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2014-01-17 09:54:36 AM  
So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.
 
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2014-01-17 10:01:31 AM  
Obviously they lost all those Westboro Baptist sympathizers who promised to boycott A&E when Mr. Duck was first suspended.
 
2014-01-17 10:21:51 AM  
They had kept their right-wing crap out of the show.  It was an outside source that brought it in.

I'm sure the ratings will continue to fall - you can only do silly skits for so long before nobody cares... or you could be Saturday Night Live.
 
2014-01-17 10:29:58 AM  

bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.


Phil Robertson is an outside source?
 
2014-01-17 10:34:53 AM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


Which in no way changes the fact that Duck Dynasty's ratings dropped 28% from last season's premiere. But hey, you talked about a lot of unrelated stuff!
 
2014-01-17 10:50:00 AM  
I love how Jesus America thinks it's totally okay to say stupid racist things if you also say stupid homophobic things.
 
2014-01-17 11:25:47 AM  

Blues_X: I love how Jesus America thinks it's totally okay to say stupid racist things if you also say stupid homophobic things.


If your goal was to come across as stupid, congrats.
 
2014-01-17 11:39:44 AM  
Here's the thing: after the Chick-fil-A flap, you had people lining up around the block to go there to show support.  The right wing derp blogs were crowing about how ratings were going to be higher than ever after this because Real 'Muricans were tired of the libs telling them what to watch.

That said, my guess is it has more to do with people just getting tired of the show. Oh, what crazy things are these bearded rednecks gonna do this week?
 
2014-01-17 11:48:03 AM  

bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.


Damn that cagey GQ magazine for forcing Robertson into that interview and making him say those horrible things!
 
2014-01-17 11:49:00 AM  
"I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash."

And topping today's "Not Helping" list...
 
2014-01-17 11:50:55 AM  
That show has been on the air for four seasons? Jesus.
 
2014-01-17 11:57:50 AM  

Lando Lincoln: That show has been on the air for four seasons? Jesus.


Yeah, but they're British seasons of, like, 8 to 12 episodes, and there's probably more than one season per year.
 
2014-01-17 12:03:26 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year. How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows? If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is! Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


He's not going to f*ck you, dude. I would think that would be particularly clear in this situation.
 
2014-01-17 12:06:47 PM  
Some people don't want to watch dickheads. Soon they'll be cancelled an they'll all shave again to look respectable and run their business.
 
2014-01-17 12:11:34 PM  
It's all in the wording...

Headline from Chicago Tribune:
'Duck Dynasty' season premiere gets ratings boost following controversy

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-01-16/entertainment/chi-duck -d ynasty-season-premiere-ratings-20140116_1_duck-dynasty-phil-robertson- 8-5-million-total-viewers

jake_lex: Here's the thing: after the Chick-fil-A flap, you had people lining up around the block to go there to show support.  The right wing derp blogs were crowing about how ratings were going to be higher than ever after this because Real 'Muricans were tired of the libs telling them what to watch.

That said, my guess is it has more to do with people just getting tired of the show. Oh, what crazy things are these bearded rednecks gonna do this week?


One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.
 
2014-01-17 12:23:14 PM  

superdolfan1: Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings. They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be


Really? Church on Wednesday night is a thing? That's news to me.

Anyway it doesn't matter. The show has probably blown its load. The audience isn't all "Real Murcans"; a lot of people watch just to jape at the rednecks. When the controversy shined a light on the family and revealed that they were actually clean cut blow dried preppies with fake beards, probably a lot of the appeal dried up.

The show will be a distant memory from popular media in a year or so.
 
2014-01-17 12:36:22 PM  

gilgigamesh: superdolfan1: Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings. They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be

Really? Church on Wednesday night is a thing? That's news to me.

Anyway it doesn't matter. The show has probably blown its load. The audience isn't all "Real Murcans"; a lot of people watch just to jape at the rednecks. When the controversy shined a light on the family and revealed that they were actually clean cut blow dried preppies with fake beards, probably a lot of the appeal dried up.

The show will be a distant memory from popular media in a year or so.


Yeah, church on Wednesdays is a thing in the South.  A big thing.

And regarding the distant memory thing...you may be right. But there's a bunch of long bearded rednecks laughing all the way to the bank.  Only in America.
 
2014-01-17 12:37:53 PM  

superdolfan1: Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


All of those shows have something that Duck Dynasty, Honey Boo-boo, Storage Wars, Pawn Stars, and other scripted reality shows don't have: syndication, DVD sales, and streaming license sales that matter.  All of the scripted reality shows are very popular when they first air, but all of those other shows have a fan base that will want to "catch up" on seasons on Netflix, Amazon, and even buy DVD seasons for stocking stuffers, making the investment the networks put up for those scripted shows worth more than just the broadcast commercials.   And broadcast is dying.

I'm speaking very anecdotally, I don't have hard research to back any of this up, and yes I am aware that Duck Dynasty and those other shows are available on Amazon (they keep all those sales private). But I'm betting that the income networks get from streaming/DVD/syndication sales is much less for Duck Dynasty-class shows than what A&E gets from advertisers when they first air.
 
2014-01-17 12:58:58 PM  

superdolfan1: One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.


