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2014-01-16 12:04:57 PM  
12 votes:
Zero. They've done zero for us.
2014-01-16 12:43:47 PM  
7 votes:
Fazlur Khan designed our tallest buildings.

Also:

makkah.files.wordpress.com

images.morris.com

www.arlingtoncemetery.net
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-16 10:58:48 AM  
6 votes:
They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.
2014-01-16 12:42:52 PM  
4 votes:
The Muslims buried in Arlington might disagree.
2014-01-16 12:11:03 PM  
4 votes:
What have Michigan Republicans ever done for us?
2014-01-16 12:04:16 PM  
4 votes:
Hard to make a list without using their numbers.
2014-01-16 12:43:52 PM  
3 votes:
Really, numbnuts?  Try doing long division using Roman numerals sometime.
2014-01-16 12:18:44 PM  
3 votes:
they - along with some irish monks - pretty much preserved classical learning for us while we were busy painting our faces blue and slaughtering each other during the dark ages.
2014-01-16 02:03:37 PM  
2 votes:
What have the Muslims ever done for us aside from coffee, cameras, experimental physics, chess, soap, shampoo, perfume/spirits, irrigation, crank-shaft internal combustion engine, valves, pistons, combination locks, architectural innovation (pointed arch -european gothic cathedrals adopted this technique as it made the building much stronger, rose windows, dome buildings, round towers, etc.), surgical instruments, anesthesia, windmills, treatment for cowpox, fountain pens, our numbering system, algebra/trigonometry, modern cryptology, the 3 course meal (soup, meat/fish, fruit/nuts), crystal glasses, carpets, checks, gardens used for beauty and meditation instead of for herbs and kitchen, universities, optics, music, toothbrushes, hospitals, bathing, quilting, mariner's compass, soft drinks, pendulums, braille, cosmetics, plastic surgery, calligraphy, manufacturing of paper and cloth?

Let's not forget that it was a Muslim who realized that light ENTERS our eyes, unlike the Greeks who thought we EMITTED rays (which lead to the invention of the camera), or a Muslim who first flew in 852, even though it is the Wright Brothers who have taken the credit.  Or a Muslim by the name of Jabir ibn Hayyan who was known as the founder of modern Chemistry, having invented distillation, purification, oxidation, evaporation, and filtration (he also discovered sulfuric and nitric acid.)   It is a Muslim, by the name of Al-Jazari, who is known as the father of robotics. It was a Muslim who was the architect for Henry V's castle. It was a Muslim who invented hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes (a technique still used today.) It was a Muslim who actually developed inoculation (not Jenner and Pasteur) to treat cowpox. It was even Muslims who discovered that the Earth was round (500 years before Galileo.)

But, you know, they've really never did much of anything for us.
2014-01-16 01:21:33 PM  
2 votes:
That's a particularly dumb thing for a politician in Michigan to say. Our state has a large Muslim population, especially Dearborn, which has the largest mosque in North America. It's just plain stupid to act like these folks aren't taxpaying American citizens who contribute to Michigan's economy and do their share.

This is possibly the worst state to say in which something like that.
2014-01-16 01:12:04 PM  
2 votes:
I'm torn.  As a Michigander, Dave Agema's attention-whoring and general terrible-ness is embarrassing.  But as a compassionate human being, I'm pleased that he's drawing attention to how horrible Republicans are.
2014-01-16 12:47:51 PM  
2 votes:

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: If we're gonna go by that, what have Michigan Americans contributed to us lately?


This Michican American Muslim that does something for me:

www.examiner.com
2014-01-16 12:24:34 PM  
2 votes:

whither_apophis: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Zero. They've done zero for us.

I thought they stole that from the Hindus?


Either way. They brought zero to the West.
2014-01-16 12:11:40 PM  
2 votes:

netizencain: mrshowrules: Comparing Muslim charity work to Catholic charity work.  Maybe the Catholic church wins that one but when it comes to priests/clerics raping children, I have to give the edge to our Muslim friends.

citation?


Nah, it's a felony
2014-01-16 11:14:52 AM  
2 votes:
Comparing Muslim charity work to Catholic charity work.  Maybe the Catholic church wins that one but when it comes to priests/clerics raping children, I have to give the edge to our Muslim friends.
2014-01-16 11:02:25 AM  
2 votes:
You mean, aside from operating half the businesses is SE Michigan and contributing billions of dollars of the state economy...you know, the state you live in?
2014-01-16 03:10:24 PM  
1 vote:

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I'd say he shot himself in the foot, but Michigan is gerrymandered to f--k and back.  So he stubbed his toe at best.


muslims (and blacks and latinos) tend to be quite conservative, at least culturally speaking. so you'd think that they'd be natural republicans. in fact, if it weren't for 50 solid years of virulent GOP racism, they might be republican constituencies today. so i'd say that the whole party has shot itself in its collective foot.
2014-01-16 03:09:50 PM  
1 vote:

liam76: "Have you ever seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?"


