It's not a political decision, just...you just farking well get on with life, you know?
 
2014-01-18 01:56:49 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: LOL, she ain't even mad tho.


That right there is the face of a woman destined to be fat in an environment of plenty fighting a hellish battle against cellulite.

I bet her mom is shaped like a beach ball.
 
2014-01-18 02:04:22 AM  

GoldSpider: JesseL: Only if they successfully demand that you pay for their healthcare.
 
I'm a healthy person in an insurance pool, so yes, I'm paying for their healthcare.


Take that up with your HR dept for hiring greasy Butterballs.

/suggestion void if you are purchasing your insurance by yourself.
 
2014-01-18 03:49:00 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.

Yeah, I know this is Fark...but.  You're part of "the problem".  "The Problem" is that we in this country can't separate the intellectual understanding that being overweight is a problem that should be corrected, from self esteem.

An overweight person should understand that they are overweight, and work to correct that situation, and not feel like they are a horrible person.  But since we can't make that separation we end up with the "Fat is Fine" morons that won't even allow for the fact that being fat is bad; and the "You're a lazy lard ass" dipshiats who think that is the right motivator to help people lose weight.   We need to get over his self-esteem crap and fix the problems.  Saying "you should be ashamed" doesn't help, it just makes you a dick.

Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....


The issue is more complicated than that. Sensitives have boiled over to the point where even stating that a person who is, say, 5'7" and 212 lb. (what I used to be) is overweight is deemed "fat-shaming."

I have no problem saying that I used to be fat. It's not a moral judgement. It's an assessment of my physical state at the time. Denial was a big part of how I got there, but when I couldn't fool myself any longer I decided to do something about it.

Facts are facts, but political correctness has swung so far out of control that we can't even state the facts anymore.
 
2014-01-18 04:09:58 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.

Yeah, I know this is Fark...but.  You're part of "the problem".  "The Problem" is that we in this country can't separate the intellectual understanding that being overweight is a problem that should be corrected, from self esteem.

An overweight person should understand that they are overweight, and work to correct that situation, and not feel like they are a horrible person.  But since we can't make that separation we end up with the "Fat is Fine" morons that won't even allow for the fact that being fat is bad; and the "You're a lazy lard ass" dipshiats who think that is the right motivator to help people lose weight.   We need to get over his self-esteem crap and fix the problems.  Saying "you should be ashamed" doesn't help, it just makes you a dick.

Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....


Attempting reason with the lard-asses hasn't worked.  Being nice about it has been an abject failure for at least twenty years.  It's time to take the gloves off and call them what they are.  Disgusting, lazy, fatties who always have some excuse for their weight.  No, you don't have an over active thyroid.  You have an under active lifestyle.  Well, not your eating habits.  That is definitely over active.
 
2014-01-18 04:14:26 AM  

hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?

And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.


She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

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My niece started putting on the pounds after having two babies.  Instead of watching Oprah with a bucket of ice cream and whining about how mean people can be, she got off her ass and started exercising.  She isn't has buff as this woman, but she's well on her way.  She also considers this woman her hero.
 
2014-01-18 04:16:47 AM  

tlars699: Kahabut: tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.


Nope.  You're being ridiculous.  WE ARE NORMALIZING OBESITY.  In fact, it's already done.   There is nothing what so ever judgmental about that, nor is it conceited to point it out to others.

Just because YOU are too ignorant to know what most of those words mean, and how they apply to the real world doesn't make it judgmental or conceited in the slightest.  It just makes you an idiot.

What needs to happen here is that we need to tell people that are unhappy with their bodies that it is THEIR GOD DAMN FAULT, and if they don't like it, they should do something about it.  There is nothing wrong with making people take responsibility for their actions (or lack of).

It also wouldn't hurt for people to give a few less farks what other people think about the way they look.  But so many of the people complaining here are the same kind that buy all the fashion magazines, and people, and whatever and then lament the media projected image of sexy.  Stop consuming the media, and all the sudden your self image is improved... AMAZING.

/all that being said, I like some curves
//that kang woman looks good... for a 12 year old.
///overweight

The fark are you on about?
If I shouldn't care what other people think about my body, then how is announcing what I think of other peoples' bodies to those other people, without being asked for my criticism, not judgmental nor conceited?

I farking hate your haircut.
Did you ask me about that? No? Too farking bad! I had to tell you that I do, because I'm trying to save you from your poor hair choices.

