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2014-01-16 07:14:04 PM

Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban Smart phones. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000 deaths.  Nobody needs a Smart phone, and the fact that they are responsible for so many deaths is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to have one.

Personally, if Smartphones are the cause of 3,000 deaths I think we should allow more people to have them, and to make them cheaper.

Because those same 3,000 are too stupid to survive if a Smartphone can be the cause of their demise.


Yeah, people are pretty farking stupid if they let themselves get run over by a person that texts while driving.
 
2014-01-16 07:15:44 PM
Change the names and the first part of the story is about me. Except I didn't tell my mother to call tech support. I make won't work with her over the phone though, that's just torture.

My brother gave her his old ipad, the fat bastard.

I now keep all her account information in my password keeper. Along with my wife's. When I get bored with this life I might steal their identities and have then placed on an NSA watch list.
 
2014-01-16 07:15:58 PM

Franco: Teaching android to a boomer is like teaching potato enthusiasts not to lick windows. True story.


I'm a potato enthusiast, and I don't understand your SAT question

/my android phone is currently a bookmark in my trapper keeper
 
2014-01-16 07:16:07 PM

edmo: People seldom get phone training but those devices are certainly challenging enough to warrant it. Anything computer related in our society generally doesn't have any training emphasis and it shows. You're just supposed to know somehow.


A friend of a friend of mine was teaching a course at a small, for-profit place that decided all courses had to be offered online.

He was teaching intro to computers.

/went over about as well as you'd think
 
2014-01-16 07:16:10 PM

The Southern Dandy: Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban Smart phones. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000 deaths.  Nobody needs a Smart phone, and the fact that they are responsible for so many deaths is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to have one.

Personally, if Smartphones are the cause of 3,000 deaths I think we should allow more people to have them, and to make them cheaper.

Because those same 3,000 are too stupid to survive if a Smartphone can be the cause of their demise.

Yeah, people are pretty farking stupid if they let themselves get run over by a person that texts while driving.


Okay, fair point. I retract my statement.
 
2014-01-16 07:16:13 PM

DB: moike: If only smartphones shipped with manuals... Or there was some sort of search engine that you could punch a question about a feature on your phone into and see a ranked list of possible answers.

My droid didn't come with a comprehensive manual nor is there one online. I'm having no trouble using it but there are plenty of things that I have no idea they are for and I am sure I am vastly underutilizing its capability.


Weird...

Not only did my Droid Razr HD ship with a manual in the box, but it also came with an insert that had a URL to the manual online.

And there's a 'Help' app that has the same info as the printed manual in touchscreen format.

Did your carrier ship you a factory second, refurb, or something when you ordered the phone?
 
2014-01-16 07:16:52 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think smartphones are making people dumber. I know mine has. I don't have to remember as much.


Yeah, my parents bought me an entire encyclopedia set in 1976.  Every time I looked something up, I became dumber and dumber.
 
2014-01-16 07:18:00 PM
"I told her to call Apple support this time, because I was done with it"

If my kids, no matter how old they were, talked to me like that, I'd write them out of the will.
 
2014-01-16 07:18:57 PM

Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban Smart phones. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000 deaths.  Nobody needs a Smart phone, and the fact that they are responsible for so many deaths is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to have one.

Personally, if Smartphones are the cause of 3,000 deaths I think we should allow more people to have them, and to make them cheaper.

Because those same 3,000 are too stupid to survive if a Smartphone can be the cause of their demise.

Yeah, people are pretty farking stupid if they let themselves get run over by a person that texts while driving.

Okay, fair point. I retract my statement.


to be totally fair, many of the people being run over by texting drivers are probably also texting... or buying organic produce. at worst it's a push
 
2014-01-16 07:19:10 PM

fusillade762: Pocket Ninja: RexTalionis: I don't see the point in devoting brain power to memorizing things that I can easily look up.

Tell me about it. I mean, I still remember the street address and phone number of the house where I lived when I was eight years old. Eight! Good lord, if I could just free up the space that's taking up, I'd be a super genius by now. Maybe even in Mensa.

Remember when I took that home wine-making course and I forgot how to drive?


cdn.uproxx.com
 
2014-01-16 07:19:29 PM

megarian: WayneKerr: megarian: RexTalionis: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think smartphones are making people dumber. I know mine has. I don't have to remember as much.

I don't see the point in devoting brain power to memorizing things that I can easily look up.

This.

And I've learned some awesome things via smartphone. Being able to look up anything leads me to look up and read something else is pretty amazing. I end up reading about things what I had not thought about or didn't have reasonable access to. I love Wikipedia wormholes.

