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(South Jersey Courier-Post)   NJ courts declare all parents from '80s and earlier were child abusers   (courierpostonline.com) divider line 23
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2014-01-15 04:48:43 PM  
7 votes:

Don't Lag Me Bro: That is farking ridiculous. I know my wife once parked the car in front of the library, walked 30 seconds to drop a book off at the drop bin came outside and some guy was screaming at her like she had been beating our son and was going to call the cops. Drove her to tears.

If "leaving your child alone for a few minutes" is a crime, every parent on the planet would be in the slammer. Yes, there is neglect, but I think your are talking on the order of hours, not minutes.


My parents left me in the car to run into the gas station and pay all the time without even thinking once about it. My wife is terrified to do that with our sons, not for fear of a predator or harm coming to them but rather that someone is going to make a stink about it. This is how freedom dies, not with a jack-boot but with millions of empty headed busybodies.
2014-01-15 04:47:01 PM  
7 votes:
I don't know....am I the only one thinking that leaving your car in a mall parking with the engine running is stupid, kid or no kid???
2014-01-15 05:52:38 PM  
2 votes:

Belias: Nightjars: Its pretty stupid in either case...  Opportunistic thieves exist, and chances are, one will happen to be in the right place at the right time while you're running into the 7-11 for a pack of smokes, sooner or later.

Drunk drivers exist too.  Sooner or later you will be involved in a serious car accident.  Is driving around with your children now cause for child abuse charges?

There are 100 activities that a child can get into every single day that are far more likely to result in serious harm, than being left in a locked car for a few minutes.  This case will be overturned.


My comment had nothing to do with child abuse; I agree that this is not a cage of child abuse - its a gross overreaction.

Leaving your car running in a parking lot is about as bright as leaving your wallet on the sidewalk and expecting it to stay put.  Sure, people *shouldn't* mess with it, but most people have enough common sense to know that this is a terrible idea.  This isn't a case of "what if?", and looking for a problem where one is not likely to exist.  Leaving your car running in a parking lot is practically an open invitation for somebody to steal it.  If you disagree, that is fine; feel free to leave your car running while it is unattended.  I will feel perfectly justified in thinking that this is completely moronic.
2014-01-15 05:29:48 PM  
2 votes:
My mom left me alone in a car once. I almost died. I was bleeding profusely and had a skull fracture. Now some of you are going to come up with lame excuses, citing that the car was parked in front of the ER and she was frantically running in to get help... but the court knows... she was inviting danger. What if there had been a carjacker, just waiting at the ER parking lot for someone to abduct or a car to steal. Very dangerous, right?

Ok, seriously though, with the exception of actual emergencies, like what happened to me... you just shouldn't leave kids alone in the car. Even if you are just running into the convenience store, or if you're only getting milk in the grocery store, you just shouldn't. Whether the danger you are considering is predatory behavior, car thieves, car fires, or just the kid finally figuring out how to get out of the car (dealt with that a few months ago, found a toddler-sized person wandering in the parking garage connected to my store, brought him in, called security to find her). Just don't do it... I know, kids are loud, buckling them in and out takes more time than the whole shopping venture in 7-11, they cry or scream, it's easier to leave them asleep, etc.... but don't do it... your kid is a kid, they can't protect themselves, they can't defend themselves, and if buckled in, they can't get themselves out in case of fire or other emergency... your primary job in life as a parent or caretaker is to look out for their safety, the other stuff (annoying though it may be) needs to be secondary.
2014-01-15 05:00:26 PM  
2 votes:
Next time someone leaves a kid alone in a car, the appropriate response is to follow them and eventually shoot them.
2014-01-15 04:45:50 PM  
2 votes:
Meanwhile, in Denmark:

news.bbcimg.co.uk

/Yes, there are babies in those prams. Yes, they're unattended.
2014-01-15 04:36:48 PM  
2 votes:
My parents never locked me in a running car.  I'm way older than the "80's".
2014-01-15 07:45:41 PM  
1 votes:

Belias: Nightjars: Leaving your car running in a parking lot is practically an open invitation for somebody to steal it.  If you disagree, that is fine; feel free to leave your car running while it is unattended.

Since it's indicated in the article that the car was locked, the fact that it was running does nothing to encourage theft.  You do realize that modern cars with remote ignition can be started from outside with the doors remaining locked, right?  Breaking in will not give you the ability to drive the vehicle without the key.  The transmission will not engage, the steering wheel will not move, and if you don't insert the key within 30 seconds, the engine shuts...


