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(Some Guy)   How 100% pure capitalism works. No regulations. No nanny state   (extragoodshit.phlap.net) divider line 63
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2014-01-15 04:38:00 PM  
A Harvard MBA for the streets.
 
2014-01-15 04:38:03 PM  
Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?
 
2014-01-15 04:51:44 PM  
There seems to be a lot of government interference in the market for that to be considered pure capitalism.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-15 04:52:35 PM  
That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.
 
2014-01-15 04:58:36 PM  

LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?


Learn to firewall, noob.
 
2014-01-15 05:02:53 PM  
 
2014-01-15 05:22:12 PM  
Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
 
2014-01-15 05:31:20 PM  

LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?


Why are you reading drug advice articles at work? I'm calling HR...
 
2014-01-15 05:42:49 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?

Why are you reading drug advice articles at work? I'm calling HR...


Let them find their own damned drug advice
 
2014-01-15 05:48:29 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?

Why are you reading drug advice articles at work? I'm calling HR...

Let them find their own damned drug advice


Oh, they do, they do.
 
2014-01-15 05:55:00 PM  

ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.


No it isn't!
 
2014-01-15 05:57:24 PM  

ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.


Stoner capitalism?
 
2014-01-15 06:23:22 PM  

doglover: LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?

Learn to firewall, noob.


Learn how to not endanger your 6-figure income by doing stupid stunts at work, idiot...
 
wee
2014-01-15 06:37:06 PM  

whither_apophis: No it isn't!


Yes it is!

(Are we arguing now?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y)
 
2014-01-15 06:43:38 PM  

ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.


That sounds an awful lot like regulation to me.
 
2014-01-15 06:55:25 PM  

wee: whither_apophis: No it isn't!

Yes it is!

(Are we arguing now?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y)


No we're not.

/you didn't pay.
 
2014-01-15 06:59:04 PM  
Do not be an addict.

blogs.citypages.com
 
2014-01-15 07:30:57 PM  

LordZorch: doglover: LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?

Learn to firewall, noob.

Learn how to not endanger your 6-figure income by doing stupid stunts at work, idiot...


On Fark at work? Six figure? Yet, it's the McDonald's worker with food stamps that is a leech and should get a second job.

What a country we have!
 
2014-01-15 08:06:06 PM  

LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?


I love you, SonicWall!

/our IT guy got me hired. He's not gonna rat me out xD

2wolves:
http://theweek.com/article/index/254843/the-secret-logic-of-drug-dea ls

Thanks, 2wolves. Now I can read the herfadurfa.
 
2014-01-15 08:10:42 PM  

Irving Maimway: Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.


Can I still jump my bike over downed power lines?

/That's the only one I remember.
 
2014-01-15 08:14:39 PM  
Actually, that's all very sound advice.

Businessmen gonna businessate.
 
2014-01-15 08:16:29 PM  
Sounds like thr Chicago Imperrium.
 
2014-01-15 08:16:30 PM  
media.moddb.com
he makes a fine salient point. yes, sir.
 
2014-01-15 08:19:39 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.

That sounds an awful lot like regulation to me.


Job killing regulation.  Why does government want to discourage hard working job creators like Lil' Homie?
 
2014-01-15 08:25:47 PM  

ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.


And yet Marijuana is the #1 cash crop in the US. I wonder what would happen if producers and consumers had enforceable rights to the property.
 
2014-01-15 08:38:50 PM  
Honestly if you're buying from "Balla", "Juice", or "Lil Homie" are you expecting Adam Smith-esque economics?

And, if you're a "regular" doesn't that make you an "addict"? Kinda scratching my head as to why those are different.
 
2014-01-15 08:39:47 PM  

ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.


What contracts are made in the process f buying something from a retail outlet?
 
2014-01-15 08:46:53 PM  

Ambivalence: ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.

What contracts are made in the process f buying something from a retail outlet?


The receipt?
Can return item?
 
2014-01-15 08:51:45 PM  
Why no, no it doesn't.
 
2014-01-15 09:01:41 PM  

iamskibibitz: Honestly if you're buying from "Balla", "Juice", or "Lil Homie" are you expecting Adam Smith-esque economics?

And, if you're a "regular" doesn't that make you an "addict"? Kinda scratching my head as to why those are different.


Same line that separates an alcoholic from someone who regularly buys alcoholic beverages at a bar / liquor store.

END COMMUNICATION
 
2014-01-15 09:08:54 PM  

doglover: LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?

Learn to firewall, noob.


At work?  What could possibly go wrong?
 
2014-01-15 09:31:11 PM  

djkutch: LordZorch: doglover: LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?

Learn to firewall, noob.

Learn how to not endanger your 6-figure income by doing stupid stunts at work, idiot...

On Fark at work? Six figure? Yet, it's the McDonald's worker with food stamps that is a leech and should get a second job.

What a country we have!


See, this is where I get say "project much?" back at you for obviously being a loser that serves people like me in the drive-thru.
 
2014-01-15 09:33:13 PM  

Summercat: Thanks, 2wolves. Now I can read the herfadurfa.


You're welcome.
 
