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(The Wire)   Though it's difficult to see how that's possible, new surgeon general's report say that smoking is even WORSE for you than previously thought; linking it to diabetes complications, birth defects, auto-immune diseases, and even tuberculosis   (thewire.com) divider line 26
    More: Scary, diabetes complications, autoimmune diseases, birth defects, tuberculosis, American Diabetes Association, liver cancers  
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2014-01-17 12:16:50 PM  
3 votes:
Is it really the smoking or is all the chemical additives?
2014-01-17 12:11:49 PM  
3 votes:
sounds like they're gearing up for another round of taxes
you know for the chirruns
2014-01-17 12:06:43 PM  
3 votes:
Hard to imagine that constantly inhaling smoke particles from industrially processed plant leaves that can be used as an insecticide could be harmful. The amazing list of additives in cigarettes compared to plain old tobacco leaves is really super not healthy.
2014-01-17 02:42:21 PM  
2 votes:
I smoke but try to be polite and stay away from non-smokers.  It's my choice to smoke.  As far as the smell afterwards, tough sh*t.  I have to put up with over cologned or over perfumed  people or those who eat stinky food or don't wash often enough.  I have to put up with you on your cellphones or with your screaming brats in tow.  It's called tolerance people.  Here's a deal for you.  You stop procreating and I'll quit smoking.  Until then, STFU.
2014-01-17 12:09:25 PM  
2 votes:

m3000: Does it cause assholes too, or do smokers just start out that way?

/the smoke doesn't magically disappear just because your outside
// amazed at how often smokers are offended when I politely ask them not to light up since it's blowing right at me


I guess that's much easier than just moving upwind from them.  Do you also politely ask drivers to not allow their cars to run around you?
2014-01-17 12:02:42 PM  
2 votes:
So? Anybody still smoking obviously doesn't give a shiat.
2014-01-17 02:06:02 PM  
1 votes:

m3000: Does it cause assholes too, or do smokers just start out that way?

/the smoke doesn't magically disappear just because your outside
// amazed at how often smokers are offended when I politely ask them not to light up since it's blowing right at me


there is no polite way to ask people to bend to your will

why don't you try moving away?

you sound as pleasant as a hemorrhoid
2014-01-17 01:54:24 PM  
1 votes:
Just popped in to be the asshole who says, "I quit cold turkey last July, and if my whiny ass can do it, no one else has any excuse." So there.
2014-01-17 01:30:07 PM  
1 votes:

evilmousse: "Smoking has ZERO positive effects." iduno, at least it pisses off the rubes.


That's not what the marijuana smoking contingnet says.  Marijuana smoke contians magical illness-curing hunger fog that is 100% biodegradable.
2014-01-17 01:20:57 PM  
1 votes:

Perrybucsdad: So basically, smoking can cause every known malady to mankind except anal seepage.... well, that's good news at least.


I'd have to disagree...

I smoked a couple cigs a day for about a year...  One of the things I miss was waking up in the morning and having a cup of coffee and a few drags.  Because I knew the combination would cause my lower GI to suddenly wake up and start screaming "YOU POOP NOW!!!1!!"  Some days it was a good ten minutes that sounded like lumpy gravy being shot out of a high pressure hose into a half full fishtank.

But yeah, the cancer and inability to climb a set of stairs without wheezing isn't a good trade off for being able to take a massive dump at will.
2014-01-17 01:05:58 PM  
1 votes:

CtrlAltDestroy: Smoking has ZERO positive effects. It only as negative effects. And no, the calming effect or pleasurable rush you get from taking a drag is not a positive effect. The temporary removal of withdraw symptoms is not the same as an actual good thing.

Seriously, all smoking does is worsen your health and bother others. What the point? Why continue to do it? Although I know the most common reasons. Because breaking addiction is too hard and/or they just don't care.


