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2014-01-17 09:54:36 AM  
So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.
 
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2014-01-17 10:01:31 AM  
Obviously they lost all those Westboro Baptist sympathizers who promised to boycott A&E when Mr. Duck was first suspended.
 
2014-01-17 10:21:51 AM  
They had kept their right-wing crap out of the show.  It was an outside source that brought it in.

I'm sure the ratings will continue to fall - you can only do silly skits for so long before nobody cares... or you could be Saturday Night Live.
 
2014-01-17 10:29:58 AM  

bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.


Phil Robertson is an outside source?
 
2014-01-17 10:34:53 AM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


Which in no way changes the fact that Duck Dynasty's ratings dropped 28% from last season's premiere. But hey, you talked about a lot of unrelated stuff!
 
2014-01-17 10:50:00 AM  
I love how Jesus America thinks it's totally okay to say stupid racist things if you also say stupid homophobic things.
 
2014-01-17 11:25:47 AM  

Blues_X: I love how Jesus America thinks it's totally okay to say stupid racist things if you also say stupid homophobic things.


If your goal was to come across as stupid, congrats.
 
2014-01-17 11:39:44 AM  
Here's the thing: after the Chick-fil-A flap, you had people lining up around the block to go there to show support.  The right wing derp blogs were crowing about how ratings were going to be higher than ever after this because Real 'Muricans were tired of the libs telling them what to watch.

That said, my guess is it has more to do with people just getting tired of the show. Oh, what crazy things are these bearded rednecks gonna do this week?
 
2014-01-17 11:48:03 AM  

bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.


Damn that cagey GQ magazine for forcing Robertson into that interview and making him say those horrible things!
 
2014-01-17 11:49:00 AM  
"I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash."

And topping today's "Not Helping" list...
 
2014-01-17 11:50:55 AM  
That show has been on the air for four seasons? Jesus.
 
2014-01-17 11:57:50 AM  

Lando Lincoln: That show has been on the air for four seasons? Jesus.


Yeah, but they're British seasons of, like, 8 to 12 episodes, and there's probably more than one season per year.
 
2014-01-17 12:03:26 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year. How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows? If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is! Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


He's not going to f*ck you, dude. I would think that would be particularly clear in this situation.
 
2014-01-17 12:06:47 PM  
Some people don't want to watch dickheads. Soon they'll be cancelled an they'll all shave again to look respectable and run their business.
 
2014-01-17 12:11:34 PM  
It's all in the wording...

Headline from Chicago Tribune:
'Duck Dynasty' season premiere gets ratings boost following controversy

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-01-16/entertainment/chi-duck -d ynasty-season-premiere-ratings-20140116_1_duck-dynasty-phil-robertson- 8-5-million-total-viewers

jake_lex: Here's the thing: after the Chick-fil-A flap, you had people lining up around the block to go there to show support.  The right wing derp blogs were crowing about how ratings were going to be higher than ever after this because Real 'Muricans were tired of the libs telling them what to watch.

That said, my guess is it has more to do with people just getting tired of the show. Oh, what crazy things are these bearded rednecks gonna do this week?


One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.
 
2014-01-17 12:23:14 PM  

superdolfan1: Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings. They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be


Really? Church on Wednesday night is a thing? That's news to me.

Anyway it doesn't matter. The show has probably blown its load. The audience isn't all "Real Murcans"; a lot of people watch just to jape at the rednecks. When the controversy shined a light on the family and revealed that they were actually clean cut blow dried preppies with fake beards, probably a lot of the appeal dried up.

The show will be a distant memory from popular media in a year or so.
 
2014-01-17 12:36:22 PM  

gilgigamesh: superdolfan1: Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings. They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be

Really? Church on Wednesday night is a thing? That's news to me.

Anyway it doesn't matter. The show has probably blown its load. The audience isn't all "Real Murcans"; a lot of people watch just to jape at the rednecks. When the controversy shined a light on the family and revealed that they were actually clean cut blow dried preppies with fake beards, probably a lot of the appeal dried up.

The show will be a distant memory from popular media in a year or so.


Yeah, church on Wednesdays is a thing in the South.  A big thing.

And regarding the distant memory thing...you may be right. But there's a bunch of long bearded rednecks laughing all the way to the bank.  Only in America.
 
2014-01-17 12:37:53 PM  

superdolfan1: Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


All of those shows have something that Duck Dynasty, Honey Boo-boo, Storage Wars, Pawn Stars, and other scripted reality shows don't have: syndication, DVD sales, and streaming license sales that matter.  All of the scripted reality shows are very popular when they first air, but all of those other shows have a fan base that will want to "catch up" on seasons on Netflix, Amazon, and even buy DVD seasons for stocking stuffers, making the investment the networks put up for those scripted shows worth more than just the broadcast commercials.   And broadcast is dying.

