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2014-01-17 07:56:13 PM  

tlars699: theMightyRegeya: "Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.

Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely* to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.

*to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

:\


The full disclosure changes the equation. Working at a gym as a fitness instructor allows her the time to do that. It would be like Arnold Schwarzenegger during his bodybuilding days chastising an office drone for not being as ripped as he is. If you have the time, great, if not -- at least change your eating habits.
 
2014-01-17 07:58:32 PM  
 
2014-01-17 07:59:19 PM  

GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.


That's a straw man argument.  By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)

In that regard, I have to agree with MLPK. I pay my dues, and don't worry about what risks the rest of the country is taking. I have enough going on in my OWN life to keep me busy without worrying about everyone else. :)
 
2014-01-17 07:59:43 PM  

Kahabut: tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.


Nope.  You're being ridiculous.  WE ARE NORMALIZING OBESITY.  In fact, it's already done.   There is nothing what so ever judgmental about that, nor is it conceited to point it out to others.

Just because YOU are too ignorant to know what most of those words mean, and how they apply to the real world doesn't make it judgmental or conceited in the slightest.  It just makes you an idiot.

What needs to happen here is that we need to tell people that are unhappy with their bodies that it is THEIR GOD DAMN FAULT, and if they don't like it, they should do something about it.  There is nothing wrong with making people take responsibility for their actions (or lack of).

It also wouldn't hurt for people to give a few less farks what other people think about the way they look.  But so many of the people complaining here are the same kind that buy all the fashion magazines, and people, and whatever and then lament the media projected image of sexy.  Stop consuming the media, and all the sudden your self image is improved... AMAZING.

/all that being said, I like some curves
//that kang woman looks good... for a 12 year old.
///overweight


The fark are you on about?
If I shouldn't care what other people think about my body, then how is announcing what I think of other peoples' bodies to those other people, without being asked for my criticism, not judgmental nor conceited?

I farking hate your haircut.
Did you ask me about that? No? Too farking bad! I had to tell you that I do, because I'm trying to save you from your poor hair choices.

How the fark is the above any farking different from what she farking did?

/my curves are not for you.
 
2014-01-17 07:59:49 PM  

Banned on the Run: [25.media.tumblr.com image 478x200]


Is she swimming past a corpse?
 
2014-01-17 08:05:34 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Banned on the Run: [25.media.tumblr.com image 478x200]

Is she swimming past a corpse?


Possibly. According to TinEye, that's from one of Jessica Alba's movies.. Haven't figured out which one yet though.
 
2014-01-17 08:13:01 PM  

12349876: Moopy Mac: 12349876: Moopy Mac: GreenSun: Lol, you never hear the fat guys rallying against her. It's the fat women who are jealous and angry! Fat guys know that whether being obese is the result of their dna or excessive eating habits, fat women disregard these ideas and go straight into "I can't be that sexy, she doesn't have the right to flaunt her body because it makes me feel sad!" mode!

And let's just disregard the whole genetic argument. The human species has not evolved that much over the last fifty years.

But those who had a similar sedentary lifestyle and access to unhealthy food in the past (the aristocracy) also had weight issues.  History has plenty of fat ass monarchs.  Society is what has evolved in the past 50 years and I think it leaves some brains struggling a bit to get a healthy relationship with unlimited food and sedentary lifestyles.  Humans used to have to struggle to get food.  Humans used to get all the exercise they needed trying to survive.

/struggling a bit does not come anywhere close to equaling impossible

50 years ago (no poor) people weren't getting all the exercise they needed just trying to survive. They just ate less, walked more and ate less HFCS.

But again, there hasn't been any measurable change to human genetics over the last 50 years.

They ate less because food was more expensive.  They exercised more because there were more factory workers and only one car per household and less stranger danger and services that were nearby.  And they ate less HFCS because it had just been invented and not yet put into large scale production.

I'm not arguing humans have evolved in the past 50 years.  I'm arguing they HAVEN'T, and that why genetics are an issue, society is evolving much faster.


I think I agree with you. On average it may be more difficult to be "not fat" now than it was 50 years ago.
 
2014-01-17 08:15:38 PM  

steamingpile: tlars699: "I'm afraid we as a society are Normalizing Obesity" isn't "Hate Speech"
But it is judgmental, and conceited to think that you know better than the people whose pictures you're judging, without a medical license/upfront experience with these people.

So, ignore her.

Help the Facebook mods solve real crimes/dilemmas, please.

