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(Some Guy)   Not news: Mississippi lawmaker proposes pants-on-head retarded gun law. News: This time it's a Democrat   (mississippigunnews.com) divider line 89
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2014-01-15 01:42:52 PM  
That's pants-on-head retarded alright.
 
2014-01-15 01:43:38 PM  

vygramul: That's pants-on-head retarded alright.


Somebody here will defend it.  "Commonsense" and "for the children"...
 
2014-01-15 01:47:15 PM  
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2014-01-15 01:53:57 PM  
https://www.facebook.com/omeria.scott

Typical Filthadelphia fan.
 
2014-01-15 02:30:54 PM  
Wow.  What a site.  I like how all the bad people on there are black.  Makes it more justified in their minds, I'm sure.
 
2014-01-15 02:38:17 PM  
I'm very concerned about this utterly doomed piece of legislation that will not be going anywhere but the trash.
 
2014-01-15 02:59:36 PM  
News: This time it's a Democrat

Isn't it usually a Democrat?
 
2014-01-15 04:23:11 PM  
A bit much.
 
2014-01-15 04:23:31 PM  
Yeah good idea put peoples SS numbers out there, nothing bad can happen from that.
 
2014-01-15 04:25:14 PM  
A local paper in NY posted the homa addresses of all registered gun owners.


I got a chuckle out of the derp resulting from that.
 
2014-01-15 04:26:04 PM  

Fark It: vygramul: That's pants-on-head retarded alright.

Somebody here will defend it.  "Commonsense" and "for the children"...


Sorry, even if your straw-liberals existed, it wouldn't mean much.
 
2014-01-15 04:26:14 PM  

vygramul: That's pants-on-head retarded alright.


What you said.

Relatively Obscure: I'm very concerned about this utterly doomed piece of legislation that will not be going anywhere but the trash.


Plenty of un-passable garbage from the GOP gets shredded on here (rightfully so) without dismissal like this.
 
2014-01-15 04:26:15 PM  

dittybopper: News: This time it's a Democrat

Isn't it usually a Democrat?


You sound like someone who believes abortions would be fewer in number if we were to arm fetuses.
 
2014-01-15 04:26:20 PM  
I can understand the desire to track ammunition purchases, even if I think it's idiotic for a number of reasons, but this was something a fifth grader could have done a better job of crafting.
 
2014-01-15 04:26:21 PM  
I think it's actually in violation of a federal law protecting your medical privacy. Go fig.
 
2014-01-15 04:27:01 PM  
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2014-01-15 04:27:43 PM  

r1niceboy: dittybopper: News: This time it's a Democrat

Isn't it usually a Democrat?

You sound like someone who believes abortions would be fewer in number if we were to arm fetuses.


I'm thinking he was framing it in context of it being a retarded gun law, not a retarded law.
 
2014-01-15 04:28:51 PM  
Oh god I read the comments, someone hold me :(
 
2014-01-15 04:29:29 PM  

r1niceboy: dittybopper: News: This time it's a Democrat

Isn't it usually a Democrat?

You sound like someone who believes abortions would be fewer in number if we were to arm fetuses.


I'm sorry, were you trying to sound snarkily intelligent?  Because you failed.
 
2014-01-15 04:29:35 PM  
This fat coont should have just come out and said she wanted to be called a dumbass. In any event, I'll oblige: you're a dumbass.

/ but you already knew that
 
2014-01-15 04:30:39 PM  
I looked up her bio, thought I saw  Ole Miss, and was bout to make an SEC academics joke, but then I remembered Ole Miss =/= Southern Miss.
 
2014-01-15 04:30:46 PM  
The difference being that this stupidity won't make it out of committee, while Republican gun-nut laws fly right through to the governor's desk.
 
2014-01-15 04:32:11 PM  

factoryconnection: Plenty of un-passable garbage from the GOP gets shredded on here (rightfully so) without dismissal like this.


Not from me, usually.  Other than to roll my eyes at the idea of continuing to put forward unpassable garbage.  I suppose there may be exceptions, though, you're right.  But this is still unpassable garbage and I'm still rolling my eyes at it.
 
2014-01-15 04:32:37 PM  

what_now: Oh god I read the comments, someone hold me :(


www.themonolith.com
 
2014-01-15 04:33:05 PM  
There is so much shame associated with gun ownership, I can see why so many cowardly gun owners would have a problem with this.
 