CtrlAltDestroy: And no, the calming effect or pleasurable rush you get from taking a drag is not a positive effect


CtrlAltDestroy: calming effect or pleasurable rush


iat also acts as a stimulant shortly after waking and a depressant shortly before sleep. It can provide something to do during otherwise idle time. Having grown up around tobacco curing barns, I enjoy the smell. There's a conditioning aspect involved with habitual use (smoke during idle time, the act of smoking itself becomes a calming activity), and there are very few things in this world as awesome as that first cigarette when you wake up. Because reasons.

You can find substitutes or contest the merits of any particular point of enjoyment involved with tobacco use, but there's a reason people have been consuming it for a very long time wherever it grows naturally. It is an overall pleasurable activity, though some people work very hard to make it not so. Has its time passed in modern society? Perhaps, but to argue that it's a pleasure-less activity with no benefits at all is ignorant or dishonest.
2014-01-17 12:54:59 PM  
1 votes:
Is that right? Who's done more research on the subject than the good people at the American Tobacco Industry? They say it's harmless. Why would they lie? If you're dead, you can't smoke.
2014-01-17 12:44:24 PM  
1 votes:

FunkOut: Hard to imagine that constantly inhaling smoke particles from industrially processed plant leaves that can be used as an insecticide could be harmful. The amazing list of additives in cigarettes compared to plain old tobacco leaves is really super not healthy.


Smokers need to start smoking this brand
www.sweetmedicineshoppe.com
2014-01-17 12:43:08 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: m3000: Does it cause assholes too, or do smokers just start out that way?

/the smoke doesn't magically disappear just because your outside
// amazed at how often smokers are offended when I politely ask them not to light up since it's blowing right at me

Oh, god.

Stand somewhere else and get on with your life. You sound like my sister.


By that logic, I should be able to stand anywhere I want and engage in my hobby of spraying pesticides in the air. If you don't like it, move along.

It's a shame your sister got all the brains in your family.
2014-01-17 12:38:17 PM  
1 votes:

Crudbucket: So? Anybody still smoking obviously doesn't give a shiat.


This, I'm trying to run out the clock and die as fast as possible. Stop trying to make me live to 90.
2014-01-17 12:38:05 PM  
1 votes:

Onkel Buck: m3000: Does it cause assholes too, or do smokers just start out that way?

/the smoke doesn't magically disappear just because your outside
// amazed at how often smokers are offended when I politely ask them not to light up since it's blowing right at me

You sound like more of an asshole than any reformed smoker I've ever met. Could you not post while I'm in here? It bothers me.


Probably dumps a bottle or two of cheap cologne or aftershave and makes EVERYONE sick.

/Can't even take an elevator after these smelly, inconsiderate, "let me share my perfume with everyone!" people. They're even less considerate than the jerks who don't turn off the LOUD, BASS-THUMPING music at the gas pump or drive-thru.
2014-01-17 12:28:13 PM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: FunkOut: Hard to imagine that constantly inhaling smoke particles from industrially processed plant leaves that can be used as an insecticide could be harmful.

Look, we get it that smoking is bad, but the fact that nicotine is used by plants as a defense against insects isn't in of itself anything to freak out about.

This just makes you sound like one of those ZOMG CHEMICALS people.  I would avoid it.


No, it doesn't. That hysterical panicky tone is something you imagined. Try reading it in a dry, sarcastic tone. Seriously, inhaling smoke particles from a chemically treated inedible plant? Very silly idea.

I'm speaking as a gardener and someone who took biology courses pertaining to agricultural pest management. Speaking of pesticides, tobacco needs a heavy hand with the sprays to keep away aphids - those little buggers will bite the leaves, leaving open sores than can be gateways for tobacco mosaic virus, that prolific decimator of Solancaea crops.
2014-01-17 12:19:08 PM  
1 votes:
~~Denis Leary: It doesn't matter how big the warnings on the cigarettes are; you could have a black pack, with a skull and crossbones on the front, called TUMORS, and smokers would be around the block going, "I can't wait to get my hands on these farking things! I bet ya get a tumor as soon as you light up!"

//while it may help discourage some, there will always be people who smoke no matter what the consequence.
//just like many other negative behaviours that humans engage
2014-01-17 12:19:06 PM  
1 votes:

m3000: Does it cause assholes too, or do smokers just start out that way?

