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2014-01-18 12:55:45 AM  

red5ish: [imagizer.imageshack.us image 451x600]
As a result of reading this stupid article I was led to read the earlier article, then to look up images of Fit Mom, then, much to my regret, images of "curvies", which I had never heard of before.
A lot of the women are attractive, but I don't want to sit next to them on a long flight.


Okay, whoever did the photoshop on that magazine cover needs to be beaten with a hammer. They made her head way too small for her body, and now she just looks like some sort of alien freak. She'd have likely looked better without the shopping.

That aside... As a woman, nothing about the original photo bothers me one bit. It doesn't even bother me that she showed her stupidity by responding to a post about surgical scars and stretch marks rather than just focusing on weight and called it "normalizing obesity." I found that hilarious, actually, and I'd want her to talk all about fitness for the exact same reasons that I'd want Sarah Palin to give endless lectures on foreign policy. She seriously strikes me as the type of person who would see this picture:

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...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.
 
2014-01-18 01:30:28 AM  
hey, fatbishes, if someone being fit SHAMES you, then... well, farking kill yourself, cause if you're going to be an ugly fat coont like you are, you're gonna need thicker skin.

/to hold your disgusting fattyfat in
 
2014-01-18 01:30:56 AM  

Carousel Beast: GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

The My Little Pony Killer: No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?

Lost 35 lbs. and have since run three half-marathons, so I have plenty to feel pretty awesome about.

If that's the case, then your running is my business, and you're at substantially greater risk of injury running than using machines at a properly supervised gym. Please cease running immediately.


Especially so if you're running on concrete. Dumbass.
 
2014-01-18 01:33:14 AM  

GrailOfThunder: GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

That's a straw man argument.  By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)

In that regard, I have to agree with MLPK. I pay my dues, and don't worry about what risks the rest of the country is taking. I have enough going on in my OWN life to keep me busy without worrying about everyone else. :)


Thank you, and for the most part, I don't give a flying fark about what all the other people you listed as doing unsafe stuff are doing, because I'm really damn sure that I do plenty of things they would disagree with health-wise. I just think that everybody should be taken care of. We're a rich enough country to try out that experiment.
 
2014-01-18 01:46:49 AM  
Sometimes it IS a glandular issue. But that's not an excuse to whine or give up, if a healthy weight is what you really want. When my thyroid meds stopped working (hooray for shiatty manufacturing resulting in my essentially eating sugar pills for six months) I gained 50 pounds despite exercising daily for an hour or more. I switched meds and got my life back, but I'm still struggling to take those 50 off. I've gotten rid of 10 so far...but even if I'm never skinny again, at least I'm in better shape than I was...but if I stop moving around and start stuffing myself I will get fat again and it's my own fault, because I know my body will just grab onto that shiat.

Know your own body and its strengths and limitations, then work around them. Don't use "fat acceptance" as a club to beat compliments out of people instead of learning to actually love and accept yourself (which is what "fat acceptance" SHOULD be, just self acceptance.) And don't use "acceptance" as "acquiescence." I accept that I have poor close up vision, so I wear glasses to read. It's not a political decision, just...you just farking well get on with life, you know?
 
2014-01-18 01:56:49 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: LOL, she ain't even mad tho.


That right there is the face of a woman destined to be fat in an environment of plenty fighting a hellish battle against cellulite.

I bet her mom is shaped like a beach ball.
 
2014-01-18 02:04:22 AM  

GoldSpider: JesseL: Only if they successfully demand that you pay for their healthcare.
 
I'm a healthy person in an insurance pool, so yes, I'm paying for their healthcare.


Take that up with your HR dept for hiring greasy Butterballs.

/suggestion void if you are purchasing your insurance by yourself.
 
2014-01-18 03:49:00 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.

Yeah, I know this is Fark...but.  You're part of "the problem".  "The Problem" is that we in this country can't separate the intellectual understanding that being overweight is a problem that should be corrected, from self esteem.

An overweight person should understand that they are overweight, and work to correct that situation, and not feel like they are a horrible person.  But since we can't make that separation we end up with the "Fat is Fine" morons that won't even allow for the fact that being fat is bad; and the "You're a lazy lard ass" dipshiats who think that is the right motivator to help people lose weight.   We need to get over his self-esteem crap and fix the problems.  Saying "you should be ashamed" doesn't help, it just makes you a dick.

Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....


The issue is more complicated than that. Sensitives have boiled over to the point where even stating that a person who is, say, 5'7" and 212 lb. (what I used to be) is overweight is deemed "fat-shaming."