I'm speaking very anecdotally, I don't have hard research to back any of this up, and yes I am aware that Duck Dynasty and those other shows are available on Amazon (they keep all those sales private). But I'm betting that the income networks get from streaming/DVD/syndication sales is much less for Duck Dynasty-class shows than what A&E gets from advertisers when they first air.
 
2014-01-17 12:58:58 PM  

superdolfan1: One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.


It's more than just that premiere. This premiere is down 1 million from last season's AVERAGE.  That doesn't bode well.
 
2014-01-17 01:01:42 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.



It's called a trend. It went down. A lot. You can be sure that A&E and the show's producers are not thrilled right now. A 28% ratings drop, and I think a 33% drop in the demo, from last year's season premiere is going to concern everyone involved with the series.
 
2014-01-17 01:01:43 PM  
Maybe it was just people realizing that the show is mindless crap.
 
2014-01-17 01:02:42 PM  
Time to go dig up a new family of gullible rednecks and put them on TV
 
2014-01-17 01:03:16 PM  
8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings.
 
2014-01-17 01:03:43 PM  
Wrong. The ratings are down because people protested A&E's disgusting treatment of a Christian American.
 
2014-01-17 01:03:47 PM  
Clearly the viewers are violating the Robertsons' first amendment rights, and something should be done!
 
2014-01-17 01:05:14 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family

cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

assets-s3.usmagazine.com
 
2014-01-17 01:06:13 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.

Phil Robertson is an outside source?


I suppose the outside source is the one who asked him to speak his mind... such that it is.
 
2014-01-17 01:06:33 PM  
The free market is all fine and good until it hampers conservatives.
 
2014-01-17 01:06:34 PM  
MyRandomName: 8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings. I don't know how to calculate percentages.
 
2014-01-17 01:07:12 PM  

Hollie Maea: superdolfan1: One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.

It's more than just that premiere. This premiere is down 1 million from last season's AVERAGE.  That doesn't bode well.


Bing has gained 5% of market share. Google is doomed.
 
2014-01-17 01:08:32 PM  
stop killing ducks.
 
2014-01-17 01:09:13 PM  

Lord_Baull: MyRandomName: 8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings. I don't know how to calculate percentages.


Lol. Coming from a liberal that is funny. Do you believe there are fluctuations in viewership naturally? Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance? Viewers from year to year always vary.
 
2014-01-17 01:10:23 PM  
HA!  Where are all the people who thought it was all a publicity stunt?  Did you really believe that lazy bit of rationalization?  Or were you just trying to diminish what happened?  Like when other cultural leaders such as Limbaugh or Coulter say something insanely idiotic and get the "just an entertainer" bailout?*

I said it while this was going on...they had NOTHING to gain in this.  It was not going to attract new fans, and would only push away those who were borderline curious to begin with.

Just accept that people like this exist and, surprise, they have no social filter.


*(entertainers may speak about politics if they are conservative...liberal entertainers need to STFU and do their jobs!)
 
2014-01-17 01:11:14 PM  

superdolfan1: So let's see, it had 8 million viewers, which is 28% down from last year.  How does that compare with the rest of the cable shows?  If only there were a service that would give us the numbers for the week...

But wait, there is!  Looks like it beat out pretty much every other cable show out there.

Cable week: HBO's True Detective opened with 2.3 million Sunday, followed by 1 million for two Girls episodes; Showtime's Shameless claimed 1.7 million, followed by House of Lies (842,000) and Episodes (543,000). Tuesday starts: BET's Being Mary Jane (3.3 million); ABC Family's Pretty Little Liars (3.2 million); FX's Justified and OWN's The Haves and Have Nots (2.8 million each); TBS's Cougar Town (1.9 million Tuesday). And MTV's Teen Wolf scored a series-high 2.5 million with Monday's return.


So did Jersey Shore once upon a time. How's that show going now?

DD is dead. It just doesn't know it yet. Once the hype of, "lets piss off the liberals by watching" ends, this show will be cancelled and all the 'reality stars' on it forgotten.
 
2014-01-17 01:12:02 PM  

StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV


I never really understood the defense of this program since it's nothing more than a redneck minstrel show.
 
2014-01-17 01:13:08 PM  
I wonder if they're excited for the show to end so they can shave their beards?
 
2014-01-17 01:13:58 PM  

Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

I never really understood the defense of this program since it's nothing more than a redneck minstrel show.


Al Sharpton and Rachel Maddox frown on your racial pejorative.
 
2014-01-17 01:13:59 PM  

MyRandomName: Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance?