2014-01-15 09:39:01 PM  

djkutch: Ambivalence: ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.

What contracts are made in the process f buying something from a retail outlet?

The receipt?
Can return item?


And who's going to make them take the item back? A receipt in only proof of purchase, it doesn't entitle anyone to anything afterwards.
 
2014-01-15 09:56:44 PM  

LordZorch: djkutch: LordZorch: doglover: LordZorch: Website blocked at work.  Wanna try again?

Learn to firewall, noob.

Learn how to not endanger your 6-figure income by doing stupid stunts at work, idiot...

On Fark at work? Six figure? Yet, it's the McDonald's worker with food stamps that is a leech and should get a second job.

What a country we have!

See, this is where I get say "project much?" back at you for obviously being a loser that serves people like me in the drive-thru.


Want to exchange proof of employment/business ownership through the admins with tax returns?
 
2014-01-15 10:14:50 PM  

untaken_name: ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.

And yet Marijuana is the #1 cash crop in the US. I wonder what would happen if producers and consumers had enforceable rights to the property.


I'm sure you know this, but what would happen is the that the states and the feds would see the biggest increase in tax revenue that this country has ever seen.

How much would you pay for a pack of marijuana cigarettes? $50? That would be an *amazing* deal compared to what pot costs on the black market. And how much of that would be taxes? Oh, about $48 dollars, probably.

I honestly can't believe the big agricultural states aren't legalizing it already. I live in Iowa, and marijuana just grows all on it's own all over the place. I can't imagine the ridiculously huge crops the farmers could generate if they were making money off it.
 
2014-01-15 10:19:29 PM  

Ambivalence: What contracts are made in the process f buying something from a retail outlet?


In the US? The implicit warranty of merchantability as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code, unless otherwise disclaimed (and it may not be fully disclaimed in all states)?
 
2014-01-15 10:23:54 PM  

Ambivalence: djkutch: Ambivalence: ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.

What contracts are made in the process f buying something from a retail outlet?

The receipt?
Can return item?

And who's going to make them take the item back? A receipt in only proof of purchase, it doesn't entitle anyone to anything afterwards.


You got me. Sorry you were ripped off in your purchase. Vote Republican.
 
2014-01-15 10:57:26 PM  

realmolo: untaken_name: ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.

And yet Marijuana is the #1 cash crop in the US. I wonder what would happen if producers and consumers had enforceable rights to the property.

I'm sure you know this, but what would happen is the that the states and the feds would see the biggest increase in tax revenue that this country has ever seen.

How much would you pay for a pack of marijuana cigarettes? $50? That would be an *amazing* deal compared to what pot costs on the black market. And how much of that would be taxes? Oh, about $48 dollars, probably.

I honestly can't believe the big agricultural states aren't legalizing it already. I live in Iowa, and marijuana just grows all on it's own all over the place. I can't imagine the ridiculously huge crops the farmers could generate if they were making money off it.


Marijuana cigarettes? Almost nobody smokes joints anymore. It's too expensive to let half your weed go up in smoke.
 
2014-01-15 11:11:42 PM  
Meh... Is this advise from 70's? I just go to my dispensary. Investing in marijuana and hemp stock like MJNA. It's a new era of publicly traded stock. Capitalism rocks.
 
2014-01-15 11:30:58 PM  

spaten: Meh... Is this advise from 70's? I just go to my dispensary. Investing in marijuana and hemp stock like MJNA. It's a new era of publicly traded stock. Capitalism rocks.


That's nice, but if your drug of choice were to be LSD, X, meth, coke, heroin, or ketamine, the dispensary doesn't have that shiat.
 
2014-01-15 11:31:47 PM  
 
2014-01-15 11:38:11 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: spaten: Meh... Is this advise from 70's? I just go to my dispensary. Investing in marijuana and hemp stock like MJNA. It's a new era of publicly traded stock. Capitalism rocks.

That's nice, but if your drug of choice were to be LSD, X, meth, coke, heroin, or ketamine, the dispensary doesn't have that shiat.


Maybe we can get the government out of the drug business. It was before 1914:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Narcotics_Tax_Act
 
2014-01-15 11:49:34 PM  

Hagbardr: Marijuana cigarettes? Almost nobody smokes joints anymore. It's too expensive to let half your weed go up in smoke.


ROFL
REALLY????

1) expensive? LOL
2) no really if you are worried about wasting ...

/shakes head on wanders off
 
2014-01-16 12:06:38 AM  
I read the headline as 'Cannibalism'. Meh; six of one, half dozen of another ...
 
2014-01-16 12:52:41 AM  
Reading the headline I thought this was going to be another article about Colorado. Wasn't too far off.
 
2014-01-16 01:56:28 AM  

realmolo: untaken_name: ZAZ: That is not capitalism. Capitalism depends on enforceable rights to own property and make contracts. That is black market, anarchy, or something along those lines.

And yet Marijuana is the #1 cash crop in the US. I wonder what would happen if producers and consumers had enforceable rights to the property.

I'm sure you know this, but what would happen is the that the states and the feds would see the biggest increase in tax revenue that this country has ever seen.

