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(Huffington Post)   Obama expected to rein in domestic spying program started by the Bush administration. Both sides still bad   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 24
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686 clicks; posted to Politics » on 15 Jan 2014 at 1:37 PM (40 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-01-15 12:51:01 PM  
5 votes:
He isn't going to rein in squat.  The NSA does what the NSA wants.
2014-01-15 01:43:15 PM  
3 votes:
I'm glad we finally put a Democrat in charge, so we could start openly critiquing the office of the President and expect some reasonable changes again.  It's hard living under a Republican administration, when they absorb every power they can through any means legal or otherwise, and you are branded a "terrorist sympathizer" if you speak out against it.
2014-01-15 01:15:32 PM  
3 votes:
And now, in a few days, expect the spin machine to begin again. "OBAMA WANTS TO OPEN COUNTRY UP TO TERRORIST ATTACKS AND CHINESE RUSSIAN INVASIONS BY CRIPPLING NSA! THAT AND MORE AFTER OUR SPONSORS MESSAGES!"

madmikesamerica.com
2014-01-15 11:10:31 AM  
3 votes:
I'll believe it when it happens
2014-01-15 01:53:39 PM  
2 votes:

winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.


Well, they tried moving Gitmo detainees to the U.S. to stand trial, and the birthbaggers started pissing their pants, claiming Supermax prisons weren't strong enough to detain those unholy killing machines.
2014-01-15 01:47:55 PM  
2 votes:
Rein! Rein! Not "reign," you illiterate bastard! Rein!
2014-01-15 01:45:20 PM  
2 votes:
 Let us not forget that a mere 40 years ago we had a president of the United States who completely disregarded the law in an effort to destroy his political opponents. In my view, the information collected by the NSA has the potential to give an unscrupulous administration enormous power over elected officials," Sanders said.
2014-01-15 01:11:26 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: And when that fails there's always the "hey this girl you're having sex with in these pictures looks nothing like your wife" angle.


Yup. The NSA knows exactly what you did to get your brother in law our of a DUI, they know about your freaky sex habits, they know everything.

We all have secrets, but I suspect that any high level politician has much, much dirtier ones than I have.
2014-01-15 12:56:15 PM  
2 votes:
Ah, the entirely predictable bucket of lukewarm spit guaranteed to amount to very little. Not that the president's commission was exactly bold in its suggested reforms in the first place, but the president has now officially made it the radical, civil liberties position, while he's the proverbial grown-up in the room brokering a "deal" between the constitution and the surveillance state. Then it will be the congressional crazies' turn to water it down even more. Link
2014-01-15 12:53:09 PM  
2 votes:

Gunny Highway: Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.

Isnt this a case of the NSA/intelligence community guys saying, "do you want to have a terrorist attack on US soil and not do everything you can to stop it" and politicians getting bullied into going along with policy?

/gross over simplification I know


And when that fails there's always the "hey this girl you're having sex with in these pictures looks nothing like your wife" angle.
2014-01-15 11:43:27 AM  
2 votes:

Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.


Isnt this a case of the NSA/intelligence community guys saying, "do you want to have a terrorist attack on US soil and not do everything you can to stop it" and politicians getting bullied into going along with policy?

/gross over simplification I know
2014-01-15 11:27:05 AM  
2 votes:
or "rein in."
2014-01-15 11:15:17 AM  
2 votes:
NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.
2014-01-15 04:57:54 PM  
1 votes:
He's been in office 5 years, but ya, BUSH BUSH BUSH....
2014-01-15 02:25:42 PM  
1 votes:
Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.
2014-01-15 02:01:03 PM  
1 votes:
Too bad Snowden just didn't stay in the country to face the torture... er music.. they wouldn't have to even be talking about this now.
2014-01-15 01:52:13 PM  
1 votes:

winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.


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2014-01-15 01:48:30 PM  
1 votes:
Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.
2014-01-15 01:44:53 PM  
1 votes:

NeverDrunk23: Even if it was made 100% illegal in all case, will it stop?


baby steps like not funding this would be an improvement

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Change the law but also defund the capacity and capability.
2014-01-15 01:42:15 PM  
1 votes:
Even if it was made 100% illegal in all case, will it stop?
2014-01-15 01:42:05 PM  
1 votes:
Until the next big terrorist attack. Then the people will complain government isn't protecting us enough.

\Fox news will scream it the loudest.
2014-01-15 01:10:28 PM  
1 votes:
He's punting to Congress and the telecoms.  These aren't even breadcrumbs.
2014-01-15 01:02:24 PM  
1 votes:
End of spying, eh?

So they're moving on to the next synonym?
2014-01-15 12:03:23 PM  
1 votes:

Gunny Highway: Isnt this a case of the NSA/intelligence community guys saying, "do you want to have a terrorist attack on US soil and not do everything you can to stop it" and politicians getting bullied into going along with policy?


I think there is also a lot of people in the intelligence community who feel that politicians come and go, but they'll be there to oversee the process regardless of elections.

Once we start sending some of these people to jail, we'll see some changes. Not before that.
 
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