There is no indication that this was a remote start vehicle and there is a high probability that your assumption of no key in the ignition is wrong.

Also, a running vehicle is a loud *invitation* to a thief to investigate if the car can in fact be stolen. And while I'd like to think that the majority of thieves would curb the kid instead of running off or "disposing" of them, that risk is in fact there.

It's more then unforeseeable negligence, it is willful negligence.The situation could easily been avoided, and was made potentially dangerous by her actions, but she chose not too for whatever reason.

I do agree, however, that if this is the only reason that child services has the women on radar then loss of custody is a gross over reaction.
2014-01-15 06:18:38 PM  
1 votes:
Just because your parents did it and nothing happened doesn't mean it was a good idea. It just means you were lucky.
2014-01-15 05:42:26 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah, the running car thing is idiotic.

Child theft is rare, property theft is not.  Leaving $15,000 worth of unattended property with an invitation for someone to drive off with it is moronic (and then leaving your kid in that property is moreso)
2014-01-15 05:21:27 PM  
1 votes:
One of the mom's at my daughter's school left an infant in the running  car while she dropped off her toddler. Car got stolen.
2014-01-15 04:59:20 PM  
1 votes:

tlars699: Missicat: I don't know....am I the only one thinking that leaving your car in a mall parking with the engine running is stupid, kid or no kid???

Mall/shopping centre? Yes
Strip Mall with small stores and huge windows? Then, no.


Its pretty stupid in either case...  Opportunistic thieves exist, and chances are, one will happen to be in the right place at the right time while you're running into the 7-11 for a pack of smokes, sooner or later.
2014-01-15 04:56:27 PM  
1 votes:
I'm a product of the 70s...

My parents never left the keys in the car (or the engine running) until I was old enough that my parents were willing to hand me the keys to unlock the car and let myself in.  I'm not saying that she did something absolutely awful, but its bad judgement to leave your car running with it unattended (children do not count as leaving a car attended).
2014-01-15 04:50:19 PM  
1 votes:

Don't Lag Me Bro: That is farking ridiculous. I know my wife once parked the car in front of the library, walked 30 seconds to drop a book off at the drop bin came outside and some guy was screaming at her like she had been beating our son and was going to call the cops. Drove her to tears.

If "leaving your child alone for a few minutes" is a crime, every parent on the planet would be in the slammer. Yes, there is neglect, but I think your are talking on the order of hours, not minutes.


Forget about a single parent taking a shower, and heaven forbid if the kid wakes up before you, better not mow that lawn while they're napping, et al.
2014-01-15 04:49:49 PM  
1 votes:
keys in the ignition?  engine running?   was she buying booze, cause when I've seen people leaving the engine running they're usually buying booze.   can't understand how someone could be in so much of a hurry that they leave the engine running.
2014-01-15 04:46:53 PM  
1 votes:
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-15 04:44:54 PM  
1 votes:
The judges thought she should have left the car unlocked and the windows rolled up, because locking the car and leaving the windows cracked were considered evidence of guilt. (Pages 10-11.)
2014-01-15 04:43:54 PM  
1 votes:
I remember sitting in the little half seat at the back of a station wagon.. the seat most likely only suitable for groceries. I used to think it was so cool. Now I realize if the car had been rear-ended I would have been a kid/car sandwich.

/Was also left alone in a car for what seemed like forever. Today's standards of parenting would have put most of our parents in prison back then. T'was a different time...
2014-01-15 04:43:43 PM  
1 votes:
That is farking ridiculous. I know my wife once parked the car in front of the library, walked 30 seconds to drop a book off at the drop bin came outside and some guy was screaming at her like she had been beating our son and was going to call the cops. Drove her to tears.

If "leaving your child alone for a few minutes" is a crime, every parent on the planet would be in the slammer. Yes, there is neglect, but I think your are talking on the order of hours, not minutes.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-15 04:42:28 PM  
1 votes:
Court decision (PDF)

The state tried to take all the woman's children away based solely on that incident.
2014-01-15 04:39:33 PM  
1 votes:
Hey a good court decision! When was the last time that happened?
2014-01-15 04:39:13 PM  
1 votes:
Are they in danger? No?
Are they afraid? No?
Is it 90 degrees with 80% humidity (or in AZ speak, 100+) no?
Then, mind your own farking business!
2014-01-15 04:37:16 PM  
1 votes:
sweet can I sue them now?
 
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