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2014-01-15 03:20:15 PM
"However a new study found that fast-food consumption is simply a byproduct of a much bigger problem: poor all-day-long dietary habits that originate in children's homes."

but but but how was I supposed to know that fish-sticks and two-liters of cola weren't a healthy diet for a six year old?
 
2014-01-15 03:35:35 PM
FTFA:

The study's researchers found that children's consumption of fast food is only a small part of a much more pervasive dietary pattern that is fostered at an early age by children's parents and caregivers. The pattern includes few fruits and vegetables, relying instead on high amounts of processed food and sugar-sweetened beverages.

In other words, fast food.
 
2014-01-15 03:36:02 PM
bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-15 03:36:23 PM
Well farking duh.
 
2014-01-15 03:37:51 PM
Ric Romero at it again, eh?
 
2014-01-15 03:38:31 PM
This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.
 
2014-01-15 03:39:17 PM
Once upon a time, a few decades ago:
"Wow.. I'm fat and stupid.  Maybe I should learn something and get in shape."
Result?  People were more likely to take responsibility for themselves.

Today:
"Wow.. I'm fat and stupid.  Someone oughta pass a law!!  Outrage!  Who's fault is this!?!?!"
Result?  Outright bans on products (cola, trans fats), infringements on personal freedoms, and smear campaigns against companies and products that a vocal minority of people dislike.
 
2014-01-15 03:40:37 PM
Why not both?
 
2014-01-15 03:40:42 PM
Of course it's not McDonald's's fault.
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It's Burger King's fault.
 
2014-01-15 03:40:49 PM
 For several years, many have been quick to attribute rising fast-food consumption as the major factor causing rapid increases in childhood obesity. However a new study found that fast-food consumption is simply a byproduct of a much bigger problem: poor all-day-long dietary habits that originate in children's homes.


This study funded by McDonalds, Wendy's, Roy Rogers, Arbys, Burger King, etc...

Lets take the focus off of the bullshiat that we're feeding you and point fingers at you because our business is starting to suffer from all of this healthy talk about moderation and eliminating fast food from the diet.
 
2014-01-15 03:40:54 PM
When I was a kid I knew sugars were bad, but the whole carbs are bad thing wasn't a thing in our household. I'm still puzzled why the old food pyramid has a giant bread base (oh wait, no I'm not, lobbying).
 
2014-01-15 03:41:15 PM
Cue up that fat McDonald's kid!
 
2014-01-15 03:41:41 PM

sigdiamond2000: FTFA:

The study's researchers found that children's consumption of fast food is only a small part of a much more pervasive dietary pattern that is fostered at an early age by children's parents and caregivers. The pattern includes few fruits and vegetables, relying instead on high amounts of processed food and sugar-sweetened beverages.

In other words, fast food.


Yeah, the kids swiped the car keys and Mom's Debit card and drove down to Mickey Ds to gorge themselves on McNuggets and shakes. The parents had nothing to do with it, right?
 
2014-01-15 03:42:27 PM
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2014-01-15 03:42:31 PM

There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.


The idea of "food deserts" where there's no food and the idea that healthy food is expensive are mostly myths.  The people I see complaining the most about expensive healthy food snack on King Size candy bars at $1.79 each when they could have bought bananas at $0.50 per pound.
 
2014-01-15 03:43:48 PM
Well, the way they target kids through media is kinda farked up.  If they stopped doing that I'd stop solely blaming ff.  Like they're gonna do that anytime soon.
I recall as a kid being with a buddy, his mom and his much younger siblings, they did the whole song and dance and whined until mother took them thru the drive thru for their happy meals.  I literally watched both of them open the box, remove the toy them promptly drop box of food on the floor of the car.
 
2014-01-15 03:43:49 PM
Food is not the issue. We ate a whole lot worse in the 70s. But we were outside all day, running, playing, all day, everyday we could.

Simple lack of movement.
 
2014-01-15 03:45:03 PM
I blame farm subsidies.  If we'd cut those out, farmers would need to grow more food and sell it cheaper and that way the poors could afford to eat healthier.
 
2014-01-15 03:45:37 PM

cashman: Cue up that fat McDonald's kid!


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2014-01-15 03:46:07 PM
whencrazymeetsexhaustion.com


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sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk
 
2014-01-15 03:46:11 PM

There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.


Getting held up, rampant theft, etc. makes a low-margin business like grocery stores even more difficult to run.  There's a reason Detroit has few grocery stores (two opened to great fanfare recently).

On top of that, charge more than a suburban market?  Racist!  Detain a shoplifter?  Racist!  And on and on.  It's easier to close the store and do business elsewhere.
 
2014-01-15 03:46:28 PM
It's a defense mechanism. The fatter kids are less likely to catch the wandering eye of an on-the-prowl Jerry Sandusky, because what parent wants a t-shirt from the Outback Bowl?
 
2014-01-15 03:46:55 PM

Beerguy: sigdiamond2000: FTFA:

The study's researchers found that children's consumption of fast food is only a small part of a much more pervasive dietary pattern that is fostered at an early age by children's parents and caregivers. The pattern includes few fruits and vegetables, relying instead on high amounts of processed food and sugar-sweetened beverages.

In other words, fast food.

Yeah, the kids swiped the car keys and Mom's Debit card and drove down to Mickey Ds to gorge themselves on McNuggets and shakes. The parents had nothing to do with it, right?


No, I'm saying that fast food isn't just fast food restaurants.

I don't think there was anyone seriously arguing that fast food restaurants, on their own, are singularly to blame for childhood obesity.
 
2014-01-15 03:47:10 PM

brobdiggy: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

The idea of "food deserts" where there's no food and the idea that healthy food is expensive are mostly myths.  The people I see complaining the most about expensive healthy food snack on King Size candy bars at $1.79 each when they could have bought bananas at $0.50 per pound.


Soda is expensive as hell when compared to tap water.
 