2014-01-15 04:33:14 PM  

Nick Nostril: This fat coont should have just come out and said she wanted to be called a dumbass. In any event, I'll oblige: you're a dumbass.

/ but you already knew that


She doesn't look terribly fat. Perhaps you were looking for another word.
 
2014-01-15 04:35:03 PM  
A. They elect Democrats in Mississippi?
B. Black Democrats?!
C. I love how Subby's link goes to a website that characterizes people as doing nothing but harming the state. That is quite the fair statement to make, isn't it?
D. The law seems retarded, but the website isn't exactly of the kind I would trust to tell the complete story.
 
2014-01-15 04:36:17 PM  

what_now: Oh god I read the comments, someone hold me :(


Could be worse. Imagine if you had to read through that Rep's email this week.
 
2014-01-15 04:36:38 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: There is so much shame associated with gun ownership, I can see why so many cowardly gun owners would have a problem with this.


Because giving out my social security number to people who may or may not give a damn about keeping it private should make me feel warm and fuzzy inside?

If troll then 8/10. You should have mentioned something about over compensating cowardly gun owners.
 
2014-01-15 04:38:14 PM  

maram500: A. They elect Democrats in Mississippi?
B. Black Democrats?!
C. I love how Subby's link goes to a website that characterizes people as doing nothing but harming the state. That is quite the fair statement to make, isn't it?
D. The law seems retarded, but the website isn't exactly of the kind I would trust to tell the complete story.


If you're *dying* to know the complete story, you can just click on the link to the bill in the story you clearly read:

http://www.mississippigunnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/HB-231- Am mo-Registration.pdf

I'll post the stupid part again.

SECTION 1. Every merchant, dealer or pawnbroker that sells 
6 pistol or rifle cartridges, shall keep a record of all sales of 
7 such cartridges sold, showing the description of the kind and 
8 caliber of cartridges so sold, the name, address and driver's 
9 license or social security number of the purchaser, and the 
10 description of and the quantity of cartridges and date of sale. 
11 This record shall be open to public inspection at any time to 
12 persons desiring to see it.


Even if you agree with the intent of the law, that's like an invitation to commit identity theft.
 
2014-01-15 04:38:21 PM  
Pants-on-head 'tarded?

Read TFA.

Oh yeah.  Pants-on-head 'tarded all right.
 
2014-01-15 04:38:42 PM  
So Mississippi would become the Target store of gun control?

/No pun intended.
//At least not initially.
 
2014-01-15 04:39:03 PM  
Publicizing SSN's?
Is someone trying to stop people from buying guns or ammo by threat of possible ID theft?
Is one law opening up to breaking another?

^^^ Cowardly gun owners?
Here's a nickel for some popcorn from the carnie wagon.
 
2014-01-15 04:39:14 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: There is so much shame associated with gun ownership, I can see why so many cowardly gun owners would have a problem with this.


There's so much shame associated with being a human, I can see why you like to vilify "others."
 
2014-01-15 04:41:18 PM  

dittybopper: News: This time it's a Democrat

Isn't it usually a Democrat?


Nope. Case in point: That clusterfark informally known as the Dick Act.
 
2014-01-15 04:41:29 PM  
Nice try shaniqua. Like the people that murder actually own their guns legally.
 
2014-01-15 04:44:19 PM  
I love how the website "quotes" Washington. Here's the full quote [emphasis mine]:

A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies. (First address to Congress, 8 January 1790)

Therefore, according to General Washington, gun owners should actually have some kind of regulation in the form of firearms education. And because gun owners should be educated about firearms and their use, Washington proposed that there should be legislation detailing what would be appropriate.

So just spouting off "Second Amendment!" and "Washington said everyone should have guns!" doesn't really hold up in the full context.
 
2014-01-15 04:44:25 PM  

tripleseven: Nick Nostril: This fat coont should have just come out and said she wanted to be called a dumbass. In any event, I'll oblige: you're a dumbass.

/ but you already knew that

She doesn't look terribly fat. Perhaps you were looking for another word.


Oh, that's right, I'm racist. Forgot.
 
