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(Daily Mail)   The wife of Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill returns rental car and leaves an AR-15 on the backseat. Police say not to panic, the weapon has the same power and accuracy as her husband's throwing arm   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 471
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2014-01-16 12:57:08 PM  

lilplatinum: I am sure you call everything by it's technical name rather than any common name that has come into being through the vernacular.  I'm sure, for example, that you always call the pedal that causes your car to accelerate the throttle, rather than the gas pedal.


And I am sure that you call a barrel shroud a 'shoulder thing that goes up', with rest of the gun grabbers, right?
 
2014-01-16 12:57:23 PM  

lilplatinum: I am sure you call everything by it's technical name rather than any common name that has come into being through the vernacular.


When discussing regulations on that thing? You bet your ass you should be using the technical name.
 
2014-01-16 12:58:40 PM  

Dimensio: lilplatinum: I'm sure, for example, that you always call the pedal that causes your car to accelerate the throttle, rather than the gas pedal.

I actually do refer to the acceleration pedal as the "throttle".


I call it the accelerator. 2nd one is the brake. Third one, hopefully, is the clutch. I do like manual transmissions.
 
2014-01-16 01:00:35 PM  

redmid17: Dimensio: lilplatinum: I'm sure, for example, that you always call the pedal that causes your car to accelerate the throttle, rather than the gas pedal.

I actually do refer to the acceleration pedal as the "throttle".

I call it the accelerator. 2nd one is the brake. Third one, hopefully, is the clutch. I do like manual transmissions.


If the leftmost pedal (discounting the dead pedal) in an automobile that I am driving is not a clutch pedal, prepare for unexpected sudden stops.
 
2014-01-16 01:01:01 PM  

HeadLever: croesius: I would imagine a proper assassination attempt would use a caliber with a bit more oomph.

To really reach out and touch someone:
[truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com image 608x335]

Now that is my type of rifle. Remmy 700 with a Leopold gold ring.  You can keep your ARs and I'll take me a good ol bolty anyday.


My favorite rig:

[www.6mmbr.citymaker.com image 640x347]


Now that is a beaut of a stock!
 
2014-01-16 01:01:20 PM  

croesius: The misuse of the most appropriate word for an item for another word which is less appropriate for the item being referenced still remains. Just because a large number of people don't care enough to use the best choice to describe something does not make it correct. It may make it passable in day-to-day conversation with people who have no stake in the argument, but when involved in a discussion on said item as the focal point, it makes a person look uninformed on the subject. The people you are talking with know what you are trying to say, but they also know that there is a much better term for it.


If you are writing a technical paper on the subject of guns, your argument might hold water.  For the vast majority of conversations a normal non gun-nut human being would ever have, there is absolutely nothing wrong with calling a magazine a clip, which is why the language has evolved to make the two terms synonymous.

Plus calling it a clip has the added advantage of enraging idiots.
 
2014-01-16 01:01:43 PM  

Dimensio: redmid17: Dimensio: lilplatinum: I'm sure, for example, that you always call the pedal that causes your car to accelerate the throttle, rather than the gas pedal.

I actually do refer to the acceleration pedal as the "throttle".

I call it the accelerator. 2nd one is the brake. Third one, hopefully, is the clutch. I do like manual transmissions.

If the leftmost pedal (discounting the dead pedal) in an automobile that I am driving is not a clutch pedal, prepare for unexpected sudden stops.


My mom spun out a few news vans that way (in snowy weather). Then again, she's also not the greatest driver either.
 
2014-01-16 01:02:32 PM  

lilplatinum: Plus calling it a clip has the added advantage of enraging idiots.


Do you know what else enrages idiots?

Calling gun ownership a constitutional right.
 
2014-01-16 01:02:48 PM  

HeadLever: lilplatinum: I am sure you call everything by it's technical name rather than any common name that has come into being through the vernacular.  I'm sure, for example, that you always call the pedal that causes your car to accelerate the throttle, rather than the gas pedal.

And I am sure that you call a barrel shroud a 'shoulder thing that goes up', with rest of the gun grabbers, right?


No, that is not in the dictionary as a synonym for barrel shroud, so the compensators have nothing to whine about that one.
 
2014-01-16 01:03:11 PM  
It's Miami, you'd think the rental cars would come with AK-47s.
 
2014-01-16 01:03:33 PM  

JesseL: lilplatinum: Molavian: [i184.photobucket.com image 344x415]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clip

No there isn't.

The dictionary is stupid.

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

If you want to be the sort of person who willfully participates in the destruction of useful words through misuse, go ahead. The fact that you have a lot of company doesn't make you any less a cretin.


Keep in mind this is the same person whose appeal to authority defers to people who just recently included "derp" and "twerk" as proper, book 'em for the ages, words.
 
