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2014-01-17 08:33:15 AM
Do you have to get up to 100 MPH though?

www.ilovethe80s.com
 
2014-01-17 09:08:57 AM
That looks super-duper comfy and really impressive considering how long ago that was.  However, given that it was in an LS, do we really want to reduce the sensation that "hey I'm driving through a farmers' market and running over hipsters" any more from the target market?
 
2014-01-17 09:34:46 AM
meh. it's no Rolexus.
 
2014-01-17 10:12:20 AM
Screw you speed bump!
 
2014-01-17 10:19:09 AM
Video looks like it was shot a while ago. So why did this technology never come to market? Cost? Reliability/longevity of parts?
 
2014-01-17 10:27:21 AM

DemDave: Video looks like it was shot a while ago. So why did this technology never come to market? Cost? Reliability/longevity of parts?


A full-on active system like this would require some significant sensors that would have to be made ridiculously rugged for OEM use, plus you have all the weight of those motors and/or fluid reservoirs that are a tough sell in the updated CAFE era.  However, active suspension systems are already commonplace in luxury markets.  GM's magneto-rheological system, using suspended ferrous compounds in the damper fluid and varying their viscosity with electromagnetism has been on the market in the CTS and Corvette for a few years.  Ferrari adapted it from them, too.
 
Bf+
2014-01-17 10:32:12 AM
"You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."

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2014-01-17 11:04:14 AM
Suppose you blow out a tire in a deep pothole.  I'd be worried that the system could make you unaware of this, and you'd wreck a rim, maybe this system, and the road, thinking that your car was still in drivable condition.
 
2014-01-17 11:18:08 AM
You knew Bose makes great audio equipment

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2014-01-17 11:28:33 AM
I used to love when KITT did that, or when the wings went out for turbo speed.
 
2014-01-17 11:31:25 AM

hogans: Suppose you blow out a tire in a deep pothole.  I'd be worried that the system could make you unaware of this, and you'd wreck a rim, maybe this system, and the road, thinking that your car was still in drivable condition.


The car still has tire pressure monitoring.  This system may make a blowout a good bit more controllable, though.
 
2014-01-17 11:45:25 AM
I had heard about this before, maybe three or four years ago at least.
 
2014-01-17 12:01:11 PM

Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."

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Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment

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I don't get the Bose hate.

My wife and I purchased a Bose Lifestyle surround sound system about 18 years ago.

Still sounds great, the remote still works and the system still performs just like it did out of the box.
 
2014-01-17 12:23:16 PM

factoryconnection: hogans: Suppose you blow out a tire in a deep pothole.  I'd be worried that the system could make you unaware of this, and you'd wreck a rim, maybe this system, and the road, thinking that your car was still in drivable condition.

The car still has tire pressure monitoring.  This system may make a blowout a good bit more controllable, though.


If they took the blow out in to account they can position the suspension to lift that wheel off the ground much like a low rider can do.  Then you could limp the car to somewhere safe to pull over.
 
2014-01-17 12:48:16 PM

Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment

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0/10--try harder next time.
 
2014-01-17 01:08:53 PM

DemDave: Video looks like it was shot a while ago. So why did this technology never come to market? Cost? Reliability/longevity of parts?


the realization that idiots would lay down in front of it to test it
 
2014-01-17 01:12:12 PM
Originally, this was developed in the 90s.  I saw it on Beyond 2000, or something way back in high school.  Computational power back then was really expensive.  So were sensors that could make accurate guesses about terrain.  I'm betting this could see a revival, if it wasn't scrapped because of how unnerving it is to have no body roll.
 
2014-01-17 01:16:50 PM
How many homeless people can it jump?
 
2014-01-17 01:48:50 PM

Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment

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Used to.
 
2014-01-17 02:12:14 PM

Beerguy: Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."
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Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment
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I don't get the Bose hate.

My wife and I purchased a Bose Lifestyle surround sound system about 18 years ago.
Still sounds great, the remote still works and the system still performs just like it did out of the box.


It's not that Bose doesn't make a decent product - it's that they charge way more than it's worth.  For the same money, you can get something better from a better brand.  People get annoyed by Bose because they're more about marketing.  Similar to another company, starting with an "A"...

