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2014-01-16 05:40:30 PM

Kahabut: Preppers.  LOL.

I know a place, multiple generators, 400 million gallons of fuel, already a hardened facility including IR cameras and a command center with remote control of just about everything.

It's 20 miles from the nearest town on a dirt road, and nearest town is 2000 people.

It would be trivial to put up gunnery positions and dig in traps and obstructions.

There is already a large stockpile of food, water and water filtering facilities attached to the groundwater well.

It also has a fleet of heavy equipment, backhoes, shovel loaders and various trucks that all run on CNG.  The aforementioned fuel stockpile.

As well, it has a brush plane and landing strip.

/nope, not saying where.
//it's good to know people.
///not a military or government facility.


I hear Corwin Springs is lovely this time of year....
 
2014-01-16 06:06:07 PM

Witty_Retort: i.r.id10t: Stone Meadow: Was a bit amazed to see SF is not in the path of the several previous Yellowstone mega-eruptions...

~[www.earthmountainview.com image 580x377]

But you know it would screw up all the fault lines and the resulting quakes would totally mess up california

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"Otisburg"?
 
2014-01-16 06:20:15 PM

MFAWG: PunGent:  MFAWG: Farker Soze: mdeesnuts: This guy is an uber-tard, but I'm not sure 'convicted of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes' should rate 86ing his right to bear arms. Sure, it could've been a chatroom scenario like, "Oh ur 16 so wanna do anal", but my point stands that the list of what gets you on the sex offender registry needs some serious trimming.

/could just as likely be he sexted the 300lb Pizza Hut waitress without knowing she was 17

googled another article:

he's a level one sex offender who was convicted in 2009 of communicating with a minor for immoral purposes, when he inappropriately touched a drunken 14-year-old girl in an Auburn parking lot. He was also convicted of stealing a motorcycle in 2009. - See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/doomsday-prepper-and-convicted-felon-t y ler-smith-jailed-for-illegal-firearms_012014#sthash.PCaQl08J.dpuf

So common clay of the New West?

Reminds me of the guys who were pulling logs out of navigable waterways without getting permits on that logging.show.

Ok.  Dumb question, probably...but wouldn't they WANT you to pull logs out of a navigable waterway?


So it'd be more...I dunno...navigable?

Removing snags that have been there for decades can change the water flow and bottom structure for a considerable distance. You're supposed to get a permit so the state can go in and update charts.

Or the Man is keeping Real ' Merkans down.


Oh, yeah...that makes sense.  Loose logs are OK, I'd imagine?
 
2014-01-16 06:56:18 PM

Nadie_AZ: That show .. I just .. I mean these people are out there. The best doomsday preppers? Mormons. There, I said it.


I think one of the qualifications for being a competent prepper is not blabbing.  Thus anyone on the show is automatically not competent.
 
2014-01-16 07:02:52 PM

gfid: I have 4 cans of soup, 2 cans of tuna, 2 quarts of water and a half a case of beer.  Am I a prepper?


Better than nothing. Get more beer though. I keep some stuff, but no bunker scene here. Did know someone who lived in a house built during the crazier days of the Cold War that had a bomb shelter. Cool little place, great ventilation system. Yes, we partied in it. There wasn't anything in it when they bought the house, so they just used it for storage. And other things.
 
2014-01-16 07:23:00 PM

Prophet of Loss: I don't get preppers. Unless you have the numbers, whatever you stockpile will go to some group that does.

A family of five ain't gonna have a chance in hell against am armed gang of thirty people.


Depends if they have claymores in the front yard or not.
 
2014-01-16 07:45:28 PM
Here's what I picture for most of these prepper guys.

Day 1: I have secured my bunker. I have enough food, water, and weapons to last 30 years.

Day 30: It sounds like the war is over, but the radio stopped broadcasting days ago. I'm not budging.

Day 104: I AM SO SICK OF WATCHING THE SAME VIDEOS OVER AND OVER.

Day 320: Having ramen noodles again. I think I hurt my tooth on a stone that was in last night's can of baked beans.

Day 330: Ten days now with this toothache. It's getting hard to concentrate on anything.

Day 350: I decided to use my pliers to pull the tooth. It was bleeding a lot, but I think I got it under control.

Day 358: Fever. Head hurts. Mouth is swollen. Infection? Need to check books. Antibiotics not working.