I have no problem saying that I used to be fat. It's not a moral judgement. It's an assessment of my physical state at the time. Denial was a big part of how I got there, but when I couldn't fool myself any longer I decided to do something about it.

Facts are facts, but political correctness has swung so far out of control that we can't even state the facts anymore.
 
2014-01-18 04:09:58 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: GoldSpider: Sorry, fatty, you SHOULD be ashamed of your lazy, unhealthy, overindulgent lifestyle that makes health care more expensive for everyone.

Yeah, I know this is Fark...but.  You're part of "the problem".  "The Problem" is that we in this country can't separate the intellectual understanding that being overweight is a problem that should be corrected, from self esteem.

An overweight person should understand that they are overweight, and work to correct that situation, and not feel like they are a horrible person.  But since we can't make that separation we end up with the "Fat is Fine" morons that won't even allow for the fact that being fat is bad; and the "You're a lazy lard ass" dipshiats who think that is the right motivator to help people lose weight.   We need to get over his self-esteem crap and fix the problems.  Saying "you should be ashamed" doesn't help, it just makes you a dick.

Seriously, if your kid was having problems with math in school, do you think the right approach would be to tell them "Your problem is that you're a moron.  You should be ashamed that you don't study enough, and other kids are smarter than you."?  I'm guessing they won't do any better in math....


Attempting reason with the lard-asses hasn't worked.  Being nice about it has been an abject failure for at least twenty years.  It's time to take the gloves off and call them what they are.  Disgusting, lazy, fatties who always have some excuse for their weight.  No, you don't have an over active thyroid.  You have an under active lifestyle.  Well, not your eating habits.  That is definitely over active.
 
2014-01-18 04:14:26 AM  

hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She piss off a bunch of frumpy moms?

And more power to her. We have an obesity problem in this country/the world and thanks to socialized medicine even us healthy folks are gong to end up paying for it. Absent and underlying medical condition if you are fat you should be ashamed. Fat should not be accepted.


She deserves a misuse of the hero tag.

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My niece started putting on the pounds after having two babies.  Instead of watching Oprah with a bucket of ice cream and whining about how mean people can be, she got off her ass and started exercising.  She isn't has buff as this woman, but she's well on her way.  She also considers this woman her hero.
 
2014-01-18 04:16:47 AM  

tlars699: Kahabut: tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.


Nope.  You're being ridiculous.  WE ARE NORMALIZING OBESITY.  In fact, it's already done.   There is nothing what so ever judgmental about that, nor is it conceited to point it out to others.

Just because YOU are too ignorant to know what most of those words mean, and how they apply to the real world doesn't make it judgmental or conceited in the slightest.  It just makes you an idiot.

What needs to happen here is that we need to tell people that are unhappy with their bodies that it is THEIR GOD DAMN FAULT, and if they don't like it, they should do something about it.  There is nothing wrong with making people take responsibility for their actions (or lack of).

It also wouldn't hurt for people to give a few less farks what other people think about the way they look.  But so many of the people complaining here are the same kind that buy all the fashion magazines, and people, and whatever and then lament the media projected image of sexy.  Stop consuming the media, and all the sudden your self image is improved... AMAZING.

/all that being said, I like some curves
//that kang woman looks good... for a 12 year old.
///overweight

The fark are you on about?
If I shouldn't care what other people think about my body, then how is announcing what I think of other peoples' bodies to those other people, without being asked for my criticism, not judgmental nor conceited?

I farking hate your haircut.
Did you ask me about that? No? Too farking bad! I had to tell you that I do, because I'm trying to save you from your poor hair choices.

How the fark is the above any farking different from what she farking did?

/my curves are not for you.


Apples and oranges. A bad haircut is not a health risk. Obesity carries with it serious health risks. If you're 80 pounds overweight and have normal cholesterol, blood pressure, blood sugar levels, etc. - knock your curvy self out. If not, you are choosing a path that is making you sick.

According to your logic, we shouldn't worry about anorexics, either. It's their body and they can do what they want with it.
 
2014-01-18 04:22:44 AM  
Not sure if to grab the air-popped or oil-popped popcorn for this discussion?
 
2014-01-18 05:13:22 AM  

Terrible Old Man: At least 75% of the people hatin' on fat folks in this thread are gonna be obese by the time they're in their late 20s. That figure goes up with time.