Congrats on your 18-year old system, but that's really nothing special.  I have a 30 year old CD player (Magnavox CD-104) running into a 35 year old amplifier (Yamaha B-2) playing through 48 year old speakers (1966 Bozak B-305).  Likewise, my stuff is still considered "new" by the guys who prefer the really classy gear (tube amps from the '60's, old-school mono rigs and full-range theater speakers...)

Still, happy to hear that enjoy your system, because that's all that really matters.
 
2014-01-17 02:54:47 PM

Beerguy: Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."

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Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment

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I don't get the Bose hate.

My wife and I purchased a Bose Lifestyle surround sound system about 18 years ago.

Still sounds great, the remote still works and the system still performs just like it did out of the box.


They're like the Apple of audio.
Functional, but overpriced.
 
2014-01-17 03:03:17 PM
the sales advert below decribes correctly how Bose takes a perfectly good stereo image of a great mix and farks it all up by making the stereo image created by audio engeneering professionals in a studio -  arrive at different times  from multiple sources creating whats called in audio terms "a totaly farked up stereo image"

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2014-01-17 03:08:11 PM
portrait as displayed by a Bose  brand monitor - ( if they made them for your computer )ih1.redbubble.net
 
2014-01-17 03:20:04 PM

Beerguy: Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."

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Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment

[i13.photobucket.com image 250x272]

I don't get the Bose hate.

My wife and I purchased a Bose Lifestyle surround sound system about 18 years ago.

Still sounds great, the remote still works and the system still performs just like it did out of the box.


Audio Fanboys were the prototypes of Apple Fanboys.
 
2014-01-17 03:25:21 PM
Stereo Everywhere!... Isn't that called Mono?

Bose is overpriced, low quality, horrible sound and a sleezy but very effective marketing company.
 
2014-01-17 04:06:26 PM
I did not know they made great audio equipment.

I was under the impression they made great advertisements, so that people who don't know anything about audio would purchase their products at a premium.
 
2014-01-17 04:09:03 PM

Beerguy: Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."

[lolwut.jpg]

Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment

[i13.photobucket.com image 250x272]

I don't get the Bose hate.

My wife and I purchased a Bose Lifestyle surround sound system about 18 years ago.

Still sounds great makes noise, the remote still works and the system still performs just like it did out of the box.


FTFY
 
2014-01-17 04:40:41 PM
I'm curious how it compares to the hydro-pneumatic suspension found on old Citroens and the Mercedes 6.9.
 
2014-01-17 04:52:45 PM

Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."

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I wondered how long it would take for this thread to go there.

Watched the video with Bose headphones on, so I'm getting a kick.   It's better than Sony or Panasonic and at least as good and less expensive as B&O.
 
2014-01-17 05:05:07 PM
Bose claim to fame was compact stereos. For their size they do sound good. not even Bose would argue that you could get a higher end sound if size is not an issue. If you are in a 500 square foot apartment compact becomes worth the price.
 
2014-01-17 05:09:47 PM
BOSE... Better Audio Through Marketing.
 
2014-01-17 06:24:25 PM
Bose products are Beats for white people: overpriced with bloated bass.
 
2014-01-17 06:42:29 PM

dieselfrost: Bose claim to fame was compact stereos. For their size they do sound good. not even Bose would argue that you could get a higher end sound if size is not an issue. If you are in a 500 square foot apartment compact becomes worth the price.


About 30 years ago, Bose was hauling this semi trailer around the country with a small theater.  You went in and sat down and they started their presentation with loud music playing majestically and then they had 2 female models walk up and reveal that the huge speakers in front and behind you were just props and the actual speakers were very tiny.  The models were props too of course.

It was a good show.

Aside from the headphones, Bose speakers blasted music into the backyard when I was a kid.  I had a pair of Bose Roommate speakers in college.

A lot of people like to hate on Bose, but they never offer up a better alternative.  Maybe they just hate everybody.  I don't see anyone rushing to Sony as a better alternative.
 
2014-01-17 07:25:40 PM

gfid: A lot of people like to hate on Bose, but they never offer up a better alternative.


Klipsch. I've had the ProMedia 4.1 (old style) system for going on 15 years now. It's has survived several moves, a couple of them through abusive dorms/college apartments, lightning strikes, brownouts, freezes, condensing humidity, overheating and idiotic "look how loud a noise this can make" demonstrations. It has burned out exactly one resistor on the amp board, that a quick internet search revealed to be a common issue. $1.65 at Radio Shack (and a 15 minute conversation with the cell phone pushing tween behind the counter trying to describe what a resistor is and that i KNEW they sold them somewhere...) and 5 minutes with a soldering iron and the system has been running strong ever since. It can still hit that high clear sound of stressed glass cracking, and still rattle the window panes at 35hz-55hz without bumping or distorting.
 