2014-01-15 03:47:31 PM

There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.


Frozen veggies are not expensive. There is a middle ground from picked that day vegetable to oh well McDonald's again.
 
2014-01-15 03:47:33 PM
"It's you dad. I learned how to lay on a couch in a bath of coca-cola with a pile of cheetos as my pillow while eating ho hos.  It's all from you."
 
2014-01-15 03:49:20 PM

There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.


If the gov stops paying people to have kids, maybe this will less of a problem.
 
2014-01-15 03:50:01 PM

beerrun: cashman: Cue up that fat McDonald's kid!

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That boy is Jambik, and his story will make you sad and angry. Long, but worth the watch.
 
2014-01-15 03:50:28 PM

namegoeshere: brobdiggy: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

The idea of "food deserts" where there's no food and the idea that healthy food is expensive are mostly myths.  The people I see complaining the most about expensive healthy food snack on King Size candy bars at $1.79 each when they could have bought bananas at $0.50 per pound.

Soda is expensive as hell when compared to tap water.


Wasn't there a study on SNAP last year showing 40% of the money went to sugary drinks. Why is that even allowed.
 
2014-01-15 03:50:33 PM
I love studies that confirm my preexisting bias and anecdotal experience.

My kids and wife are all healthy normal weight, but we eat at fast food joints on occasion.

My weight... not so much "healthy" at the moment, but only slightly so.  I just need more physical activity and to stop picking food off the kid's plates....
 
2014-01-15 03:50:39 PM

MyRandomName: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

Frozen veggies are not expensive. There is a middle ground from picked that day vegetable to oh well McDonald's again.


And recently, frozen veggies have been shown to retain their nutrition very well.
 
2014-01-15 03:51:23 PM

brobdiggy: Once upon a time, a few decades ago:
"Wow.. I'm fat and stupid.  Maybe I should learn something and get in shape. It's gladular"
Result?  People still got fat; they just had a ready made excuse.  People were more likely to take responsibility for themselves.

Today:
"Wow.. I'm fat and stupid.  Someone oughta pass a law!!  Outrage!  Who's fault is this!?!?!"
Result?  Outright bans on products (cola, trans fats), infringements on personal freedoms, and smear campaigns against companies and products that a vocal minority of people dislike.


FTFY
 
2014-01-15 03:52:00 PM

Beerguy: sigdiamond2000: FTFA:

The study's researchers found that children's consumption of fast food is only a small part of a much more pervasive dietary pattern that is fostered at an early age by children's parents and caregivers. The pattern includes few fruits and vegetables, relying instead on high amounts of processed food and sugar-sweetened beverages.

In other words, fast food.

Yeah, the kids swiped the car keys and Mom's Debit card and drove down to Mickey Ds to gorge themselves on McNuggets and shakes. The parents had nothing to do with it, right?


I think what he was saying was that "processed food and sugar sweetened beverages" are a form of fast food, as in, "Oh I'm hungry now what can I eat with zero prep time... Oh this bag of doritos and a mountain dew will suffice" hence the processed food bit.
 
2014-01-15 03:52:25 PM
2 more causes of obesity:

First:
1950:
"Dang.. my kid's getting a biatchunky.  I need to force that kid to exercise"
*kid loses weight and spends time outside*

Today:
"Dang.. my kid's getting a biatchunky. I need to force that kid to exercise"
*CPS gets called because of abusive parent forcing kids to walk or jog*

Second:
Sorry children.  Due to budget cuts, we're getting rid of P.E. classes in 3rd - 6th grades.  However, you must all still report to history.  If don't remember that names of Christopher Columbus' three ships you will fail and be held back 2 grades.  Learning this stuff is important!!!
 
2014-01-15 03:53:50 PM

brobdiggy: 2 more causes of obesity:

First:
1950:
"Dang.. my kid's getting a biatchunky.  I need to force that kid to exercise"
*kid loses weight and spends time outside*

Today:
"Dang.. my kid's getting a biatchunky. I need to force that kid to exercise"
*CPS gets called because of abusive parent forcing kids to walk or jog*

Second:
Sorry children.  Due to budget cuts, we're getting rid of P.E. classes in 3rd - 6th grades.  However, you must all still report to history.  If don't remember that names of Christopher Columbus' three ships you will fail and be held back 2 grades.  Learning this stuff is important!!!


Not just PE.  Remember recess?
 
2014-01-15 03:54:20 PM
Filter pwn in the previous post.... should read "biatchunky"
 
2014-01-15 03:54:31 PM

Thunderpipes: Food is not the issue. We ate a whole lot worse in the 70s. But we were outside all day, running, playing, all day, everyday we could.

Simple lack of movement.


There is truth here.

In my group of friends, none of us were fat as kids...we ate McDonalds, pizza, Pup N' Taco, etc. and never got fat.

We were always outside playing too, either baseball (chipped tooth), football (concussion), riding our bikes (took off two of the nails on my left hand by side swiping a cinder block wall), climbing trees (numerous falls, broken wrist).

Good times.
 
2014-01-15 03:55:28 PM

brobdiggy: biatchunky


Ha! I love the filter. So much accidental hilarity.
 
2014-01-15 03:55:31 PM

brobdiggy: Filter pwn in the previous post.... should read "biatchunky"


dammit.. I just can't win.
 
2014-01-15 03:55:33 PM
If we put poor people to work in the grain fields, they'd get enough exercise and be thin again.  Hundreds of years ago, they had it right--lots of people toiling away if they couldn't afford to do otherwise.  And their diet contained much less meat and fat, and a lot more grain, so their teeth were better and they had fewer heart problems.

Serfdom may not have been all shakes and giggles, but at least the poor people didn't complain about being fat.
 
2014-01-15 03:57:10 PM

sigdiamond2000: No, I'm saying that fast food isn't just fast food restaurants.

I don't think there was anyone seriously arguing that fast food restaurants, on their own, are singularly to blame for childhood obesity.