It's more than just that premiere. This premiere is down 1 million from last season's AVERAGE.  That doesn't bode well.
 
2014-01-17 01:01:42 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.



It's called a trend. It went down. A lot. You can be sure that A&E and the show's producers are not thrilled right now. A 28% ratings drop, and I think a 33% drop in the demo, from last year's season premiere is going to concern everyone involved with the series.
 
2014-01-17 01:01:43 PM  
Maybe it was just people realizing that the show is mindless crap.
 
2014-01-17 01:02:42 PM  
Time to go dig up a new family of gullible rednecks and put them on TV
 
2014-01-17 01:03:16 PM  
8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings.
 
2014-01-17 01:03:43 PM  
Wrong. The ratings are down because people protested A&E's disgusting treatment of a Christian American.
 
2014-01-17 01:03:47 PM  
Clearly the viewers are violating the Robertsons' first amendment rights, and something should be done!
 
2014-01-17 01:05:14 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family

cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

assets-s3.usmagazine.com
 
2014-01-17 01:06:13 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.

Phil Robertson is an outside source?


I suppose the outside source is the one who asked him to speak his mind... such that it is.
 
2014-01-17 01:06:33 PM  
The free market is all fine and good until it hampers conservatives.
 
2014-01-17 01:06:34 PM  
MyRandomName: 8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings. I don't know how to calculate percentages.
 
2014-01-17 01:07:12 PM  

Hollie Maea: superdolfan1: One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.

It's more than just that premiere. This premiere is down 1 million from last season's AVERAGE.  That doesn't bode well.


Bing has gained 5% of market share. Google is doomed.
 
2014-01-17 01:08:32 PM  
stop killing ducks.
 
2014-01-17 01:09:13 PM  

Lord_Baull: MyRandomName: 8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings. I don't know how to calculate percentages.


Lol. Coming from a liberal that is funny. Do you believe there are fluctuations in viewership naturally? Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance? Viewers from year to year always vary.
 
2014-01-17 01:10:23 PM  
HA!  Where are all the people who thought it was all a publicity stunt?  Did you really believe that lazy bit of rationalization?  Or were you just trying to diminish what happened?  Like when other cultural leaders such as Limbaugh or Coulter say something insanely idiotic and get the "just an entertainer" bailout?*

I said it while this was going on...they had NOTHING to gain in this.  It was not going to attract new fans, and would only push away those who were borderline curious to begin with.

Just accept that people like this exist and, surprise, they have no social filter.


*(entertainers may speak about politics if they are conservative...liberal entertainers need to STFU and do their jobs!)
 
2014-01-17 01:11:14 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


So did Jersey Shore once upon a time. How's that show going now?

DD is dead. It just doesn't know it yet. Once the hype of, "lets piss off the liberals by watching" ends, this show will be cancelled and all the 'reality stars' on it forgotten.
 
2014-01-17 01:12:02 PM  

StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV


I never really understood the defense of this program since it's nothing more than a redneck minstrel show.
 
2014-01-17 01:13:08 PM  
I wonder if they're excited for the show to end so they can shave their beards?
 
2014-01-17 01:13:58 PM  

Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

I never really understood the defense of this program since it's nothing more than a redneck minstrel show.


Al Sharpton and Rachel Maddox frown on your racial pejorative.
 
2014-01-17 01:13:59 PM  

MyRandomName: Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance?


Yes. Please show me the ratings tumble in the fifth year of the following shows:

MASH
Simpsons
60 Minutes
Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom
Honey Boo Boo
Seinfeld
Friends
Married with Children
 
2014-01-17 01:14:20 PM  

Diogenes: bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.

Damn that cagey GQ magazine for forcing Robertson into that interview and making him say those horrible things!


In fairness, red warning signals should have gone of in some A&E PR persons head when they saw the name "Drew Magary".
 
2014-01-17 01:14:32 PM  
Just combine all the ding-bat shows...

Duck-Boo-Boo-Ancient-Alien-Storage-Loggers

Now THAT  would be a show.
 
2014-01-17 01:15:17 PM  
How many people here actually give a tug about reality television?
 
2014-01-17 01:15:21 PM  

lordjupiter: HA!  Where are all the people who thought it was all a publicity stunt?  Did you really believe that lazy bit of rationalization?  Or were you just trying to diminish what happened?  Like when other cultural leaders such as Limbaugh or Coulter say something insanely idiotic and get the "just an entertainer" bailout?*

I said it while this was going on...they had NOTHING to gain in this.  It was not going to attract new fans, and would only push away those who were borderline curious to begin with.

Just accept that people like this exist and, surprise, they have no social filter.


*(entertainers may speak about politics if they are conservative...liberal entertainers need to STFU and do their jobs!)


Couldn't it have been both? That he really does believe that AND it was a marketing stunt? I still believe that it was. The reaction from A&E fits precisely. First, weird, overblown punishment which they then immediately backed off coinciding with a huge marathon over Christmas and a new season.

Doesn't really matter what it was, but I don't think we can say it was not a marketing stunt.
 
2014-01-17 01:16:23 PM  

MyRandomName: Hollie Maea: superdolfan1: One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.

It's more than just that premiere. This premiere is down 1 million from last season's AVERAGE.  That doesn't bode well.

Bing has gained 5% of market share. Google is doomed.


