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2014-01-15 04:49:37 PM  
This federal judge sponsored by Monsanto.
 
2014-01-15 05:10:28 PM  
So, if their seeds are blown onto your property and germinate, they can sue you for not paying for them?

Am I reading that right?
 
2014-01-15 05:10:32 PM  
Next they will come for the space between.
 
2014-01-15 05:12:39 PM  
Many thanks to Greenpeace for paying for the laws that made both this lawsuit and Monsanto's dominant market position possible.
 
2014-01-15 05:12:40 PM  
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2014-01-15 05:13:23 PM  

Blues_X: So, if their seeds are blown onto your property and germinate, they can sue you for not paying for them?

Am I reading that right?


That's pretty much it...as far as I read, too.

But surely that cannot be right.  We're missing something, right?  It's only if they try to knowingly use them or knowingly sell them, right?  I think that's lame, too, but at least it's more logical.
 
2014-01-15 05:14:01 PM  

Blues_X: So, if their seeds are blown onto your property and germinate, they can sue you for not paying for them?

Am I reading that right?


Yes.

Monsanto: The First Ones Up Against the Wall When the Revolution Comes
 
2014-01-15 05:14:01 PM  
Well, we can see why the court favored Monsanto.  They totes promised not to sue.  "wink wink"
 
2014-01-15 05:14:51 PM  
It is not something which I have the familiarity but sometimes I do the wearing of the boy briefs because they have the comfort so perhaps for the boy this is also the thing which provides to he the comfort. Was this the boyshorts or the thong of the underwear? I am not someone who has the assureness of this but would wish for learning of so.
 
2014-01-15 05:15:43 PM  

Blues_X: So, if their seeds are blown onto your property and germinate, they can sue you for not paying for them?

Am I reading that right?


Yes.

So the only solution is to buy up houses next to their board of directors' homes, plant some patented grass and start suing them if even a blade of grass from your crop starts growing on their property
 
2014-01-15 05:15:56 PM  

Blues_X: So, if their seeds are blown onto your property and germinate, they can sue you for not paying for them?

Am I reading that right?


Yes. And you can't sue them for polluting your gene pool without wasting all of your money in court, so that you have to go bankrupt.

Mexico has been trying for years to keep one of the last active gene pool resources for unmodified corn free of Monsanto.
 
2014-01-15 05:16:25 PM  
Monsanto reps in rural areas should start having 'accidents".
 
2014-01-15 05:16:25 PM  
This lawsuit brought to you by the makers of Agent Orange - destroying food for 3 generations.
 
2014-01-15 05:16:47 PM  
But can they inherit it?

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d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-15 05:17:15 PM  

meow said the dog: It is not something which I have the familiarity but sometimes I do the wearing of the boy briefs because they have the comfort so perhaps for the boy this is also the thing which provides to he the comfort. Was this the boyshorts or the thong of the underwear? I am not someone who has the assureness of this but would wish for learning of so.


www.lifeonpaws.co.uk
 
2014-01-15 05:18:20 PM  
Leela and the Gene Stalk had so much potential as an episode.

And then they sold out the ending. :(
 
2014-01-15 05:18:24 PM  
Monsanto has been doing this for ages.. This isn't new..
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-15 05:18:27 PM  

highendmighty: This lawsuit brought to you by the makers of Agent Orange - destroying food for 3 generations.


Also makers of PCPs, which can be found in just about every living thing on the planet now.
 
2014-01-15 05:18:34 PM  
So, if Monsanto renegs, and starts suing people whose crops have been inadvertently contaminated, will this ruling be voided?
Bet not.
 
2014-01-15 05:18:38 PM  
The judge is ruling that the farmers cannot sue to prevent Monsanto from suing. The farmers were preemptively suing even though Monsanto has stated that it has not sued anyone nor any interest in suing.

As much as I don't like Monsanto, the ruling makes complete sense to me.
 
2014-01-15 05:19:17 PM  

highendmighty: This lawsuit brought to you by the makers of Agent Orange - destroying food for 3 generations.


Seriously? I need links, to spread on the facebooks.
 
2014-01-15 05:20:07 PM  
Dear Supreme court:

Every time you rule in favor of a corporate concern over common sense, you undermine the very fabric of american justice. There is no upside, there is no sentence containing a saving grace here. You've just done an evil deed in the name of money - impure and simple.
 
2014-01-15 05:20:53 PM  
 
2014-01-15 05:20:55 PM  
Monsanto is one of the most evil companies on the planet.

THIS. Farkin' food fascism.
 
2014-01-15 05:21:24 PM  
Oh for the love of . . .

1) the Supreme Court denied to hear the case.  This isnt a ruling, they generally deny to hear +99% of cases.