Wow! It's almost like the Internet.

Oh shut it. I don't carry my laptop everywhere.


I will shut it... shut it like a flip phone in the 2000's
 
2014-01-16 07:22:31 PM

vudukungfu: Mike_LowELL: Smartphones are not intended to educate, empower, or make one literate.  They exist to keep you busy, and to keep you away from things which actually make you smart.

Like a ratlle for an infant.


Like all consumer "technology"
 
2014-01-16 07:23:08 PM

Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban Smart phones. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000 deaths.  Nobody needs a Smart phone, and the fact that they are responsible for so many deaths is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to have one.

Personally, if Smartphones are the cause of 3,000 deaths I think we should allow more people to have them, and to make them cheaper.

Because those same 3,000 are too stupid to survive if a Smartphone can be the cause of their demise.

Yeah, people are pretty farking stupid if they let themselves get run over by a person that texts while driving.

Okay, fair point. I retract my statement.


But you agree, Smartphones, being so deadly, should be banned.  I mean, assault rifles were responsible for less than 50 deaths in 2011, but clearly nobody should have them.  Nobody needs an assault rifle...just like nobody needs a smartphone.  Those deadly items should just be banned. When somebody says they NEED a smartphone, their sanity should really be called into question.
 
2014-01-16 07:24:49 PM

Robin Hoodie: Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban Smart phones. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000 deaths.  Nobody needs a Smart phone, and the fact that they are responsible for so many deaths is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to have one.

Personally, if Smartphones are the cause of 3,000 deaths I think we should allow more people to have them, and to make them cheaper.

Because those same 3,000 are too stupid to survive if a Smartphone can be the cause of their demise.

Yeah, people are pretty farking stupid if they let themselves get run over by a person that texts while driving.

Okay, fair point. I retract my statement.

to be totally fair, many of the people being run over by texting drivers are probably also texting... or buying organic produce. at worst it's a push


Even more evidence supporting a Smartphone ban.
 
2014-01-16 07:26:04 PM
I liked it when smartphones were a little difficult to use. Kept the riff-raff out of my business.
 
2014-01-16 07:26:25 PM
HELLO!?

YES!

NAAH, IT WAS RUBBISH!

RIGHT!

CIAO!

mojix.org
 
2014-01-16 07:27:52 PM

WayneKerr: megarian: WayneKerr: megarian: RexTalionis: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think smartphones are making people dumber. I know mine has. I don't have to remember as much.

I don't see the point in devoting brain power to memorizing things that I can easily look up.

This.

And I've learned some awesome things via smartphone. Being able to look up anything leads me to look up and read something else is pretty amazing. I end up reading about things what I had not thought about or didn't have reasonable access to. I love Wikipedia wormholes.

Wow! It's almost like the Internet.

Oh shut it. I don't carry my laptop everywhere.

I will shut it... shut it like a flip phone in the 2000's


HEEEEY-OOOO!

(I'm not proud, but I laughed)
 
2014-01-16 07:28:41 PM

Robin Hoodie: Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: Weatherkiss: The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban Smart phones. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000 deaths.  Nobody needs a Smart phone, and the fact that they are responsible for so many deaths is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to have one.

Personally, if Smartphones are the cause of 3,000 deaths I think we should allow more people to have them, and to make them cheaper.

Because those same 3,000 are too stupid to survive if a Smartphone can be the cause of their demise.

Yeah, people are pretty farking stupid if they let themselves get run over by a person that texts while driving.

Okay, fair point. I retract my statement.

to be totally fair, many of the people being run over by texting drivers are probably also texting... or buying organic produce. at worst it's a push


So two wrongs don't make a right, but they might cancel each other out to the point that nothing happened. Which is almost as good!
 
2014-01-16 07:31:43 PM
I think in general people are intimidated by tech like smart phones is because they are afraid to make mistakes so don't try to learn anything but the basics. Anytime I get new tech toys? I mess with every little setting and item on the device. I accidentally send a text, delete email? Oh well, now I'll learn from my mistakes. In tech there's mostly nothing you can do wrong that cannot be corrected. Kids will dive right in and fark around with whatever. Older people cannot be afraid to learn the new things and possibly get things wrong.
 
DB
2014-01-16 07:32:25 PM

moike: DB: moike: If only smartphones shipped with manuals... Or there was some sort of search engine that you could punch a question about a feature on your phone into and see a ranked list of possible answers.

My droid didn't come with a comprehensive manual nor is there one online. I'm having no trouble using it but there are plenty of things that I have no idea they are for and I am sure I am vastly underutilizing its capability.