Yay!  It's Non Sequitur day!
 
2014-01-17 01:16:24 PM  

MyRandomName: Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

I never really understood the defense of this program since it's nothing more than a redneck minstrel show.

Al Sharpton and Rachel Maddox frown on your racial pejorative.


They object to the term "redneck," or are you just making things up again?
 
2014-01-17 01:19:39 PM  
What?  But I was repeatedly assured that Old Phil's views accurately reflected those of the overwhelming majority of Americans - like 90% or something.  Plus isn't God on his side?
 
2014-01-17 01:21:22 PM  
When you want to show support Chik-Fil-A for its neanderthal politics, you can eat there every night to show your solidarity--they'll be happy to take your money. If you want to show support for Duck Dynasty, I suppose you could break into your neighbor's house and put their TV on A&E but beyond that, there's not much you can do. Maybe some sort of counter protest, like boycotting "Say Yes to the Dress." Bust seriously, who cares?
 
2014-01-17 01:21:29 PM  
 
2014-01-17 01:22:23 PM  
This isn't a good sign for the show.  But really, 5 seasons?  Most reality shows get really long in the tooth at that point.  Maybe the execs saw this and prompted the faux controversy.  I'd not be surprised to see the numbers keep trailing off in the weeks ahead.  The numbers are still very high overall, but they're seeing their days as numbered.  No big surprise.
 
2014-01-17 01:25:12 PM  

Hickory-smoked: How many people here actually give a tug about reality television?


If it isn't Project Runway, I'm not interested.
 
2014-01-17 01:25:49 PM  

MyRandomName: Lord_Baull: MyRandomName: 8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings. I don't know how to calculate percentages.

Lol. Coming from a liberal that is funny. Do you believe there are fluctuations in viewership naturally? Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance? Viewers from year to year always vary.


I love the way that you threaten to do that, as though the very threat makes some kind of point, without actually carrying through and doing the exercise.

So the answer is yes, you should list the yearly number of any (any!?) hit TV show if you intend to make a point by doing so, otherwise you're just blowing farts.
 
2014-01-17 01:31:48 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


American Idol had 15.2 million
 
bav
2014-01-17 01:32:35 PM  

bradkanus: They had kept their right-wing crap out of the show.  It was an outside source that brought it in.

I'm sure the ratings will continue to fall - you can only do silly skits for so long before nobody cares... or you could be Saturday Night Live.


There's somebody who still cares about Saturday Night Live?
 
2014-01-17 01:38:10 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


All it takes is a couple percentage points, and those checks suddenly get lowered. A couple more and the show is struck off.

A lot of people don't know how hard it is to start getting ridiculous amounts of money, only to have it start to wither. You get used to having X thousand dollars a week. I guarantee you one thing: if 'ol pappy here 'wrecks' the show paychecks his kids / grand kids will never let him forget it happened. You don't want to be the person that kills the golden goose.

There's always another redneck to put on the teevee.
 
2014-01-17 01:47:57 PM  

Lord_Baull: MyRandomName: Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance?

Yes. Please show me the ratings tumble in the fifth year of the following shows:


Here's the data (IMDB ratings)
MASH
Simpsons
60 Minutes N/A
Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom N/a
Honey Boo Boo (Season 1 only)
Seinfeld
Friends
Married with Children
 
2014-01-17 01:50:40 PM  

Hickory-smoked: How many people here actually give a tug about reality television?


Just 'Chopped'
 
2014-01-17 01:56:57 PM  

justtray: lordjupiter: HA!  Where are all the people who thought it was all a publicity stunt?  Did you really believe that lazy bit of rationalization?  Or were you just trying to diminish what happened?  Like when other cultural leaders such as Limbaugh or Coulter say something insanely idiotic and get the "just an entertainer" bailout?*

I said it while this was going on...they had NOTHING to gain in this.  It was not going to attract new fans, and would only push away those who were borderline curious to begin with.

Just accept that people like this exist and, surprise, they have no social filter.


*(entertainers may speak about politics if they are conservative...liberal entertainers need to STFU and do their jobs!)

Couldn't it have been both? That he really does believe that AND it was a marketing stunt? I still believe that it was. The reaction from A&E fits precisely. First, weird, overblown punishment which they then immediately backed off coinciding with a huge marathon over Christmas and a new season.

Doesn't really matter what it was, but I don't think we can say it was not a marketing stunt.


A&E backed off after the right wing boycott machine started kicking up dust, and the rest of the cast said they wouldn't go on without Duck Moses.  If their marketing people had any hand in this they should all be fired.  But it doesn't make sense that it was.  They're just rednecks with money and a tv show, and sometimes the shiat rednecks say is not going to be PC.  It really is as simple as that.
 
2014-01-17 01:59:22 PM  

BalugaJoe: stop killing ducks.


This.
 
2014-01-17 02:02:40 PM  
Was anyone else totally consumed by a need to sing the original theme song to "The Wayans Brothers," when they read his super racist bit about hoeing cotton in the fields?

Shawn and Marlin in Urkle-esque outfits wearing comically huge Afro wigs skip down the street together:

We're brothers!
And we're happy
And we're singing
and we're colored!
Da da da da!

Gimme a Hug!

