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(The Raw Story)   Idaho Lawmaker tries to block bill that would require parents to get medical treatment for sick kids instead of relying on prayer because ""This is.., the belief God is in charge of whether they live, and God is in charge of whether they die"   (rawstory.com) divider line 32
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2014-01-17 01:47:01 PM  
20 votes:
No matter one's personal theology or lack thereof I think we all can agree that anyone who lets a child die of a treatable disease or injury will end up getting booked for the next thousand forevers in the suite by the poorly-maintained elevator in the wing of Hell Towers where the Rebecca Black concert never ends, the TV is permanently tuned to the Small Wonder marathon, the kitchen is out of everything but the Danny DeVito Anus Pie and the duodecahedron-penised rapenocerous just downed a Chevy-Tahoe-sized meth-and-Cialis capsule.
2014-01-17 01:23:42 PM  
6 votes:
We have come a long way.  It wasn't long ago that Darwin was the enemy, now they're embracing him and introducing legislation to help him continue his fine work of filtering the gene pool.
2014-01-17 02:22:14 PM  
3 votes:

NeoAnderthal: try that link again

http://www.wisn.com/news/south-east-wisconsin/milwaukee/debate-conti nu es-over-cosleeping-deaths-in-milwaukee/-/10148890/22124556/-/12l57ny/- /index.html


You, Sir, are a buffoon among imbeciles. A dunce among dumbasses.
2014-01-17 04:03:38 PM  
2 votes:

OgreMagi: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The immediate rejoinder to that line of asinine thinking is:  "If God chooses whether or not we die, then explain how a God who claims to be compassionate and loving took over a dozen kids at Sandy Hook, execution-style.  What lesson should we all be taking from that?  Go on, we'll wait here for your answer."

Because god is an asshole.


Which God is an asshole?  They tend to confuse the Old Testament God and the New Testament God and pick and choose which attitude God has based on whether they personally agree with the situation.  So he's Old Testament God when we're talking about teh gayz but he's New Testament Hippie God when he supposedly supports the people who are agreeing with you.
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2014-01-17 03:11:47 PM  
2 votes:

Tricky Chicken: Tigger: Tricky Chicken: Well, this could only serve to strengthen the gene pool in the long term. Stupid people letting their kids die and all.

The difference being that a child cannot consent to being a morally bankrupt subhuman shiatstain. An adult conservative like this guy can.

Sadly though, the child carries the stupid gene through no fault of its own. And while repugnant, the stupid parent letting the child die in turn lessens its own detrimental impact on the gene pool. It would be best if the child had never been born, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that these same people are against reproductive rights.


I would say we let it go until they are 21 then just give them a brief test, say, "Is the earth 6,000 years old or a bit more than that" and just shoot the ones that get it wrong on the spot. That way we've given every kid a fair chance but we've also got rid of our country's biggest problem all in one go.
2014-01-17 03:04:36 PM  
2 votes:

NeoAnderthal: Democrats only care about this story because of the religious implications. They don't care so much about dead children. There are plenty of cases to point that out.

cosleeping-deaths-in-milwaukee

No charges, ever.


Uh-huh

It's a godless Democratic plot to interfere with religious parents and their right to refuse to provide their children with medical care instead of relying solely on prayer. You know this because Democrats didn't mandate government intrusion into the sleeping arrangements of families in general.

I'm surprised you didn't post that by passing child-safety laws for backyard pools, where children drown with horrible regularity, that the Democrats are anti-baptism.
2014-01-17 02:54:39 PM  
2 votes:
Because what God loves is dead babies.  How many "Christians" are aware that they're actually worshiping Nurgle?
2014-01-18 07:13:07 AM  
1 votes:
I agree with Rep Perry. When Abraham went to kill his son because he heard the voice of God in his head, did the nanny state intervene? No! The only thing that saved his son's life was the voice in his head saying "just kidding, murder a sheep instead". And lo, Abraham saw that hunting was good, and that's how we got the Second Amendment. So we can't pass this law because it's just the first step on a slippery slope to the liberals taking our guns.
2014-01-17 04:44:46 PM  
1 votes:

pacified: debug: Let them die. We're better off if these people don't have offspring.