It's great to hate fat folks when you're a moronic 17 year old on the internets who doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but around 24, you can't inhale pizzas and 2 liters of Dew without gaining anymore. Yuck it up, Chunk.


This, I used to hate on the fatties till I fracked up my ankles and got fat.
 
2014-01-18 05:40:53 AM  
After reading through much of this thread, I conclude fat-shaming has less to do with any sort of social or moral obligation and more to do with some people just needing to focus hate on someone.
 
2014-01-18 05:47:58 AM  
Someone should just throw a book deal or a reality show or whatever it is that AWs tend to want when they go out of their way to get attention. She's not going to go away until they do.

That said, I never had a huge problem with this lady. I think she's a bit of a coont but she does have a point in that we're making obesity a norm. I'm overweight and I think that there's a huge problem with people saying that I should just be happy being overweight, that I'm perfectly fine, etc. At the same time I really hate that we don't have a happy medium inbetween the two voices. People are either screaming at us that we should all be anorexic, dieting on one of the Great New Diets,  and a size 0  or they're telling us that being a size 16 is fantastic and that we should all drive down to Taco Bell and buy one of those ungodly nacho wrap things.

I think that if she'd had been nicer about her message in the first place and said what she really meant: that we should all try to be healthier and not see obesity as the good norm in society, then she wouldn't have been received as badly. Then again, she wouldn't have gotten all of this attention either.
 
2014-01-18 06:16:31 AM  

tokyogirl79: Someone should just throw a book deal or a reality show or whatever it is that AWs tend to want when they go out of their way to get attention. She's not going to go away until they do.

That said, I never had a huge problem with this lady. I think she's a bit of a coont but she does have a point in that we're making obesity a norm. I'm overweight and I think that there's a huge problem with people saying that I should just be happy being overweight, that I'm perfectly fine, etc. At the same time I really hate that we don't have a happy medium inbetween the two voices. People are either screaming at us that we should all be anorexic, dieting on one of the Great New Diets,  and a size 0  or they're telling us that being a size 16 is fantastic and that we should all drive down to Taco Bell and buy one of those ungodly nacho wrap things.

I think that if she'd had been nicer about her message in the first place and said what she really meant: that we should all try to be healthier and not see obesity as the good norm in society, then she wouldn't have been received as badly. Then again, she wouldn't have gotten all of this attention either.


There is a happy medium. It's called being fit and healthy. Someone upthread threw out the five-mile number, saying that a person who can go out and run 5 miles whenever they want is probably in a decent state of fitness.
 
2014-01-18 06:23:21 AM  
HindiDiscoMonster:  I'm sorry, but can you please cite a time when fat-shaming didn't exist, please list alternate dimension by name and coordinates please as no such time has existed in this universe.

Cf: the works of Titian, Renoir, Rubens, some of Picasso's early stuff, portraits of Henry the VIII, nineteenth century ballerinas... And this is without leaving the realm of those evil, dead, white guys.
Do I really need to go on?

The anorexiphilia is a twentieth century European thing, that can be traced back to some ballet choreographers in the 1910s and 1920s.  Buddies with that art deco guy who always drew impossibly slender women, Erte.  Who, in turn, heavily influenced that vile Lagerfeld.

/hyperbole and absolutes make arguments so fun and easy.
 
2014-01-18 08:26:48 AM  
You know what really sucks?  When you're banging a super hot chick and you discover she's absolutely horrible in the sack.  That's what we should be shaming, people.
 
2014-01-18 08:41:50 AM  

serialsuicidebomber: A salad is food. However, salad dressing is NOT.


Salad isn't food. Salad is what food eats.
 
2014-01-18 08:57:38 AM  
"curvy" only works when some of the curves are concave.
 
2014-01-18 10:02:57 AM  

tlars699: theMightyRegeya: "Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.

Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely* to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.

*to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

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The idea that staying fit is a full time job that only professional athletes and people who don't have to support themselves can do is one of the big myths that guilty people tell themselves so they can feel better.

It has much more to do with sensible eating and some moderate excercise a few times a week. Great abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym.
 
2014-01-18 10:07:31 AM  

Lusiphur: sharphead: See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.

Yes, in our time of record obesity, THOSE are the only reasons that people are fat. It's also very curious that there seem to be a lot of people suddenly developing big bones, thyroid conditions, depression, and all sorts of other conditions that magically turn people into blimps.



Weird thing is, many will agree with you, but the thinking goes along the lines of, "yeah, all those people, just not me, my fatness is totally legit."
 