*Angry Shawn and Marlin shove camera away*
 
2014-01-17 02:06:49 PM  

sigdiamond2000: But it got better ratings than "Girls," so that means Maria Conchita Alonso is automatically president and Obama has to bask under the Maui sun with Whitman, Price, and Haddad.


That's not such a bad deal for Obama--those were last season's winners!
 
2014-01-17 02:08:24 PM  

StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

[assets-s3.usmagazine.com image 467x382]


you look the exact same as you did 15 years ago?
 
2014-01-17 02:09:48 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: BalugaJoe: stop killing ducks.

This.


Why?
 
2014-01-17 02:12:44 PM  

ManateeGag: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

[assets-s3.usmagazine.com image 467x382]

you look the exact same as you did 15 years ago?


Stop with this. It's not a valid counter argument.

That picture shows that they are not, in fact, rednecks, but actors pretending to be them. Or have you seen many rednecks with frosted tips?

Looks may change, but you don't just get to become a redneck one day. Or wait, that's EXACTLY what they did. And those aren't the only pictures. They're ALL posers. Every single one of them.
 
2014-01-17 02:13:48 PM  

justtray: ManateeGag: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

[assets-s3.usmagazine.com image 467x382]

you look the exact same as you did 15 years ago?

Stop with this. It's not a valid counter argument.

That picture shows that they are not, in fact, rednecks, but actors pretending to be them. Or have you seen many rednecks with frosted tips?

Looks may change, but you don't just get to become a redneck one day. Or wait, that's EXACTLY what they did. And those aren't the only pictures. They're ALL posers. Every single one of them.


So, you're saying they grew out the breads for A&E and soley for A&E?
 
2014-01-17 02:18:53 PM  

justtray: DD is dead. It just doesn't know it yet. Once the hype of, "lets piss off the liberals by watching" ends, this show will be cancelled and all the 'reality stars' on it forgotten.


TV farks dead shows for quite a while, and its not like A&E has a plethora of remotely popular options.
 
2014-01-17 02:19:42 PM  

ManateeGag: So, you're saying they grew out the breads for A&E and soley for A&E?


It was probably more about repping their brand.  I'm not saying they don't LIKE this stuff, but they've concocted a very particular image of themselves as gross backwoods cousin-farking-hicks to sell their products to people that (for whatever reason) find that awesome.
 
2014-01-17 02:24:53 PM  
I had Duck-Fil-A for dinner every night this week, and so did my wife - suck it, libs!
 
2014-01-17 02:27:21 PM  

ManateeGag: ObliqueAsymptote: BalugaJoe: stop killing ducks.

This.

Why?


'Birds feel pain, stress and fear as much as humans and other animals. The suffering caused by recreational duck shooting is unacceptable. Many ducks and other birds are killed for no reason except a gruesome and outdated sense of what is "fun".'

'International evidence shows that between 20% and 40% of ducks and geese that are struck by shotgun pellets are never retrieved, and die lingering deaths.'
http://www.safe.org.nz/Campaigns/Duck-shooting/

'If population control is needed, humane alternatives exist. These include collection of eggs in areas considered overpopulated, which would reduce numbers over time. Farmers can also make use of the bird's natural fear of predators by using crop protection methods such as decoys.'

-
 
2014-01-17 02:27:41 PM  

Super_pope: ManateeGag: So, you're saying they grew out the breads for A&E and soley for A&E?

It was probably more about repping their brand.  I'm not saying they don't LIKE this stuff, but they've concocted a very particular image of themselves as gross backwoods cousin-farking-hicks to sell their products to people that (for whatever reason) find that awesome.


i have no doubt Willie had the idea that no looking like GQ models will help him sell hunting stuff to hunters, but *I'M* saying they did it way before A&E showed up.

But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season.  Or was that story made up for PR purposes?
 
2014-01-17 02:29:21 PM  

Wyalt Derp: I had Duck-Fil-A for dinner every night this week, and so did my wife - suck it, libs!


that sound disgusting and greasy. even if such a place existed, I doubt it would do well.
 
2014-01-17 02:33:21 PM  

lilplatinum: justtray: DD is dead. It just doesn't know it yet. Once the hype of, "lets piss off the liberals by watching" ends, this show will be cancelled and all the 'reality stars' on it forgotten.

TV farks dead shows for quite a while, and its not like A&E has a plethora of remotely popular options.


Yeah, once a show's been on for a few seasons, a network will generally keep milking it for all it's worth long after any reason for its existence has disappeared. Case in point: The Simpsons.
 
2014-01-17 02:33:26 PM  

ManateeGag: justtray: ManateeGag: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

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you look the exact same as you did 15 years ago?

Stop with this. It's not a valid counter argument.

That picture shows that they are not, in fact, rednecks, but actors pretending to be them. Or have you seen many rednecks with frosted tips?

Looks may change, but you don't just get to become a redneck one day. Or wait, that's EXACTLY what they did. And those aren't the only pictures. They're ALL posers. Every single one of them.

So, you're saying they grew out the breads for A&E and soley for A&E?


I'm saying, one day they realized, "all of our consumers are dumb, xenophobic rednecks with strong Christian values, so we should adjust our 'image' to be more in line with their expectations."