Weird...

Not only did my Droid Razr HD ship with a manual in the box, but it also came with an insert that had a URL to the manual online.

And there's a 'Help' app that has the same info as the printed manual in touchscreen format.

Did your carrier ship you a factory second, refurb, or something when you ordered the phone?


Nope. Brand new Droid mini. There was a very elementary manual that told you what buttons do what but every feature and tweak I've used came from just exploring on my own. A less tech savvy person would probably be very confused.
 
2014-01-16 07:34:00 PM
I dropped my Android in the toilet this afternoon.
I had to run to my laptop to "the Google" to see how to try and save my phone.
Farking on my Kindle while I wait for a bag of dry rice to save my phone.
Technology has made me extra stupider-ish. Kind of. I think.
 
2014-01-16 07:34:23 PM
I viewed that link on my phone. It made me stabby.
 
2014-01-16 07:35:15 PM
I do, like, 6 things with my phone.   I've never used an app to my knowledge nor do I know anything about tethering or whatever kinky stuff you nerds do.  Phone, camera, messaging, porn, porn, and more porn the way god intended.  My wife has 792 all synced-up Apple products and still can't keep things straight.

What the hell you kids get up to with your toys I will probably never understand.
 
2014-01-16 07:38:00 PM

Ant: "I couldn't get the camera flipped around so it would take a picture of an object and not myself," Jennifer said. There were a lot of pictures of Jennifer. "Finally a client said, 'Here, let me help you with that.'"

How the fark do people like this function? Are you so incurious that you can't try a few menu items? Do you know how to use Google? I honestly don't understand.


Like George Carlin said, Imagine how dumb the average person is, and then realize that half of us are dumber than that.

Now think about that dumb half.  Half of those people are stupider than even the average moron.  And of that group of sub-moron pudding wearers?  Half of those can't even manage to smear the pudding cups on their faces or peel the foil off by themselves.

And the bottom half of that subgroup of brain-stem level functioning potato lickers?  They can't manage to use a camera without taking pictures of themselves.  They can't research google, or form abstract thoughts or do anything other than respond to light stimuli like plants or protozoa.

And the bottom half of that group?  Buzzfeed editors.
 
2014-01-16 07:41:45 PM

Soup4Bonnie: I do, like, 6 things with my phone.   I've never used an app to my knowledge nor do I know anything about tethering or whatever kinky stuff you nerds do.  Phone, camera, messaging, porn, porn, and more porn the way god intended.  My wife has 792 all synced-up Apple products and still can't keep things straight.

What the hell you kids get up to with your toys I will probably never understand.


I thought that was what a tablet was for?

And, yes. I do have a tablet.
 
Ant
2014-01-16 07:41:54 PM

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 525x743]


The Blackberry user should be more like this now
www.vacationhomes.net
 
2014-01-16 07:43:37 PM
It's a combination of techno-phobia causing analysis paralysis, an aversion to reading, and pure laziness.

Why learn how to do something when you can just claim you're technologically illiterate and someone will do it for you?

If forced to do it yourself, why read what's actually on the screen?  If something is different than you remember, give up.  Reading is for other people.

And then there's the techno-phobic.  Where when faced with a piece of tech they lock up, unable to seemingly work out even the simplest of solutions without hand holding.  What if they do something wrong?  What if they make a mistake?  What if something they do changes the way things work and they can never get things back to the way they are right now?  Better to do nothing until someone is around who knows better.  Don't want to lose what little you've got.

What it boils down to is that for a whole lot of people tech is basically magic.  And if you cast the wrong spell you might anger the mighty tech deities and lose it all.

Wait for a tech priest to come by.  They will have the answers you seek.

And that's a mindset problem and nothing more.
 
2014-01-16 07:46:41 PM

toraque: Ant: "I couldn't get the camera flipped around so it would take a picture of an object and not myself," Jennifer said. There were a lot of pictures of Jennifer. "Finally a client said, 'Here, let me help you with that.'"

How the fark do people like this function? Are you so incurious that you can't try a few menu items? Do you know how to use Google? I honestly don't understand.

Like George Carlin said, Imagine how dumb the average person is, and then realize that half of us are dumber than that.

Now think about that dumb half.  Half of those people are stupider than even the average moron.  And of that group of sub-moron pudding wearers?  Half of those can't even manage to smear the pudding cups on their faces or peel the foil off by themselves.

And the bottom half of that subgroup of brain-stem level functioning potato lickers?  They can't manage to use a camera without taking pictures of themselves.  They can't research google, or form abstract thoughts or do anything other than respond to light stimuli like plants or protozoa.