Yes. Please show me the ratings tumble in the fifth year of the following shows:

MASH
Simpsons
60 Minutes
Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom
Honey Boo Boo
Seinfeld
Friends
Married with Children
 
2014-01-17 01:14:20 PM  

Diogenes: bradkanus: It was an outside source that brought it in.

Damn that cagey GQ magazine for forcing Robertson into that interview and making him say those horrible things!


In fairness, red warning signals should have gone of in some A&E PR persons head when they saw the name "Drew Magary".
 
2014-01-17 01:14:32 PM  
Just combine all the ding-bat shows...

Duck-Boo-Boo-Ancient-Alien-Storage-Loggers

Now THAT  would be a show.
 
2014-01-17 01:15:17 PM  
How many people here actually give a tug about reality television?
 
2014-01-17 01:15:21 PM  

lordjupiter: HA!  Where are all the people who thought it was all a publicity stunt?  Did you really believe that lazy bit of rationalization?  Or were you just trying to diminish what happened?  Like when other cultural leaders such as Limbaugh or Coulter say something insanely idiotic and get the "just an entertainer" bailout?*

I said it while this was going on...they had NOTHING to gain in this.  It was not going to attract new fans, and would only push away those who were borderline curious to begin with.

Just accept that people like this exist and, surprise, they have no social filter.


*(entertainers may speak about politics if they are conservative...liberal entertainers need to STFU and do their jobs!)


Couldn't it have been both? That he really does believe that AND it was a marketing stunt? I still believe that it was. The reaction from A&E fits precisely. First, weird, overblown punishment which they then immediately backed off coinciding with a huge marathon over Christmas and a new season.

Doesn't really matter what it was, but I don't think we can say it was not a marketing stunt.
 
2014-01-17 01:16:23 PM  

MyRandomName: Hollie Maea: superdolfan1: One other factor to take in regarding jake_lex's comment:
The season 5 premiere came on a Wednesday.  Season 4 premiere, which "shattered all records" (and is the baseline for the ratings drop) was on August 15, 2013.  A Thursday.  Why does this make a difference?

Well, the "Real 'Muricans" are not at home on Wednesday evenings.  They are at church like all good "Real 'Muricans" should be.  Probably the largest demographic for the show is located in the South, so that would account for the drop in viewers and how it compares to Season 4's premiere.

On Thursday's "Real 'Muricans" are probably at home watching Duck Dynasty.

It's more than just that premiere. This premiere is down 1 million from last season's AVERAGE.  That doesn't bode well.

Bing has gained 5% of market share. Google is doomed.


Yay!  It's Non Sequitur day!
 
2014-01-17 01:16:24 PM  

MyRandomName: Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: Lost Thought 00: Time to go dig up a new family cast of gullible rednecks actors and put them on TV

I never really understood the defense of this program since it's nothing more than a redneck minstrel show.

Al Sharpton and Rachel Maddox frown on your racial pejorative.


They object to the term "redneck," or are you just making things up again?
 
2014-01-17 01:19:39 PM  
What?  But I was repeatedly assured that Old Phil's views accurately reflected those of the overwhelming majority of Americans - like 90% or something.  Plus isn't God on his side?
 
2014-01-17 01:21:22 PM  
When you want to show support Chik-Fil-A for its neanderthal politics, you can eat there every night to show your solidarity--they'll be happy to take your money. If you want to show support for Duck Dynasty, I suppose you could break into your neighbor's house and put their TV on A&E but beyond that, there's not much you can do. Maybe some sort of counter protest, like boycotting "Say Yes to the Dress." Bust seriously, who cares?
 
2014-01-17 01:21:29 PM  
 
2014-01-17 01:22:23 PM  
This isn't a good sign for the show.  But really, 5 seasons?  Most reality shows get really long in the tooth at that point.  Maybe the execs saw this and prompted the faux controversy.  I'd not be surprised to see the numbers keep trailing off in the weeks ahead.  The numbers are still very high overall, but they're seeing their days as numbered.  No big surprise.
 
2014-01-17 01:25:12 PM  

Hickory-smoked: How many people here actually give a tug about reality television?


If it isn't Project Runway, I'm not interested.
 
2014-01-17 01:25:49 PM  

MyRandomName: Lord_Baull: MyRandomName: 8 million viewers. What shiatty ratings. I don't know how to calculate percentages.

Lol. Coming from a liberal that is funny. Do you believe there are fluctuations in viewership naturally? Should I list the yearly numbers of any hit tv show to show your ignorance? Viewers from year to year always vary.


I love the way that you threaten to do that, as though the very threat makes some kind of point, without actually carrying through and doing the exercise.

So the answer is yes, you should list the yearly number of any (any!?) hit TV show if you intend to make a point by doing so, otherwise you're just blowing farts.
 
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