Well it is a hate crime, do you know how bad fat women have it in today's world!!!?

There is actually a tumble site called This is This Privilege which lets whales biatch about how they are oppressed because of fat. They say its a medical condition and they can't get under 200 lbs.


You realize of course, that hormones actually contribute to weight problems? As in if you out yourself on a restrictive diet, that your body starts fighting you by activating the hunger signals in your brain and that these do not shut off unless you gain the weight back or even more so?

I mean, it doesn't mean you should stop trying,  but shaming somebody for being fat, when they're doing their damnedest doesn't help- it hurts.
No matter how hard they try, how much they do, the only way for them to be thinner is to go for gastric bypass, or endure harsh criticism. Most of them say 'why bother putting in the effort if nobody recognizes my efforts?' and give up saying this is how they are.

Now for a real way to judge the fitness of a person, have them run 5 miles. If they can't do it without some other health constraint, not fit. If they can, then they're fit. End of story.
 
2014-01-17 08:17:24 PM  

GrailOfThunder: GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

That's a straw man argument.  By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)

In that regard, I have to agree with MLPK. I pay my dues, and don't worry about what risks the rest of the country is taking. I have enough going on in my OWN life to keep me busy without worrying about everyone else. :)


And welcome to bankruptcy.
 
2014-01-17 08:18:25 PM  
WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE FARK I'M SUPPOSED TO CARE?

Thank you, Subby.

However, there is a difference between 'normal' and 'fat'. Normal is not fat. No rolls, lumps, bumps, jiggly bits, wads of cellulite, double chins, triple chins, obvious muffin tops or double wide arses.

Nor is it ripped abs, wiry, long muscles, sculpted butts, defined biceps, not an ounce of extra fat, lean face and the ability to do one handed push-ups.

Just, well, normal. Usually cute, easy on the eye, pleasant to hold. Just enough additional 'padding' to round out the sharp edges.

Not a soccer mom and not a couch potato. Someone whose face doesn't droop uncontrollably into a frown because of the additional fat around the mouth nor settles into a grim, thin lipped straight line because of taunt muscles.

Doesn't wear 'mom jeans' nor 'jogging shorts or sweats' all of the time. Can actually wear something on her feet other than oversized, training sneakers or cheap, rubber 'skuffs'.

Maybe look back on the 60s and 70s and see what 'normal' looked like.

Probably the late 60s, when people still did a lot of physical exercise in normal everyday life that did not require a gym. Supersize had not hit the fast food places by then and you could not find a national chain greaseburger on every block.

No one had even heard of a 'jogging stroller' and would not have any idea of what it was. Fried cheese, candy bars and ice cream had not even been thought of. You saw fat folks, but they were usually over 50 and you rarely saw anyone so fat they needed a power chair to move around.
 
2014-01-17 08:19:24 PM  

OhioUGrad: WhyKnot: funny how people that get upset about being called out for being fat (something they have control over) take shots at her looks (something she doesn't have control over). So not only is there cognitive dissidence about their own weight, they are petty and mean about things she can't change....I honestly don't know which is worse.

there are plenty of people who don't have control over their weight (perhaps you should read up on the subject). The females I've dated have all been much more attractive than her (and I don't care if you believe it or not), she's putting herself out there as a holier than thou authority....I have no problem reminding her that she is ugly (inside and out).

/been underweight most of my life


There are not "plenty of people who don't have control over their weight" relative to the population. That is BS and history has shown that to be BS.
 
2014-01-17 08:26:21 PM  
i.imgur.com

No shame there.
 
2014-01-17 08:27:14 PM  
sploosh!
 
2014-01-17 08:32:18 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-17 08:38:25 PM  

dbrunker: [img.fark.net image 600x600]


If this were true I'd be beating off women with a stick, instead of just beating off.
 
2014-01-17 08:48:16 PM  

GrailOfThunder: abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else

No they're not. But they will be at some point.


Or they'll be discriminated against like smokers.

Put down the big gulp lard butt
 
2014-01-17 08:56:07 PM  
Most moms who are fit were fit before they had kids.

/Would split her and her kind like an oak log.
 
2014-01-17 08:59:02 PM  

lewismarktwo: Fat people die earlier and make healthcare cheaper for everyone.


errr no
Their deaths tend to be quite expensive medically, as with smokers (I am) and drinkers (I am)

// does not hate fat people, but they are kind of repulsive to look at (my choice)
/ pro - choice. Let everyone live their life the way they want to - if it does not affect you, leave them alone
 
2014-01-17 09:08:37 PM  

GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.