2014-01-16 01:03:37 PM  
You never know when you'll need to clear a room full of kindergartners. Be prepared.
 
2014-01-16 01:03:42 PM  

Fark It: lilplatinum: Plus calling it a clip has the added advantage of enraging idiots.

Do you know what else enrages idiots?

Calling gun ownership a constitutional right.


I never claimed it wasn't.  Practicing religion is a constitutional right too, it doesn't make those that practice it any less idiotic.
 
2014-01-16 01:03:50 PM  

lilplatinum: JesseL: If you want to be the sort of person who willfully participates in the destruction of useful words through misuse, go ahead. The fact that you have a lot of company doesn't make you any less a cretin.

A gun nut with a hardon for lingustic prescription, amazing!

I am sure you call everything by it's technical name rather than any common name that has come into being through the vernacular.  I'm sure, for example, that you always call the pedal that causes your car to accelerate the throttle, rather than the gas pedal.


I don't care about prescription vs description so much as I care about precision. There are some words that have a specific technical meaning that is necessary for making critical distinctions. When someone insists on muddying the meaning of that word they're destroying a useful tool and they rarely offer up a suitable replacement. It's linguistic vandalism.

And I do call a throttle a throttle - except when it's an accelerator. :P
 
2014-01-16 01:04:55 PM  

lilplatinum: HeadLever: lilplatinum: I am sure you call everything by it's technical name rather than any common name that has come into being through the vernacular.  I'm sure, for example, that you always call the pedal that causes your car to accelerate the throttle, rather than the gas pedal.

And I am sure that you call a barrel shroud a 'shoulder thing that goes up', with rest of the gun grabbers, right?

No, that is not in the dictionary as a synonym for barrel shroud, so the compensators have nothing to whine about that one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo

Gun control advocates:  So stupid they make Tucker Carlson look like an actual journalist.
 
2014-01-16 01:06:24 PM  

umad: lilplatinum: I am sure you call everything by it's technical name rather than any common name that has come into being through the vernacular.

When discussing regulations on that thing? You bet your ass you should be using the technical name.


Meh, when discussing regulations the vernacular is fine.  I would grant you that when WRITING regulations the most technical verbage possible should be used, but no one in any gun thread on fark is doing that.
 
2014-01-16 01:06:26 PM  
I'm all for gun rights, but how is this not even a misdemeanor?
 
2014-01-16 01:06:36 PM  

lilplatinum: croesius: The misuse of the most appropriate word for an item for another word which is less appropriate for the item being referenced still remains. Just because a large number of people don't care enough to use the best choice to describe something does not make it correct. It may make it passable in day-to-day conversation with people who have no stake in the argument, but when involved in a discussion on said item as the focal point, it makes a person look uninformed on the subject. The people you are talking with know what you are trying to say, but they also know that there is a much better term for it.

If you are writing a technical paper on the subject of guns, your argument might hold water.  For the vast majority of conversations a normal non gun-nut human being would ever have, there is absolutely nothing wrong with calling a magazine a clip, which is why the language has evolved to make the two terms synonymous.

Plus calling it a clip has the added advantage of enraging idiots.


Like I mentioned, people who are uninformed on the subject won't notice the use of words that aren't used accurately. In all subjects, people who are informed on the matters being discussed will know that you are uninformed. Be it firearms, automobiles, cooking, singling yourself out as being ignorant is never really the best route to go, but is a route taken by many. Take that as you will.
 
2014-01-16 01:06:50 PM  

lilplatinum: No, that is not in the dictionary as a synonym for barrel shroud,


That would have been news to Carolyn McCarthy then.  Maybe she should have consulted (at the very least) a dictionary before pushing her ban on said item.
 
2014-01-16 01:07:03 PM  
WTF happened in here?
*sees "Main" designation*
Oh, no wonder
 
2014-01-16 01:07:43 PM  
Yet another "responsible" gun owner.
 
2014-01-16 01:09:57 PM  

lilplatinum: Plus calling it a clip has the added advantage of enraging idiots.


I wouldn't call them idiots but some farkers are so easy to troll.

Gun rights activists
Global climate change
Atheists

Used to be the "rape is never funny" bunch but they seem to have mostly moved on.
 
2014-01-16 01:12:07 PM  
HeadLever: lilplatinum: No, that is not in the dictionary as a synonym for barrel shroud,

That would have been news to Carolyn McCarthy then.  Maybe she should have consulted (at the very least) a dictionary before pushing her ban on said item.


I agree, shes an idiot and most of the attempted bans are poorly written.  Unfortunately we're stuck with an archaic amendment (amusingly in existance so we wouldn't end up with a gigantic standing army, which the founders believed is a tool of tyranny) that makes this all irrelevant, as our archaic constitution is fairly difficult to fix, especially in this political environment.  I've never denied we're stuck with these stupid things.
 