The_Hairy_Gooch: I think what he was saying was that "processed food and sugar sweetened beverages" are a form of fast food, as in, "Oh I'm hungry now what can I eat with zero prep time... Oh this bag of doritos and a mountain dew will suffice" hence the processed food bit.


Ok, my bad. I misunderstood the statement.
 
2014-01-15 03:58:27 PM

brobdiggy: Once upon a time, a few decades ago:
"Wow.. I'm fat and stupid. Maybe I should learn something and get in shape."
Result? People were more likely to take responsibility for themselves.


Overheard: "I'd do anything to lose weight. I've even looked into getting that surgery!"

The gal who uttered this line, who would "do anything" and "even" looked into elective, invasive surgery, gave no serious consideration to changing her lifestyle. WTF.
 
2014-01-15 04:02:24 PM
This just in: Americans are Fat, Lazy, Stupid, and Ignorant.
Film at 11.
 
2014-01-15 04:03:00 PM

MyRandomName: Wasn't there a study on SNAP last year showing 40% of the money went to sugary drinks. Why is that even allowed.


Because Michelle Obama is fat and Barak has big ears and eats mustard on hamburgers.
 
2014-01-15 04:04:27 PM

cashman: Cue up that fat McDonald's kid!


I read this as "CUT UP"....and thought "well, THAT'S a bit extreme...."
 
2014-01-15 04:04:50 PM

vudukungfu: This just in: Americans are Fat, Lazy, and Stupid. and Ignorant.
Film at 11.


FTFY

We know better, we just don't care enough to change.
 
2014-01-15 04:04:59 PM
FTA: "Children who rely on fast foods may tend to have parents who do not have the means, desire or time to purchase or prepare healthy foods at home," Popkin said. "This is really what is driving children's obesity and what needs to be addressed in any solution."'

I hate that they added this word: desire.
Really? How about energy? It's not just money and time- it takes effort to make good food that's good for you.
And agreed to everyone that mentioned no recess access. That, and you can't ever let your kids play outside without being there with them 100% all of the time, or CPS gets called for possible neglect.
How else are you supposed to get them out from under your feet while you're cooking?
 
2014-01-15 04:06:20 PM

JohnAnnArbor: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

Getting held up, rampant theft, etc. makes a low-margin business like grocery stores even more difficult to run.  There's a reason Detroit has few grocery stores (two opened to great fanfare recently).

On top of that, charge more than a suburban market?  Racist!  Detain a shoplifter?  Racist!  And on and on.  It's easier to close the store and do business elsewhere.


Don't forget dry asparagus.
 
Ant
2014-01-15 04:08:36 PM

brobdiggy: "Wow.. I'm fat and stupid.  Someone oughta pass a law!!  Outrage!  Who's fault is this!?!?!"


I not so sure it's fat people who want these laws.
 
2014-01-15 04:09:45 PM
Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link
 
2014-01-15 04:09:47 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: JohnAnnArbor: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

Getting held up, rampant theft, etc. makes a low-margin business like grocery stores even more difficult to run.  There's a reason Detroit has few grocery stores (two opened to great fanfare recently).

On top of that, charge more than a suburban market?  Racist!  Detain a shoplifter?  Racist!  And on and on.  It's easier to close the store and do business elsewhere.

Don't forget dry asparagus.


Schnuks schnuks schnuks
 
2014-01-15 04:10:52 PM
Not.
I was raised on pretty much the same thing as is around today, and i've been 170 for almost the last 40 years.
It's more like get off your a$$ and do something to burn off all that food.
 
2014-01-15 04:11:07 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: For several years, many have been quick to attribute rising fast-food consumption as the major factor causing rapid increases in childhood obesity. However a new study found that fast-food consumption is simply a byproduct of a much bigger problem: poor all-day-long dietary habits that originate in children's homes.


This study funded by McDonalds, Wendy's, Roy Rogers, Arbys, Burger King, etc...

Lets take the focus off of the bullshiat that we're feeding you and point fingers at you because our business is starting to suffer from all of this healthy talk about moderation and eliminating fast food from the diet.


Emphasis mine. There's the problem right there! All this time, we've been oblivious to the squads of clown-men breaking into our houses and forcing our children to eat hamburgers. What an important discovery you've made.

Common sense: children can't drive themselves to McDonalds, and generally wouldn't have the money to buy hamburgers even if they big-wheeled it down there. Basically, children don't make dietary decisions, parents do. Children's dietary problems are parents fault and responsibility, period.
 
2014-01-15 04:11:08 PM

palelizard: If we put poor people to work in the grain fields, they'd get enough exercise and be thin again.  Hundreds of years ago, they had it right--lots of people toiling away if they couldn't afford to do otherwise.  And their diet contained much less meat and fat, and a lot more grain, so their teeth were better and they had fewer heart problems.

Serfdom may not have been all shakes and giggles, but at least the poor people didn't complain about being fat.



I take it you've never seen a life expectancy chart. Hell, lets expand on your point and do it like they did in the days of George Washington. A man could live to the ripe old age of 42.
 
2014-01-15 04:11:14 PM

tlars699: And agreed to everyone that mentioned no recess access. That, and you can't ever let your kids play outside without being there with them 100% all of the time, or CPS gets called for possible neglect.

 There is a line between Little Johnny out playing in his front yard or at a friend's house and Little Johnny is playing outside in torn clothes, unkempt hair, and doesn't look like he's been fed very well for weeks and the neighbors know something bad is going on, this is the last straw, I'm calling CPS.


I can see maybe not wanting to let them go outside if you're in a neighborhood that would be called "war torn" if it wasn't in the US, but average America USA, where it appears people are phobic about interacting with others?  Please.
 
2014-01-15 04:12:04 PM

brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link


Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.
 
2014-01-15 04:12:55 PM

tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.


no she wasn't.
 
Ant
2014-01-15 04:13:53 PM
If you look at the group of people who are most outraged by the obesity epidemic, I'd wager that the majority of them are not obese.
 