What is your point?  Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?
 
2014-01-17 09:14:57 PM  

GrailOfThunder: By the same token, it's my business every time a parachutist hurts himself by jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, every time a football player injures himself on a tackle, every time a mountain biker has to get stitches because he hit a rock while flying down a mountain at 80mph, or whenever the neighborhood kids want to imitate the latest "Jackass" movie (and list could go on, and on, and on for probably 100 pages). :)


Except the number of obese people in this country outnumber the other groups you mentioned by several orders of magnitude.  "Same token" indeed.
 
2014-01-17 09:15:49 PM  

Frederick: What is your point? Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?


As someone upthread suggested, make them pay a higher premium just like other high-risk demographics.
 
2014-01-17 09:16:54 PM  

sharphead: See now if she was fat herself, this wouldn't be happening.  Because people like her think they're going to live forever being thin and fit and perfect.  But suddenly what happens if she gets in an injury where she's in bed for 6 months?  What if she gets depressed and starts to overeat?  Lot's of things can happen, and she should in all honesty, keep her mouth shut, because it may just come back to bite her hard someday.


Yes, in our time of record obesity, THOSE are the only reasons that people are fat. It's also very curious that there seem to be a lot of people suddenly developing big bones, thyroid conditions, depression, and all sorts of other conditions that magically turn people into blimps.
 
2014-01-17 09:33:59 PM  
Wow. When did Fark get so fat?
 
2014-01-17 09:35:32 PM  

Banned on the Run: [i216.photobucket.com image 597x899]

I knew this woman when she was 30 pounds heavier after her fourth kid.
She got her ass in the gym and wants to know what your excuse is as well.


It's amazing what an Oompa Loompa can look like after a lot of hard work. Still didn't change the skin colour though.
 
2014-01-17 09:43:30 PM  

GoldSpider: Frederick: What is your point? Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?

As someone upthread suggested, make them pay a higher premium just like other high-risk demographics.


Sounds troublesome.
What sort of scale would be used?  It's not a binary condition like smoking.  How fat is too fat?  Is the insurance company going to weigh customers frequently?  What about fat people with no measurable health issues?  For example my 5k times are better than a lot of thin people I know...
 
2014-01-17 10:00:29 PM  
Vanity has never accomplishing anything but self improvement and fools you to think its a noble pursuit.
 
2014-01-17 10:02:10 PM  

abhorrent1: You're making lard-asses feel bad. Don't you know they''re a protected class?

/go be fat somewhere else
//no, seriously
///go be fat somewhere else


Living up to your name, I see
 
2014-01-17 10:08:35 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: /Would split her and her kind like an oak log.



i3.mirror.co.uk

Why would you do that???
 
2014-01-17 10:11:25 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Most moms who are fit were fit before they had kids.

/Would split her and her kind like an oak log.


Meh.. after 3 kids? I kinda doubt that. :)
 
2014-01-17 10:13:44 PM  
Subby, we should care because hot women who dress in skimpy clothes should be encouraged.
They should be encouraged long and hard.  But with a gentle, sensitive approach.
 
2014-01-17 10:15:43 PM  

GoldSpider: The My Little Pony Killer: How about people mind their own damn businesses about what somebody else's weight/exercise/eating habits/whatever and don't worry about that shiat?

It becomes my business every time my insurance contribution is deducted from my paycheck.

The My Little Pony Killer: No? Don't have enough going on in your lives to feel good about otherwise?

Lost 35 lbs. and have since run three half-marathons, so I have plenty to feel pretty awesome about.


Now just fix up that whole "being a massive dick" thing and you're all set!
 
2014-01-17 10:16:22 PM  

GoldSpider: Frederick: What is your point? Some people are fat so you shouldnt have to pay for insurance?

As someone upthread suggested, make them pay a higher premium just like other high-risk demographics.


I fully support this, especially for people who have cancer run in their family.  Or people whose parents and grandparents die before 90.
 
2014-01-17 10:17:21 PM  

Captain Dan: It's not helpful to say "you're fat."  No shiat, the fat person knows that.  Better to offer specific advice.

- Don't eat fast food.  McDonalds, Burger King, etc... that stuff is horrible for you.

- Try to exercise every day, even if only for a short while.  Even 5-10 minutes is much better than nothing.

