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(Orlando Sentinel)   Florida wants to raise the speeds from 70 to 75 mph on 4 lanes which is what most people drive anyway   (orlandosentinel.com ) divider line
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2014-01-16 12:07:48 PM  
4 votes:
75? try 80-85 in the fast lane. What they need to do is keep the assholes doing under 70 to the right side and enforce it. I was driving down I-4 to tampa yesterday and bottle neck traffic because these assholes keep doing 65/70 in the left lane. They can do 70 in the middle and 65 in the right, this keeps the traffic flowing, but there's always some jackass doing 70 in the left causing bottle neck traffic and all it takes is one accident to shut down a road for an hour.

/frankly even if they raised it to 80people will still be doing 70 in the left lane, damn tourist/soccer moms/assholes
2014-01-16 12:47:55 PM  
2 votes:
Although my own driving experiences in Florida are limited to South Florida (mostly Miami-Ft. Lauderdale and nearby areas), in my experience it isn't true that 75 is what "most people drive anyway."  In my experience, a substantial percentage of drivers in that area fall into one of two categories: (1) geriatrics driving 50 mph in the left lane with their blinker on for 10 miles, and (2) wannabe gang-bangers passing you on the right shoulder at 100 mph in their blinged-out Escalade (a huge 4WD truckcar on 24" dubs of course being a very sensible vehicle for South Florida's harsh, frozen winter hellscape of climate).

I would nominate the Miami area as the place with the worst drivers in the U.S.
2014-01-16 05:04:56 PM  
1 vote:

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Not too familiar with I-75? I can ride the left lane all day long at 75 and be passing someone. The statute that you cite even prohibits staying in the second left lane of a 4 lane highway.


I'm quite familiar with I-75 all the way from Atlanta to Tampa, thanks, and interestingly most of the asshats I encountered obstructing traffic in the left lane had Hillsborough County plates.

Also, the ticket resulting from a violation of 316.081 is $30. Speeding at 80-85 on a road limited at 70 results in a fine of $100. It may be "as much of a violation as speeding," but speeding carries a fine 3x more. I'll take the cruising in left lane ticket over a speeding ticket anytime.

So it's okay to break the law and tie up traffic because "it's not as bad as speeding"? How about just yielding the left lane to faster traffic like you're supposed to instead?
2014-01-16 03:47:30 PM  
1 vote:

hobnail: Odd Bird: What the hell were they thinking when those were put on cars?

Safety, of course.  My current car has them.  At least once it gets dark you have to turn the headlights on to engage the backlighting on the dash.

My wife's car doesn't have them but the dash lights are always on.   So if you're in a well-lit area, it's not hard to forget to turn the lights on.


Which makes them unsafe.
Cars with only their headlights or parking lights turned on is much too common.
Engage front and back or none.
2014-01-16 03:40:24 PM  
1 vote:

ArcadianRefugee: Some jackass is doing the speed limit? How dare he!


The implication in such a complaint is usually that said jackass has planted himself in the passing lane without actually passing anybody - which is illegal in many places, mind you - but is "justifying" his stupidity by saying he's doing the speed limit. Those people should fark off and die immediately.

That said, people who insist on stubbornly sticking to the speed limit when everybody else is driving much faster aren't a whole lot better. Divergence from the average speed, particularly those driving slower than the average, greatly increases the probability of being involved in a crash:

streetsblog.net

It's called a Solomon Curve and it's been studied again and again and upheld as a valid model again and again.

In situations where everybody else is speeding, you can either drive safely or you can drive legally. If you crash while stubbornly sticking to the limit "because that's the law", hopefully the sense of smug superiority you wrapped yourself in will help you avoid injury.
2014-01-16 03:32:12 PM  
1 vote:

Odd Bird: What the hell were they thinking when those were put on cars?


Safety, of course.  My current car has them.  At least once it gets dark you have to turn the headlights on to engage the backlighting on the dash.