2014-01-15 04:14:45 PM

JohnAnnArbor: MyRandomName: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

Frozen veggies are not expensive. There is a middle ground from picked that day vegetable to oh well McDonald's again.

And recently, frozen veggies have been shown to retain their nutrition very well.


Recently?  I knew that frozen veggies are very good nutritionally 25 years ago.
 
2014-01-15 04:15:08 PM

tlars699: Satan's Bunny Slippers: JohnAnnArbor: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

Getting held up, rampant theft, etc. makes a low-margin business like grocery stores even more difficult to run.  There's a reason Detroit has few grocery stores (two opened to great fanfare recently).

On top of that, charge more than a suburban market?  Racist!  Detain a shoplifter?  Racist!  And on and on.  It's easier to close the store and do business elsewhere.

Don't forget dry asparagus.

Schnuks schnuks schnuks


I have a love/hate relationship with Schnucks.  Mostly hate though.
 
Ant
2014-01-15 04:16:07 PM

brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link


Yes, your freedom to be an abusive asshole has been curtailed. Oh no!
 
2014-01-15 04:17:08 PM

meat0918: tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

no she wasn't.


and here's some proof for you

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-24/hollywood-auction-ends-myth -o f-zaftig-marilyn-virginia-postrel.html
The auction's top-ticket item was Monroe's famous white halter dress from "The Seven Year Itch," the one that billowed up as the subway passed. It sold for almost $5.66 million (including the buyer's premium) to an unknown phone bidder. Sharing a rotating mirrored platform with Hedy Lamarr's peacock gown from "Samson and Delilah" and Kim Novak's rhinestone- fringed show dress from "Jeanne Eagels,"

Monroe's costume was displayed on a mannequin that had been carved down from a standard size 2 to accommodate the tiny waist. Even then, the zipper could not entirely close.
 
2014-01-15 04:17:29 PM
Heroin isn't the reason you're an addict. You are.
 
2014-01-15 04:17:56 PM
It certainly is McDonald's fault. No matter what I do he keeps coming back, leaving disgusting trails of McNuggets and clown makeup throughout the house. I can hear him now scratching around in the attic. I can actually smell the deep fryers cooking that vile food.

I've trapped him twice, but animal control refused to come get him. I let him go a few towns over and sealed the vents, but he still chewed his way back in.

Next time I catch him, I'm just going throw the whole damn trap into a lake.
 
2014-01-15 04:18:17 PM
I'll take it one more step. Part of the reason unhealthy processed foods and such are used is because they are much easier to keep in great quantity for long periods of time, unlike fresh fruit and vegetables. Especially in the quantities needed to feed "everyone".
 
2014-01-15 04:18:54 PM

That Guy Jeff: DROxINxTHExWIND: For several years, many have been quick to attribute rising fast-food consumption as the major factor causing rapid increases in childhood obesity. However a new study found that fast-food consumption is simply a byproduct of a much bigger problem: poor all-day-long dietary habits that originate in children's homes.


This study funded by McDonalds, Wendy's, Roy Rogers, Arbys, Burger King, etc...

Lets take the focus off of the bullshiat that we're feeding you and point fingers at you because our business is starting to suffer from all of this healthy talk about moderation and eliminating fast food from the diet.

Emphasis mine. There's the problem right there! All this time, we've been oblivious to the squads of clown-men breaking into our houses and forcing our children to eat hamburgers. What an important discovery you've made.

Common sense: children can't drive themselves to McDonalds, and generally wouldn't have the money to buy hamburgers even if they big-wheeled it down there. Basically, children don't make dietary decisions, parents do. Children's dietary problems are parents fault and responsibility, period.


Champ, this isn't about who pulls out the credit card. It's about information. And this study, brought to you by the fast food industry isn't saying that you SHOULD NOT eat fast food, its suggesting the opposite. The way I intepret the study it's saying, the problem isn't the food we sold you which we told you was ok to eat, the problem is that you believed us. Now that we have all of this information, fast food consumption has gone down. While people knew that you may get high cholesterol if you eat fries everyday, no one signed up to eat pink sludge or to eat foods that increase the risk of cancer. So, stop trying to act like parents are blaming McDonalds for "making" them eat there. Folks had been kept in the dark about how terrible it really is for you.
 
Ant
2014-01-15 04:19:05 PM

tlars699: Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.


Women's clothing sizes are relative. 1960s size 12 != 2014 size 12
 
Ant
2014-01-15 04:21:49 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Not just PE.  Remember recess?


Yes, because they still have it.
 
2014-01-15 04:22:01 PM

meat0918: tlars699: And agreed to everyone that mentioned no recess access. That, and you can't ever let your kids play outside without being there with them 100% all of the time, or CPS gets called for possible neglect.
 There is a line between Little Johnny out playing in his front yard or at a friend's house and Little Johnny is playing outside in torn clothes, unkempt hair, and doesn't look like he's been fed very well for weeks and the neighbors know something bad is going on, this is the last straw, I'm calling CPS.


I can see maybe not wanting to let them go outside if you're in a neighborhood that would be called "war torn" if it wasn't in the US, but average America USA, where it appears people are phobic about interacting with others?  Please.


Agreed.
However, if your neighbors don't like you, you would still get investigated.
If you have an investigation, and you have shared custody with other parent, other parent could say whatever they want to try and get kids from you, so you have to pay them child support.

Or neighbor decides that Shelly and Steven shouldn't play together, because Shelly's parents believe in evolution. Shelly comes over, because nobody previously said anything- Steven's mom calls CPS- "I'm always feeding her and taking care of her!!"
CPS Investigates, and takes her away because Steven's mom starts saying other crap about molestation stories.

CPS likes "saving" kids who "need" it, and looking over kids that actually do, because "not enough evidence".

/Way too much experience. Maybe it's just my state. Who knows?
//Laws that require the victim(child) to report abuse for probably cause, suck.
 