2) this was a suit by organic farmers suing Monsanto to preclude them from suing farmers in the future for inadvertant infringement (i.e. wind based distribution) .

3) As Monsanto hasn't brought such a suit, the organic farmers had no standing to sue.  There was no controversy (farmers were asking the court to prevent Monsanto from doing something Monsanto wasn't doing).

4) There is really no new or interesting law here, so of course the SCOTUS passed.

I may hate Monsanto too, but Jesus, this is a serious non-story here
 
2014-01-15 05:22:54 PM  

Shadi: The judge is ruling that the farmers cannot sue to prevent Monsanto from suing. The farmers were preemptively suing even though Monsanto has stated that it has not sued anyone nor any interest in suing.

As much as I don't like Monsanto, the ruling makes complete sense to me.


You're' right; thought-crimes shouldn't count.
But that's not why they should be suing.
They should be suing Monsanto for a product that causes environmental pollution, interfering with their productivity.
And just because they haven't sued these particular farmers yet, their behavioral trend shows that they would have, if the farmers hadn't prevented it.
 
2014-01-15 05:23:05 PM  
While Monsanto may be a bunch of dicks, the appeals court wasn't going to refuse to give them standing to sue farmers after the Supreme Court gave them a win against a farmer a month earlier.
 
2014-01-15 05:23:56 PM  
A unanimous win at the Supreme Court, I should add.
 
2014-01-15 05:24:11 PM  

Teiritzamna: Oh for the love of . . .

1) the Supreme Court denied to hear the case.  This isnt a ruling, they generally deny to hear +99% of cases.

2) this was a suit by organic farmers suing Monsanto to preclude them from suing farmers in the future for inadvertant infringement (i.e. wind based distribution) .

3) As Monsanto hasn't brought such a suit, the organic farmers had no standing to sue.  There was no controversy (farmers were asking the court to prevent Monsanto from doing something Monsanto wasn't doing).

4) There is really no new or interesting law here, so of course the SCOTUS passed.

I may hate Monsanto too, but Jesus, this is a serious non-story here


True. I'd still like to burn Monsanto to the ground. Just sayin'.
 
2014-01-15 05:24:21 PM  
Monsanto is a person, a person has a pinky, the Monsanto person pinky sweared that they would not sue, but a person also can cross their fingers and hold them behind their back which allows said person to lie with impunity. So I don't know which people to trust here...
 
2014-01-15 05:24:27 PM  

SquiggsIN: Blues_X: So, if their seeds are blown onto your property and germinate, they can sue you for not paying for them?

Am I reading that right?

Again DNRTA but, i've followed this issue and YES.  If FarmerX doesn't buy from them and FarmerY buys from them and as FarmerY's harvest truck passes FarmerX's field and one seed contaminates FarmerX's field it's now FarmerX's fault he's growing their patented product and must either start paying them or end up going bankrupt fighting them in court.


And you would be 100% wrong on the law.
 
2014-01-15 05:24:44 PM  
Such a farce - WHY even claim there is 'democracy' any more.....(or a 'republic' as you Yanks like to say)

Are they next going to patent the load I put in my sock tonight??

Hope I don't spill any since that then could be used to make another me through cross contamination - and TRUST ME you do NOT want another ME!
 
2014-01-15 05:25:09 PM  

SquiggsIN: Somaticasual: Dear Supreme court:

Every time you rule in favor of a corporate concern over common sense, you undermine the very fabric of american justice. There is no upside, there is no sentence containing a saving grace here. You've just done an evil deed in the name of money - impure and simple.

But, CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE!   Think of the corporations!  I'm 100% convinced at this point that everything from the DEA to the EPA is up for sale for the right price.


I have to ask, do you even understand what corporate personhood even means?
 
2014-01-15 05:25:19 PM  
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   There are ways to handle this.
 
2014-01-15 05:25:29 PM  

The Life Of Brian: Such a farce - WHY even claim there is 'democracy' any more.....(or a 'republic' as you Yanks like to say)

Are they next going to patent the load I put in my sock tonight??

Hope I don't spill any since that then could be used to make another me through cross contamination - and TRUST ME you do NOT want another ME!


No need. Illegal dumping of biological waste is already a crime.
 
2014-01-15 05:25:44 PM  

meow said the dog: It is not something which I have the familiarity but sometimes I do the wearing of the boy briefs because they have the comfort so perhaps for the boy this is also the thing which provides to he the comfort. Was this the boyshorts or the thong of the underwear? I am not someone who has the assureness of this but would wish for learning of so.


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2014-01-15 05:25:50 PM  
I don't see any inherent conflict in allowing companies a financial incentive to control the food supply. Nope, no problems there.
 