- Skip sugary drinks: regular sodas, fruit juices, etc.; and try to minimize very sugary foods/desserts.

- Don't give up.  Unless you're Samoan or have thyroid problems, you can control your weight.  It requires perseverance, though.  Instead of viewing healthy food as a short-term plan (e.g. "30 day diet"), try to make it a normal part of your life.  Once you make it a habit, it's easy.  Your taste buds will adapt to the stuff you currently think is bland.


Bull shiat. That assumes that obesity is some sort of black magic and that it's a mystery how to get healthy. It isn't. Everyone knows. They just choose to make excuses rather than sacrifices.
 
2014-01-17 10:22:44 PM  

Lusiphur: Bull shiat. That assumes that obesity is some sort of black magic and that it's a mystery how to get healthy. It isn't. Everyone knows. They just choose to make excuses rather than sacrifices.


There's plenty that people intellectually "know" to do, but forget in the hustle of day-to-day life.  So instead of berating them, which won't help, it's better to remind them often, to encourage them, to be a good role model.
 
2014-01-17 10:28:12 PM  

GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [deleted for brevity]

......addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.



BULLsheesh. You are full of crap.

Addiction to alcohol or tobacco is 'I *need* it.'.

On the other hand, every living human being needs food. What you do NOT need is an amazing stupendous taste sensation that makes every taste bud in your mouth - and those in the next timezone over as well - explode with a fury of excitement and agonizing joy in anticipation of the next bite.

There is no such thing as an 'addiction to food'. Food is absolutely essential for ALL living creatures - what you are addicted to is gluttony and sauces and sugar. You need to stop pigging out at One meal and then not eating for 6-8 hrs. You need to re-examine when to give yourself a treat..... also, 'what' to call a treat. Try to look at cake and pie as a once-per-month treat; maybe just one donut or one cookie per week. I allow myself ONE ice cream per year. Do not have each of those every week.

Eating food should be about survival - primarily. Treat yourself to a really awesome meal once every week or two, not all of the time.

Also, note that adding salt to your food will not cause obesity. However, it will cause high blood pressure.

Second, McGreasy Meals might not be fattening per se, but they DO give you huge amounts of cholesterol.

Obesity, high blood pressure and cholesterol are three mostly-separate issues.

Do not go on a diet. Change your diet.

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.
 
2014-01-17 10:29:08 PM  
I have never seen pictures of very overweight or obese women on news threads with captions like:  "Rosie O'Donnell wows in skin tight see through dress".  Kang is doing what pretty much all the pretty female celebs are doing and yet, she is getting crucified for it.  So much for the theory that fat people are jolly.
 
2014-01-17 10:29:17 PM  

tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-17 10:31:59 PM  

tlars699: theMightyRegeya: "Kang's comments didn't deserve to be banned, even if they weren't the most enlightened or sensitive."

She said, ""While I think it's important to love and accept your body, I was a little peeved because while I feel like it's ok to love and accept your body, I think that we're normalizing obesity in our society."

I can't disagree there.  The whole "Fat Acceptance" thing is bullshiat.  It's telling you that these people are sexy and healthy and you're an asshole if you say otherwise.  Or, as they say in the article, they're "sexy as hell".

Dr Dreidel: And yes, this means that she who fires the first "volley" is going to get the most scorn. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool..." and all that.

Well, it was the Fat Acceptance people who went after her first, when she posted her "What's your excuse?" thing to her own wall, to be seen by her followers, who are likely* to be fellow fitness buffs.  I don't blame her for firing back, and what she said was incredibly tame compared to the "Curvy Girls" eye rape.

*to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

:\


Please drop this tired canard. It's absolute shiat, and everyone knows it. There are 24 hours in a day. 8 are for sleeping, 8 are for working. That leaves 8 for whatever. You're telling me that that poor beleaguered single mother of three children can't find 30 minutes to run around the block or do some other cardio?

No one is saying that everyone needs to look like this woman. There is a perfectly acceptable healthy weight range, and is pretty wide. You could be within 20-30 lbs of your "ideal" weight and still be healthy. No one is saying everyone needs to be a Greek Adonis, we're just saying that it shouldn't be socially acceptable and normal to be obese.
 
2014-01-17 10:37:32 PM  

Banned on the Run: Fit can be curvy, too.

[i216.photobucket.com image 511x800]


I'm really torn on this one. One one hand I applaud her for the level of healthy physical fitness she has achieved. But I can't help thinking: how much hotter would she be if she had another 15 lbs of softness.