How much would you pay for a pack of marijuana cigarettes? $50? That would be an *amazing* deal compared to what pot costs on the black market. And how much of that would be taxes? Oh, about $48 dollars, probably.

I honestly can't believe the big agricultural states aren't legalizing it already. I live in Iowa, and marijuana just grows all on it's own all over the place. I can't imagine the ridiculously huge crops the farmers could generate if they were making money off it.


Meh, it's all about the seeds. High latitude, Sativas (hemp) - plenty of rope stock.  In 1989 the MO HWP & DEA & local dawgs & face timing politicos all met up at the Franklin Island Wildlife Area, along the Missouri River.  They `eradicated' 500,000 `marijuanas' (hemp)  `Biggest stand ever destroyed!' (`now, when do we get those Federal Dollars you all promised to States so challenged by such threats?').  Not `cop math' on that `stand', by the way (probably closer to 750k - lot of `experimental horticulture on that island during previous decade... - so other estimates were done - MO DNR raised hell because all that hemp seed fed the birds that they sold hunting tags for).

I'd expect high quality, equatorial, Sativa seeds that are ROUND UP II Ready are accumulating somewhere...

Capitalism?  Tax payers (since `72) having been paying to provide just enough of an incentive to keep the prices inflated (all law enforcement: `1972 - 10% of market suppressed/ 2013 - 10% of market suppressed).  So, all law enforcement/imprisonment/crimes associated with `business'/whittling away of civil liberties - the whole war on some drugs has been nothing but a price support subsidy program `with unintended consequences' (get the unlucky & stupid) that subsidizes growers/manufacturers/street dealers/cartels/and the banks that have laundered ~ one trillion in untaxed profits just between 1995 - 2008.

If marijuana were legalized, federally (and any citizen could grow for personal consumption), the tax receipts would rise over the short term, but every Martha StewartWannabee with menstrual issues would be busy trading and breeding from high quality stock seeds and then blogging to all her cultivating friends. They'll just plant the hemp next to the road (lazy rip-offs deserve headaches) and baby the good stuff out back with the cleomes & clematis.  It's a farking weed (an attractive, annual, reseeding ornamental $35.00 for ten Santa Marta/Thai F1 seeds...)
 
2014-01-16 01:59:34 AM  
Yes, it's unregulated capitalism, but it's not the sort of unregulated capitalism that we would want applied to any other industries. The drug market is notoriously volatile, and the rate of deception, injury and fatalities is too high to be acceptable in any other field.

If the standards of the drug trade were applied to things like construction, buildings would frequently collapse from use of inferior building materials and each one would cause a few deaths in its construction. If applied to food, poisoning and deaths would not be uncommon. If applied to electronics, devices would break on the way home from the store and there's no warranty or return policy. If applied to automotives.... I don't even want to think about how many accidents there'd be on the road if that was the case

Seriously, the drug industry is not the model we want to follow. 4 out of 5 dealers are upstanding fellows who will probably get you what you want (and this statistic probably applies to any system). The regulations and controls we have in place are to protect you from that 1 other guy.
 
2014-01-16 02:09:43 AM  
9. Be attractive.
10. Don't be unattractive.
 
2014-01-16 02:57:45 AM  

doglover: Learn to firewall, noob.


I think that means something different than what you think it means.  He should be learning to proxy, not firewall.  Of course at my work I'm hamstrung a bit:
1.  Not allowed to install software
2.  Internet usage IS monitored; they just don't normally give a shiat
3.  Firing is the start of what they can do to me.

iamskibibitz: And, if you're a "regular" doesn't that make you an "addict"? Kinda scratching my head as to why those are different.


Well, you have the nannies' 'Any use is abuse' crowd who'll say a regular is an addict, but I have a number of stages.  Basically the difference between a regular user and an addicted user is the negative consequences to stopping.  If a person can quit without negative effects, they're just a regular user.  If they're going to experience significant negative effects(even if temporary while they undergo withdrawal), then they're addicted.  They're abusively addicted when the negative consequences of using are outweighing any positives enough to negatively affect their life.

Lawnchair: In the US? The implicit warranty of merchantability as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code, unless otherwise disclaimed (and it may not be fully disclaimed in all states)?


Bingo.  I might be of a libertarian bent, but even I recognize the value of a 'standard contract' that doesn't require a conference between a couple lawyers every time you hit up the grocery store for a gallon of milk.

Crazy Lee: If marijuana were legalized, federally (and any citizen could grow for personal consumption), the tax receipts would rise over the short term, but every Martha StewartWannabee with menstrual issues would be busy trading and breeding from high quality stock seeds and then blogging to all her cultivating friends. They'll just plant the hemp next to the road (lazy rip-offs deserve headaches) and baby the good stuff out back with the cleomes & clematis. It's a farking weed (an attractive, annual, reseeding ornamental $35.00 for ten Santa Marta/Thai F1 seeds...)


You're overestimating the growing ability and underestimating the lazyness of a substantial fraction of the USA.  With Colorado and Washington joining California we'll have to see, but thus far dispensories seem to be doing a very brisk business.  As is people seem almost eager to simply *buy* stuff that's already prepared for them.
 
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