How the fark is the above any farking different from what she farking did?

/my curves are not for you.


Apples and oranges. A bad haircut is not a health risk. Obesity carries with it serious health risks. If you're 80 pounds overweight and have normal cholesterol, blood pressure, blood sugar levels, etc. - knock your curvy self out. If not, you are choosing a path that is making you sick.

According to your logic, we shouldn't worry about anorexics, either. It's their body and they can do what they want with it.
 
2014-01-18 04:22:44 AM  
Not sure if to grab the air-popped or oil-popped popcorn for this discussion?
 
2014-01-18 05:13:22 AM  

Terrible Old Man: At least 75% of the people hatin' on fat folks in this thread are gonna be obese by the time they're in their late 20s. That figure goes up with time.

It's great to hate fat folks when you're a moronic 17 year old on the internets who doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but around 24, you can't inhale pizzas and 2 liters of Dew without gaining anymore. Yuck it up, Chunk.


This, I used to hate on the fatties till I fracked up my ankles and got fat.
 
2014-01-18 05:40:53 AM  
After reading through much of this thread, I conclude fat-shaming has less to do with any sort of social or moral obligation and more to do with some people just needing to focus hate on someone.
 
2014-01-18 05:47:58 AM  
Someone should just throw a book deal or a reality show or whatever it is that AWs tend to want when they go out of their way to get attention. She's not going to go away until they do.

That said, I never had a huge problem with this lady. I think she's a bit of a coont but she does have a point in that we're making obesity a norm. I'm overweight and I think that there's a huge problem with people saying that I should just be happy being overweight, that I'm perfectly fine, etc. At the same time I really hate that we don't have a happy medium inbetween the two voices. People are either screaming at us that we should all be anorexic, dieting on one of the Great New Diets,  and a size 0  or they're telling us that being a size 16 is fantastic and that we should all drive down to Taco Bell and buy one of those ungodly nacho wrap things.

I think that if she'd had been nicer about her message in the first place and said what she really meant: that we should all try to be healthier and not see obesity as the good norm in society, then she wouldn't have been received as badly. Then again, she wouldn't have gotten all of this attention either.
 
2014-01-18 06:16:31 AM  

tokyogirl79: Someone should just throw a book deal or a reality show or whatever it is that AWs tend to want when they go out of their way to get attention. She's not going to go away until they do.

That said, I never had a huge problem with this lady. I think she's a bit of a coont but she does have a point in that we're making obesity a norm. I'm overweight and I think that there's a huge problem with people saying that I should just be happy being overweight, that I'm perfectly fine, etc. At the same time I really hate that we don't have a happy medium inbetween the two voices. People are either screaming at us that we should all be anorexic, dieting on one of the Great New Diets,  and a size 0  or they're telling us that being a size 16 is fantastic and that we should all drive down to Taco Bell and buy one of those ungodly nacho wrap things.

I think that if she'd had been nicer about her message in the first place and said what she really meant: that we should all try to be healthier and not see obesity as the good norm in society, then she wouldn't have been received as badly. Then again, she wouldn't have gotten all of this attention either.


There is a happy medium. It's called being fit and healthy. Someone upthread threw out the five-mile number, saying that a person who can go out and run 5 miles whenever they want is probably in a decent state of fitness.
 
2014-01-18 06:23:21 AM  
HindiDiscoMonster:  I'm sorry, but can you please cite a time when fat-shaming didn't exist, please list alternate dimension by name and coordinates please as no such time has existed in this universe.

Cf: the works of Titian, Renoir, Rubens, some of Picasso's early stuff, portraits of Henry the VIII, nineteenth century ballerinas... And this is without leaving the realm of those evil, dead, white guys.
Do I really need to go on?

The anorexiphilia is a twentieth century European thing, that can be traced back to some ballet choreographers in the 1910s and 1920s.  Buddies with that art deco guy who always drew impossibly slender women, Erte.  Who, in turn, heavily influenced that vile Lagerfeld.

/hyperbole and absolutes make arguments so fun and easy.
 
2014-01-18 08:26:48 AM  
You know what really sucks?  When you're banging a super hot chick and you discover she's absolutely horrible in the sack.  That's what we should be shaming, people.
 
2014-01-18 08:41:50 AM  

serialsuicidebomber: A salad is food. However, salad dressing is NOT.


Salad isn't food. Salad is what food eats.
 