Whether or not they did it knowing a TV show is coming is difficult to determine, but it does fit the narrative exceedingly well. The entire show is fabricated and scripted, so I don't see this as a stretch in the slightest if someone were to make that accusation. The truth is probably a blend of both of these paragraphs.
 
2014-01-17 02:35:39 PM  

ManateeGag: justtray: ManateeGag: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

[assets-s3.usmagazine.com image 467x382]

you look the exact same as you did 15 years ago?

Stop with this. It's not a valid counter argument.

That picture shows that they are not, in fact, rednecks, but actors pretending to be them. Or have you seen many rednecks with frosted tips?

Looks may change, but you don't just get to become a redneck one day. Or wait, that's EXACTLY what they did. And those aren't the only pictures. They're ALL posers. Every single one of them.

So, you're saying they grew out the breads for A&E and soley for A&E?


Also - lets ask a better question(s).

Would you watch the show if all the main guys had short frosted tips?
Do you think the show would have as high ratings as it does if they did?
 
2014-01-17 02:36:28 PM  
Or it could be that the show has run its course.  I've probably watched about 10 episodes.  The show only has two plots:  fish out of water and snobs vs. slobs.  There are only so many times you can recycle that.  They've done "taking the girls hunting (aka fish out of water)" several times.  They need better writers.
 
2014-01-17 02:37:49 PM  

ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?


A guy whose nepotism is going to make him just as rich, without any of the brainy damagey.

Along this lines, who the f goes to the NFL instead of MLB. Contracts are way huger in MLB, fully guaranteed, less prone to injury, and there's less players. Still kind of perplexes me.
 
2014-01-17 02:38:13 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Hickory-smoked: How many people here actually give a tug about reality television?

If it isn't Project Runway Under the Gunn, I'm not interested.


FTFM
 
2014-01-17 02:42:09 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: 'Birds feel pain, stress and fear as much as humans and other animals. The suffering caused by recreational duck shooting is unacceptable. Many ducks and other birds are killed for no reason except a gruesome and outdated sense of what is "fun".'

'International evidence shows that between 20% and 40% of ducks and geese that are struck by shotgun pellets are never retrieved, and die lingering deaths.'
http://www.safe.org.nz/Campaigns/Duck-shooting/

'If population control is needed, humane alternatives exist. These include collection of eggs in areas considered overpopulated, which would reduce numbers over time. Farmers can also make use of the bird's natural fear of predators by using crop protection methods such as decoys.'


Fortunately all evidence has shown ducks lack self awareness and are delicious, so the fact that their brains can process sensory feedback is fairly irrelevant.

Pass the foie gras.
 
2014-01-17 02:42:47 PM  

ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?


Also, is this what you were going with? Because you might want to get your facts straight before you start with the ridiculous distortions of reality. Or do you think 1960s NFL is the same as 2010s NFL?

Guy didn't even play his senior season in college, never had any NFL career or even an offer. How much do you think NFL players made in the 1960s exactly?

Just give it up bud, they aren't gonna sleep with you and I'm really sorry your imaginary perception of them was found out to be a lie. I had the same reaction when I found out Santa wasn't real when I was six.
 
2014-01-17 02:43:17 PM  
They're not pure tv phonies, imo.  They could be outdoorsy businessmen with right wing values that went native, or rednecks at heart that gave up trying to look corporate.

Either way, don't care and it doesn't matter.  Course of action is the same.
 
2014-01-17 02:44:37 PM  

justtray: ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?

Also, is this what you were going with? Because you might want to get your facts straight before you start with the ridiculous distortions of reality. Or do you think 1960s NFL is the same as 2010s NFL?

Guy didn't even play his senior season in college, never had any NFL career or even an offer. How much do you think NFL players made in the 1960s exactly?

Just give it up bud, they aren't gonna sleep with you and I'm really sorry your imaginary perception of them was found out to be a lie. I had the same reaction when I found out Santa wasn't real when I was six.


Have you seen Deliverance?  They just might!

/Now let's you just drop dem pants
 
2014-01-17 02:48:17 PM  

justtray: ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?

A guy whose nepotism is going to make him just as rich, without any of the brainy damagey.

Along this lines, who the f goes to the NFL instead of MLB. Contracts are way huger in MLB, fully guaranteed, less prone to injury, and there's less players. Still kind of perplexes me.


Nepotism?  Phil Robertson didn't have children nor did he invent the duck call that started his company when he decided to quit football.  Hard for your son to make you rich when he doesn't exist yet.
 
2014-01-17 02:50:02 PM  

justtray: ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?

Also, is this what you were going with? Because you might want to get your facts straight before you start with the ridiculous distortions of reality. Or do you think 1960s NFL is the same as 2010s NFL?

Guy didn't even play his senior season in college, never had any NFL career or even an offer. How much do you think NFL players made in the 1960s exactly?

Just give it up bud, they aren't gonna sleep with you and I'm really sorry your imaginary perception of them was found out to be a lie. I had the same reaction when I found out Santa wasn't real when I was six.


I don't know, Terry Bradshaw's doing pretty good for himself.

I guess you ran out of arguments since you resorted to accusing me of being gay.
 