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Agrees


Well played sir, well played!
2014-01-17 04:40:21 PM  
1 votes:

Tigger: It's a gerundive - they are one of my favorite things.


Me, too. Gerundives are right up there with Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
2014-01-17 04:29:03 PM  
1 votes:

debug: Let them die. We're better off if these people don't have offspring.


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Agrees
2014-01-17 04:05:23 PM  
1 votes:

Janusdog: OgreMagi: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The immediate rejoinder to that line of asinine thinking is:  "If God chooses whether or not we die, then explain how a God who claims to be compassionate and loving took over a dozen kids at Sandy Hook, execution-style.  What lesson should we all be taking from that?  Go on, we'll wait here for your answer."

Because god is an asshole.

Which God is an asshole?  They tend to confuse the Old Testament God and the New Testament God and pick and choose which attitude God has based on whether they personally agree with the situation.  So he's Old Testament God when we're talking about teh gayz but he's New Testament Hippie God when he supposedly supports the people who are agreeing with you.
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Same God. He's totally bipolar, but it takes a loooong time between phases.
2014-01-17 04:00:47 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology or lack thereof I think we all can agree that anyone who lets a child die of a treatable disease or injury will end up getting booked for the next thousand forevers in the suite by the poorly-maintained elevator in the wing of Hell Towers where the Rebecca Black concert never ends, the TV is permanently tuned to the Small Wonder marathon, the kitchen is out of everything but the Danny DeVito Anus Pie and the duodecahedron-penised rapenocerous just downed a Chevy-Tahoe-sized meth-and-Cialis capsule.




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2014-01-17 03:43:26 PM  
1 votes:
damn, I meant to say, sort of like this, but substitute parent for employer
2014-01-17 03:42:03 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-01-17 03:38:05 PM  
1 votes:
Republican lawmaker serves Kool Aid to children. Film at 11.
2014-01-17 03:28:28 PM  
1 votes:
Because God is utterly helpless in the face a bottle of tamaflu and unable to smite your ass call you home?
2014-01-17 03:27:14 PM  
1 votes:
Religious rights, like all other rights, are not absolute and they can and should be curtailed in an appropriate manner when you begin to exercise them in ways that endanger others or otherwise impede others' rights.

This is not debatable.

blindio: So they believe in a god that is not powerful enough to call people to paradise if they're on antibiotics?


Sounds legit.


People who use medicine are evil and therefore going to hell so why would god be calling them up?

QED logic-guy. Q. E. To the motherfarking D.
2014-01-17 03:17:28 PM  
1 votes:

Delawheredad: He MIGHT have a point in the proposed law violating the religious liberty of the parents.


Just as homicide laws violate the religious liberty of islamic parents who claim that their religion requires them to honor-kill their daughters.

Neither will the government let me build a wicker statue, stuff it full of my enemies, and set it on fire.
2014-01-17 03:02:31 PM  
1 votes:

Carn: Because what God loves is dead babies.  How many "Christians" are aware that they're actually worshiping Nurgle?


Of course he likes them. How else do you think he makes all those cherubs?
2014-01-17 02:57:50 PM  
1 votes:
Objective reality disagrees with your religion?  Who cares?  Just kill your kids anyways!
2014-01-17 02:57:30 PM  
1 votes:
"Pro-Life"
2014-01-17 02:54:32 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology or lack thereof I think we all can agree that anyone who lets a child die of a treatable disease or injury will end up getting booked for the next thousand forevers in the suite by the poorly-maintained elevator in the wing of Hell Towers where the Rebecca Black concert never ends, the TV is permanently tuned to the Small Wonder marathon, the kitchen is out of everything but the Danny DeVito Anus Pie and the duodecahedron-penised rapenocerous just downed a Chevy-Tahoe-sized meth-and-Cialis capsule.