My wife's car doesn't have them but the dash lights are always on.  So if you're in a well-lit area, it's not hard to forget to turn the lights on.
2014-01-16 03:03:16 PM  
1 vote:

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Absolutey horrendous. And everyone wonders why the 275 is always congested. It's because of people changing lanes every .2 miles feet because that lane is moving 2 1 MPH faster.


There. That's more like it.  ;-)
2014-01-16 02:45:38 PM  
1 vote:

almandot: That's great but first get rid of the whole changeable speed limit signs in downtown. The freeways/toll roads leading to downtown drop to 55 and now one goes it but then in downtown they have digital speed limit signs that drop to 50, 45, 40 etc depending on how much traffic there is. I have never seen anyone go as slow as those signs say. Even folks who always stick to the speed limit. If there's enough traffic you can't go anywhere it slows to a crawl but if there's room to go faster than 40 people are doing it whether the sign says to or not.


The goal is to prevent the ripple effects of hard braking which causes tons of traffic jams but of course people are dumbasses.
2014-01-16 02:28:14 PM  
1 vote:

hobnail: Sean M: bingethinker: Some states used to have minimum speeds posted on their freeways. ... l. But if they pushed it up to 55 minimum and actively ticketed senile idiots doing under that limit, it might get them to speed up.

In the past few months I remember coming across a geriatric who was doing ~45mph in the centre lane.  That'll wake you up when you're cruising along at ~75mph.

Or, going 60 in the center lane in a 75 mph zone. At night.  With on DRLs (so no tail lights).

/I threw my underwear away at the next stop.


Try focusing further up the road instead of ten feet in front of your hood and shiat doesn't sneak up on you like that.
2014-01-16 02:14:41 PM  
1 vote:

Sean M: bingethinker: Some states used to have minimum speeds posted on their freeways. ... l. But if they pushed it up to 55 minimum and actively ticketed senile idiots doing under that limit, it might get them to speed up.

In the past few months I remember coming across a geriatric who was doing ~45mph in the centre lane.  That'll wake you up when you're cruising along at ~75mph.


Or, going 60 in the center lane in a 75 mph zone. At night.  With on DRLs (so no tail lights).

/I threw my underwear away at the next stop.
2014-01-16 02:01:13 PM  
1 vote:

BravadoGT: bluorangefyre: I-75 should be fun, especially at the Georgia line.  Now the far left lane will be plaid.

GSP will be there to line Georgia's pockets with speeder money, that's for sure.


GA now has a super-speeder law that kicks in for anyone traveling faster than 80 mph. If you get stopped going 80 or over, you get a fine. But some weeks later you will get a bill from the DPS for an additional $250. However, I routinely go 75 mph on the freeways and people blow past me all the time. So it obviously isn't stringently enforced.

The GSP is not the problem. They give most motorists warnings. It is the county mounties you have to be careful of.
2014-01-16 01:38:45 PM  
1 vote:
its florida.  half the cars are going 85, the other half are going 40 with the blinker on.
2014-01-16 12:22:44 PM  
1 vote:

Misconduc: 75? try 80-85 in the fast lane. What they need to do is keep the assholes doing under 70 to the right side and enforce it. I was driving down I-4 to tampa yesterday and bottle neck traffic because these assholes keep doing 65/70 in the left lane. They can do 70 in the middle and 65 in the right, this keeps the traffic flowing, but there's always some jackass doing 70 in the left causing bottle neck traffic and all it takes is one accident to shut down a road for an hour.

/frankly even if they raised it to 80people will still be doing 70 in the left lane, damn tourist/soccer moms/assholes


Chickenshiat drivers crowd the left lane because they're chickenshiat drivers. Every other lane requires you to be aware of all surroundings (front, back, left, and right), while the left lane allows people to only focus on 3 sides (front, back, and right). They like that lane because it's one less thing they have to worry about.
 
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