Day 362: i wir gggg  fggn die

Day 363:  [No entries from this point onward]
 
2014-01-16 07:56:53 PM

Sapper_Topo: I am a prepper and I freely admit it. Not to the extent of most of the people on this show who spend 10s of thousands of dollars. But yeah if Yellowstone blows its top in my lifetime I want to be able to get somewhere safe and survive for as long as I can.


Namibia?  Yellowstone's a big 'un.
 
2014-01-16 07:57:22 PM

serial_crusher: So have you stocked up enough guns to fight off all the other people who know about it and live a few miles closer than you?


I'll spare you the inventory.  YES.

You'd be shocked.

 

firemanbuck: I hear Corwin Springs is lovely this time of year....


Wrong state, might be a similar place though.  There are more than a few of them like this one spread around the country.
 
2014-01-16 08:21:33 PM
You know, people will riot about a hockey game.  If this thin veneer of civilization we all wear gets chucked over a farking hockey game, I shudder at the thought of what will happen during a disaster so severe that the civil authorities are rendered ineffective for months or even years.

Actually, it would be like Katrina, but with more shooting and looting until you run out of stuff to loot or shoot with.
 
2014-01-16 09:01:27 PM

Sapper_Topo: I am a prepper and I freely admit it. Not to the extent of most of the people on this show who spend 10s of thousands of dollars. But yeah if Yellowstone blows its top in my lifetime I want to be able to get somewhere safe and survive for as long as I can.


There aren't many places you could go or get to in the case the Yellowstone blew. It's considered an extinction level event if it were to happen. (at least according to the Earth Science classes and Geology classes in HS and college, and the Discovery Channel special about it)
 
2014-01-16 09:15:40 PM

MeatGazer: I'd LIKE to have the money for a bunker...  Because - hey!  Cool!  Bunker!

But the above poster is right.  If things are bad enough to warrant a bunker - things are quite bad indeed.  And being in a bunker may not make the best sense.  However, for us, having a bunker would serve as a storm shelter as we don't have a basement.  And the crawlspace just won't cut it (though it could...)

And we sure do need to keep a larger store of "extras" at the house.  We weren't home for the blizzard that hit after the new year - thankfully - but we'd have been hard up for water.  Granted, we'd keep the bathtub full - but the drain stop doesn't hold 100%.  We do have a natural gas fireplace insert that'll throw some heat and we could use the grill grates to fashion a cooking surface.  We could manage with the food we have on hand - but barely.

No money right now for a generator...   Would love to have even a small one to keep the fridge and the chest freezer running at least.  Having the money, though, a nice 22Kw tri-fuel generator would be pretty nice.  However - our power rarely goes out during even the worst of storms (including blizzard...) that one that big would be quite the luxury item.

Long and short - need to lay in some water storage and a bit more easily prepared foodstuffs.


MeatGazer, I'm not a prepper but I know a few and I don't think you would have to spend a lot of money for the things you said you would like to have.

No money for a generator? Do you have a car? It can drive 80 miles per hour up hill, it's a very powerful and efficient generator. For $16 - $50 bucks on ebay you can get a power inverter. Put that together with an extension cord and a power strip and you can run whatever you need. Your car can idle for days. Get a steering wheel lock if you're worried someone will steal your car in your driveway. Done.

Regarding bunkers, yeah they are expensive, unless you follow an army guide and make one under and old car or something weird like that. But you know, you could just get a tent or better yet just throw a $30 car cover in the back of your car. Now your car can be a shelter if your house isn't there. Ok that won't protect you  from a tornado if you're in your house, but it's something.

Regarding water storage, a bottle of bleach costs about $1.50, you could start with that. Bleach or water filters and or iodine water tablets are all more portable and easier then storing a lot of water in bulk. You can boil pond water if you have fire. And if you add a cap full of bleach to a bucket of water with a lid, it will stay just fine in your garage for six months. Get some bleach and a bucket. Done.

Regarding foodstuffs, that's where it gets expensive. But depending on what you buy, $200.00 food stuffs can be about 1 months food 4000 calories a day for two people. Peanut butter lasts forever and stores anywhere. Maybe be more creative then that. Sometimes Costco has incredible sales. Anyway food isn't that big of a challenge if you really want to have a little extra around.

So prep for "a basic prolonged power outage", "your house is blown away by a tornado", or" choking volcano dust blankets the country", or all three:
- Bleach $1.50
- Power inverter $40.00
- Car cover to turn your car into a shelter $30.00
- Steering Wheel lock $20.00
- Pack of dust masks for "volcano dust" or painting. $2.00
- Bucket or two for water and pond water+bleach if you run out. $4.00
- $200.00 food stuffs, 1 months food 4000 calories a day for two people.
Total:$297.50

There we have it, shelter, food, heat, power and light though some pretty bad prolonged outages, short of a massive flood. Sure you might need to buy an extension cord or some candles if you feel you need that. But my point is, these things aren't expensive and if you want these things you can have them. It's possible for your life to be robust without weird stuff like bunkers and gas masks.
 
