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(Huffington Post)   NSA reformers have their expectations set to "Obama Approval Level" for today's speech   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 11
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2014-01-16 09:22:57 AM
They are aiming high.
 
2014-01-16 09:39:09 AM
Still higher than "Bush approval level"
 
2014-01-16 11:05:26 AM
Is that worse or better than 'Congress Approval Level'?
 
2014-01-16 11:09:36 AM
I remember the Dubya Bush era, when approval ratings in the 30s seemed sky-high. Why are we acting as if 51% is somehow deep in the toilet?
 
2014-01-16 11:28:02 AM

Summercat: Is that worse or better than 'Congress Approval Level'?


That's honestly what I'm expecting from the speech. Smoke and mirrors and window dressing. Obama has been utterly horrid on these issues, I don't know why anyone's expecting him to change now. He's trying to make the controversy go away, he's not actually trying to fix the problem. I actually have more faith in Congress to address this one than I have in the President.
 
2014-01-16 11:44:43 AM

cptjeff: Summercat: Is that worse or better than 'Congress Approval Level'?

That's honestly what I'm expecting from the speech. Smoke and mirrors and window dressing. Obama has been utterly horrid on these issues, I don't know why anyone's expecting him to change now. He's trying to make the controversy go away, he's not actually trying to fix the problem. I actually have more faith in Congress to address this one than I have in the President.


The NSA probably has enough dirt on Obama to impeach him for real.
 
2014-01-16 02:51:37 PM

Seabon: Still higher than "Bush approval level"


ExcedrinHeadache: I remember the Dubya Bush era, when approval ratings in the 30s seemed sky-high. Why are we acting as if 51% is somehow deep in the toilet?


BUSH WAS WORSE!

/no shiat Sherlock
//do we really want to have to use him as a base point to show how awesome Obama is?
 
2014-01-16 09:00:58 PM

GanjSmokr: Seabon: Still higher than "Bush approval level"

ExcedrinHeadache: I remember the Dubya Bush era, when approval ratings in the 30s seemed sky-high. Why are we acting as if 51% is somehow deep in the toilet?

BUSH WAS WORSE!

/no shiat Sherlock
//do we really want to have to use him as a base point to show how awesome Obama is?


Nobody said Obama=awesome.  Just refuting the nakedly partisan attempt by subby to make Obama's approval ratings synonymous with "a low number"
 
2014-01-17 11:14:54 AM

Seabon: GanjSmokr: Seabon: Still higher than "Bush approval level"

ExcedrinHeadache: I remember the Dubya Bush era, when approval ratings in the 30s seemed sky-high. Why are we acting as if 51% is somehow deep in the toilet?

BUSH WAS WORSE!

/no shiat Sherlock
//do we really want to have to use him as a base point to show how awesome Obama is?

Nobody said Obama=awesome.  Just refuting the nakedly partisan attempt by subby to make Obama's approval ratings synonymous with "a low number"


Sorry, let me adjust my comment:

do we really want to have to use him as a base point to show how awesomenot bad Obama is?

Essentially, do we really want to set our bar for comparison at Bush level or should we want more than that from our president?
 
2014-01-17 04:06:49 PM
Obama's approval rating isn't too high and it isn't too low, and as such is probably an accurate estimation of his job as President, IMO.  Could we have a superior president?  Maybe, but given the system we'd have to get pretty lucky to have said system produce someone who would stand up to wall street, NSA, the Pentagon and the other areas where I find Obama lacking.
 
2014-01-17 04:21:20 PM

Seabon: Obama's approval rating isn't too high and it isn't too low, and as such is probably an accurate estimation of his job as President, IMO.  Could we have a superior president?  Maybe, but given the system we'd have to get pretty lucky to have said system produce someone who would stand up to wall street, NSA, the Pentagon and the other areas where I find Obama lacking.


That sounds much better than the "At least he's better than Bush" mantra we often hear.

I don't think people realize that using Bush as a comparison really isn't all that good for touting Obama.
 
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