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(Huffington Post)   Obama expected to rein in domestic spying program started by the Bush administration. Both sides still bad   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 75
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2014-01-15 11:10:31 AM
I'll believe it when it happens
 
2014-01-15 11:15:17 AM
NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.
 
2014-01-15 11:27:05 AM
or "rein in."
 
2014-01-15 11:35:58 AM
Did anybody read that as "Obama expected to resign..."?
 
2014-01-15 11:43:27 AM

Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.


Isnt this a case of the NSA/intelligence community guys saying, "do you want to have a terrorist attack on US soil and not do everything you can to stop it" and politicians getting bullied into going along with policy?

/gross over simplification I know
 
2014-01-15 11:52:03 AM
REIGN ON MEEEE

/sorry.
 
2014-01-15 12:03:23 PM

Gunny Highway: Isnt this a case of the NSA/intelligence community guys saying, "do you want to have a terrorist attack on US soil and not do everything you can to stop it" and politicians getting bullied into going along with policy?


I think there is also a lot of people in the intelligence community who feel that politicians come and go, but they'll be there to oversee the process regardless of elections.

Once we start sending some of these people to jail, we'll see some changes. Not before that.
 
2014-01-15 12:51:01 PM
He isn't going to rein in squat.  The NSA does what the NSA wants.
 
2014-01-15 12:53:09 PM

Gunny Highway: Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.

Isnt this a case of the NSA/intelligence community guys saying, "do you want to have a terrorist attack on US soil and not do everything you can to stop it" and politicians getting bullied into going along with policy?

/gross over simplification I know


And when that fails there's always the "hey this girl you're having sex with in these pictures looks nothing like your wife" angle.
 
2014-01-15 12:56:15 PM
Ah, the entirely predictable bucket of lukewarm spit guaranteed to amount to very little. Not that the president's commission was exactly bold in its suggested reforms in the first place, but the president has now officially made it the radical, civil liberties position, while he's the proverbial grown-up in the room brokering a "deal" between the constitution and the surveillance state. Then it will be the congressional crazies' turn to water it down even more. Link
 
2014-01-15 01:02:24 PM
End of spying, eh?

So they're moving on to the next synonym?
 
2014-01-15 01:10:28 PM
He's punting to Congress and the telecoms.  These aren't even breadcrumbs.
 
2014-01-15 01:11:26 PM

Marcus Aurelius: And when that fails there's always the "hey this girl you're having sex with in these pictures looks nothing like your wife" angle.


Yup. The NSA knows exactly what you did to get your brother in law our of a DUI, they know about your freaky sex habits, they know everything.

We all have secrets, but I suspect that any high level politician has much, much dirtier ones than I have.
 
2014-01-15 01:15:32 PM
And now, in a few days, expect the spin machine to begin again. "OBAMA WANTS TO OPEN COUNTRY UP TO TERRORIST ATTACKS AND CHINESE RUSSIAN INVASIONS BY CRIPPLING NSA! THAT AND MORE AFTER OUR SPONSORS MESSAGES!"

madmikesamerica.com
 
2014-01-15 01:42:05 PM
Until the next big terrorist attack. Then the people will complain government isn't protecting us enough.

\Fox news will scream it the loudest.
 
2014-01-15 01:42:15 PM
Even if it was made 100% illegal in all case, will it stop?
 
2014-01-15 01:42:28 PM
I need an angle sympathetic to my political beliefs so I can avoid thinking about how farked up this NSA spying is.
 
2014-01-15 01:43:15 PM
I'm glad we finally put a Democrat in charge, so we could start openly critiquing the office of the President and expect some reasonable changes again.  It's hard living under a Republican administration, when they absorb every power they can through any means legal or otherwise, and you are branded a "terrorist sympathizer" if you speak out against it.
 
2014-01-15 01:43:37 PM

Cletus C.: I need an angle sympathetic to my political beliefs so I can avoid thinking about how farked up this NSA spying is.


Yes, and the fact that there is no way under the sun to stop it no matter who gets elected
 
2014-01-15 01:43:52 PM

FlashHarry: or "rein in."


This.  Oh so very this.
 
2014-01-15 01:44:53 PM

NeverDrunk23: Even if it was made 100% illegal in all case, will it stop?


baby steps like not funding this would be an improvement

static4.businessinsider.com

Change the law but also defund the capacity and capability.
 