2014-01-15 04:23:05 PM

brobdiggy: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

The idea of "food deserts" where there's no food and the idea that healthy food is expensive are mostly myths.  The people I see complaining the most about expensive healthy food snack on King Size candy bars at $1.79 each when they could have bought bananas at $0.50 per pound.


I don't know where you live, but bananas are never that cheap, and most other fruits and vegetables are more expensive. Unfortunately, most people are also not educated about healthy food choices and will go for cheap over healthy. I bet most people couldn't name most vegetables if you put them in front of them and certainly wouldn't know how to prepare them. I'm not blaming the government, I know people need to educate themselves, but most won't, so the government providing info about healthy foods could help.
 
2014-01-15 04:25:16 PM

big pig peaches: It certainly is McDonald's fault. No matter what I do he keeps coming back, leaving disgusting trails of McNuggets and clown makeup throughout the house. I can hear him now scratching around in the attic. I can actually smell the deep fryers cooking that vile food.

I've trapped him twice, but animal control refused to come get him. I let him go a few towns over and sealed the vents, but he still chewed his way back in.

Next time I catch him, I'm just going throw the whole damn trap into a lake.


That's actually the boogeyman - you've been lucky so far.
 
2014-01-15 04:27:22 PM
Damn you for bringing up personal responsibility! Eating shiatty food and not exercising has nothing to do with how fat I am, this is someone else's fault.
 
Ant
2014-01-15 04:28:41 PM

meat0918: There is a line between Little Johnny out playing in his front yard or at a friend's house and Little Johnny is playing outside in torn clothes, unkempt hair, and doesn't look like he's been fed very well for weeks and the neighbors know something bad is going on, this is the last straw, I'm calling CPS.


When I was an 8-year-old kid, I'd roam the entire city (Boise, ID) with my friends. If a parent let their kid do that nowadays, you're gonna be accused of being the worst parent on Earth.
 
2014-01-15 04:33:05 PM

meat0918: tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

no she wasn't.


I had to look it up. You're right-why does the fashion industry keep changing the standards/history?
 
2014-01-15 04:33:54 PM

Ant: tlars699: Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

Women's clothing sizes are relative. 1960s size 12 != 2014 size 12


That's true for men's clothes too. As far as T-shirts go, small now is what large was back in the 80s.

I bought a small size button down flannel shirt online from Eddie Bauer recently and it's like a f*cking parachute. All these "slim fit" men's dress shirts are basically just fitted they way they were before everything ballooned up to twice their purported size. That's why it's so f*cking hard to find men's clothes that fit these days. They way different companies size things now seems to be almost random.
 
2014-01-15 04:37:19 PM

meat0918: meat0918: tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

no she wasn't.

and here's some proof for you

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-24/hollywood-auction-ends-myth -o f-zaftig-marilyn-virginia-postrel.html
The auction's top-ticket item was Monroe's famous white halter dress from "The Seven Year Itch," the one that billowed up as the subway passed. It sold for almost $5.66 million (including the buyer's premium) to an unknown phone bidder. Sharing a rotating mirrored platform with Hedy Lamarr's peacock gown from "Samson and Delilah" and Kim Novak's rhinestone- fringed show dress from "Jeanne Eagels,"

Monroe's costume was displayed on a mannequin that had been carved down from a standard size 2 to accommodate the tiny waist. Even then, the zipper could not entirely close.


A 2 would not accommodate her bust/hips, which were 36" according to her dressmaker. It helps that it was a billowy dress though.

She did have 22" waist which would be a size 1 in hip measurements, but then women are supposed to be rectangles with no curves anymore, right?
 
2014-01-15 04:39:21 PM

tlars699: meat0918: tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

no she wasn't.

I had to look it up. You're right-why does the fashion industry keep changing the standards/history?


To sell more clothes.

If they were honest, they'd sell women's clothes with bust, waist, hip, and inseam measurements where appropriate.

Here's something else for you

thesocietypages.org


And thanks for accepting the source on Marilyn's real size.  I've had people start yelling at me and not believing it on one of the few occasions it has ever come up, even though they had her actual measurements right in front of them.
 
2014-01-15 04:40:16 PM

Ant: JohnAnnArbor: Not just PE.  Remember recess?

Yes, because they still have it.


Maybe at your school. o_O
 
2014-01-15 04:41:08 PM
MyRandomName: Wasn't there a study on SNAP last year showing 40% of the money went to sugary drinks. Why is that even allowed.

Do you want to turn your back on campaign contributions from Big Sugar, Mister Senator?
 
2014-01-15 04:42:01 PM

tlars699: meat0918: meat0918: tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

no she wasn't.

and here's some proof for you

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-24/hollywood-auction-ends-myth -o f-zaftig-marilyn-virginia-postrel.html
The auction's top-ticket item was Monroe's famous white halter dress from "The Seven Year Itch," the one that billowed up as the subway passed. It sold for almost $5.66 million (including the buyer's premium) to an unknown phone bidder. Sharing a rotating mirrored platform with Hedy Lamarr's peacock gown from "Samson and Delilah" and Kim Novak's rhinestone- fringed show dress from "Jeanne Eagels,"

Monroe's costume was displayed on a mannequin that had been carved down from a standard size 2 to accommodate the tiny waist. Even then, the zipper could not entirely close.

A 2 would not accommodate her bust/hips, which were 36" according to her dressmaker. It helps that it was a billowy dress though.

She did have 22" waist which would be a size 1 in hip measurements, but then women are supposed to be rectangles with no curves anymore, right?


I really honestly blame the one(or few) size(s) fits all culture that took over the American clothing industry as well as the decline of tailors.

I need Large Tall long sleeve shirts, because most Extra Larges are too billowy, but Large the arms are almost always too short.
 
2014-01-15 04:42:25 PM

meat0918: tlars699: meat0918: tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

no she wasn't.

