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(Science Daily)   McDonald's isn't the reason why your kid is fat. You are   ( divider line
    More: Obvious, Mcdonald, clinical nutrition, childhood obesity, Barry Popkin, PhD, distinguished professor, fat  
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2014-01-15 07:06:04 PM  

DarkPascual: Overweight most of my life, aware that it was because I'm lazy and I like to eat...

Every other fat person is aware of this fact too. I don't know why people are still telling fat people how to cease being fat as if it's some sort of arcane knowledge or something.
2014-01-15 07:36:23 PM  

Ant: DarkPascual: Overweight most of my life, aware that it was because I'm lazy and I like to eat...

Every other fat person is aware of this fact too. I don't know why people are still telling fat people how to cease being fat as if it's some sort of arcane knowledge or something.

Well, when you start only eating 2 meals a day, and biking 30 miles a week, so you're hungry and tired and sore, and only drop 20 pounds (of 300) and then plateau hard before gaining some weight back, you just go "FARK THIS".  And then you stop, but now your metabolism is farked up, so the habits that got you to 300 now get you to 320 because your metabolism is recovering.  Repeat, repeat, repeat.

It's one thing to say "Move," it's another thing to say "Move enough to lose 120 pounds (40%) so that you can be normal like the doctor wants you to be and stay there forever."  You could stick me in a concentration camp for a year, and I might lose 120 pounds.  Anything short of that is just futile.

Sure, you CAN lose weight, but if you've been fat for a long time (3 years here), your body wants to be fat, so you're losing maybe 10 pounds a year after the initial 20 by being better than the skinny people.  And you're still fat (I was 240 and then I was 320, and I was still wearing the same pant size and still had the same rolls of fat of the same size in the same places).

/Mind you, given the shiat that I was pulling to get to 320, I was correctly 320, but still.
//Seriously, you want to make a billion dollars?  Figure out how to rip off 120 pounds and then give me your metabolism.  Because that would be some awesome shiat.
///Mac got fat (40 pounds, IIRC) by eating 5000 calories a day to maintain it, and then lost it all in 2 months by eating normally.  No diet, just "Oh yeah, I'm eating the same stuff as you".  WTF?  How do you do that?
2014-01-15 07:38:26 PM  

Ant: DarkPascual: Overweight most of my life, aware that it was because I'm lazy and I like to eat...

Every other fat person is aware of this fact too. I don't know why people are still telling fat people how to cease being fat as if it's some sort of arcane knowledge or something.

Because of this nonsense: Health at Every Size
2014-01-15 07:52:17 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: This is one of the least surprising stories ever.

But I'm sure many parents will act shocked. Or insulted.

"Science is fat-shaming my child!  The outrage!"
2014-01-15 08:40:19 PM  
I eat fast food on a regular basis since my job is usually 14-16 hours per day. I must be wired differently than the people who get fat off of the fast food or they eat twice as much per sitting than I do because I have been the same size since high school.(155 lbs) I really don't understand the blame game with fast food. If you're fat, eat less of it and start walking around your neighborhood everyday. *Shrugs*
2014-01-15 10:35:16 PM  
Wait... you mean fat lazy parents who don't cook raise fat lazy kids?
2014-01-15 11:35:31 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: MyRandomName: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

Frozen veggies are not expensive. There is a middle ground from picked that day vegetable to oh well McDonald's again.

And recently, frozen veggies have been shown to retain their nutrition very well.

If you mean recently as in the 1960s, then yes.
2014-01-16 02:47:06 AM  
We get burgers for the kids a lot, especially since my youngest is autistic and eats a very small list of foods. They are both slender and fit. But we don't buy fries and soda, or the two of them split a small fry order. And we usually take the burgers home and serve them with veggies and fruit for dessert, water to drink. And they take swim classes, play soccer and we all go for jogs/walks as a family. It's almost like obesity is a complex, comprehensive problem and you can eat fast food if you aren't stupid about it.
2014-01-16 02:55:42 AM  
2014-01-16 04:34:29 AM  

Ant: meat0918: There is a line between Little Johnny out playing in his front yard or at a friend's house and Little Johnny is playing outside in torn clothes, unkempt hair, and doesn't look like he's been fed very well for weeks and the neighbors know something bad is going on, this is the last straw, I'm calling CPS.

When I was an 8-year-old kid, I'd roam the entire city (Boise, ID) with my friends. If a parent let their kid do that nowadays, you're gonna be accused of being the worst parent on Earth.

What did you do for the other 23 hours and 55 minutes of the day?
2014-01-16 04:39:46 AM  

SideshowRaheem: Dr Dreidel: sigdiamond2000: That's true for men's clothes too. As far as T-shirts go, small now is what large was back in the 80s.

Which is why I know I'm an 18.5" collar, a 35/36" sleeve length (for dress shirts), 38" waist and 34" inseam (suit pants/slacks are slightly different).

They haven't changed the length of an inch in a few hundred years.

// everything should be sized by inches
// "that dress? it's a size 36-22-36." BAM! No guesswork.

The size of an inch hasn't changed, but GAP pants that are labelled 32" waist aren't actually 32" around, they're larger. Which made it a bit of a shock when I went in to try on a suit, confidently named my measurements, then became befuddled when the pants wouldn't even button.

Also interesting when you pull a pair of pants from your closet that's 10 years old, marked the same size as the pair you bought last week, but they aren't even close to the same size.

Vanity sizing, already available at a men's clothier near you.

Men's clothing stays in style for years. If I were a man and satisfied with my weight, I'd opt for bespoke clothes. Made to fit, and much better quality. It's a larger initial investment but you'll have the stuff for years.
2014-01-16 06:45:35 AM  

Beerguy: Thunderpipes: Food is not the issue. We ate a whole lot worse in the 70s. But we were outside all day, running, playing, all day, everyday we could.

Simple lack of movement.

There is truth here.

In my group of friends, none of us were fat as kids...we ate McDonalds, pizza, Pup N' Taco, etc. and never got fat.

We were always outside playing too, either baseball (chipped tooth), football (concussion), riding our bikes (took off two of the nails on my left hand by side swiping a cinder block wall), climbing trees (numerous falls, broken wrist).

Good times.


Of course, it comes from the same place as letting your kids eat shiat for food all the time.  The inability to say "No." to their precious snowflake and have it mean something.

Fat can still be a genetic thing or a result of eating habits(when over how much) or other biological reasons that make shedding fat/keeping trim hard work.  I knew some kids that were fat back in the day, but they still did all the same things and ate the same foods.  Once your body decides to start storing every bit of fat, it can take a LOT of hard work to shift the cycle(ie much more work than any skinny person has ever done). But the numbers/ratios were far lower.

/emphasis, "can" it's a much over-used excuse today
//Strictly speaking children here, fat adults are a different story altogether
2014-01-16 02:04:37 PM  
Where were all you people saying "duh--maybe the parents should be more responsible" over the last decade, in which we saw the rise of the McDonald's hate and that stupid "Supersize Me" movie?

Unhealthy adults do it to themselves, and unhealthy kids have no-one to blame but their parents.
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