2014-01-18 08:57:38 AM  
"curvy" only works when some of the curves are concave.
 
2014-01-18 10:02:57 AM  

tlars699: theMightyRegeya: "Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.

Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely* to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.

*to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

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The idea that staying fit is a full time job that only professional athletes and people who don't have to support themselves can do is one of the big myths that guilty people tell themselves so they can feel better.

It has much more to do with sensible eating and some moderate excercise a few times a week. Great abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym.
 
2014-01-18 10:07:31 AM  

Lusiphur: sharphead: See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.

Yes, in our time of record obesity, THOSE are the only reasons that people are fat. It's also very curious that there seem to be a lot of people suddenly developing big bones, thyroid conditions, depression, and all sorts of other conditions that magically turn people into blimps.



Weird thing is, many will agree with you, but the thinking goes along the lines of, "yeah, all those people, just not me, my fatness is totally legit."
 
2014-01-18 10:14:34 AM  

serialsuicidebomber: GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [deleted for brevity]

......addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.


BULLsheesh. You are full of crap.

Addiction to alcohol or tobacco is 'I *need* it.'.

On the other hand, every living human being needs food. What you do NOT need is an amazing stupendous taste sensation that makes every taste bud in your mouth - and those in the next timezone over as well - explode with a fury of excitement and agonizing joy in anticipation of the next bite.

There is no such thing as an 'addiction to food'. Food is absolutely essential for ALL living creatures - what you are addicted to is gluttony and sauces and sugar. You need to stop pigging out at One meal and then not eating for 6-8 hrs. You need to re-examine when to give yourself a treat..... also, 'what' to call a treat. Try to look at cake and pie as a once-per-month treat; maybe just one donut or one cookie per week. I allow myself ONE ice cream per year. Do not have each of those every week.

Eating food should be about survival - primarily. Treat yourself to a really awesome meal once every week or two, not all of the time.

Also, note that adding salt to your food will not cause obesity. However, it will cause high blood pressure.

Second, McGreasy Meals might not be fattening per se, but they DO give you huge amounts of cholesterol.

Obesity, high blood pressure and cholesterol are three mostly-separate issues.

Do not go on a diet. Change your diet.

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.



Food addiction is ceartinly a thing - the extra eating ends up scratching the same itch as any other addiction and the same brain changes are involved. That's the problem, food shouldn't get tied up into the lymbic reward system so much, but when eating ends up as a distraction to life's blows it can end up that way and the cycle begins. In the end, think of it as an addiction to unneeded eating. A food addict is not eating because they think they are starving, they are doing it because they feel good when they eat. They are addicted to that feeling and keep going back for it-more than is needed to stay healthy.
 
2014-01-18 10:24:17 AM  

serialsuicidebomber: theMightyRegeya: tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

OK, on the off chance you were being serious, and since you're probably not, this is also for the people who honestly believe that this gal is one of the worst human beings ever:

Every time I see a story about some fitness enthusiast shaming people, it's always a woman.

Every single time.

I have never once seen guys plastered all over mass media for "shaming" people by posting self-pics on their Facebook wall with "What's your excuse?" or "No excuses" somehow "shaming" every single fat or skinny insecure guy out there.  Never heard of guys getting banned from Facebook for posting non-nude fitness pics to their own wall, either.

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Maybe Fat Acceptance advocates are just horrible misogynists.


You're right, but it's not misogyny. At the gym, men *usually* work out to build up massive muscles to impress chicks. Women, however, do Not want massive muscles on their bodies.

By comparison, the people who hire fitness trainers are, both male and female, primarily interested in losing weight and/or running their first ever mid-life crisis marathon.

There's nothing wrong with that, but the ads you refer to are about guys bragging about how big their muscles are - which had absolutely Nothing to do with how much weight they had to los ...


I disagree, if it's just muscle, they can look like a powerlifter or what have  you, but for the "ripped" look, the bodyfat has to be low, and that involves a properly managed diet. You can have really big muscles, but you won't get that "300" look that guys want unless your fat is low enough to see them clearly. That's why they do so much anerobic and cadio.
 
2014-01-18 10:29:34 AM  

GrailOfThunder: You're right, of course. Being overweight is unhealthy, and you shouldn't be "proud" to be fat. But TBH, I don't think I've ever heard someone say "I'm proud to be fat". (If you're proud of it, then why are you dieting?)