Those curves are ruthless, regardless. And I do appreciate that.
 
2014-01-17 10:38:47 PM  

Captain Dan: Lusiphur: Bull shiat. That assumes that obesity is some sort of black magic and that it's a mystery how to get healthy. It isn't. Everyone knows. They just choose to make excuses rather than sacrifices.

There's plenty that people intellectually "know" to do, but forget in the hustle of day-to-day life.  So instead of berating them, which won't help, it's better to remind them often, to encourage them, to be a good role model.


Which is what this woman did. She didn't call them names, said nothing derogatory, want mean. All she did was ask a simple question. What's your excuse? It should only make you feel bad if you recognize that all you have is excuses. If you're really proud of your body, then you shouldn't get upset at all.
 
2014-01-17 10:43:08 PM  
Dear fat people,

We've asked you hundreds, if not thousands of times, in every possible way, from being nice to being mean and every single way in between, would you please conform to society's standards of attractiveness?  It hurts my eyes to look at your disgusting body, burns my nose to smell your stench, makes my ears feel like abortions when I have to hear your heavy breathing and makesmy skin crawl when you get anywhere near me.  I shouldn't have to deal with the pain and suffering of your existence, so I'm asking you for the 7,933,343th time to do something about it.  Truly, it's not that hard to drink water, skip the McDonald's, add some vegetables to your meals and get some exercise.  It won't kill you, we promise.

Thanks,

Literally Everyone Else
 
2014-01-17 10:43:13 PM  

tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.


OK, on the off chance you were being serious, and since you're probably not, this is also for the people who honestly believe that this gal is one of the worst human beings ever:

Every time I see a story about some fitness enthusiast shaming people, it's always a woman.

Every single time.

I have never once seen guys plastered all over mass media for "shaming" people by posting self-pics on their Facebook wall with "What's your excuse?" or "No excuses" somehow "shaming" every single fat or skinny insecure guy out there.  Never heard of guys getting banned from Facebook for posting non-nude fitness pics to their own wall, either.

4.bp.blogspot.com

Maybe Fat Acceptance advocates are just horrible misogynists.
 
2014-01-17 10:49:24 PM  

serialsuicidebomber: GrailOfThunder: hasty ambush: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [deleted for brevity]

......addiction to food is no different to me than being addicted to alcohol or tobacco.


BULLsheesh. You are full of crap.

Addiction to alcohol or tobacco is 'I *need* it.'.

On the other hand, every living human being needs food. What you do NOT need is an amazing stupendous taste sensation that makes every taste bud in your mouth - and those in the next timezone over as well - explode with a fury of excitement and agonizing joy in anticipation of the next bite.

There is no such thing as an 'addiction to food'. Food is absolutely essential for ALL living creatures - what you are addicted to is gluttony and sauces and sugar. You need to stop pigging out at One meal and then not eating for 6-8 hrs. You need to re-examine when to give yourself a treat..... also, 'what' to call a treat. Try to look at cake and pie as a once-per-month treat; maybe just one donut or one cookie per week. I allow myself ONE ice cream per year. Do not have each of those every week.

Eating food should be about survival - primarily. Treat yourself to a really awesome meal once every week or two, not all of the time.

Also, note that adding salt to your food will not cause obesity. However, it will cause high blood pressure.

Second, McGreasy Meals might not be fattening per se, but they DO give you huge amounts of cholesterol.

Obesity, high blood pressure and cholesterol are three mostly-separate issues.

Do not go on a diet. Change your diet.

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.


Argue with the doctors and scientists, then.

It's been a very proven fact that some foods (such as sugar, or "comfort foods") activate the dopamine chemicals in the brain.
 
2014-01-17 11:19:29 PM  

ladyfortuna: baconbeard: People are obese for one simple reason: they don't make living a healthy lifestyle a priority,
They'll spend hours a day on the Internet or Facebook, but "don't have the time to cook healthy meals". They'll watch TV or play video games for hours, but "don't have the time to go for a daily half hour walk". They'll eat out at fast food restaurants every day, even though they know they shouldn't.

It's not genetics, it's not thyroid conditions, it's not evolution, it's not HFCS... it's simply a matter or priorities...

Or it's a spinal injury that doesn't *seem* that bad to the observer but requires painkillers to sleep for more than two/three hours, and even then the pain doesn't fully go away. Plus it causes all kinds of other fun issues with the body. Of your list, I am guilty of internet and computer games, but that's usually after I can't stand up anymore for the day.