2014-01-16 09:36:44 PM
Watched couple episodes. Most those "survivalist" looked like they'd have a heart attack reaching for a cup cake.
 
2014-01-16 09:37:49 PM

steam_cannon: MeatGazer: I'd LIKE to have the money for a bunker...  Because - hey!  Cool!  Bunker!

But the above poster is right.  If things are bad enough to warrant a bunker - things are quite bad indeed.  And being in a bunker may not make the best sense.  However, for us, having a bunker would serve as a storm shelter as we don't have a basement.  And the crawlspace just won't cut it (though it could...)

And we sure do need to keep a larger store of "extras" at the house.  We weren't home for the blizzard that hit after the new year - thankfully - but we'd have been hard up for water.  Granted, we'd keep the bathtub full - but the drain stop doesn't hold 100%.  We do have a natural gas fireplace insert that'll throw some heat and we could use the grill grates to fashion a cooking surface.  We could manage with the food we have on hand - but barely.

No money right now for a generator...   Would love to have even a small one to keep the fridge and the chest freezer running at least.  Having the money, though, a nice 22Kw tri-fuel generator would be pretty nice.  However - our power rarely goes out during even the worst of storms (including blizzard...) that one that big would be quite the luxury item.

Long and short - need to lay in some water storage and a bit more easily prepared foodstuffs.

MeatGazer, I'm not a prepper but I know a few and I don't think you would have to spend a lot of money for the things you said you would like to have.

No money for a generator? Do you have a car? It can drive 80 miles per hour up hill, it's a very powerful and efficient generator. For $16 - $50 bucks on ebay you can get a power inverter. Put that together with an extension cord and a power strip and you can run whatever you need. Your car can idle for days. Get a steering wheel lock if you're worried someone will steal your car in your driveway. Done.

Regarding bunkers, yeah they are expensive, unless you follow an army guide and make one under and old car or something weird like ...

SNIP

So prep for "a basic prolonged power outage", "your house is blown away by a tornado", or" choking volcano dust blankets the country", or all three:
- Bleach $1.50
- Power inverter $40.00
- Car cover to turn your car into a shelter $30.00
- Steering Wheel lock $20.00
- Pack of dust masks for "volcano dust" or painting. $2.00
- Bucket or two for water and pond water+bleach if you run out. $4.00
- $200.00 food stuffs, 1 months food 4000 calories a day for two people.
Total:$297.50



Or I could stay at a motel for $30 a night, or maybe drive across state and stay with relatives for a month if need be.
 
2014-01-16 10:10:03 PM

FrancoFile: ladodger34: FrancoFile: ladodger34: Farker Soze: Carn: Farker Soze: Carn: Aidan: HotWingConspiracy: Sapper_Topo: I am a prepper and I freely admit it. Not to the extent of most of the people on this show who spend 10s of thousands of dollars. But yeah if Yellowstone blows its top in my lifetime I want to be able to get somewhere safe and survive for as long as I can.

I want to die as quickly as possible if that event occurs.

Hey, that's my plan too! Death Buddies! :P

My plan is to have enough beer on hand to keep me drunk for a good long time or at least up until the point where looters come and kill me for my beer.  I'm good for 6 months easy.

I know a guy who met a guy the other day that had a few pallets of beer in his barn.  I guess he gets it cheap, then him and his hands finish it off over the summer.

I'm ok with this.  I'm not there yet, but I did buy 6 cases of Yuengling the other day because it was $14 a case.  I already have many gallons of homebrew so if civilization goes to shiat I'm going out shiatfaced.

I've got to start my homebrewing again and fill my keg up.  Been at least a year.  I see they have wide mouth, screw on lid 6 gallon glass carboys now, I need a few of those.

I'm not an experienced homebrewer (started last year) but the horror stories I've read about glass carboys keep me solidly in the bucket and or plastic carboy camp.

??
My buddy uses glass carboys, and I've been helping him brew for 3 years.  Never any problems.

A few guys on homebrewtalk have dropped glass carboys and have had some pretty serious injuries (torn up tendons/ligaments, lots of stitches, etc.)

I'm a clumsy guy as it is.