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2014-01-17 02:53:38 PM  
1 votes:
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"Didn't  mean to kill him. I just shot him. Him dying was between him and the Almighty."
2014-01-17 02:32:12 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: No matter one's personal theology or lack thereof I think we all can agree that anyone who lets a child die of a treatable disease or injury will end up getting booked for the next thousand forevers in the suite by the poorly-maintained elevator in the wing of Hell Towers where the Rebecca Black concert never ends, the TV is permanently tuned to the Small Wonder marathon, the kitchen is out of everything but the Danny DeVito Anus Pie and the duodecahedron-penised rapenocerous just downed a Chevy-Tahoe-sized meth-and-Cialis capsule.


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2014-01-17 02:27:05 PM  
1 votes:

serpent_sky: If they believe in God and that God is SO in control of everything, how can they not believe that he gave people the knowledge and ability to practice medicine and save lives? There's such a huge disconnect there.


 I have made that precise argument to more than one hardcore evangelical in a mostly vain attempt to convince them that Science and Christianity are in no way incompatible and in fact Western science was developed BECAUSE of Christianity*. I point out that when Jesus prophesier in Matthew 17:
These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues;  18they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

That this was NOT as the "Snake Handlers" would have it, a magical grant of power, but a foretelling of the wonders that science would eventually bring. as we can do all those things now thanks to science.

To see the hand of God in all creation EXCEPT modern medicine is deeply irrational to me,   It reminds me of the old joke about the preacher and the flood:


It was flooding in California. As the flood waters were rising, a pastor was on the stoop of his church and another man in a row boat came by. The man in the row boat told the preacher  to get in and he'd save him. The Preacher   said:
"no, I havefaith in God and I know he will provide".

 The flood waters kept rising and the preacher had to go to the choir loft of the church. A man in a motor boat came by and told the preacher to get in because he had come to rescue him. The preacher said "no thank you. My faith is strong and I trust in god to rescue me"

 The flood waters kept rising. Pretty soon they were up to the steeple of theChurch and thepreacher was left clinging to it for dear life.  A helicopter then came by, lowered a rope and the pilot shouted down in  to climb up the rope because thehelicopter had come to rescue him.

The preacher refused, saying God was testing him but his faith wasunshakable and he knew god would save him.  The flood waters kept rising and preacher  drowned. When he got to heaven, he asked God where he went wrong. He told God that he had perfect faith in Him,  So why had God had let him drown?

God says to the man
"What more do you want from me?, I sent you two boats and a helicopter."


*(Monotheism is somewhat pre-requisite to believing that universe in the world operate in a rational, predictable and repeatable.   Unless you believe that god is irrational or psychotic, you will assume that there is a rational pattern to his actions, searching after those "natural laws" by Aquinas and others led to the development of the logical tools that became the, eventually, the scientific method)
2014-01-17 01:59:25 PM  
1 votes:

Calmamity: Lot's of childhood maladies, if not treated properly and in a timely manner, can cause irreparable brain damage if the child survives.


Which explains the greater voting population of Utah, Alabama, Texas, Georgia, both Carolinas, etc, etc,
2014-01-17 01:53:31 PM  
1 votes:

what_now: We're you dropped on your head?


Lot's of childhood maladies, if not treated properly and in a timely manner, can cause irreparable brain damage if the child survives.

Just saying.
2014-01-17 01:50:30 PM  
1 votes:

NeoAnderthal: try that link again

http://www.wisn.com/news/south-east-wisconsin/milwaukee/debate-conti nu es-over-cosleeping-deaths-in-milwaukee/-/10148890/22124556/-/12l57ny/- /index.html


So...your argument is that accidental deaths due to co-sleeping, is the same as willful neglect? And somehow, the liberals are to blame?

We're you dropped on your head?
2014-01-17 01:35:00 PM  
1 votes:
Rep. Perry, please step out in front of a speeding bus. By your reasoning, if God wants you to live, it won't hurt you.
2014-01-17 01:34:33 PM  
1 votes:
"Only God is in control of whether we live or die. Now, if you'll excuse me, my constituents need MOAR GUNS."
2014-01-17 01:26:29 PM  
1 votes:
I saw this on Law and Order once.
 
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