2014-01-15 05:26:22 PM  
This is f*cking stupid.
 
2014-01-15 05:26:24 PM  
Here's to hoping they fight that BS decision.

If anything, farmers should be able to sue Monsanto for spreading their crap GMO seeds.
 
2014-01-15 05:26:29 PM  
You'll eat it and you'll like it!

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2014-01-15 05:26:39 PM  
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I have come to assume my dominant position in this farm community due to the high quality and timely delivery of my seed. Come to Schmidt Feed & Farm Supply, conveniently located in Kendallville just over the bridge, and you will leave smiling and satisfied in every way, if not utterly amazed at the performance. You must have my seed!

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Grab the thick base of the stalk in your hand and feel that it is alive and growing larger by the minute. Sweat will shine on your face as you ride my massive tractor around the grounds of my expansive farm.
I will smile down at you as you kneel and gently run your hands through the moist patch of dense growth at my most precious, secret spot-the plot of land where I personally test each and every variety of seed corn that I sell.

Ask me for my seed, and the day you have longed for, the day you have dreamed about, will soon arrive: When the corn is large and ripe for the taking, you can place your lips around the heavy cob, savoring the texture, the smell and, finally, the taste as you bite gently and your mouth is filled with sweet juice.
 
2014-01-15 05:27:02 PM  
tlars699:
And just because they haven't sued these particular farmers yet, their behavioral trend shows that they would have, if the farmers hadn't prevented it.

No, not even remotely close.  The farmers didn't prevent anything.
 
2014-01-15 05:27:33 PM  

Blues_X: So, if their seeds are blown onto your property and germinate, they can sue you for not paying for them?

Am I reading that right?


yes
 
2014-01-15 05:27:53 PM  

walktoanarcade: Here's to hoping they fight that BS decision.


By appealing to what court?
 
2014-01-15 05:27:56 PM  

SquiggsIN: DNRTA

I've kept up with most stories associated with agribusiness for a long time.

Monsanto is one of the most evil companies on the planet.

I don't know what has to happen to get more publicity on what is going on with our food system.  We have fewer and fewer companies controlling more and more of our supply and their goals generally have profit above safety or fairness.  Do we wait until every plant on the planet is patented?  I think Monsanto would love to spread their GMOs to the point they can sue you for the crabgrass in your yards.


Between the corporations farking us, the bankers robbing us, the police beating us, and the government growing increasingly corrupted about it all, it's hard to keep any one story going for any length of time.

anyone get the feeling it's time to start burning everything down?
 
2014-01-15 05:27:58 PM  

Teiritzamna: Oh for the love of . . .

1) the Supreme Court denied to hear the case.  This isnt a ruling, they generally deny to hear +99% of cases.

2) this was a suit by organic farmers suing Monsanto to preclude them from suing farmers in the future for inadvertant infringement (i.e. wind based distribution) .

3) As Monsanto hasn't brought such a suit, the organic farmers had no standing to sue.  There was no controversy (farmers were asking the court to prevent Monsanto from doing something Monsanto wasn't doing).

4) There is really no new or interesting law here, so of course the SCOTUS passed.

I may hate Monsanto too, but Jesus, this is a serious non-story here


Then the organic farmers' lawyers are stupid, because polluting the environment, inhibiting your productivity, is a very real thing that you can sue over.
Organic Non-GMO farmers' corn would be polluted by Monsanto DNA, thus ensuring that the farmers can only sell their inspected goods as inferior product at lower prices- ie GMO corn.
 
2014-01-15 05:28:15 PM  

tlars699: highendmighty: This lawsuit brought to you by the makers of Agent Orange - destroying food for 3 generations.

Seriously? I need links, to spread on the facebooks.


wiki Monsanto - you get this: The company also formerly manufactured controversial products such as the insecticide DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange, and recombinant bovine somatotropin (a.k.a. bovine growth hormone).
Their first ever product was saccharin.   PRAISE THE ARTIFICE!
On the bright side, they did develop LED's...
 
2014-01-15 05:28:51 PM  

MechaPyx: True. I'd still like to burn Monsanto to the ground. Just sayin'.


Oh sure.  I greatly dislike the company and its policies, (although for reasons somewhat different to what is usually discussed on Fark) but let's at least get mad at things that actually happened.

/sometimes just get tired of "Fark yells at cloud"
 
2014-01-15 05:28:57 PM  
Wasn't it Monsanto that patented a way of raising pigs and then sued people for raising pigs like they do?

Maybe I'm imagining that.
 
2014-01-15 05:28:59 PM  

Theaetetus: walktoanarcade: Here's to hoping they fight that BS decision.

By appealing to what court?


I don't recall mentioning any court.
 
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