2014-01-15 01:45:20 PM
 Let us not forget that a mere 40 years ago we had a president of the United States who completely disregarded the law in an effort to destroy his political opponents. In my view, the information collected by the NSA has the potential to give an unscrupulous administration enormous power over elected officials," Sanders said.
 
2014-01-15 01:45:31 PM
Is this the thread (one of many) where Potato-Americans come in and claim that liberals are being unfairly sympathetic to Obama despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
 
2014-01-15 01:47:23 PM

Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.


THIS.

Oh my God!  He's going to change the way they collect phone records!  Our long national nightmare is over!

Submittard....
 
2014-01-15 01:47:46 PM

Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton.


The hell? Not familiar with the Church Committee, I take it?
 
2014-01-15 01:47:55 PM
Rein! Rein! Not "reign," you illiterate bastard! Rein!
 
2014-01-15 01:48:30 PM
Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.
 
2014-01-15 01:49:11 PM
Anyone else read "resign" instead of "reign in"?

Expected to see Sarah Putin becomes mayor of Toronto as a result.  Yes she does know what a Loonie is. Her health care provider is the Yukon government.
 
2014-01-15 01:52:13 PM

winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.


facepalm.jpg
 
2014-01-15 01:53:39 PM

winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.


Well, they tried moving Gitmo detainees to the U.S. to stand trial, and the birthbaggers started pissing their pants, claiming Supermax prisons weren't strong enough to detain those unholy killing machines.
 
2014-01-15 01:53:55 PM
Please not that record collection will still continue, that you have no privacy.
 
2014-01-15 01:54:34 PM

winterbraid: This farker isn't holding his breath.


Try doing it with your head in the toilet.
 
2014-01-15 01:56:39 PM
This is the one problem I have with this administration: they're lousy when it comes to privacy rights.
 
2014-01-15 02:01:03 PM
Too bad Snowden just didn't stay in the country to face the torture... er music.. they wouldn't have to even be talking about this now.
 
2014-01-15 02:07:50 PM
Started by who(m)???

gifs.gifmania.co.il
 
2014-01-15 02:16:38 PM

NeverDrunk23: Even if it was made 100% illegal in all case, will it stop?


Only if we nuke every NSA facility.
 
2014-01-15 02:18:29 PM

Headso: Too bad Snowden just didn't stay in the country to face the torture... er music.. they wouldn't have to even be talking about this now.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-15 02:19:03 PM
That tears it, I'm never voting for Obama again.
 
2014-01-15 02:19:55 PM

winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.


Same. I'm expecting a flaccid speech that doesn't acknowledge the scope of the Snowden leaks and sincere promises treat our "metadata" with more respect in their cutesy secret courts.

/he could have closed gitmo via executive order you politically convenient tools
 
2014-01-15 02:24:03 PM

SpacePirate: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

Same. I'm expecting a flaccid speech that doesn't acknowledge the scope of the Snowden leaks and sincere promises treat our "metadata" with more respect in their cutesy secret courts.

/he could have closed gitmo via executive order you politically convenient tools


And done what with the inmates? Pop them on a raft and push them away from the dock with an "off you go, then"? How about when Congress refuses to provide any funding for rafts?
 
2014-01-15 02:25:42 PM
Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.
 
2014-01-15 02:26:50 PM
Obama expected to reign in domestic spying info leakers.

FTFY
 
2014-01-15 02:27:42 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.


Irregardless, you know what they meant.
 
2014-01-15 02:29:10 PM

BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.

Irregardless, you know what they meant.


Supposubly.

:)
 
2014-01-15 02:33:27 PM

qorkfiend: SpacePirate: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

Same. I'm expecting a flaccid speech that doesn't acknowledge the scope of the Snowden leaks and sincere promises treat our "metadata" with more respect in their cutesy secret courts.

/he could have closed gitmo via executive order you politically convenient tools

And done what with the inmates? Pop them on a raft and push them away from the dock with an "off you go, then"? How about when Congress refuses to provide any funding for rafts?


a bunch of people who were turned in by their neighbors for reward money will be sent back to Afghanistan?
 
2014-01-15 02:34:12 PM

winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.


How, exactly, would you like him to do that? Please be specific.
 
2014-01-15 02:35:50 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.

Irregardless, you know what they meant.

Supposubly.

:)


You guys should of studied more.
 
2014-01-15 02:40:42 PM

Headso: qorkfiend: SpacePirate: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

Same. I'm expecting a flaccid speech that doesn't acknowledge the scope of the Snowden leaks and sincere promises treat our "metadata" with more respect in their cutesy secret courts.