They don't say "I'm proud to be fat."  Fat sounds bad.  They say "I'm proud to be curvy."  They just changed being fat into being curvy.

The other day Fit Mom was on the news arguing against the owner of "Curvy Girl Lingerie."  The owner of that business encouraged women to post pictures of themselves in a "regular women" campaign.

"We all know some people will hate on these curvy girls, saying mean, nasty things about their beautiful bodies," she stated. "But you never know who you might help or empower when they see they're not the only woman with cellulite, rolls, scars, saggy breasts or stretch marks. After all, life is not Photoshopped!"


Okay, fine but also a lot of those women are an unhealthy weight.  It's one thing to empower a woman with cellulite, scars or stretch marks from having babies and whatnot.  It's another thing to empower a woman who is simply severely obese.  You don't need to shame her, she already knows.  But you don't need to empower her to stay that way for fark's sake.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/regular-women-lingerie-phot os _n_4308760.html
 
2014-01-18 10:33:49 AM  

supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.


I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.
 
2014-01-18 10:37:59 AM  

Chaghatai: Lusiphur: sharphead: See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.

Yes, in our time of record obesity, THOSE are the only reasons that people are fat. It's also very curious that there seem to be a lot of people suddenly developing big bones, thyroid conditions, depression, and all sorts of other conditions that magically turn people into blimps.


Weird thing is, many will agree with you, but the thinking goes along the lines of, "yeah, all those people, just not me, my fatness is totally legit."


I imagine there's a pretty decent correlation between the number of fat people who blame being fat on things out of their control and whether or not they stay fat.  Similarly, I imagine the people who accept their weight is under their control tend to not stay fat as often.  So it might not be as hypocritical as you think.
 
2014-01-18 12:12:14 PM  

baconbeard: I honestly can't see what's so mind-bogglingly offensive about her original picture. Yeah, it's a teeny bit judgemental, but if "What's your Excuse" is enough to rock the foundations of your world, I'd say it's more of a case of hitting a nerve than actually being judgemental.


Bingo!
 
2014-01-18 01:12:09 PM  

GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Maybe not by the pound but by percentage body fat.  The BMI thing is stupid.  And I can handle increased taxes on booze to cover health care costs.

But instead of targeting junk food which even us health non-fatties enjoy from time to time we can go directly to the fatties and impose a % body fat surcharge on their helaht care premium and allow grace periods for things like pregnancy and other medical reasons..  But because you had a kid two years ago would not be an excuse to be fat now.

You don't think that would cause a whole host of OTHER problems though? Such as bulimia, anorexia, other eating disorders, depression, perhaps even suicidal tendencies? "Fat shaming" already causes enough of that, making obesity even *more* anti-social would just exacerbate the problem, IMO.

Women, especially young(er) ones, are already faced with enough pressure on "having the perfect body" - and we already know the affects it's having on these women as they grow up. We sit here and call out the people that shame them because the (bullied girls) don't have the perfect "Thigh Gap", yet on the other side of the coin we're going to biatch about people being overweight? We're hypocrites.


It sounds as if this is primarily a women's issue, Yes there are a lot, a whole lot of fat guys  but why do chicks seem to attach such drama to it.  For guy sit is a simple  lazy , eats too much issue .  For chicks you end up becoming drama queens, needing therapy and some anti-depression meds.    This can't have the prefect body excuse does not mean it is OK to be fat.  There is a big difference between having the perfect body and not being overweight

No wonder chicks' health care costs more, obviously it should.
 
2014-01-18 02:50:41 PM  

lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.


I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.
 
2014-01-18 03:22:10 PM  

rustypouch: abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else

They can be fat where ever, but I don't like being shamed because I don't find fat chicks sexy.

Although the impotent rage that comes from fatties who are reminded that they're fat amuses me.


News flash. No one gives a shiat who you find sexy.

/not fat
 
2014-01-18 03:34:00 PM  

neilbradley: lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.

I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.


But she made me feel bad about myself :(
 
2014-01-18 04:15:31 PM  
If you are fat, have some personal responsibility. It's your fault you are fat. Either change that, or shut the fark up.
 
2014-01-18 07:13:12 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: AgentPothead: If you are fat, have some personal responsibility. It's your fault you are fat. Either change that, or shut the fark up.

I know, right... I mean people just aren't bootstrappy enough is the problem... thy should keep spare thyroid glands, spare sets of bones (with marrow of course) and spare musculature sets at minimum so if/when they are injured or something fails they can replace it...

amirite?