2014-01-17 07:47:03 PM

LoneVVolf: gfid: A lot of people like to hate on Bose, but they never offer up a better alternative.

Klipsch. I've had the ProMedia 4.1 (old style) system for going on 15 years now.


I have got to say, the best 2.1 speakers I have ever heard are my Klipsch ProMedias from Best Buy. There's a damned good reason that these things have been on the shelf there at BB since as long as I've ever been aware of Best Buy as a company. They are positively amazing, especially now that they've taken a first-ever price cut down to $139 last I saw.
 
2014-01-17 09:46:07 PM

LoneVVolf: gfid: A lot of people like to hate on Bose, but they never offer up a better alternative.

Klipsch. I've had the ProMedia 4.1 (old style) system for going on 15 years now. It's has survived several moves, a couple of them through abusive dorms/college apartments, lightning strikes, brownouts, freezes, condensing humidity, overheating and idiotic "look how loud a noise this can make" demonstrations. It has burned out exactly one resistor on the amp board, that a quick internet search revealed to be a common issue. $1.65 at Radio Shack (and a 15 minute conversation with the cell phone pushing tween behind the counter trying to describe what a resistor is and that i KNEW they sold them somewhere...) and 5 minutes with a soldering iron and the system has been running strong ever since. It can still hit that high clear sound of stressed glass cracking, and still rattle the window panes at 35hz-55hz without bumping or distorting.


Okay, fair enough.

Did you have to explain the color coding of resistors to the cell phone jockey behind the counter?

BTW, my speakers are over 20 years old and have survived numerous moves as well.  I'm not saying they're great speakers or anything (they're not even Bose), but they sound just fine to me.  They're Mitsubishi speakers.  I bought them just before Highland Superstores went out of business.which was shortly before Mitsubishi decided they shouldn't be in the stereo business.

They're loud as shiat if I want them to be and when I do crank it up I'm not exactly sitting in my living room admiring the perfect tone that the speakers are putting out from some man from Utopia.

/Mitsubishi did really suck at making CD players though.
 
2014-01-17 10:05:17 PM

gfid: Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."

[lolwut.jpg]

I wondered how long it would take for this thread to go there.

Watched the video with Bose headphones on, so I'm getting a kick.   It's better than Sony or Panasonic and at least as good and less expensive as B&O.


Sennheiser  and Schure beat the crap out of Bose headphones...and they're roughly the same price.
 
2014-01-17 10:09:17 PM

Kraftwerk Orange: Beerguy: Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."
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Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment
[i13.photobucket.com image 250x272]

I don't get the Bose hate.

My wife and I purchased a Bose Lifestyle surround sound system about 18 years ago.
Still sounds great, the remote still works and the system still performs just like it did out of the box.

It's not that Bose doesn't make a decent product - it's that they charge way more than it's worth.  For the same money, you can get something better from a better brand.  People get annoyed by Bose because they're more about marketing.  Similar to another company, starting with an "A"...

Congrats on your 18-year old system, but that's really nothing special.  I have a 30 year old CD player (Magnavox CD-104) running into a 35 year old amplifier (Yamaha B-2) playing through 48 year old speakers (1966 Bozak B-305).  Likewise, my stuff is still considered "new" by the guys who prefer the really classy gear (tube amps from the '60's, old-school mono rigs and full-range theater speakers...)

Still, happy to hear that enjoy your system, because that's all that really matters.


Hipster-like typing detected.
 
2014-01-17 10:26:03 PM
I did! And I found that on FARK!
 
2014-01-17 11:13:34 PM

gfid: Did you have to explain the color coding of resistors to the cell phone jockey behind the counter?


Not even close. His eyes glazed over while i was just trying to describe what they LOOK LIKE... I finally told him to show me where they keep "the drawers of little pieces" and picked what i needed out of there.
 
2014-01-18 12:10:32 AM
Fake!
 
2014-01-18 12:17:29 AM

thisisyourbrainonFark: Kraftwerk Orange: Beerguy: Bf+: "You knew Bose makes great audio equipment..."
[lolwut.jpg]
Thunderboy: You knew Bose makes great audio equipment
[i13.photobucket.com image 250x272]

I don't get the Bose hate.