According to my definition of American way of life, yes.

According to the definition of the moron who posted this, probably not, since it likely includes the baby jesus.


DOH!

Fixed that for me.
2014-01-16 02:59:04 PM  
1 vote:

vpb: They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.


Plus don't forget all that they preserved of Greek mathematics and what they did contribute themselves- pretty necessary for the code for any iteration of Fark over the years.

I love it when a Republican pwns himself by demonstrating a pretty embarassing ignorance of basic farking world history.
2014-01-16 02:42:48 PM  
1 vote:
Preserved Western thought?
2014-01-16 02:19:45 PM  
1 vote:

netizencain: vpb: They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.

 So you're saying that American Muslims invented distillation?  Because that's what the farking article is about... American Muslims.


Um, let's see.  My family is from SE Michigan.  So if NOTHING ELSE, American Muslims have allowed me to grow up with freaking awesome bakeries and restaurants and fresh juice bars and the best salad ever created (fattoush), and you know what, that's enough.

/you know, and cool neighbors, adding to the local economy, blah blah blah
2014-01-16 02:05:22 PM  
1 vote:

StopLurkListen: Fark It: StopLurkListen: ArmoksHolyBeard: Well apart from the algebra, zero, and the distillation, what have the bloody Muslims ever done for us?!

Apart from astronomy, anatomy, hydrology, coffee, algebra, zero, and distillation, what have the Muslims ever done for us?!

Preserved Ancient Greek literature, philosophical (often considered the foundation of Western Democracy) and scientific texts during the Dark Ages?

Apart from philosophy, medicine, cartography, astronomy, anatomy, hydrology, coffee, algebra, zero, distillation, and preserving classical history, what have the Muslims ever done for us?!


upload.wikimedia.org
2014-01-16 02:00:28 PM  
1 vote:
I'd say Algebra, but I am not going to expect a Republican to ever understand basic math...
2014-01-16 01:52:45 PM  
1 vote:
More bullshiat from Dave Agema.

He comes from my region, and has raised quite a stir here in recent months with his antigay comments. Among other things, he's said that gays want domestic partner health benefits because they all die from AIDS at a young age, and that Vladamir Putin's antigay laws are "common sense."

The funny thing is that Agem'a an obvious closet case. One of these days, he's going to be busted in an airport bathroom wearing a rubber boy scout uniform and holding two guys' junk.

I mean, come on. Just look at him.
2014-01-16 01:34:50 PM  
1 vote:
media.mlive.com

classy as shiat too

He got me wondering, what has Dave Agema ever done for us

Well in another brilliant Facebook post he called Russia's anti-gay propaganda law is "common sense"
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/01/dave_agema_ ru ssian_anti-gay_pr.html

His anti-gay marriage remarks, including that gay people "want free medical because they're dying" young due to AIDS,
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2013/12/dave_agemas _f ull_statements_pu.html


He was apparently at the Battle of dumbass Duck Show:
"Good for them," Agema wrote. "The LGBT Gestapo speech police will not succeed when families like them are Biblically solid. You are in our prayers. May A&E fall into the pit they dug for you. STAND!"
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2013/12/dave_agema_ fi nds_kinship_with.html

In 2013, he faced calls to resign from the Republican National Committee after he posted extracts from an article entitled "Everyone Should Know These Statistics On Homosexuals" which claimed homosexuals lived a "filthy lifestyle", were responsible for 50 percent of U.S. murders and that many are pedophiles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Agema

/just the sort of fellow you'd expect to be leading the Michigan GOP
2014-01-16 01:30:16 PM  
1 vote:

vpb: They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.


Distillation dates to the first century CE, in Alexandria.  So similar historical region, but Islam didn't exist until the 600s so you're off by a few centuries.  And Alcohol has been a part of out diet since before we even branched into our current species.

That said, the question was "what have muslims done for  us", meaning the US.

So, a few random examples of famous Americans that actually did something useful to become famous (e.g. no sport players that converted to dodge the draft):

Fazlur Khan - Architect that designed the Sears Tower among other things
Ahmed Zewali - Nobel Prize, Chemistry, 1999
Zalmay Khalilzad - Former Ambassador to the UN
Mohamed A. El-Erian - CEO of PIMCO, one of the largest financial entities in the world

Plus, y'know, a farkton of US soldiers are muslim if supporting the troops is your thing.
2014-01-16 01:27:08 PM  
1 vote:
Oh, I see... It's Agema. He's an asshole from Grandville, which is the Grand Rapids area (known for being the conservative armpit of Michigan; If you aren't Dutch, Catholic/Christian, and Republican out there, you might as well not exist). He's also known for saying pretty awful things about homosexuals and liberals. In brief, he's a typical hate-filled Grand Rapids conservative xenophobe.