Don't drink when you brew.  Put down a rubber mat in the garage.  Keep the outside of the carboys clean and dry.  Use a handle.



Ha! Let's be realistic here :)

/been brewing for years, never had a carboy break
//brew hauler FTW
 
2014-01-17 12:23:36 AM

ZeroCorpse: Or I could stay at a motel for $30 a night, or maybe drive across state and stay with relatives for a month if need be.


Well captain obvious, yes go to a hotel if you can. But yeah right, $30 a night is hard to find these days and definitely hard to find after a disaster. And disasters happen, last year, so long ago I know, everyone in my state was ordered to stay put during a massive snow storm and they were arresting anyone who didn't as a felony. The other year we had a snow storm that crippled power for half of the state for a few days too weeks in some places and travel was a challenge. And I'm going to guess that you didn't live in the south either when Katrina landed like I did. I don't know, but I'm guessing you haven't been in the situation where you were thinking about providing food for people hit hardest, because that's what I was doing. I'm going to guess statewide disasters, power outages and travel restrictions is something you don't have as much experience with.

But my experience is that these are things that happen once in a while and these things have happened in my life. And I'm not saying people should go all bunker crazy, but there is nothing wrong with taking advantage of the advantages you already have! Like being friends with your neighbors. Or spending $20 so you can use your car as a power plant when the power company is offline and you're ordered not to use the road. And why not? If you are stuck with no power and you have a V6 generator, why not use it!

I don't have a bunker, I'm not Mormon, but at the last statewide disaster I was passing out candles to neighbors who had no candles, no flashlights and no power. Most people aren't even prepared for the lights to go out. All I'm saying is you don't have to be bunker crazy to get through a disaster with a little dignity.

Anyway it's cool, I expected a lot more snarkyness then the one liner you gave me after my post.

Regarding this article. Hahaha. Dang, this prepper guy is someone who really can't manage to stay out of prison in the good times! He definitely isn't going to do well if times got difficult because communities stick together and that's not the kind of guy people like to have around!
 
2014-01-17 12:58:11 AM

steam_cannon: ZeroCorpse: Or I could stay at a motel for $30 a night, or maybe drive across state and stay with relatives for a month if need be.

Well captain obvious, yes go to a hotel if you can. But yeah right, $30 a night is hard to find these days and definitely hard to find after a disaster. And disasters happen, last year, so long ago I know, everyone in my state was ordered to stay put during a massive snow storm and they were arresting anyone who didn't as a felony. The other year we had a snow storm that crippled power for half of the state for a few days too weeks in some places and travel was a challenge. And I'm going to guess that you didn't live in the south either when Katrina landed like I did. I don't know, but I'm guessing you haven't been in the situation where you were thinking about providing food for people hit hardest, because that's what I was doing. I'm going to guess statewide disasters, power outages and travel restrictions is something you don't have as much experience with.

But my experience is that these are things that happen once in a while and these things have happened in my life. And I'm not saying people should go all bunker crazy, but there is nothing wrong with taking advantage of the advantages you already have! Like being friends with your neighbors. Or spending $20 so you can use your car as a power plant when the power company is offline and you're ordered not to use the road. And why not? If you are stuck with no power and you have a V6 generator, why not use it!

I don't have a bunker, I'm not Mormon, but at the last statewide disaster I was passing out candles to neighbors who had no candles, no flashlights and no power. Most people aren't even prepared for the lights to go out. All I'm saying is you don't have to be bunker crazy to get through a disaster with a little dignity.

Anyway it's cool, I expected a lot more snarkyness then the one liner you gave me after my post.

Regarding this article. Hahaha. Dang, this prepper guy is ...


Citation needed.

/Prove me wrong.
 
2014-01-17 09:12:43 AM

SearchN: steam_cannon: And disasters happen, last year, so long ago I know, everyone in my state was ordered to stay put during a massive snow storm and they were arresting anyone who didn't as a felony...

Citation needed.
/Prove me wrong.


Ok SearchN, I guess you're asking me to back up my statement with a citation.

google: blizzard massachusetts 2013 driving ban

Last year we had a four state emergency in New England and a travel ban.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/08/patrick-declares-state-of-emer ge ncy-announces-travel-ban-in-mass/
Quote: "At a news conference at the MEMA bunker in Framingham, Patrick told reporters..." "If you don't have an exemption and you're caught on the road, the penalty could be as steep as a $500 fine or, at worst, a year in jail."