OK, so the 1% of obese people that actually have thyroid issues or other problems have an excuse. What about the remaining 99% whose only "issue" is sloth?
 
2014-01-18 07:22:34 PM  
Reading through this thread, and reading the article...I've never seen so many people judging others.

Like OhioUGrad, I am underweight and endure a constant struggle just to not dip below 100 lbs.  When I meet Farkers in real life, pretty much their first statement to me is "Good Gawd, let me make you a sammich!"

Having said that (as my disclaimer that I am not fat so am not "fat offended" by this Kang person), my issue with her is the fact that she is so judgmental without knowing a damn thing about the people she is judging.  For some people, their reason (not excuse) is they are injured/on disability, for others it's a medical condition (such as a thyroid condition), for others it's an issue of perhaps not having time to cook appropriately and eat a lot of fast food.  The point is, it's not always laziness or overeating.  And not everyone is a fitness trainer who works in a gym.

All of which is irrelevant to me.

No one has the right to judge anyone else unless you can part some body of water and/or walk on it.  Not looking to get into a religious discussion, but as a Christian I believe that the only being that can ever judge me is God and he will do it when I die.  No one else has the privilege of doing it while I'm alive.

/live and let live
//if you are going to judge others you had better be prepared to be judged yourself
///I do agree that obesity is a major problem, but it is not my job to criticize anyone for being overweight
 
2014-01-18 08:30:48 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: AgentPothead: If you are fat, have some personal responsibility. It's your fault you are fat. Either change that, or shut the fark up.

I know, right... I mean people just aren't bootstrappy enough is the problem... thy should keep spare thyroid glands, spare sets of bones (with marrow of course) and spare musculature sets at minimum so if/when they are injured or something fails they can replace it...

amirite?


Yes, because a little common sense about eating less when you are less active is beyond so many people.  And we don't want people to feel responsible when they can find excuses.

Oh, that doesn't support your narrative?   So sorry.
 
2014-01-18 09:29:55 PM  
I am so farking sick of hearing OH I HAVE A DISEASE, THAT'S WHY I'M FAT. No, no it isn't. The amount of the US population considered GROSSLY OVERWIGHT, IE OBESE is approaching 60%. If you count ALL overweight people it's approaching 80%. Guess how many of those people have a legitimate medical reason to be disgustingly fat? Something approaching 3%. The other 97%? Just too lazy and stupid to do anything about it. It's like you god damn people who say you have diabetes because you consume so much HFCS in your diet that you have the same symptoms as the disease diabetes. Diabetes is something you are BORN with. If you can get rid of your "diabetes" by changing your diet guess what, you don't have diabetes. You have the same symptoms as the disease, but you don't have the actual disease. The fact that a person can sit there and eat enough energy to feed 5-6 people is disgusting. That that person can then somehow think that it's anybody else's fault but their own? That's beyond disgusting. The fark do you people sleep at night. Probably like babies.
 
2014-01-18 09:35:49 PM  

FarkingBabs: but as a Christian I believe that the only being that can ever judge me is God


And that's why you're fat.
 
2014-01-18 09:52:53 PM  

neilbradley: lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.

I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.


Never heard of her before now, to be quite honest. I've heard of a gazillion other fitness and health celebrities, though. It just seems to me that Jillian Michaels looks great and doesn't seem to need to rile up Facebook groups or go on Good Morning America and play the villainized victim, whereas I'd never heard of Maria Kang until she posted a picture (which admittedly was nothing upsetting), and then when the mass attention from that went away she started getting it because she was riling up Facebook groups. Then she started doing interviews and morning shows about how victimized she was because people got upset about her riling up the Facebook group. When your interviews and public appearances have more to do with whatever fake controversy you've caused than about fitness and health, it's attention whoring.

But she's not having Kanye's spawn or anything, so kudos to her.
 
2014-01-18 10:00:20 PM  

baconbeard: neilbradley: lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.

I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.

But she made me feel bad about myself :(


Whether or not she gives people the warm and fuzzies has nothing to do with whether or not she's an attention whore.  As I mentioned, there are countless other fitness experts who don't coddle fatties yet are actually known first for being a fitness expert. The publicity Maria Kang gets tends to be about her drama, not her fitness advice, and when that goes away, she makes more drama. Ergo, attention whore.
 
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