/he could have closed gitmo via executive order you politically convenient tools

And done what with the inmates? Pop them on a raft and push them away from the dock with an "off you go, then"? How about when Congress refuses to provide any funding for rafts?

a bunch of people who were turned in by their neighbors for reward money will be sent back to Afghanistan?


By whom? No money appropriated for transportation, no guarantee that they won't be arrested or tortured when they get back to Afghanistan (which means that repatriating them would be in violation of US law), no other country that will agree to that precondition is willing to take them, explicitly barred from transferring them to US soil and trying them in civilian courts...
 
2014-01-15 02:41:22 PM

BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.

Irregardless, you know what they meant.


Oh you are the worst kind of person. Its still not as bad as "arguably" or "concerning"
 
2014-01-15 02:45:20 PM

qorkfiend: Headso: qorkfiend: SpacePirate: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

Same. I'm expecting a flaccid speech that doesn't acknowledge the scope of the Snowden leaks and sincere promises treat our "metadata" with more respect in their cutesy secret courts.

/he could have closed gitmo via executive order you politically convenient tools

And done what with the inmates? Pop them on a raft and push them away from the dock with an "off you go, then"? How about when Congress refuses to provide any funding for rafts?

a bunch of people who were turned in by their neighbors for reward money will be sent back to Afghanistan?

By whom? No money appropriated for transportation, no guarantee that they won't be arrested or tortured when they get back to Afghanistan (which means that repatriating them would be in violation of US law), no other country that will agree to that precondition is willing to take them, explicitly barred from transferring them to US soil and trying them in civilian courts...


The military doesn't need money appropriated to move people from one military base to the other and come on violating US law? like holding people without trial for years on end or torturing them? Since when are they concerned about that when it comes to these detainees.
 
2014-01-15 02:52:30 PM

s2s2s2: Obama expected to reign in domestic spying info leakers.

FTFY


Obama is seeking to be the leader in a group called "Domestic Spying Info Leakers"?

//in case it hasn't been mentioned in this thread 47 god damn times earlier, rein =/= reign.
 
2014-01-15 02:57:47 PM

Headso: qorkfiend: Headso: qorkfiend: SpacePirate: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

Same. I'm expecting a flaccid speech that doesn't acknowledge the scope of the Snowden leaks and sincere promises treat our "metadata" with more respect in their cutesy secret courts.

/he could have closed gitmo via executive order you politically convenient tools

And done what with the inmates? Pop them on a raft and push them away from the dock with an "off you go, then"? How about when Congress refuses to provide any funding for rafts?

a bunch of people who were turned in by their neighbors for reward money will be sent back to Afghanistan?

By whom? No money appropriated for transportation, no guarantee that they won't be arrested or tortured when they get back to Afghanistan (which means that repatriating them would be in violation of US law), no other country that will agree to that precondition is willing to take them, explicitly barred from transferring them to US soil and trying them in civilian courts...

The military doesn't need money appropriated to move people from one military base to the other and come on violating US law? like holding people without trial for years on end or torturing them? Since when are they concerned about that when it comes to these detainees.


Ok, we would have moved them where (some military prison, presumably) and done what with them? All you'd be doing is moving Guantanamo to Ft. Leavenworth and claiming "problem solved".

And yes, contrary to your assertion, the military does need money appropriated to do things. You can also be certain that particular sections of Congress would be very "concerned" about the President violating US law.

It was a political question, but the outcome of that political question has resulted in very real legal hurdles which can't be hand-waved away with a "he should have just done X".
 
2014-01-15 03:01:59 PM

ScaryBottles: BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.

Irregardless, you know what they meant.

Oh you are the worst kind of person. Its still not as bad as "arguably" or "concerning"


Fair warning: one day I'm going to hijack an entire Fark thread and devote it to my horror at the recent trend of using an adjective when an adverb is called for. If you think my little joke here is sufficient to justify your conclusion (correct, as it happens) that I am indeed the worst kind of person, you are sadly mistaken. I am literally the Adolph Hitler of grammar Nazis.

/literally
 
2014-01-15 03:04:24 PM

coeyagi: s2s2s2: Obama expected to reign in domestic spying info leakers.

FTFY

Obama is seeking to be the leader in a group called "Domestic Spying Info Leakers"?

//in case it hasn't been mentioned in this thread 47 god damn times earlier, rein =/= reign.