2014-01-16 01:13:01 PM  

jruland: that's ridiculous. just look at tom brady and his wife.

queenofsports.com


I think she had to dye her hair blonde, as a requirement for the marriage.
 
2014-01-16 01:13:17 PM  

croesius: Like I mentioned, people who are uninformed on the subject won't notice the use of words that aren't used accurately. In all subjects, people who are informed on the matters being discussed will know that you are uninformed. Be it firearms, automobiles, cooking, singling yourself out as being ignorant is never really the best route to go, but is a route taken by many. Take that as you will.


Not using technical terminology in casual conversation is not a sign of ignorance, and I am 100% certain you do it on a daily basis on things you don't care for as much as firearms.
 
2014-01-16 01:14:53 PM  
I came for a thread full of pictures of Ryan Tannehill's hot wife and, with few exceptions, all I got was a bunch of morons arguing about nothing for the sixteen-thousandth time since last December.

You people suck.
 
2014-01-16 01:15:52 PM  

Mikey1969: Doesn't make it illegal. Besides, loaded, not loaded ddoesn't change the fact that the gun isn't a sentient being IR anything... Yes, its always safer to unload the gun when not in use, but that doesn't justify this woman "almost throwing up"...


The bulimic tendencies of the woman are mostly irrelevant. I just assumed she was trying to make a huge deal out of it so she could sue someone. Because America.
 
2014-01-16 01:16:32 PM  

skozlaw: I came for a thread full of pictures of Ryan Tannehill's hot wife and, with few exceptions, all I got was a bunch of morons arguing about nothing for the sixteen-thousandth time since last December.

You people suck.


Gun thread is going to win out over a Mrs. Tannehill thread just about any day of the week. You know that. Use google
 
2014-01-16 01:16:46 PM  

fatalvenom: fastfxr: As a Dolphins fan, this qualifies as HOTY.

I was hoping this thread would turn into making fun of Tannehill and pictures of his wife. Should have known better.

/Subby
//thanks guys


Pipe dream. Though someone with more of a psychology background than myself could provide some very interesting insights, I suspect, into why this thread, instead of being full of photos of scantily-clad blonde models, is instead awash with guns, guns and more guns.
 
2014-01-16 01:17:30 PM  

skozlaw: I came for a thread full of pictures of Ryan Tannehill's hot wife and, with few exceptions, all I got was a bunch of morons arguing about nothing for the sixteen-thousandth time since last December.

You people suck.


i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-01-16 01:18:15 PM  

croesius: Now that is a beaut of a stock!


Pretty much standard on Coopers.  They are not cheap but if you want form and function (guaranteed 1/2 moa @100yds)

That first scratch on that stock always is tough though.
 
2014-01-16 01:19:33 PM  

HeadLever: lilplatinum: No, that is not in the dictionary as a synonym for barrel shroud,

That would have been news to Carolyn McCarthy then.  Maybe she should have consulted (at the very least) a dictionary before pushing her ban on said item.


Preventing the multitude of high-profile homicides committed with M1 Garand rifles is too important a goal to be bothered with details.
 
2014-01-16 01:20:59 PM  

lilplatinum: I agree, shes an idiot and most of the attempted bans are poorly written.


so let's use more slang and vernacular language because that would defiantly clear things up, amiright?
 
2014-01-16 01:23:08 PM  

lilplatinum: croesius: Like I mentioned, people who are uninformed on the subject won't notice the use of words that aren't used accurately. In all subjects, people who are informed on the matters being discussed will know that you are uninformed. Be it firearms, automobiles, cooking, singling yourself out as being ignorant is never really the best route to go, but is a route taken by many. Take that as you will.

Not using technical terminology in casual conversation is not a sign of ignorance, and I am 100% certain you do it on a daily basis on things you don't care for as much as firearms.


I am, in fact, a pedant with respect to most subjects.
 
2014-01-16 01:23:33 PM  
lilplatinum:Not using technical terminology in casual conversation is not a sign of ignorance, and I am 100% certain you do it on a daily basis on things you don't care for as much as firearms.

If I know better, I'll always use the correct terminology.

Maybe to you it isn't a sign of ignorance, but then you're willfully ignorant. Who knows how much esteem you've sacrificed in the eyes of people more discerning than yourself?
 
2014-01-16 01:24:17 PM  

Dimensio: inner ted: so what ARE barrel shrouds, folding stocks, laser sights, holographic sights & high capacity magazines for??? just to look cool & scary?  to be able to recreate your favorite rifle from bf4 or cod? surely they have some function that adds to the ability of the weapon right?

What purpose is served by banning such features?


couldn't quite figure out a decent answer?