2014-01-18 10:14:34 AM  

serialsuicidebomber: GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [deleted for brevity]

......addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.


BULLsheesh. You are full of crap.

Addiction to alcohol or tobacco is 'I *need* it.'.

On the other hand, every living human being needs food. What you do NOT need is an amazing stupendous taste sensation that makes every taste bud in your mouth - and those in the next timezone over as well - explode with a fury of excitement and agonizing joy in anticipation of the next bite.

There is no such thing as an 'addiction to food'. Food is absolutely essential for ALL living creatures - what you are addicted to is gluttony and sauces and sugar. You need to stop pigging out at One meal and then not eating for 6-8 hrs. You need to re-examine when to give yourself a treat..... also, 'what' to call a treat. Try to look at cake and pie as a once-per-month treat; maybe just one donut or one cookie per week. I allow myself ONE ice cream per year. Do not have each of those every week.

Eating food should be about survival - primarily. Treat yourself to a really awesome meal once every week or two, not all of the time.

Also, note that adding salt to your food will not cause obesity. However, it will cause high blood pressure.

Second, McGreasy Meals might not be fattening per se, but they DO give you huge amounts of cholesterol.

Obesity, high blood pressure and cholesterol are three mostly-separate issues.

Do not go on a diet. Change your diet.

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.



Food addiction is ceartinly a thing - the extra eating ends up scratching the same itch as any other addiction and the same brain changes are involved. That's the problem, food shouldn't get tied up into the lymbic reward system so much, but when eating ends up as a distraction to life's blows it can end up that way and the cycle begins. In the end, think of it as an addiction to unneeded eating. A food addict is not eating because they think they are starving, they are doing it because they feel good when they eat. They are addicted to that feeling and keep going back for it-more than is needed to stay healthy.
 
2014-01-18 10:24:17 AM  

serialsuicidebomber: theMightyRegeya: tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

OK, on the off chance you were being serious, and since you're probably not, this is also for the people who honestly believe that this gal is one of the worst human beings ever:

Every time I see a story about some fitness enthusiast shaming people, it's always a woman.

Every single time.

I have never once seen guys plastered all over mass media for "shaming" people by posting self-pics on their Facebook wall with "What's your excuse?" or "No excuses" somehow "shaming" every single fat or skinny insecure guy out there.  Never heard of guys getting banned from Facebook for posting non-nude fitness pics to their own wall, either.

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Maybe Fat Acceptance advocates are just horrible misogynists.


You're right, but it's not misogyny. At the gym, men *usually* work out to build up massive muscles to impress chicks. Women, however, do Not want massive muscles on their bodies.

By comparison, the people who hire fitness trainers are, both male and female, primarily interested in losing weight and/or running their first ever mid-life crisis marathon.

There's nothing wrong with that, but the ads you refer to are about guys bragging about how big their muscles are - which had absolutely Nothing to do with how much weight they had to los ...


I disagree, if it's just muscle, they can look like a powerlifter or what have  you, but for the "ripped" look, the bodyfat has to be low, and that involves a properly managed diet. You can have really big muscles, but you won't get that "300" look that guys want unless your fat is low enough to see them clearly. That's why they do so much anerobic and cadio.
 
2014-01-18 10:29:34 AM  

GrailOfThunder: You're right, of course. Being overweight is unhealthy, and you shouldn't be "proud" to be fat. But TBH, I don't think I've ever heard someone say "I'm proud to be fat". (If you're proud of it, then why are you dieting?)


They don't say "I'm proud to be fat."  Fat sounds bad.  They say "I'm proud to be curvy."  They just changed being fat into being curvy.

The other day Fit Mom was on the news arguing against the owner of "Curvy Girl Lingerie."  The owner of that business encouraged women to post pictures of themselves in a "regular women" campaign.

"We all know some people will hate on these curvy girls, saying mean, nasty things about their beautiful bodies," she stated. "But you never know who you might help or empower when they see they're not the only woman with cellulite, rolls, scars, saggy breasts or stretch marks. After all, life is not Photoshopped!"


Okay, fine but also a lot of those women are an unhealthy weight.  It's one thing to empower a woman with cellulite, scars or stretch marks from having babies and whatnot.  It's another thing to empower a woman who is simply severely obese.  You don't need to shame her, she already knows.  But you don't need to empower her to stay that way for fark's sake.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/regular-women-lingerie-phot os _n_4308760.html
 
2014-01-18 10:33:49 AM  

supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.


I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.
 