I remember a lot of media sources mentioning the year in jail threat and I believe one newspaper mentioned the word felony, but I can't reference it since I don't keep stacks of newspapers like some kind of crazy prepper! Hahaha :P

But the important thing to remember from this is that in an emergency you may be stuck where you are. A few years before there another blizzard that knocked out power all over the state. Though there was no travel ban, hotels all across New England were all full from families with kids and they were charging jacked up rates.
And I think schools my area were opening up cafeterias as warming shelters. Try Google if you need a reference.
 
2014-01-17 09:37:29 AM

ZeroCorpse: Or I could stay at a motel for $30 a night, or maybe drive across state and stay with relatives for a month if need be.


Did people stuck after Katrina have that choice?
 
2014-01-17 10:35:10 AM
Thanks for the power inverter idea, steam. My biggest fear is that when/if an earthquake hits is finding a way to power our fridge/freezers. I know my FIL has a generator, but I would like to have another option if need be. Our freezer is usually stocked and it would be nice to keep it running if we did lose power for an extended period of time.

//luckily here in CA, weather usually isn't that extreme. Even on our coldest nights, staying in our trailer with a few extra blankets wouldn't be terrible if something happened to the house. A tent would work for most of the year.
 
2014-01-17 02:25:30 PM

steam_cannon: SearchN: steam_cannon: And disasters happen, last year, so long ago I know, everyone in my state was ordered to stay put during a massive snow storm and they were arresting anyone who didn't as a felony...

Citation needed.
/Prove me wrong.

Ok SearchN, I guess you're asking me to back up my statement with a citation.

google: blizzard massachusetts 2013 driving ban

Last year we had a four state emergency in New England and a travel ban.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/08/patrick-declares-state-of-emer ge ncy-announces-travel-ban-in-mass/
Quote: "At a news conference at the MEMA bunker in Framingham, Patrick told reporters..." "If you don't have an exemption and you're caught on the road, the penalty could be as steep as a $500 fine or, at worst, a year in jail."

I remember a lot of media sources mentioning the year in jail threat and I believe one newspaper mentioned the word felony, but I can't reference it since I don't keep stacks of newspapers like some kind of crazy prepper! Hahaha :P

But the important thing to remember from this is that in an emergency you may be stuck where you are. A few years before there another blizzard that knocked out power all over the state. Though there was no travel ban, hotels all across New England were all full from families with kids and they were charging jacked up rates.
And I think schools my area were opening up cafeterias as warming shelters. Try Google if you need a reference.


Wow. I honestly thought you were blowing smoke. My apologizes.
 
2014-01-17 05:09:04 PM

ZeroCorpse: Here's what I picture for most of these prepper guys.

Day 1: I have secured my bunker. I have enough food, water, and weapons to last 30 years.

Day 30: It sounds like the war is over, but the radio stopped broadcasting days ago. I'm not budging.

Day 104: I AM SO SICK OF WATCHING THE SAME VIDEOS OVER AND OVER.

Day 320: Having ramen noodles again. I think I hurt my tooth on a stone that was in last night's can of baked beans.

Day 330: Ten days now with this toothache. It's getting hard to concentrate on anything.

Day 350: I decided to use my pliers to pull the tooth. It was bleeding a lot, but I think I got it under control.

Day 358: Fever. Head hurts. Mouth is swollen. Infection? Need to check books. Antibiotics not working.

Day 362: i wir gggg  fggn die

Day 363:  [No entries from this point onward]


The opposite of this sums up my 'Bug Out Bag"
I have full medical field kit with lots of antibiotics, a couple of combi gold bars, water purifier, and 7 days of rations.
I figure I can trade medical skills for just about anything during the zombie Apocalypse. 
(and just in case, a 9mm and 100 rounds)
 
2014-01-17 05:20:21 PM

jnapier: ZeroCorpse: Here's what I picture for most of these prepper guys.

Day 1: I have secured my bunker. I have enough food, water, and weapons to last 30 years.

Day 30: It sounds like the war is over, but the radio stopped broadcasting days ago. I'm not budging.

Day 104: I AM SO SICK OF WATCHING THE SAME VIDEOS OVER AND OVER.

Day 320: Having ramen noodles again. I think I hurt my tooth on a stone that was in last night's can of baked beans.

Day 330: Ten days now with this toothache. It's getting hard to concentrate on anything.

Day 350: I decided to use my pliers to pull the tooth. It was bleeding a lot, but I think I got it under control.

Day 358: Fever. Head hurts. Mouth is swollen. Infection? Need to check books. Antibiotics not working.