2014-01-17 02:54:45 PM  

lilplatinum: ObliqueAsymptote: 'Birds feel pain, stress and fear as much as humans and other animals. The suffering caused by recreational duck shooting is unacceptable. Many ducks and other birds are killed for no reason except a gruesome and outdated sense of what is "fun".'

'International evidence shows that between 20% and 40% of ducks and geese that are struck by shotgun pellets are never retrieved, and die lingering deaths.'
http://www.safe.org.nz/Campaigns/Duck-shooting/

'If population control is needed, humane alternatives exist. These include collection of eggs in areas considered overpopulated, which would reduce numbers over time. Farmers can also make use of the bird's natural fear of predators by using crop protection methods such as decoys.'

Fortunately all evidence has shown ducks lack self awareness and are delicious, so the fact that their brains can process sensory feedback is fairly irrelevant.

Pass the foie gras.


Isn't foie gras from geese that are force fed?
 
2014-01-17 02:55:33 PM  

ManateeGag: justtray: ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?

Also, is this what you were going with? Because you might want to get your facts straight before you start with the ridiculous distortions of reality. Or do you think 1960s NFL is the same as 2010s NFL?

Guy didn't even play his senior season in college, never had any NFL career or even an offer. How much do you think NFL players made in the 1960s exactly?

Just give it up bud, they aren't gonna sleep with you and I'm really sorry your imaginary perception of them was found out to be a lie. I had the same reaction when I found out Santa wasn't real when I was six.

I don't know, Terry Bradshaw's doing pretty good for himself.

I guess you ran out of arguments since you resorted to accusing me of being gay.


Other than misunderstanding which one supposedly had an NFL deal lined up (which turned out to be a lie anyway), all of my arguments absolutely dismantled you.

The fact that you have to attempt to turn an obvious meme into a false attempt at ad hominem shines much more brightly on your inability to debate than mine.

But we both know that. My advice, choose your next words wisely or choose none at all.
 
2014-01-17 03:05:06 PM  

justtray: ManateeGag: justtray: ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?

Also, is this what you were going with? Because you might want to get your facts straight before you start with the ridiculous distortions of reality. Or do you think 1960s NFL is the same as 2010s NFL?

Guy didn't even play his senior season in college, never had any NFL career or even an offer. How much do you think NFL players made in the 1960s exactly?

Just give it up bud, they aren't gonna sleep with you and I'm really sorry your imaginary perception of them was found out to be a lie. I had the same reaction when I found out Santa wasn't real when I was six.

I don't know, Terry Bradshaw's doing pretty good for himself.

I guess you ran out of arguments since you resorted to accusing me of being gay.

Other than misunderstanding which one supposedly had an NFL deal lined up (which turned out to be a lie anyway), all of my arguments absolutely dismantled you.

The fact that you have to attempt to turn an obvious meme into a false attempt at ad hominem shines much more brightly on your inability to debate than mine.

But we both know that. My advice, choose your next words wisely or choose none at all.


I'm not sitting here trying to win an argument on the internet.  I don't give a shiat if you are right or wrong.  you are fighting way harder for this than me.  if it makes you feel better, congratulations, you won.  you are the master debater.
 
2014-01-17 03:11:16 PM  

ladodger34: Isn't foie gras from geese that are force fed?


Duck or goose, fattening up either's liver makes it delicious.
 
2014-01-17 03:12:26 PM  

lilplatinum: ObliqueAsymptote: 'Birds feel pain, stress and fear as much as humans and other animals. The suffering caused by recreational duck shooting is unacceptable. Many ducks and other birds are killed for no reason except a gruesome and outdated sense of what is "fun".'

'International evidence shows that between 20% and 40% of ducks and geese that are struck by shotgun pellets are never retrieved, and die lingering deaths.'
http://www.safe.org.nz/Campaigns/Duck-shooting/

'If population control is needed, humane alternatives exist. These include collection of eggs in areas considered overpopulated, which would reduce numbers over time. Farmers can also make use of the bird's natural fear of predators by using crop protection methods such as decoys.'

Fortunately all evidence has shown ducks lack self awareness and are delicious, so the fact that their brains can process sensory feedback is fairly irrelevant.

Pass the foie gras.


Citation please.
 
2014-01-17 03:16:33 PM  

ManateeGag: have no doubt Willie had the idea that no looking like GQ models will help him sell hunting stuff to hunters, but *I'M* saying they did it way before A&E showed up.


Sure, when they came up with the Duck Commander show years before switching to A&E, they realized their images weren't going to grab as much money as they can make pretending they drink moonshine out of mason jars until they're blind.

They put together a focus group based on dummies who watch the Outdoors Channel (mostly southerners who are too fat and drunk to actually do anything outside) tried their luck, and were told they looked like College Educated Limousine Liberals who couldn't even bait a hook.  So they went as backwoods as possible and suddenly the braindead slobs they showed pilots to were soaking their XXXXL Dale Earnhardt T-shirts with the arms cut off with jism.  That was the look they ran with.
 
2014-01-17 03:18:23 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: lilplatinum: ObliqueAsymptote: 'Birds feel pain, stress and fear as much as humans and other animals. The suffering caused by recreational duck shooting is unacceptable. Many ducks and other birds are killed for no reason except a gruesome and outdated sense of what is "fun".'

