imfallen_angel: TheWhoppah: No nation is civilized if they DON'T execute a man for raping and killing a woman who is eight months pregnant. If you can't execute scumbag subhumans like that then your society is not civilized.You don't value the life of your own citizens.What if he was sent through time because the unborn child was to be the next Hitler?
skozlaw: lennavan: It does when you're guilty of raping and murdering a pregnant girl and the family of the victim supports it.No, it doesn't, and your idea of how a justice system ought to function is insanely terrifying. Thank god nobody ever asked you how things should work and let's hope nobody ever does.
FlashHarry: so, both cruel AND unusual.farking barbaric.
orclover: Quick, Painless, Flawless. Why fark around? If drug companies dont want to be associated with executions then we have plenty of alternatives. Make sure to publisize it and hold up a sign that says "This needlessly brutal execution brought to you by big pharma, be sure to thank them!"Also bring back Burning at the stake for kiddy diddlers, we could run round the clock footage of all the states executions on its own cable channel with comercials to make up the cost.Would be the most viewed channel in farking history, and you farking know it.
Oldiron_79: Piece of rope works well and cheaper too.
dittybopper: So why don't we just overdose them with morphine? We know it works, and we know it's painless, and it's less messy than my idea of using explosive lenses to implode the heads of criminals like the pit of an atomic bomb, which, btw, is quite humane, because the explosive shockwave is faster than nerve conduction speed, so it's like instantly turning off a light. They'd never even know when the end happens, because they'd be dead before the sensations could reach their brains.
PsiChick: Fano: PsiChick: TheWhoppah: You equate the infliction of pain with uncivilized behavior. You mention vengeance as if it were a dirty word. Yet you've offered nothing in support of either proposition. Vengeance is the root of all justice. Citizens cede their natural right to seek justice to the government in return for orderly professional-grade high quality vengeance. This is a fundamental element of the social contract between man and government....That's a really interesting take on it, but most of us cede our right to vengeance to the government because we recognize we might one day be on the wrong end of the stick, and would prefer the law to treat us fairly, so we acknowledge other people have to be treated fairly too. That's called 'justice'. I mean, you might be doing that, but I don't think the rest of us are...What about Batman? He is Vengeance. He is THE NIGHT./Snark on:Gotham City is not a how-to manual/snark
DarkVader: You know what they do in Russia?
Dr Jack Badofsky: TheShavingofOccam123: QFTA:A federal judge sided with the state but acknowledged the new method was an experiment.Please have this judge removed from the bench. This is an idiot. A cruel, nasty idiot.I dunno. Depends on who they were experimenting on. Was it a worst-of-the-worst pedophile? Par for the course. Went on a serial-killing spree? Welcome to the "Serial Killer Victim Experience". Kidnapped / tortured / raped people? My sympathy meter just broke Trying to register lower than it was able to. Not feeling very sorry at all for people on death row, especially when the evidence is overwhelmingly proof that they indeed were heinous individuals. Ted Bundy, for example. Don't let his looks and charisma fool you. That's an unrepentant, cold, sadistic, devious person. Not fixable, and not worth the oxygen he breathed.
Millennium: jshine: Kit Fister: Beyond that, I see death as simply a form of cold storage. I don't promote death as a means of revenge, but simply as a means of permanently removing the person from the gene pool and freeing up a cell, guards, and resources for others."Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."-- J.R.R. TolkienSaid by a character who killed many people, to another whose hands did not end up clean, and acknowledging in the quote itself that sometimes it is right. The point of your quote is not that no one should ever be killed, only that it is a grave responsibility, to be exercised with the utmost care.
jshine: Kit Fister: Beyond that, I see death as simply a form of cold storage. I don't promote death as a means of revenge, but simply as a means of permanently removing the person from the gene pool and freeing up a cell, guards, and resources for others."Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement."-- J.R.R. Tolkien
McFifenstein: He was from Ohio, he probably wanted to die anyways.I know I would if I lived in Ohio.
EyeballKid: theflatline: I give you Pedro Lopez, who raped and killed over 300 young girls in Latin America in countries who do not have death penalties.He only did 18 years in prison, and then was declared sane and released. Is that the act of civilized society?Anecdotal evidence?!ONE anecdote?!SHUT.DOWN.EVERYTHING.
special20: Maybe I was wrong... our capital punishment technology can borrow from the past and do pretty well. Plus it helps out a whole bunch of starving circus elephants who I care for more than I do a rapist/murderer.[upload.wikimedia.org image 414x600]
Marcus Aurelius: dittybopper: So we can go with my other idea, then.You have to admit that it might be considered "unusual".
EyeballKid: Running a-puck: I'm honestly a bit baffled by people who think torture is ok as long as you're just torturing bad guys. Torture is not ok. Ever. No matter what. It's TORTURE.Kill them quickly and painlessly and move on.I'm honestly baffled by people who think murder is OK as long as you're just murdering bad guys.
Kit Fister: EyeballKid: Between this and the thread about Mrs. Tannenhill's gun, there are a lot of all-hat-no-cattle-cowboys on Fark.500 head of dairy cows on a farm in Wisconsin. You were saying?
Lando Lincoln: This isn't about him, or his case. It's about a system.
r1niceboy: WTFDYW: I'm ok with this jpg.But are you absolutely confident that every single person in the US on death row is there legitimately? Would you be okay with doing this to someone because the cops wanted to get back to their donuts, and the DA was making a run for congress?
super_grass: Just use a firing squad if you want someone dead.- no complex medical procedure- hard to screw up- bullets are pretty damn cheap- quick death for the convict- organs that aren't shot can be put to good use
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