Day 362: i wir gggg  fggn die

Day 363:  [No entries from this point onward]

The opposite of this sums up my 'Bug Out Bag"
I have full medical field kit with lots of antibiotics, a couple of combi gold bars, water purifier, and 7 days of rations.
I figure I can trade medical skills for just about anything during the zombie Apocalypse. 
(and just in case, a 9mm and 100 rounds)


You should increase that by another 900 rounds. 100 rounds will go fast. Also, make it a mixture of target rounds and hollow points. You are still going to need to practice with it to keep your aim true.
 
2014-01-17 06:33:58 PM

SearchN: Wow. I honestly thought you were blowing smoke. My apologizes.


It's cool, that's the internet. I started to go overboard too with my "Try Google if you need a reference."

SearchN: Also, make it a mixture of target rounds and hollow points. You are still going to need to practice with it to keep your aim true.

Hahaha, I love how this thread has degenerated into a discussion on prepping ideas, but why not.

Regarding backpacks full of ammo, I don't think walking around with backpacks full of ammo is a good idea. I don't know how much you should have for hunting but if it's for hunting, put it in a secure place in your hunting cabin, maybe buryable ammo cans. Maybe you're not in Alaska so I don't know if that's legal where you are, but I think people do that. Anyway if it's not for immediate use, then you're probably better off not carrying it around. That's what I think. I get the feeling having lots of ammo readily available isn't a good idea and you'll just lose it.

After Katrina the first thing the police did was raid homes to destroy legal gun owners guns and ammo. Lots of hunting equipment, antique guns and family heirlooms were destroyed, last I heard only a small fraction was returned years later. That pissed a lot of people off not just because their legal property was destroyed but also because at the time it meant that only the looters had guns. Katrina has a lot of messed up stuff, police taking guns from legal owners, the Danziger Bridge shootings with police shooting people trying to cross a bridge to the rich side of town. All kinds of messed up stuff. So anyway, my point is if there was a real emergency, I don't think walking around with backpacks full of ammo is a good idea.

New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national/nationalspecial/08cnd-sto rm .html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

Danziger Bridge shootings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings
 
2014-01-17 07:03:22 PM

steam_cannon: SearchN: Wow. I honestly thought you were blowing smoke. My apologizes.

It's cool, that's the internet. I started to go overboard too with my "Try Google if you need a reference."

SearchN: Also, make it a mixture of target rounds and hollow points. You are still going to need to practice with it to keep your aim true.

Hahaha, I love how this thread has degenerated into a discussion on prepping ideas, but why not.

Regarding backpacks full of ammo, I don't think walking around with backpacks full of ammo is a good idea. I don't know how much you should have for hunting but if it's for hunting, put it in a secure place in your hunting cabin, maybe buryable ammo cans. Maybe you're not in Alaska so I don't know if that's legal where you are, but I think people do that. Anyway if it's not for immediate use, then you're probably better off not carrying it around. That's what I think. I get the feeling having lots of ammo readily available isn't a good idea and you'll just lose it.

After Katrina the first thing the police did was raid homes to destroy legal gun owners guns and ammo. Lots of hunting equipment, antique guns and family heirlooms were destroyed, last I heard only a small fraction was returned years later. That pissed a lot of people off not just because their legal property was destroyed but also because at the time it meant that only the looters had guns. Katrina has a lot of messed up stuff, police taking guns from legal owners, the Danziger Bridge shootings with police shooting people trying to cross a bridge to the rich side of town. All kinds of messed up stuff. So anyway, my point is if there was a real emergency, I don't think walking around with backpacks full of ammo is a good idea.

New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national/nationalspecial/08cnd-sto rm .html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

Danziger Br ...


Considering the weight, no, not a good idea. Only need to carry enough for a couple of magazines. The rest you stash.
 
2014-01-17 07:34:47 PM
SearchN: Considering the weight, no, not a good idea. Only need to carry enough for a couple of magazines. The rest you stash.

Yes securing any ammo in a legal way makes much more sense then walking around like rambo. Though the mental image of that backpack did make me laugh! Lol :)
 
2014-01-17 07:49:41 PM

steam_cannon: SearchN: Considering the weight, no, not a good idea. Only need to carry enough for a couple of magazines. The rest you stash.

Yes securing any ammo in a legal way makes much more sense then walking around like rambo. Though the mental image of that backpack did make me laugh! Lol :)


Agreed. Even a couple of boxes of ammo gets pretty damn heavy after a while. I can't imaging carry 1000 rounds.
 
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