'International evidence shows that between 20% and 40% of ducks and geese that are struck by shotgun pellets are never retrieved, and die lingering deaths.'
http://www.safe.org.nz/Campaigns/Duck-shooting/

'If population control is needed, humane alternatives exist. These include collection of eggs in areas considered overpopulated, which would reduce numbers over time. Farmers can also make use of the bird's natural fear of predators by using crop protection methods such as decoys.'

Fortunately all evidence has shown ducks lack self awareness and are delicious, so the fact that their brains can process sensory feedback is fairly irrelevant.

Pass the foie gras.

Citation please.


Google birds mirror test, the only bird that has demonstrated self awareness was some magpie and possibly pigeons.  No evidence that ducks have self awareness, unless you can provide some.

Computers can emulate sensory feedback, that doesn't give something rights.
 
2014-01-17 03:19:42 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


So, some of the other series are up while DD lost viewers. I have to admit that I am surprised that the DD viewers are heading over to Teen Wolf.
 
2014-01-17 03:26:07 PM  

StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

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To be fair, crazy, red-neck grandpa really was a white-trash redneck before he became rich. Once he became rich, that opened the world for his children and grandchildren. So, yeah, they are pretending. But not grandpa.
 
2014-01-17 03:29:40 PM  

Super_pope: ManateeGag: have no doubt Willie had the idea that no looking like GQ models will help him sell hunting stuff to hunters, but *I'M* saying they did it way before A&E showed up.

Sure, when they came up with the Duck Commander show years before switching to A&E, they realized their images weren't going to grab as much money as they can make pretending they drink moonshine out of mason jars until they're blind.

They put together a focus group based on dummies who watch the Outdoors Channel (mostly southerners who are too fat and drunk to actually do anything outside) tried their luck, and were told they looked like College Educated Limousine Liberals who couldn't even bait a hook.  So they went as backwoods as possible and suddenly the braindead slobs they showed pilots to were soaking their XXXXL Dale Earnhardt T-shirts with the arms cut off with jism.  That was the look they ran with.


It's funny though, my father was a hunter for many years, and his look closer resembled GQ Robertsons (minus the frosted tips) than mountain folk Robertsons.
 
2014-01-17 03:30:55 PM  
For a guy who makes a living by holding something in one hand and wrapping his lips around the tip of it, he sure seems like he has issues.

/I wonder if his next career will be sausage maker. Or sword swallower...
 
2014-01-17 03:39:19 PM  

Glenford: Lord_Baull: MyRandomName: Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance?

Yes. Please show me the ratings tumble in the fifth year of the following shows:

Here's the data (IMDB ratings)



As I suspected, no drop off whatsoever in ratings until much, much later in the show's run. Not sure what his point was.
 
2014-01-17 03:40:36 PM  

ManateeGag: It's funny though, my father was a hunter for many years, and his look closer resembled GQ Robertsons (minus the frosted tips) than mountain folk Robertsons.


Some people have this weird fantasy of sports outdoorsmen as these gross low-class clodhoppers who are half Dukes of Hazard and half... I dunno Deliverance?

Most of them have no exposure to that world they just like to sit around fantasizing about their stupid log cabin where the regulators and the tax men couldn't get them, and they'd be free to drink their bathtub liquor and have sex with all their close relations.  Even deep into the appalachians, almost nobody actually looks or acts like that.
 
2014-01-17 03:41:37 PM  

Girl From The North Country: Hickory-smoked: How many people here actually give a tug about reality television?

Just 'Chopped'


"Chopped" is a game show.

TV people don't like to call it that, preferring "competitive reality", but it's exactly the same thing. They have a contest. There is a prize at the end. It's not a "sport", because that would be handled by a different department if it were. Therefore it's a game show.
 
2014-01-17 03:44:50 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: For a guy who makes a living by holding something in one hand and wrapping his lips around the tip of it, he sure seems like he has issues.

/I wonder if his next career will be sausage maker. Or sword swallower...



I'd like to see some of the DD women in the porn industry. Fluffer at the least.
 
2014-01-17 03:51:28 PM  

Diogenes: The free market is all fine and good until it hampers conservatives.


Speaking of ratings and the free market, here are the Better Business Bureau ratings for the Duck Commander company.
 
2014-01-17 03:54:04 PM  
xfinity.comcast.net

Sometimes a duck call is just a duck call.

/other times, it's a clue that maybe there's a tortured soul just longing to go on long camping holidays with the boys...oh wait...nevermind...
 
2014-01-17 04:02:46 PM  

ManateeGag: But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season. Or was that story made up for PR purposes?


Complete BS. The NFL had 17 rounds in those days compared to seven today. I looked it up a few weeks ago. The total number of players drafted was over 400 if I remember correctly and Phil Robertson was not one of them. He may have been invited to training camp by the Redskins, but he would have been just above the tackling dummy on the depth chart before being cut.

/DucKKK Dynasty™ is nothing but a fraud.
//Not surprised.
 
2014-01-17 04:40:34 PM  

Lord_Baull: Wrong. The ratings are down because people protested A&E's disgusting treatment of a Christian American.


img.fark.net
 
2014-01-17 04:51:09 PM  
Could is get my bias confirmed that this is totally because of the outrage and not because the ADHD American public has moved to the next shiny reality show? I can by reading the Fark comments? Awesome!
 