My wife and I purchased a Bose Lifestyle surround sound system about 18 years ago.
Still sounds great, the remote still works and the system still performs just like it did out of the box.

It's not that Bose doesn't make a decent product - it's that they charge way more than it's worth.  For the same money, you can get something better from a better brand.  People get annoyed by Bose because they're more about marketing.  Similar to another company, starting with an "A"...

Congrats on your 18-year old system, but that's really nothing special.  I have a 30 year old CD player (Magnavox CD-104) running into a 35 year old amplifier (Yamaha B-2) playing through 48 year old speakers (1966 Bozak B-305).  Likewise, my stuff is still considered "new" by the guys who prefer the really classy gear (tube amps from the '60's, old-school mono rigs and full-range theater speakers...)

Still, happy to hear that enjoy your system, because that's all that really matters.

Hipster-like typing detected.


Thanks for not calling me an audiophile.

Mrs. Orange likes to joke that I live the life hipsters dream of.  I just don't do it ironically.  I can't afford new gear...  Would you like to hear about the local craft beer I had tonight at the local dive (recently written up in Bon Appetit)  while waiting for the hailstorm to subside so I could ride by three-speed home to my vintage 1950's house?  And I am waiting to hear from my local free-trade coffee shop about the barista position I recently applied for.

/it's all true
//don't really grow facial hair though, so I guess that's a blessing
 
2014-01-18 12:55:19 AM
 
2014-01-18 02:21:00 AM

LoneVVolf: gfid: A lot of people like to hate on Bose, but they never offer up a better alternative.

Klipsch. I've had the ProMedia 4.1 (old style) system for going on 15 years now. It's has survived several moves, a couple of them through abusive dorms/college apartments, lightning strikes, brownouts, freezes, condensing humidity, overheating and idiotic "look how loud a noise this can make" demonstrations. It has burned out exactly one resistor on the amp board, that a quick internet search revealed to be a common issue. $1.65 at Radio Shack (and a 15 minute conversation with the cell phone pushing tween behind the counter trying to describe what a resistor is and that i KNEW they sold them somewhere...) and 5 minutes with a soldering iron and the system has been running strong ever since. It can still hit that high clear sound of stressed glass cracking, and still rattle the window panes at 35hz-55hz without bumping or distorting.


A friend asked me to source some computer speakers, I offered and delivered them about 14 years ago. That speaker system is a golden egg, they handle anything thrown at them at any volume. Just incredible, and yes they're still going.
 
2014-01-18 04:03:10 AM

fickenchucker: 0/10--try harder next time.


Not trolling, and not an "audiophile".  Audio engineer.

Griftin Rubes summed it up pretty well above:  Bose products do not accurately reproduce the audio signal that is fed to them.

In addition, Bose has been known to sue over non-favorable reviews of their products.
 
2014-01-18 04:43:54 AM
This looks pretty sweet.
So, with a car industry thats been floundering for the better part of the last decade, I'm wondering why no ones beat a path to their door to get their hands on this stuff.
 
2014-01-18 09:49:05 AM
No highs, no lows, must be BOSE.
 
2014-01-18 05:13:36 PM
Bose is to sound what McDonalds is to hamburgers. And a Lexus is just an overpriced Toychoda.
 
2014-01-18 05:15:02 PM

Thunderboy: fickenchucker: 0/10--try harder next time.

Not trolling, and not an "audiophile".  Audio engineer.

Griftin Rubes summed it up pretty well above:  Bose products do not accurately reproduce the audio signal that is fed to them.

In addition, Bose has been known to sue over non-favorable reviews of their products.


The vast majority of the public can't tell the difference between unique and good. Just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good. Bose is a genius of marketing, not sound tech. I've never seen a professional studio use Bose equipment anywhere.
 
2014-01-18 06:07:56 PM

neilbradley: The vast majority of the public can't tell the difference between unique and good. Just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good.


Not sure where "unique" enters into it, but the general public does seem to enjoy screwed-up audio - the proliferation of "surround" headphones, not to mention actual surround systems (99% or more of which are not installed properly or in a properly prepared space) are ample evidence of that.

Bose is a genius of marketing, not sound tech. I've never seen a professional studio use Bose equipment anywhere.

Indeed.  They can sell anything, I wonder why they limit themselves to audio toys.
 
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