I had to look it up. You're right-why does the fashion industry keep changing the standards/history?

To sell more clothes.

If they were honest, they'd sell women's clothes with bust, waist, hip, and inseam measurements where appropriate.

Here's something else for you

[thesocietypages.org image 600x801]


And thanks for accepting the source on Marilyn's real size.  I've had people start yelling at me and not believing it on one of the few occasions it has ever come up, even though they had her actual measurements right in front of them.


I was disappointed in Wikipedia for the first time today, but Jezebel (of all sites) corroborated your story.
I mean if you have "Sexual Icon" in the description of the person, maybe their physical stats should be considered important enough to list? Maybe?
 
2014-01-15 04:43:11 PM
All I know is, in the Land of the Morbidly Obese, the Merely Overweight man is King!
 
2014-01-15 04:45:36 PM

sigdiamond2000: That's true for men's clothes too. As far as T-shirts go, small now is what large was back in the 80s.


Which is why I know I'm an 18.5" collar, a 35/36" sleeve length (for dress shirts), 38" waist and 34" inseam (suit pants/slacks are slightly different).

They haven't changed the length of an inch in a few hundred years.

// everything should be sized by inches
// "that dress? it's a size 36-22-36." BAM! No guesswork.
 
2014-01-15 04:46:26 PM

That Guy Jeff: Children's dietary problems are parents fault and responsibility, period.


Agreed.

Now what do we do about it?
 
2014-01-15 04:48:39 PM

meat0918: tlars699: meat0918: meat0918: tlars699: brobdiggy: Another reason why obesity is up:

1950
Joe:  "Damn.  That guy Billy is a fatty"
*nothing happens to Joe because Billy really is morbidly obese

Today:
Steve:  "Maybe Michelle (who is morbidly obese) should lose some weight..."
*OMG you can't say that to people because self-esteem and body image!  You need to accept her!  You're a terrible person and you need to publicly apologize!  OUTRAGE WHARRGARBLL.

Case in point is the Gabourey Sidibe spat at the Golden Globes.
This page lets you zoom in on a picture.  Beware of the arms at the elbow joint....

Link

Yes, but morbidly obese in the 1950's and morbidly obese now mean different things. Marilyn Monroe was obese by today's standards.

no she wasn't.

and here's some proof for you

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-24/hollywood-auction-ends-myth -o f-zaftig-marilyn-virginia-postrel.html
The auction's top-ticket item was Monroe's famous white halter dress from "The Seven Year Itch," the one that billowed up as the subway passed. It sold for almost $5.66 million (including the buyer's premium) to an unknown phone bidder. Sharing a rotating mirrored platform with Hedy Lamarr's peacock gown from "Samson and Delilah" and Kim Novak's rhinestone- fringed show dress from "Jeanne Eagels,"

Monroe's costume was displayed on a mannequin that had been carved down from a standard size 2 to accommodate the tiny waist. Even then, the zipper could not entirely close.

A 2 would not accommodate her bust/hips, which were 36" according to her dressmaker. It helps that it was a billowy dress though.

She did have 22" waist which would be a size 1 in hip measurements, but then women are supposed to be rectangles with no curves anymore, right?

I really honestly blame the one(or few) size(s) fits all culture that took over the American clothing industry as well as the decline of tailors.

I need Large Tall long sleeve shirts, because most Extra Larges are too billowy, but Large the a ...


Do you know what is nearly impossible to find? Sewing patterns for men's clothes.
I have been able to find only the most absolutely ugly designs for men's dress pants, one shirt pattern, and two vest patterns.
There is more variety in the costume patterns, and they turn out more attractive.
The bold is for the decline of sewing in American culture in general. Because it doesn't fit the disposal culture.

As for chubbiness, cut back on urban sprawl, and encourage people to walk more?
 
2014-01-15 04:52:40 PM

tricycleracer: That Guy Jeff: Children's dietary problems are parents fault and responsibility, period.

Agreed.

Now what do we do about it?


Science will fix the problem eventually.
 
2014-01-15 05:00:17 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: palelizard: If we put poor people to work in the grain fields, they'd get enough exercise and be thin again.  Hundreds of years ago, they had it right--lots of people toiling away if they couldn't afford to do otherwise.  And their diet contained much less meat and fat, and a lot more grain, so their teeth were better and they had fewer heart problems.

Serfdom may not have been all shakes and giggles, but at least the poor people didn't complain about being fat.


I take it you've never seen a life expectancy chart. Hell, lets expand on your point and do it like they did in the days of George Washington. A man could live to the ripe old age of 42.


So you're saying we'd save on Medicare and Social Security as well?
 
2014-01-15 05:00:24 PM
Our future!

Oh, who am I kidding...I see this on a regular basis TODAY.

www.sickchirpse.com
 
2014-01-15 05:03:30 PM

tricycleracer: That Guy Jeff: Children's dietary problems are parents fault and responsibility, period.

Agreed.

Now what do we do about it?


Take some personal responsibility and make health and fitness a priority in our families lives?
 
2014-01-15 05:06:27 PM

tlars699: Do you know what is nearly impossible to find? Sewing patterns for men's clothes.
I have been able to find only the most absolutely ugly designs for men's dress pants, one shirt pattern, and two vest patterns.
There is more variety in the costume patterns, and they turn out more attractive.
The bold is for the decline of sewing in American culture in general. Because it doesn't fit the disposal culture.

As for chubbiness, cut back on urban sprawl, and encourage people to walk more?


Agreed.  My wife finally found a nice costume shirt pattern that should make decent shirts for me.  If only good fabric wasn't so goddamned expensive.

I want to visit my brother in China in a few years, and when I do, I will hit up his tailor for clothes.  He's 6'4" and probably the tallest American most have ever seen up close in China, but I digress.
 
2014-01-15 05:08:53 PM

baconbeard: tricycleracer: That Guy Jeff: Children's dietary problems are parents fault and responsibility, period.