There's a reason I moved away from that place. Guys like Agema being the norm is it.
2014-01-16 01:23:02 PM  
1 vote:

nmrsnr: mayIFark: However, since he was complaining about Muslims and not Arabs (I doubt he knows the difference), melanin should have nothing to do with it, or the fact that they were not born Muslim (I don't know if they were, or not).

None of them were.

Kareem Abdul Jabbar: born Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr., converted in college.
Malcolm X: born Malcolm Little, converted in prison.
Muhammad Ali: born Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr., converted during his boxing career.


OK, cool. The point still stands though.
2014-01-16 01:15:05 PM  
1 vote:

Fark It: StopLurkListen: ArmoksHolyBeard: Well apart from the algebra, zero, and the distillation, what have the bloody Muslims ever done for us?!

Apart from astronomy, anatomy, hydrology, coffee, algebra, zero, and distillation, what have the Muslims ever done for us?!

Preserved Ancient Greek literature, philosophical (often considered the foundation of Western Democracy) and scientific texts during the Dark Ages?


Apart from philosophy, medicine, cartography, astronomy, anatomy, hydrology, coffee, algebra, zero, distillation, and preserving classical history, what have the Muslims ever done for us?!
2014-01-16 01:15:03 PM  
1 vote:

Fark It: StopLurkListen: ArmoksHolyBeard: Well apart from the algebra, zero, and the distillation, what have the bloody Muslims ever done for us?!

Apart from astronomy, anatomy, hydrology, coffee, algebra, zero, and distillation, what have the Muslims ever done for us?!

Preserved Ancient Greek literature, philosophical (often considered the foundation of Western Democracy) and scientific texts during the Dark Ages?


And Alchemy.
2014-01-16 01:13:58 PM  
1 vote:

vpb: They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.


Also, the arabic numbers, plus 0, but that is a very different discussion.

And, they preserved -and improved- knowledge of Roman Engineering and Architecture, right alongside the Byzantines.
2014-01-16 01:12:55 PM  
1 vote:

StopLurkListen: ArmoksHolyBeard: Well apart from the algebra, zero, and the distillation, what have the bloody Muslims ever done for us?!

Apart from astronomy, anatomy, hydrology, coffee, algebra, zero, and distillation, what have the Muslims ever done for us?!


Preserved Ancient Greek literature, philosophical (often considered the foundation of Western Democracy) and scientific texts during the Dark Ages?
2014-01-16 01:10:07 PM  
1 vote:

ArmoksHolyBeard: Well apart from the algebra, zero, and the distillation, what have the bloody Muslims ever done for us?!


Apart from astronomy, anatomy, hydrology, coffee, algebra, zero, and distillation, what have the Muslims ever done for us?!
2014-01-16 01:09:21 PM  
1 vote:

demaL-demaL-yeH: nmrsnr: mayIFark: Malcomb X

Karim Abdur Jabbar

Mohamed Ali

Ring a bell?

Okay, there's no way you really misspelled all three of those names, so what joke am I missing?

None of the men listed was/is/is melanin-disadvantaged. (And I think they were converts to Islam, but I'm not certain.)


I don't know for sure either. I didn't think of it hard enough before (as apparent from my inability to spell the name correctly). It was the first 3 names came to mind.

However, since he was complaining about Muslims and not Arabs (I doubt he knows the difference), melanin should have nothing to do with it, or the fact that they were not born Muslim (I don't know if they were, or not).
2014-01-16 01:02:04 PM  
1 vote:

nmrsnr: mayIFark: Malco

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Karim Abdur Jabbar

Mohamed Ali

Ring a bell?

Okay, there's no way you really misspelled all three of those names, so what joke am I missing?


If I did, it was unintentional. Sorry. Its hard to get the spelling right when the spell checker doesn't help. But I'm pretty sure you know the persons I was referring to.
2014-01-16 12:58:27 PM  
1 vote:

sigdiamond2000: You mean, aside from operating half the businesses is SE Michigan and contributing billions of dollars of the state economy...you know, the state you live in?


^^
THIS



Seriously, these GOPers are hardly trying anymore. Muslims are very heavily involved in all sorts of businesses all around me.
Anecdotaly I can say the many Michigan muslims I know personally are some of the hardest working people I know.

/maybe our shamefully embarrassing Michigan GOP should stick to rape insurance for a while
//seriously embarrassed
///I'm glad social media gives men like this a platform to display their stupidity for all to see
2014-01-16 12:55:42 PM  
1 vote:
They make Republicans shiat themselves with panicked fear. That's something.