2014-01-18 10:37:59 AM  

Chaghatai: Lusiphur: sharphead: See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.

Yes, in our time of record obesity, THOSE are the only reasons that people are fat. It's also very curious that there seem to be a lot of people suddenly developing big bones, thyroid conditions, depression, and all sorts of other conditions that magically turn people into blimps.


Weird thing is, many will agree with you, but the thinking goes along the lines of, "yeah, all those people, just not me, my fatness is totally legit."


I imagine there's a pretty decent correlation between the number of fat people who blame being fat on things out of their control and whether or not they stay fat.  Similarly, I imagine the people who accept their weight is under their control tend to not stay fat as often.  So it might not be as hypocritical as you think.
 
2014-01-18 12:12:14 PM  

baconbeard: I honestly can't see what's so mind-bogglingly offensive about her original picture. Yeah, it's a teeny bit judgemental, but if "What's your Excuse" is enough to rock the foundations of your world, I'd say it's more of a case of hitting a nerve than actually being judgemental.


Bingo!
 
2014-01-18 01:12:09 PM  

GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Maybe not by the pound but by percentage body fat.  The BMI thing is stupid.  And I can handle increased taxes on booze to cover health care costs.

But instead of targeting junk food which even us health non-fatties enjoy from time to time we can go directly to the fatties and impose a % body fat surcharge on their helaht care premium and allow grace periods for things like pregnancy and other medical reasons..  But because you had a kid two years ago would not be an excuse to be fat now.

You don't think that would cause a whole host of OTHER problems though? Such as bulimia, anorexia, other eating disorders, depression, perhaps even suicidal tendencies? "Fat shaming" already causes enough of that, making obesity even *more* anti-social would just exacerbate the problem, IMO.

Women, especially young(er) ones, are already faced with enough pressure on "having the perfect body" - and we already know the affects it's having on these women as they grow up. We sit here and call out the people that shame them because the (bullied girls) don't have the perfect "Thigh Gap", yet on the other side of the coin we're going to biatch about people being overweight? We're hypocrites.


It sounds as if this is primarily a women's issue, Yes there are a lot, a whole lot of fat guys  but why do chicks seem to attach such drama to it.  For guy sit is a simple  lazy , eats too much issue .  For chicks you end up becoming drama queens, needing therapy and some anti-depression meds.    This can't have the prefect body excuse does not mean it is OK to be fat.  There is a big difference between having the perfect body and not being overweight

No wonder chicks' health care costs more, obviously it should.
 
2014-01-18 02:50:41 PM  

lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.


I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.
 
2014-01-18 03:22:10 PM  

rustypouch: abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else

They can be fat where ever, but I don't like being shamed because I don't find fat chicks sexy.

Although the impotent rage that comes from fatties who are reminded that they're fat amuses me.


News flash. No one gives a shiat who you find sexy.

/not fat
 
2014-01-18 03:34:00 PM  

neilbradley: lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.

I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.


But she made me feel bad about myself :(
 
2014-01-18 04:15:31 PM  
If you are fat, have some personal responsibility. It's your fault you are fat. Either change that, or shut the fark up.
 
2014-01-18 07:13:12 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: AgentPothead: If you are fat, have some personal responsibility. It's your fault you are fat. Either change that, or shut the fark up.

I know, right... I mean people just aren't bootstrappy enough is the problem... thy should keep spare thyroid glands, spare sets of bones (with marrow of course) and spare musculature sets at minimum so if/when they are injured or something fails they can replace it...

amirite?


OK, so the 1% of obese people that actually have thyroid issues or other problems have an excuse. What about the remaining 99% whose only "issue" is sloth?
 
2014-01-18 07:22:34 PM  
Reading through this thread, and reading the article...I've never seen so many people judging others.

Like OhioUGrad, I am underweight and endure a constant struggle just to not dip below 100 lbs.  When I meet Farkers in real life, pretty much their first statement to me is "Good Gawd, let me make you a sammich!"

Having said that (as my disclaimer that I am not fat so am not "fat offended" by this Kang person), my issue with her is the fact that she is so judgmental without knowing a damn thing about the people she is judging.  For some people, their reason (not excuse) is they are injured/on disability, for others it's a medical condition (such as a thyroid condition), for others it's an issue of perhaps not having time to cook appropriately and eat a lot of fast food.  The point is, it's not always laziness or overeating.  And not everyone is a fitness trainer who works in a gym.

All of which is irrelevant to me.