Agreed.

Now what do we do about it?

Take some personal responsibility and make health and fitness a priority in our families lives?


[ohwaityoureserious.jpg]
 
2014-01-15 05:27:19 PM

TheEdibleSnuggie: Our future!

Oh, who am I kidding...I see this on a regular basis TODAY.

[www.sickchirpse.com image 850x353]


dilbert.com
 
2014-01-15 05:31:55 PM

Beerguy: There is truth here.

In my group of friends, none of us were fat as kids...we ate McDonalds, pizza, Pup N' Taco, etc. and never got fat.

We were always outside playing too, either baseball (chipped tooth), football (concussion), riding our bikes (took off two of the nails on my left hand by side swiping a cinder block wall), climbing trees (numerous falls, broken wrist).

Good times.


Snoflakes can't get hurt anymore.  Think of the children, why don't you?


/Broken 12 toes, 6 fingers, two ankles, 1 fibula and a rib.


meat0918: I really honestly blame the one(or few) size(s) fits all culture that took over the American clothing industry as well as the decline of tailors.

I need Large Tall long sleeve shirts, because most Extra Larges are too billowy, but Large the a ...


When I buy a shirt that fits my neck (22") there is enough fabric in the body to make nearly two shirts that would fit me.

 
2014-01-15 05:47:03 PM

tlars699: Really? How about energy? It's not just money and time- it takes effort to make good food that's good for you.


The effort of home cooking is grossly overstated by shows in which people create dishes for fine dining and series in which grandma spends 3 hours in the kitchen (90% of the time isn't actually necessary to be in the kitchen because food doesn't cook faster if you stare at it) for a casserole. Regular home cooked meals take hardly any effort at all.

/I leave my house at 8:00 in the morning on Mondays and return somewhere around 20:50
//Tuesdays are long as well, but not quite that long
///Cook something extra on Sunday to cover the Monday and cook something new on Tuesday
 
2014-01-15 06:06:33 PM

beerrun: cashman: Cue up that fat McDonald's kid!

[images.dailytech.com image 410x261]


McDonald's kid v2.0

i216.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-15 06:14:03 PM

Dr Dreidel: sigdiamond2000: That's true for men's clothes too. As far as T-shirts go, small now is what large was back in the 80s.

Which is why I know I'm an 18.5" collar, a 35/36" sleeve length (for dress shirts), 38" waist and 34" inseam (suit pants/slacks are slightly different).

They haven't changed the length of an inch in a few hundred years.

// everything should be sized by inches
// "that dress? it's a size 36-22-36." BAM! No guesswork.


The size of an inch hasn't changed, but GAP pants that are labelled 32" waist aren't actually 32" around, they're larger. Which made it a bit of a shock when I went in to try on a suit, confidently named my measurements, then became befuddled when the pants wouldn't even button.

Also interesting when you pull a pair of pants from your closet that's 10 years old, marked the same size as the pair you bought last week, but they aren't even close to the same size.

Vanity sizing, already available at a men's clothier near you.
 
2014-01-15 06:39:40 PM
This is one of the least surprising stories ever.

But I'm sure many parents will act shocked. Or insulted.
 
2014-01-15 06:47:41 PM
For christ sakes... just DO SOMETHING!

Take a bike ride, go on and walk, use the stairs as much as it is reasonable, you don't need to eat McDonalds for a third time in the day, drink water instead of soda and control the portions.

Yes, there are a lot of people that are fat as result of health problems or psychological issues, but I doubt that those are more than the ones who are just taking poor care of themselves.

/Trying to take a better care of myself.
//Overweight most of my life, aware that it was because I'm lazy and I like to eat...
 
2014-01-15 06:53:00 PM

Beerguy: vudukungfu: This just in: Americans are Fat, Lazy, and Stupid. and Ignorant.
Film at 11.

FTFY

We know better, we just don't care enough to change.


And arrogant.
 
2014-01-15 07:01:53 PM

brobdiggy: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

The idea of "food deserts" where there's no food and the idea that healthy food is expensive are mostly myths.  The people I see complaining the most about expensive healthy food snack on King Size candy bars at $1.79 each when they could have bought bananas at $0.50 per pound.


THIS ^

I go to the ghettos to buy my groceries. They are super-cheap there.

The main place where there are food deserts are where there are white people. If the population is over 90% white in a city, there is bound to be 10 Korgers two miles of each other selling over-priced produce. If there is significant Asian, Middle East and other foreign populace, there are plenty of amazing grocery stores.
 
Ant
2014-01-15 07:06:04 PM

DarkPascual: Overweight most of my life, aware that it was because I'm lazy and I like to eat...


Every other fat person is aware of this fact too. I don't know why people are still telling fat people how to cease being fat as if it's some sort of arcane knowledge or something.
 
2014-01-15 07:36:23 PM

Ant: DarkPascual: Overweight most of my life, aware that it was because I'm lazy and I like to eat...

Every other fat person is aware of this fact too. I don't know why people are still telling fat people how to cease being fat as if it's some sort of arcane knowledge or something.


Well, when you start only eating 2 meals a day, and biking 30 miles a week, so you're hungry and tired and sore, and only drop 20 pounds (of 300) and then plateau hard before gaining some weight back, you just go "FARK THIS".  And then you stop, but now your metabolism is farked up, so the habits that got you to 300 now get you to 320 because your metabolism is recovering.  Repeat, repeat, repeat.

It's one thing to say "Move," it's another thing to say "Move enough to lose 120 pounds (40%) so that you can be normal like the doctor wants you to be and stay there forever."  You could stick me in a concentration camp for a year, and I might lose 120 pounds.  Anything short of that is just futile.

Sure, you CAN lose weight, but if you've been fat for a long time (3 years here), your body wants to be fat, so you're losing maybe 10 pounds a year after the initial 20 by being better than the skinny people.  And you're still fat (I was 240 and then I was 320, and I was still wearing the same pant size and still had the same rolls of fat of the same size in the same places).