Yaaay ~25% disability...


In a previous thread, I posted a link showing that almost 50% of North America's population was either overweight, obese or morbidly obese.

There is no way in hell that 50% of 300 million people have a spinal cord injury - or a 'glandular' problem either.
 
2014-01-17 11:33:44 PM  

Banned on the Run: [25.media.tumblr.com image 478x200]


I have an almost physical envy of her range of movement. Yes, you read that right.

serialsuicidebomber:
There is no way in hell that 50% of 300 million people have a spinal cord injury - or a 'glandular' problem either.

I never said they did. I do, however. Had to cease the diagnosis of the problem however, when I also developed endometriosis and had two abdominal surgeries for that, so I still don't have a definitive diagnosis as to whether I've got a degenerating disc or something else going on. So next time you're looking down your nose at someone... maybe check yourself before you assume it's due to laziness.

/getting an MRI under Worker's Comp is like pulling teeth on someone with a guard dog and concealed carry...
 
2014-01-17 11:41:39 PM  

theMightyRegeya: tlars699: *to spread it around on their walls, as it is an inciting/challenging photo/caption?
I mean, it's great she can do that- she's a fitness coach, that's sort of her job, all day, everyday.

Her challenge is to those people who have the 3 babies, and have another job for 8-10 hours a day, who know they should go to the gym, but kind of want to go home to their kids, and make dinner, and eventually go to bed.
That is kind of a key difference, here. 8 hours a day devoted to working out to make your business more profitable vs. 8 hours a day making a different sort of business more profitable, and then being expected to go to the gym for another 8 hours a day, just to keep up with her.

OK, on the off chance you were being serious, and since you're probably not, this is also for the people who honestly believe that this gal is one of the worst human beings ever:

Every time I see a story about some fitness enthusiast shaming people, it's always a woman.

Every single time.

I have never once seen guys plastered all over mass media for "shaming" people by posting self-pics on their Facebook wall with "What's your excuse?" or "No excuses" somehow "shaming" every single fat or skinny insecure guy out there.  Never heard of guys getting banned from Facebook for posting non-nude fitness pics to their own wall, either.

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Maybe Fat Acceptance advocates are just horrible misogynists.



You're right, but it's not misogyny. At the gym, men *usually* work out to build up massive muscles to impress chicks. Women, however, do Not want massive muscles on their bodies.

By comparison, the people who hire fitness trainers are, both male and female, primarily interested in losing weight and/or running their first ever mid-life crisis marathon.

There's nothing wrong with that, but the ads you refer to are about guys bragging about how big their muscles are - which had absolutely Nothing to do with how much weight they had to lose to get there. These guys usually start building muscle when they are young, as opposed to Starting to use-up excess wight when they are over 35.
 
2014-01-17 11:53:24 PM  

GrailOfThunder: serialsuicidebomber:

There is no such thing as a 'food addiction' since food is absolutely essential for every living creature.

Argue with the doctors and scientists, then.



Again, there is no such thing as 'food addiction'.

Apparently, most people do not know what the word 'food' means.

There is no such thing as sugar, fat or salt in vegetables (especially HFCS). Similarly, there is almost no fat in a chicken breast (oddly, perchance that's why it's called a LEAN meat). It also does not have sugar and, most likely, no salt.

Perhaps you think that a box of Hamburger Helper is food???

It is not.

The problem is that people are addicted to all of the worthless crap in boxes and cans of 'food' that advertisers tell us is oh-so-tasty. I agree it is tasty. But it is not food. A salad is food. However, salad dressing is NOT.
 
2014-01-18 12:31:38 AM  
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2014-01-18 12:32:05 AM  
At least 75% of the people hatin' on fat folks in this thread are gonna be obese by the time they're in their late 20s. That figure goes up with time.

It's great to hate fat folks when you're a moronic 17 year old on the internets who doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, but around 24, you can't inhale pizzas and 2 liters of Dew without gaining anymore. Yuck it up, Chunk.
 
2014-01-18 12:47:38 AM  
serialsuicidebomber:
There is no such thing as sugar, fat or salt in vegetables

Cabbage, raw
Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
sugars - 3.2g
fat - .01g
sodium - 18g

While minimal, they're there in varying degrees. Hell, there's this thing called VEGETABLE OIL. Also Sugar Beets, among many other permutations.

You know how I know you're talking out your ass?
 
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