And the bottom half of that group?   Buzzfeed editors. Apple customers


FTFY
 
2014-01-16 07:52:31 PM
Gawd, this gave me a flashback to Windows 3.1. A visiting friend used my puter (and Windows Write, because Office wasn't around yet) to write a letter and print it out for mailing. She was used to using a proprietary system at her workplace that automatically saved things as you wrote them.

Because she didn't want her confidential letter to remain on my machine (it had NOT been saved because that's not how Write worked), she simply deleted the entire word processing program, thinking that the program she used to write the letter WAS the letter.

I had to reinstall the entire Win 3.1 OS just to get Write back.

/She has finally accepted, and will readily confess these 20 years later, that she is "not a techie."
 
2014-01-16 07:54:50 PM
I think Samsung has some simple mode implemented in all new phones that gives you the basic functions of the phone and some apps (Calendar, Calculator, Temp, etc.). Everything is clearly labeled but goddamn it looks like a jitterbug smartphone.
 
2014-01-16 07:58:23 PM

The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban trolls. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000,000 shiatposts.  Nobody needs a troll, and the fact that they are responsible for so many shiatposts is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to be one.


Word.
 
2014-01-16 07:58:34 PM

ladyfortuna: fatassbastard: If Frank Washington has told his mother once, he has told her a thousand times: Do not change the account passwords on your iPhone.

His mother called the other day. She had a password problem.

"I told her to call Apple support this time, because I was done with it," Washington said.

What a dick.

Agreed. I wish my mom would call me for tech support, but considering she's dead, that might be awkward...


1.bp.blogspot.com

It works better than you might think...
 
2014-01-16 08:00:22 PM
Mine is a touchscreen gaming handheld/audio player with phone functions bolted on. Or rather, mine are. I have a decade's worth of older smartphones that I still keep around loaded with games and demos and emulators and all sorts of amusements. They're ace.

And I still love my wee N-Gage QD. That's the one that fixed the sidetalking and the need to remove the battery to change the game. Gets weeks of life off a single charge and has actual hardware game controls.
 
2014-01-16 08:01:14 PM

big pig peaches: Change the names and the first part of the story is about me. Except I didn't tell my mother to call tech support. I make won't work with her over the phone though, that's just torture.

My brother gave her his old ipad, the fat bastard.

I now keep all her account information in my password keeper. Along with my wife's. When I get bored with this life I might steal their identities and have then placed on an NSA watch list.


Yeah, I simply cannot talk to my mother about fixing anything on a computer over the phone. Even when I have the exact screen up she's looking at it's painful to try to walk her through stuff. Finally she's given me her passwords to just have me fix whatever is wrong, and I've thought about setting up a remote access to fix things directly. I've pretty much said to call tech support, politely.
 
2014-01-16 08:04:14 PM

A Gentile in Boca: I dropped my Android in the toilet this afternoon.
I had to run to my laptop to "the Google" to see how to try and save my phone.
Farking on my Kindle while I wait for a bag of dry rice to save my phone.
Technology has made me extra stupider-ish. Kind of. I think.


imageshack.com
 
2014-01-16 08:09:04 PM

umad: toraque: Ant: "I couldn't get the camera flipped around so it would take a picture of an object and not myself," Jennifer said. There were a lot of pictures of Jennifer. "Finally a client said, 'Here, let me help you with that.'"

How the fark do people like this function? Are you so incurious that you can't try a few menu items? Do you know how to use Google? I honestly don't understand.

Like George Carlin said, Imagine how dumb the average person is, and then realize that half of us are dumber than that.

Now think about that dumb half.  Half of those people are stupider than even the average moron.  And of that group of sub-moron pudding wearers?  Half of those can't even manage to smear the pudding cups on their faces or peel the foil off by themselves.

And the bottom half of that subgroup of brain-stem level functioning potato lickers?  They can't manage to use a camera without taking pictures of themselves.  They can't research google, or form abstract thoughts or do anything other than respond to light stimuli like plants or protozoa.

And the bottom half of that group?   Buzzfeed editors. Apple customers

iHater douchebags

FTFY
 
2014-01-16 08:11:50 PM

fatassbastard: If Frank Washington has told his mother once, he has told her a thousand times: Do not change the account passwords on your iPhone.

His mother called the other day. She had a password problem.

"I told her to call Apple support this time, because I was done with it," Washington said.

What a dick.


It is pretty standard. He voluntarily gets involved in something, loses interest, then figures it is someone else's problem. He'd be the first to scream if Apple stopped support for any reason.
 