2014-01-15 04:45:44 PM  
The other problems I have with this law are:

1) Minimum $100 - $1000 punishment for noncompliance. Means anyone can come into the store, demand to see the list, and get someone fined for refusal. Not many shop owners want people looking at their inventory receipts, let alone sales sheets along with critical PII.
2) How is the store supposed to keep the information? Is it in a bound book like an FFL needs for guns? Is it okay to just have an Access DB?
3) Is this information given to a centralized police DB to help solve crimes? Is it meant for just the police alone to view? If it's in a bound book kept on the store premise, it's not much more useful than a CC or sales receipt.

Basically this law might have some public safety benefits in the eyes of the sponsor, but it's the equivalent of what blacked out college senior draws on a bar napkin to convince hammered alumni to give him startup money for his business.
 
2014-01-15 04:47:30 PM  
Not afraid:

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...also willing to sell you his service from a handy kiosk at every gun store in Mississippi
 
2014-01-15 04:51:42 PM  

what_now: Oh god I read the comments, someone hold me :(


Thought you'd never ask!

/God bless Omeria!
 
2014-01-15 04:51:52 PM  

LesserEvil: Not afraid:

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...also willing to sell you his service from a handy kiosk at every gun store in Mississippi


Nor should he be afraid. No reason to be
 
2014-01-15 04:52:19 PM  

groppet: Yeah good idea put peoples SS numbers out there, nothing bad can happen from that.


And the fact that they have a gun/ammunition.  May as well just put them on a map and leave copies at every urban liquor store.  Good way to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.
 
2014-01-15 04:54:59 PM  

maram500: A. They elect Democrats in Mississippi?
B. Black Democrats?!
C. I love how Subby's link goes to a website that characterizes people as doing nothing but harming the state. That is quite the fair statement to make, isn't it?
D. The law seems retarded, but the website isn't exactly of the kind I would trust to tell the complete story.


A/B: They're required to draw black-majority districts because of the Voting Rights Act. It works out great for Deep South Republicans, because they wind up with a Democratic minority that they can ignore with impunity. Most of the white Democrats either switched parties or got gerrymandered out of existence.
 
2014-01-15 05:00:32 PM  

maram500: I love how the website "quotes" Washington. Here's the full quote [emphasis mine]:

A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies. (First address to Congress, 8 January 1790)

Therefore, according to General Washington, gun owners should actually have some kind of regulation in the form of firearms education. And because gun owners should be educated about firearms and their use, Washington proposed that there should be legislation detailing what would be appropriate.

So just spouting off "Second Amendment!" and "Washington said everyone should have guns!" doesn't really hold up in the full context.


Being "armed" in the 18th Century sense pretty much never meant, "one dude with one gun," because flintlock muskets are virtually useless unless used en masse. The people's right to keep and bear arms was intended to allow them to form armed companies for mutual defense, not to carry personal firearms willy nilly.
 
2014-01-15 05:02:34 PM  
mississippigunnews.com

......those comments........
imgdonkey.com
aaand IM OUT!
 
2014-01-15 05:03:21 PM  
Trolltastic, subby.
But completely unnecessary.
All gun threads are automatically troll threads.
 
2014-01-15 05:05:51 PM  
Don't all democrats propose pants-on-head retarded gun laws?
 
2014-01-15 05:07:21 PM  
I'm fine with this as long as we do the same for women who get abortions.  lol, etc.
 
2014-01-15 05:10:09 PM  

mbillips: maram500: I love how the website "quotes" Washington. Here's the full quote [emphasis mine]:

A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies. (First address to Congress, 8 January 1790)

Therefore, according to General Washington, gun owners should actually have some kind of regulation in the form of firearms education. And because gun owners should be educated about firearms and their use, Washington proposed that there should be legislation detailing what would be appropriate.

So just spouting off "Second Amendment!" and "Washington said everyone should have guns!" doesn't really hold up in the full context.

Being "armed" in the 18th Century sense pretty much never meant, "one dude with one gun," because flintlock muskets are virtually useless unless used en masse. The people's right to keep and bear arms was intended to allow them to form armed companies for mutual defense, not to carry personal firearms willy nilly.


Eh depends on who you ask. Several states explicitly mention self-defense in their version of the 2nd amendment in the 18th century or very soon thereafter (Vermont, New Hampshire, Kentucky, CT, Alabama, PA). Those are all 1820 or before. If you go up to 1850 or so there a few more I'm too lazy to list.

http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/beararms/statecon.htm
 
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