No. I guess it's not something. Everyone and everything makes Republicans shiat themselves with panicked fear.
2014-01-16 12:55:19 PM  
1 vote:

ArmoksHolyBeard: Well apart from the algebra, zero, and the distillation, what have the bloody Muslims ever done for us?!


This is turning into a Graham Chapman sketch...

www.bbc.co.uk
2014-01-16 12:54:02 PM  
1 vote:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Zero. They've done zero for us.


Zero was being used well before Christianity existed, much less Islam. If this guy had said "arabs" instead of "Muslims" your joke would be on point.
2014-01-16 12:50:28 PM  
1 vote:
Well apart from the algebra, zero, and the distillation, what have the bloody Muslims ever done for us?!
2014-01-16 12:46:15 PM  
1 vote:
This guy is a nut.  He's been under fire for bashing gays and now this.  The funniest thing about it is that the GOP leadership doesn't tell him to STFU which is why people have a hard time taking the GOP seriously.  And I thought the LP had it's share of nuts.
2014-01-16 12:40:23 PM  
1 vote:
Given the GOP another boogieman with which to scare the rubes into voting against their own interests?

What do I win?
2014-01-16 12:40:02 PM  
1 vote:
Republicans are racists and religious bigots.

Film at 11.
2014-01-16 12:36:44 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: they - along with some irish monks - pretty much preserved classical learning for us while we were busy painting our faces blue and slaughtering each other during the dark ages.




That's actually a bit of a lie. The west didn't just suddenly become ignorant during the dark ages. Knowledge gained in ancient times still was retained in major cities. That's just the Protestant Enlightenment propaganda trying to make their time look better.

The dark ages was just the time period where the lines of communications and social infrastructures that were developed under Roman Empire dissolved. As a result, there were plenty of wars to fill power vacuum left behind. Also the plague wiped out a huge chunk of the workforce.

But there were several universities founded in Europe during that time period, they knew the earth was round and many of the things the ancient Greeks knew. What they didn't know was perhaps the original documents.

Which is why historians call that time period, the Middle Ages now and not the dark ages.
2014-01-16 12:32:25 PM  
1 vote:
The vast majority of the works of classical writers from ancient Rome and Greece survive to us through Muslim scholars. While in the west, the much of the learnings of the ancient philosophers and mathematicians were lost in the Dark Ages, the Muslim scholars translated and preserved much of their writings. Many of the modern English translations you can read today are translated from Arabic at one point.

Meanwhile, at around the same time in the West, a monk destroyed a parchment written on by Archimedes laying out the foundations for Calculus thousands of years before Newton and Liebnitz so he can reuse the parchment to write a prayer book.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/prayer-archimedes
2014-01-16 12:19:28 PM  
1 vote:
What have the Muslim world given us?

Zero.

Literally the concept of zero.

With out it we'd never reach the stars
www.empowermm.com
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-16 12:12:56 PM  
1 vote:

Nadie_AZ: BravadoGT: vpb: They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.

So there was no alcohol before 500AD or so?

Dude, it took a miracle to get water to wine before then.


There would be no distilled alcohol coontil someone else came up with it).  Makers Mark for instance.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-16 12:11:41 PM  
1 vote:

netizencain: vpb: They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.

 So you're saying that American Muslims invented distillation?  Because that's what the farking article is about... American Muslims.


No, I saying I don't give a fark about TFA because I'd rather talk about alcohol.

And I wanted to piss you off too.  Both.
2014-01-16 12:10:14 PM  
1 vote:
Also, a Muslim man invented / discovered (building on the works of others, of course) what we now call Algebra, though I imagine that Mr Agema probably doesn't have much call for science in his daily life.
2014-01-16 12:06:52 PM  
1 vote:

netizencain: vpb: They invented distillation.  The word alcohol comes from Arabic.

If it wasn't for Muslims there would be no Fark.

 So you're saying that American Muslims invented distillation?  Because that's what the farking article is about... American Muslims.


If we're gonna go by that, what have Michigan Americans contributed to us lately?
2014-01-16 11:29:18 AM  
1 vote:
Base 10 decimal number system?
2014-01-16 11:11:39 AM  
1 vote:

Nadie_AZ: "Have you ever seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?" it asked.

Would it matter? Really? Who cares? F*cking dumbass. We've lots of <insert whatever you want here> people who sit on their asses, do sh*t all with their lives and never vote. Ever questioned them?


Have you ever seen a dutch person do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?

fark no.  Those pricks never pick up the tab at a restaurant.
2014-01-16 11:05:38 AM  
1 vote:
For Republicans? Well one is invested heavily in Fox News...
2014-01-16 11:03:21 AM  
1 vote:
Al Gerbra
 
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