2014-01-17 05:12:28 PM  

bradkanus: They had kept their right-wing crap out of the show.  It was an outside source that brought it in.

I'm sure the ratings will continue to fall - you can only do silly skits for so long before nobody cares... or you could be Saturday Night Live.


Somebody cares about SNL?
 
2014-01-17 05:15:42 PM  

MyRandomName: Lord_Baull: MyRandomName: 8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings. I don't know how to calculate percentages.

Lol. Coming from a liberal that is funny. Do you believe there are fluctuations in viewership naturally? Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance? Viewers from year to year always vary.


Am I to gather noone watches college hoops (in favor of the duck show) now that the season is in full swing?
 
2014-01-17 05:17:54 PM  

js34603: Could is get my bias confirmed that this is totally because of the outrage and not because the ADHD American public has moved to the next shiny reality show? I can by reading the Fark comments? Awesome!



Which shiny new reality show would that be? Wouldn't it have to be at the same time slot for your point to matter?
 
2014-01-17 08:02:19 PM  
Why does this belong in the Politics tab?
 
2014-01-17 09:00:55 PM  
Personally, I don't give a shiat how many crosseyed bucktoothed shotgun-totin' inbred moonshine-slurpin' mental defectives while away their empty, craptastic lives by watching that, or any other, mental sewage reality show.
 
2014-01-17 09:21:25 PM  
Thank you bringing us this raw story. Where else could I turn for unfiltered tv ratings news?
 
2014-01-17 10:57:54 PM  
My only problem with the show is they don't kill enough ducks. Phil's hunting videos from the 90's were awesome duck slaughtering things to behold.
 
2014-01-17 11:22:49 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


8 million viewers and second place is 3.3 million? They are 2.5x ahead of their nearest competitor?

Is that even factually accurate?
 
2014-01-18 12:28:51 AM  
In a nutshell:

static2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-18 02:00:06 AM  

Blues_X: I love how Jesus America thinks it's totally okay to say stupid racist things if you also say stupid homophobic things.


Sorry, I still can't find anywhere statements where Phil Robertson was being racist or homophobic. Can you find a source for me? Hint: you won't be able to.
 
2014-01-18 02:05:55 AM  

ManateeGag: Super_pope: ManateeGag: So, you're saying they grew out the breads for A&E and soley for A&E?

It was probably more about repping their brand.  I'm not saying they don't LIKE this stuff, but they've concocted a very particular image of themselves as gross backwoods cousin-farking-hicks to sell their products to people that (for whatever reason) find that awesome.

i have no doubt Willie had the idea that no looking like GQ models will help him sell hunting stuff to hunters, but *I'M* saying they did it way before A&E showed up.

But seriously, who, other than a die hard redneck, would give up an NFL career because it conflicted with hunting season.  Or was that story made up for PR purposes?


Someone who doesn't worship money? Heaven forbid!
 
2014-01-18 11:16:38 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.

Phil Robertson is an outside source?


Overreaching staffer, etc.
 
2014-01-18 11:20:57 AM  

justtray: ManateeGag: justtray: ManateeGag: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

[assets-s3.usmagazine.com image 467x382]

you look the exact same as you did 15 years ago?

Stop with this. It's not a valid counter argument.

That picture shows that they are not, in fact, rednecks, but actors pretending to be them. Or have you seen many rednecks with frosted tips?

Looks may change, but you don't just get to become a redneck one day. Or wait, that's EXACTLY what they did. And those aren't the only pictures. They're ALL posers. Every single one of them.

So, you're saying they grew out the breads for A&E and soley for A&E?

Also - lets ask a better question(s).

Would you watch the show if all the main guys had short frosted tips?
Do you think the show would have as high ratings as it does if they did?


Um, remember Queer Eye for the Straight Guy?
 
2014-01-18 11:23:24 AM  

TerminalEchoes: Blues_X: I love how Jesus America thinks it's totally okay to say stupid racist things if you also say stupid homophobic things.

Sorry, I still can't find anywhere statements where Phil Robertson was being racist or homophobic. Can you find a source for me? Hint: you won't be able to.


It helps if you search sites other than Fox News and the 700 Club, and are willing and able to engage your brain using something called "critical thinking."
 
2014-01-18 02:31:11 PM  
Brony, my critical thinking skills are just fine. That's exactly why I never found his quotes to be racist or homophobic. Sorry that I refuse to twist what someone says just so it will fit an agenda or be ammo for a feeble shame tactic. He said nothing racist. He said nothing homophobic. Try pulling your head out of your ass, get off the liberal hate-wagon, and think for yourself.
 
2014-01-18 03:21:41 PM  
I'm just glad Phil Robertson's stupid homophobic talk was not rewarded with higher ratings (or even the same) - looks like A&E wasn't so dumb after all!
 
2014-01-18 03:24:43 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Blues_X: I love how Jesus America thinks it's totally okay to say stupid racist things if you also say stupid homophobic things.

Sorry, I still can't find anywhere statements where Phil Robertson was being racist or homophobic. Can you find a source for me? Hint: you won't be able to.


Of course, you really have to bend over backwards to not call Phil Robertson's recent talk racist or homophobic.  You must be some sort of crazy excuse-making acrobat!
 
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