fireclown: Is nobody other than me angry that taxpayer money can be used to buy weed? Im not an anti welfare type who wants to let folks starve or die of untreated illnesses, but I rankle at buying intoxicants for the jobless.
Uchiha_Cycliste: AngryDragon: Of course you can. There's a Democrat in the White House.Is this some racist, blacks and drugs thing? I don't get it.
Gulper Eel: Then where is there a community rich or middle-class that experiences regular incursions of violent (because they're poverty-stricken) criminals from the poor community down the road? How come Detroit's poor haven't invaded Grosse Pointe? Why do the poor of Brooklyn not go all pitchforks-and-torches after the nouveau riche invading their borough? Why doesn't Anacostia go on regular mugging sprees in Georgetown?You're the one who made the initial assertion, sou can provide the evidence - but what you're going to find is that violent criminals from poor neighborhoods commit their crimes against other poor people in those neighborhoods.
Gulper Eel: an eighth of our income in state and local taxes,
Gulper Eel: Nice emotional appeal.
Gulper Eel: Poverty's relationship to violent crime does not work that way
Gulper Eel: Second, what happens when it's no longer "a few bucks" paid but thousands, with damn little to show for it?
Callous: So we should just give them our shiat to keep them from stealing it?
jso2897: Well, the solution to that peoblem was supposed to be drug testing.
jso2897: The post, with the links, are in the thread, along with several responses to what you ahve said. I might post more if and when you take the time to read what I have already posted - but frankly, I am quickly wearying of your demands for attention.
gfid: jso2897: So we are going to impose some crappy puritan morality on people just because we have the power to do so?I don't see it so much as puritanical as I do reasonable. If I see someone who is hungry and I give them a few bucks to help them, do I really want them to spend it on weed?At the very least they should come back and share that joint with me, but that's not what you're arguing for. You're saying I should go without weed and give money to someone else so they can buy weed and not even share it with me.
GoldSpider: And I get it that there's no way to ensure that all of that money is spent only on "needs".
Danger Mouse: jso2897: Very few of the things that government must do to keep us whole as a civilization are glorious things. Moon shots are few and far between.Most of it is dirty, muddy, mundane shiat. Wars, cops, jails, epidemics, disasters, and the boring stuff, like schools and ag subsidies and welfare and potholes and all that shiat. It's all work, a lot of it is unpleasant - and it never ends. And it all costs money.And like it or not - it's all highly morally and ethically ambiguous.Unless you plan to move to a different dimension - deal with it.Yup. Just toss your hands up in the air and shrug. Oh well. Just smile as you're told they'll need to increase taxes to support more social welfare programs. See abuse of the system? Smile to yourself,knowing it's small cost compared to helping others. what ever system is currently in place must be the best we can do, after all trying to fix it would jsut cost too much.After all, whatever the current system is, then is must be the best. And it would cost to much to improve upon it, right?
NutWrench: The purpose of EBT cards is to buy food. You shouldn't be able to draw cash on them no matter where the ATM is located.
Some Coke Drinking Guy: something like 20 percent
fusillade762: Only certain people can get cash with them (disabled and the elderly, iirc) and it's a separate balance from the food benefits.
abhorrent1: Because people on public assistance are known to be very responsible with their money.
markfara: How is using an EBT card to get money any different than selling food stamps? Apart from the efficiency factor, I mean.There's no evidence people on public benefits are using pot-shop ATMs.True. Poor people hate pot in much the same way as they hate crack and alcohol.
scottydoesntknow: Wait...you can use EBT cards at ATMs? What's to stop people from going to an ATM at the 7-Eleven across the street and buying it then? Or gambling? Or buying a gun?
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