/Mind you, given the shiat that I was pulling to get to 320, I was correctly 320, but still.
//Seriously, you want to make a billion dollars?  Figure out how to rip off 120 pounds and then give me your metabolism.  Because that would be some awesome shiat.
///Mac got fat (40 pounds, IIRC) by eating 5000 calories a day to maintain it, and then lost it all in 2 months by eating normally.  No diet, just "Oh yeah, I'm eating the same stuff as you".  WTF?  How do you do that?
 
2014-01-15 07:38:26 PM

Ant: DarkPascual: Overweight most of my life, aware that it was because I'm lazy and I like to eat...

Every other fat person is aware of this fact too. I don't know why people are still telling fat people how to cease being fat as if it's some sort of arcane knowledge or something.


Because of this nonsense: Health at Every Size
 
2014-01-15 07:52:17 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: This is one of the least surprising stories ever.

But I'm sure many parents will act shocked. Or insulted.


"Science is fat-shaming my child!  The outrage!"
 
2014-01-15 08:40:19 PM
I eat fast food on a regular basis since my job is usually 14-16 hours per day. I must be wired differently than the people who get fat off of the fast food or they eat twice as much per sitting than I do because I have been the same size since high school.(155 lbs) I really don't understand the blame game with fast food. If you're fat, eat less of it and start walking around your neighborhood everyday. *Shrugs*
 
2014-01-15 10:35:16 PM
Wait... you mean fat lazy parents who don't cook raise fat lazy kids?
 
2014-01-15 11:35:31 PM

JohnAnnArbor: MyRandomName: There's Always A Bloody Ghost: This is all very well and fine, but when you're poor, fresh fruits and vegetables are either not available in your neighbourhood, or they are too expensive. When you have hungry mouths to feed, you're going to go for the most food for the least amount of money. What really needs to change is to have more real, budget grocery stores or produce sellers in poor neighbourhoods and less 711s and fast food joints.

Frozen veggies are not expensive. There is a middle ground from picked that day vegetable to oh well McDonald's again.

And recently, frozen veggies have been shown to retain their nutrition very well.


If you mean recently as in the 1960s, then yes.
 
2014-01-16 02:47:06 AM
We get burgers for the kids a lot, especially since my youngest is autistic and eats a very small list of foods. They are both slender and fit. But we don't buy fries and soda, or the two of them split a small fry order. And we usually take the burgers home and serve them with veggies and fruit for dessert, water to drink. And they take swim classes, play soccer and we all go for jogs/walks as a family. It's almost like obesity is a complex, comprehensive problem and you can eat fast food if you aren't stupid about it.
 
2014-01-16 02:55:42 AM
biatchunky.
 
2014-01-16 04:34:29 AM

Ant: meat0918: There is a line between Little Johnny out playing in his front yard or at a friend's house and Little Johnny is playing outside in torn clothes, unkempt hair, and doesn't look like he's been fed very well for weeks and the neighbors know something bad is going on, this is the last straw, I'm calling CPS.

When I was an 8-year-old kid, I'd roam the entire city (Boise, ID) with my friends. If a parent let their kid do that nowadays, you're gonna be accused of being the worst parent on Earth.


What did you do for the other 23 hours and 55 minutes of the day?
 
2014-01-16 04:39:46 AM

SideshowRaheem: Dr Dreidel: sigdiamond2000: That's true for men's clothes too. As far as T-shirts go, small now is what large was back in the 80s.

Which is why I know I'm an 18.5" collar, a 35/36" sleeve length (for dress shirts), 38" waist and 34" inseam (suit pants/slacks are slightly different).

They haven't changed the length of an inch in a few hundred years.

// everything should be sized by inches
// "that dress? it's a size 36-22-36." BAM! No guesswork.

The size of an inch hasn't changed, but GAP pants that are labelled 32" waist aren't actually 32" around, they're larger. Which made it a bit of a shock when I went in to try on a suit, confidently named my measurements, then became befuddled when the pants wouldn't even button.

Also interesting when you pull a pair of pants from your closet that's 10 years old, marked the same size as the pair you bought last week, but they aren't even close to the same size.

Vanity sizing, already available at a men's clothier near you.


Men's clothing stays in style for years. If I were a man and satisfied with my weight, I'd opt for bespoke clothes. Made to fit, and much better quality. It's a larger initial investment but you'll have the stuff for years.
 
2014-01-16 06:45:35 AM

Beerguy: Thunderpipes: Food is not the issue. We ate a whole lot worse in the 70s. But we were outside all day, running, playing, all day, everyday we could.

Simple lack of movement.

There is truth here.

In my group of friends, none of us were fat as kids...we ate McDonalds, pizza, Pup N' Taco, etc. and never got fat.

We were always outside playing too, either baseball (chipped tooth), football (concussion), riding our bikes (took off two of the nails on my left hand by side swiping a cinder block wall), climbing trees (numerous falls, broken wrist).

Good times.


These.

Of course, it comes from the same place as letting your kids eat shiat for food all the time.  The inability to say "No." to their precious snowflake and have it mean something.

Fat can still be a genetic thing or a result of eating habits(when over how much) or other biological reasons that make shedding fat/keeping trim hard work.  I knew some kids that were fat back in the day, but they still did all the same things and ate the same foods.  Once your body decides to start storing every bit of fat, it can take a LOT of hard work to shift the cycle(ie much more work than any skinny person has ever done). But the numbers/ratios were far lower.

/emphasis, "can" it's a much over-used excuse today
//Strictly speaking children here, fat adults are a different story altogether
 
2014-01-16 02:04:37 PM
Where were all you people saying "duh--maybe the parents should be more responsible" over the last decade, in which we saw the rise of the McDonald's hate and that stupid "Supersize Me" movie?

Unhealthy adults do it to themselves, and unhealthy kids have no-one to blame but their parents.
 
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