/the smoke doesn't magically disappear just because your outside
// amazed at how often smokers are offended when I politely ask them not to light up since it's blowing right at me


My wants > your wants + I need my next nicotine fix = asshat smoker.

The one's who realize that most non smokers find the effects of their drug addiction (smell from smoke, etc) to be something from unpleasant to vile tend to be kind enough to stick to the golden rule. Don't annoy others as you wouldn't want to be annoyed. They're not smoke around others or stand downwind or something to that effect.

It's the entitled dick bags who I have a problem with. The ones who think that their desire to smoke comes before all, that no one could possible find it to be so offensive to their senses, and that you simply don't matter when their wants come into play that need to die in a fire.

Smokers, please remember that the smell lingers. You might not be able to smell it anymore, as your often engulfed in it and your senses deaden to it, but non smokers absolutely can. It embeds itself in your clothes, in your car, and in the very walls. I used to be able to tell which co-worker was walking behind me at my desk fresh from a smoke break by what kind of cigarettes they smelled like. My mom had a box of documents in her bedroom in a cabinet. She used to smoke in there a lot. Years later, when that box spent a decade in storage I opened it to look for something and was hit hard by the smell of cigarette smoke. My ex knew when I came back from visiting my mom because she could smell the lingering smoke on my clothes simply from being in her house.

Many of us find it to be quite unpleasant. If you don't then don't be a douche about it. It's no different than complaining about the person in the next apartment playing loud music all night.

Smoking has ZERO positive effects. It only as negative effects. And no, the calming effect or pleasurable rush you get from taking a drag is not a positive effect. The temporary removal of withdraw symptoms is not the same as an actual good thing.

Seriously, all smoking does is worsen your health and bother others. What the point? Why continue to do it? Although I know the most common reasons. Because breaking addiction is too hard and/or they just don't care.

Meh.
2014-01-17 12:17:01 PM  
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: ikanreed: It's crazy to me that I haven't started seeing crazy rants comparing rationalwiki to conservapedia.

Oh, they're out there. Mainly from people who are hurt about their "State of Conservapedia" this week features.

The good thing is, however, the history of the heartland institute and their whoring of the "healthiness of smoking", back before they got into climate change denialism, is well documented.


I just can't imagine being an academic roped into using your years of hard work getting a PhD for putting a nice label on lies.  I get the institute, but I don't get the people who work there.
2014-01-17 12:12:40 PM  
1 votes:
Why does the media have such a bias against smoking?

I mean, you never hear any POSITIVE stories about it. Just once, could they remind us that smoking makes you look cool?

C'mon, now.
2014-01-17 12:12:11 PM  
1 votes:

stevenboof: m3000: Does it cause assholes too, or do smokers just start out that way?

/the smoke doesn't magically disappear just because your outside
// amazed at how often smokers are offended when I politely ask them not to light up since it's blowing right at me

I guess that's much easier than just moving upwind from them.  Do you also politely ask drivers to not allow their cars to run around you?


I'm sure it's always blowing right at him, no matter where he's standing
2014-01-17 12:10:10 PM  
1 votes:
Somebody tell Jenny McCarthy that second-hand smoke causes autism. We'll have every mouth-breathing home schooler aboard the anti-smoking train before you can say, "No, it doesn't, farknuts."
2014-01-17 12:08:21 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, smoking is as bad for you as being obese...
2014-01-17 12:03:31 PM  
1 votes:
Does it cause assholes too, or do smokers just start out that way?

/the smoke doesn't magically disappear just because your outside
// amazed at how often smokers are offended when I politely ask them not to light up since it's blowing right at me
2014-01-17 11:38:34 AM  
1 votes:
POPPY COCK AND BALDERDASH.

I have a report here from the Heartland Institute, a group which is of immense repute I assure you, Sir, that says smoking actually contributes to long life, cures cancer, and makes your heart stronger.

Your "scientific research" is just part of Big Government, Sir! Wake up, sheeplemitter.
 
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