No one has the right to judge anyone else unless you can part some body of water and/or walk on it.  Not looking to get into a religious discussion, but as a Christian I believe that the only being that can ever judge me is God and he will do it when I die.  No one else has the privilege of doing it while I'm alive.

/live and let live
//if you are going to judge others you had better be prepared to be judged yourself
///I do agree that obesity is a major problem, but it is not my job to criticize anyone for being overweight
 
2014-01-18 08:30:48 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: AgentPothead: If you are fat, have some personal responsibility. It's your fault you are fat. Either change that, or shut the fark up.

I know, right... I mean people just aren't bootstrappy enough is the problem... thy should keep spare thyroid glands, spare sets of bones (with marrow of course) and spare musculature sets at minimum so if/when they are injured or something fails they can replace it...

amirite?


Yes, because a little common sense about eating less when you are less active is beyond so many people.  And we don't want people to feel responsible when they can find excuses.

Oh, that doesn't support your narrative?   So sorry.
 
2014-01-18 09:29:55 PM  
I am so farking sick of hearing OH I HAVE A DISEASE, THAT'S WHY I'M FAT. No, no it isn't. The amount of the US population considered GROSSLY OVERWIGHT, IE OBESE is approaching 60%. If you count ALL overweight people it's approaching 80%. Guess how many of those people have a legitimate medical reason to be disgustingly fat? Something approaching 3%. The other 97%? Just too lazy and stupid to do anything about it. It's like you god damn people who say you have diabetes because you consume so much HFCS in your diet that you have the same symptoms as the disease diabetes. Diabetes is something you are BORN with. If you can get rid of your "diabetes" by changing your diet guess what, you don't have diabetes. You have the same symptoms as the disease, but you don't have the actual disease. The fact that a person can sit there and eat enough energy to feed 5-6 people is disgusting. That that person can then somehow think that it's anybody else's fault but their own? That's beyond disgusting. The fark do you people sleep at night. Probably like babies.
 
2014-01-18 09:35:49 PM  

FarkingBabs: but as a Christian I believe that the only being that can ever judge me is God


And that's why you're fat.
 
2014-01-18 09:52:53 PM  

neilbradley: lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.

I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.


Never heard of her before now, to be quite honest. I've heard of a gazillion other fitness and health celebrities, though. It just seems to me that Jillian Michaels looks great and doesn't seem to need to rile up Facebook groups or go on Good Morning America and play the villainized victim, whereas I'd never heard of Maria Kang until she posted a picture (which admittedly was nothing upsetting), and then when the mass attention from that went away she started getting it because she was riling up Facebook groups. Then she started doing interviews and morning shows about how victimized she was because people got upset about her riling up the Facebook group. When your interviews and public appearances have more to do with whatever fake controversy you've caused than about fitness and health, it's attention whoring.

But she's not having Kanye's spawn or anything, so kudos to her.
 
2014-01-18 10:00:20 PM  

baconbeard: neilbradley: lennavan: supayoda: ...and comment on how fat this person is. The above rear end, by the way, belongs to Jennifer Lawrence, and she is very much NOT fat. (Feel free to GIS for it, if you haven't started already.)

What does bother me is that this "fit mom" is famous for... what exactly? At this point folks are just catering to some very obvious attention whoring. I just can't figure out for the life of me why anything she'd say would matter to anyone.

I think you're reading the discussion incorrectly.  Fit Mom doesn't seem to be arguing for judging whether or not that person is fat.  She seems to be arguing that we shouldn't be judging good or bad either way.  Severely obese people shouldn't be told they are fat, nor should they be told they are "regular," "normal" or "just curvy."  It's not healthy.

And yeah, she's a major attention whore.  Admittedly I've only read one article (this one) and saw her on the news once, so that's what I base my opinion of her on.

I've been following Maria Kang and other fitness celebrities for quite some time, and I'm also first to call out an attention whore on anyone who actually is, but I haven't seen one shred of AWing from Maria Kang. 99.9% Of her posts and blogs are nutrition and exercise advice. To put her at the same level as someone like Kim Kardashian is just irresponsible and wrong.

But she made me feel bad about myself :(


Whether or not she gives people the warm and fuzzies has nothing to do with whether or not she's an attention whore.  As I mentioned, there are countless other fitness experts who don't coddle fatties yet are actually known first for being a fitness expert. The publicity Maria Kang gets tends to be about her drama, not her fitness advice, and when that goes away, she makes more drama. Ergo, attention whore.
 
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