JesseL: inner ted: so what ARE barrel shrouds, folding stocks, laser sights, holographic sights & high capacity magazines for??? just to look cool & scary? to be able to recreate your favorite rifle from bf4 or cod? surely they have some function that adds to the ability of the weapon right?

na... probably just to look cool & scary

Those are to keep you from burning yourself, to make it easier to store a gun or manipulate it in confined spaces, to aid in aiming, and to be able to shoot more without reloading.

Some of those may be convenient to criminals, but they're also legitimate improvements for people who intend to use their guns lawfully.


that is a decent answer
 
2014-01-16 01:24:52 PM  

Dimensio: lilplatinum: croesius: Like I mentioned, people who are uninformed on the subject won't notice the use of words that aren't used accurately. In all subjects, people who are informed on the matters being discussed will know that you are uninformed. Be it firearms, automobiles, cooking, singling yourself out as being ignorant is never really the best route to go, but is a route taken by many. Take that as you will.

Not using technical terminology in casual conversation is not a sign of ignorance, and I am 100% certain you do it on a daily basis on things you don't care for as much as firearms.

I am, in fact, a pedant with respect to most subjects.


I find that I'm also a pedant with respect to most subjects. The most intelligent ones usually are able to decipher my big words, so I have to have them thrown into ye olde gaol and tortured. Works out well for the most part.
 
2014-01-16 01:27:05 PM  
This is what gun owners consider responsible. The bar gets lower every single day.
 
2014-01-16 01:27:58 PM  
Instead of posting pictures of the women in question I see a bunch of adults being passive aggressive and catty about their irrelevant political views.

I want to SEE women, not people fighting like them.
 
2014-01-16 01:29:40 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: This is what gun owners consider responsible. The bar gets lower every single day.


Lowering the bar is what the Miami Dolphins do better than anything.
 
2014-01-16 01:30:56 PM  
JTFC.


JTFC, you guys.
 
2014-01-16 01:31:12 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: This is what gun owners consider responsible. The bar gets lower every single day.


You are correct, as is evident by all of the posts describing Ms. Tannehill's behavior as "responsible".
 
2014-01-16 01:31:59 PM  

super_grass: Instead of posting pictures of the women in question I see a bunch of adults being passive aggressive and catty about their irrelevant political views.

I want to SEE women, not people fighting like them.


My sexual orientation is incompatible with an interest in such images.
 
2014-01-16 01:33:48 PM  
The law should be anything capable of firing more than 6 shots without reloading is banned.
 
2014-01-16 01:34:19 PM  

JesseL: lilplatinum:Not using technical terminology in casual conversation is not a sign of ignorance, and I am 100% certain you do it on a daily basis on things you don't care for as much as firearms.

If I know better, I'll always use the correct terminology.

Maybe to you it isn't a sign of ignorance, but then you're willfully ignorant. Who knows how much esteem you've sacrificed in the eyes of people more discerning than yourself?


Ignorance would imply that I am unaware of the deliniation between the two things rather than abject apathy towards the feelings of overly sensitive people obsessed with tools/weapons.  Their esteem is not something of particular value.
 
2014-01-16 01:34:23 PM  

Publikwerks: The law should be anything capable of firing more than 6 shots without reloading is banned.


Your unreasonable and irrational proposal will be given all of the consideration that it deserves.
 
2014-01-16 01:34:32 PM  

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is what gun owners consider responsible. The bar gets lower every single day.

You are correct,


As always.
 
2014-01-16 01:36:35 PM  

HeadLever: lilplatinum: I agree, shes an idiot and most of the attempted bans are poorly written.

so let's use more slang and vernacular language because that would defiantly clear things up, amiright?


In conversation, sure.   At no point in my life when saying clip has it caused any confusion, at most it just caused amusement from the outrage of the weapon obsessed.  If, in some scenario it was actually important of me to make a technical distinction between two things, then I will switch to technical language.  Like pretty much everyone.  I don't believe for a nanosecond that all of you champions of lingustic purity never use vernacular terminology for things that could be described in a more technically precise way, you just get your panties in a wad when it comes to your hobbies.
 
2014-01-16 01:36:52 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: This is what gun owners consider responsible. The bar gets lower every single day.

You are correct,

As always.


Might I suggest, in the future, however that you provide direct references or quotes from individuals who expressed the sincere belief that the act of leaving a firearm in a rented vehicle is responsible behavior. Doing so will eliminate any ability for any challenger to claim that you are attempting to exaggerate or even to fully misrepresent reality.
 
2014-01-16 01:37:09 PM  

inner ted: Dimensio: inner ted: so what ARE barrel shrouds, folding stocks, laser sights, holographic sights & high capacity magazines for??? just to look cool & scary?  to be able to recreate your favorite rifle from bf4 or cod? surely they have some function that adds to the ability of the weapon right?

What purpose is served by banning such features?

couldn't quite figure out a decent answer?


I think their point is that the onus is on you to explain why people shouldn't have them, we don't have to justify their legality.
 
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