2014-01-16 08:16:15 PM

BigOle8point: porn, porn, and more porn the way god intended. My wife has 792 all synced-up Apple products and still can't keep things straight.

What the hell you kids get up to with your toys I will probably never understand.

I thought that was what a tablet was for?

And, yes. I do have a tablet.


Sometimes I'll use my Surface to Fark & browse the web, but mainly it's for Netflix, Youtube-ing, and porn. The one or two times I dared queue up a porn on my phone, with the smaller screen I would accidentally click the tweet button and come *this* close to sending the link to "bareback babysitter boogaloo" or whatever out to the world.
 
2014-01-16 08:17:00 PM

jso2897: The Southern Dandy: We really need to ban trolls. In 2011, they were responsible for more than 3,000,000 shiatposts.  Nobody needs a troll, and the fact that they are responsible for so many shiatposts is clear proof that nobody should be allowed to be one.

Word.


I prefer "muckraker" or "shiat stirrer".  Troll is so ...how do you say?...millennial.
 
2014-01-16 08:17:09 PM

Pocket Ninja: fusillade762: Remember when I took that home wine-making course and I forgot how to drive?

It's gotten to the point where every time I watch a new TV show, I have to forget one of the old ones I remembered. I watched that new HBO show last Sunday and accidentally overwrote my memory of that GoT episode where Rob got married. Can't wait to watch that one again, but I'm not sure what to put *it* over now.


Married With Children, when Al takes Kelly to the gameshow.
 
2014-01-16 08:28:31 PM
www.pcreview.co.uk
 
2014-01-16 08:30:20 PM
skinink:  In tech there's mostly nothing you can do wrong that cannot be corrected.

Remember that screencap from Facebook where some lady publicly talks about how much she enjoyed sexy-time (with graphic detail) on her date with a guy?

Yeah, that's gonna be hard to correct. Not to mention the dozens of other social media meltdowns that have made the news over the years.
 
2014-01-16 08:32:58 PM

Fano: [www.pcreview.co.uk image 732x823]


30 minutes? Try them all?

Step one: Google
Step two: Try it
Step three: Repeat
If it doesn't work in ten minutes, give up and consider flashing the drive.
 
2014-01-16 08:40:10 PM

doglover: RexTalionis: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think smartphones are making people dumber. I know mine has. I don't have to remember as much.

I don't see the point in devoting brain power to memorizing things that I can easily look up.

Because once you've got it down by rote, you can do it automatically. Frees up your brain to multitask while doing other things.

That's why people like Jackie Can are so good at martial arts stunts. While you'd have to think about what move to make, his body would already be doing it before your neurons had even fired. That's why Marines still drill incessantly in hand to hand fighting, even though there hasn't been hand to hand fighting with enemy troops since the banana clip's invention.

That said, your childhood home's address is kinda useless if you sold the property already.


But nothing Marines do is useless even if they will never do it in battle again.
 
2014-01-16 08:47:00 PM
I remember when we got together for Christmas in '11 or '10 and my aunt had gotten an iphone since her daughters had too.  I knew she was a complete luddite and it would be an expensive piece of jewelry to her.  I was right.  She got rid of it as soon as she could because she was paying way too much for features she stopped using after a week or so.

I mainly use my smartphone for email and light browsing, but at least I know how to use all the features of my phone when I'm inclined.
 
Ant
2014-01-16 08:56:46 PM

moike: Or there was some sort of search engine that you could punch a question about a feature on your phone into and see a ranked list of possible answers.


I tried punching a question into my computer, and now my monitor is cracked. You owe me a new monitor!
 
2014-01-16 09:01:24 PM
i60.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-16 09:03:38 PM
why won't it let me re-size pictures anymore...

throw me into the same category as a smartphone user.
 
2014-01-16 09:16:16 PM
Yeah, smartphones are so cool - there's nothing like lugging around an electric brick everywhere you go.

Get with the program, luddites - direct chip implant is the only way to fly.
 
2014-01-16 09:25:35 PM

sobriquet by any other name: moike: sobriquet by any other name: 
Really, i'm okay with all that stuff, but is it beyond android to have a dummy fast-access mode?

Something like this?

[lounge.obviousmag.org image 454x234]

actually i was thinking of a full-screen contacts-phone-text only interface that it boots into, and is difficult to leave accidentally, for older users, but SnarkUI... that has potential!


If it boots into a phone-text-contact UI that the user never leaves, why not just get the free flip phone and a $15 phone plan?

I know, I know keeping up with the jonses, conspicuous consumerism, irrationality, etc. . .
 
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