I copied/pasted it from the headline*. Of course, that doesn't change the fact I didn't correct the spelling. Truly, I stand here, humbled. Thank you, Coe. You have saved me.

*before the headline was changed.
 
2014-01-15 03:06:45 PM

Evil High Priest: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

How, exactly, would you like him to do that? Please be specific.


Just send them all back to their home countries, he can get them with a drone later.
 
2014-01-15 03:08:21 PM

s2s2s2: coeyagi: s2s2s2: Obama expected to reign in domestic spying info leakers.

FTFY

Obama is seeking to be the leader in a group called "Domestic Spying Info Leakers"?

//in case it hasn't been mentioned in this thread 47 god damn times earlier, rein =/= reign.

I copied/pasted it from the headline*. Of course, that doesn't change the fact I didn't correct the spelling. Truly, I stand here, humbled. Thank you, Coe. You have saved me.

*before the headline was changed.


Sarcasm notwithstaning, you're welcome.  Here to help.
 
2014-01-15 03:12:22 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.


Hey, this ain't a libary.
 
2014-01-15 03:29:46 PM
What are the proposed changes? I didnt read the article.

And I doubt it will matter, anyway. The NSA is like Cartman and it does what it wants.
 
2014-01-15 03:31:41 PM

fatandolder: Evil High Priest: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

How, exactly, would you like him to do that? Please be specific.

Just send them all back to their home countries, he can get them with a drone later.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-may-soon-be-able-close-gitmo
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/closing-guantanamo

If the Senate passes the NDAA, the transfer process would no longer include some of the most onerous restrictions. Right now, the NDAA bans the transfer of prisoners to the United States in order to stand trial in a civilian court. It also requires that the Secretary of Defense be able to certify that a detainee will not do anything after their release that would threaten national security, an impossible standard to meet. The new NDAA would remove the ban on bringing prisoners here for trial or medical treatment.
 
2014-01-15 03:34:55 PM

stoli n coke: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.

Hey, this ain't a libary.

 Hey, loose the attitude there buddy.
 
2014-01-15 04:57:54 PM
He's been in office 5 years, but ya, BUSH BUSH BUSH....
 
2014-01-15 04:58:54 PM

s2s2s2: Satan's Bunny Slippers: BMulligan: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Can we please stop using "reign" for "rein"?  The two do not mean the same.  It's been occurring far too often here lately.

Thank you.

Irregardless, you know what they meant.

Supposubly.

:)

You guys should of studied more.


I think they took good grammar for granite.
 
2014-01-15 05:07:03 PM

Stoner Mike: He's been in office 5 years, but ya, BUSH BUSH BUSH....


He's been busy, what with all the not-closing Gitmo and all.
 
2014-01-15 05:16:14 PM
Yeah, Obama came into office learned of these programs (?) and didn't do shiat about them. Snowden makes it a national debate (if not a global one) and only after all that does Obama say that he's maybe thinking about making a few changes. So don't act surprised when someone scoffs at the notion that Obama is actually some kind of Bil of Rights reformer.
 
2014-01-15 05:18:30 PM

Gunny Highway: Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.

Isnt this a case of the NSA/intelligence community guys saying, "do you want to have a terrorist attack on US soil and not do everything you can to stop it" and politicians getting bullied into going along with policy?

/gross over simplification I know


Not at all. It's really as simple as that.
 
2014-01-15 05:22:54 PM

Evil High Priest: winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.

How, exactly, would you like him to do that? Please be specific.


Obama can't do it because fire can't melt steel.
 
2014-01-15 05:34:02 PM

Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.


I doubt that. Harry S Truman created the NSA to specifically deal with the threat of communism. I highly doubt there wasn't any spying going on domestically, especially since most people had no idea the NSA even existed. Here's how Truman defined their mission as "to defeat terrorists and their organizations at home and abroad, consistent with U.S. laws and the protection of privacy and civil liberties." [emphasis mine]
 
2014-01-15 06:49:17 PM

jigger: Yeah, Obama came into office learned of these programs (?) and didn't do shiat about them. Snowden makes it a national debate (if not a global one) and only after all that does Obama say that he's maybe thinking about making a few changes. So don't act surprised when someone scoffs at the notion that Obama is actually some kind of Bil of Rights reformer.


What do you expect from a Constitutional scholar, knowledge of the Constitution?
 
2014-01-15 07:34:28 PM

qorkfiend: And done what with the inmates? Pop them on a raft and push them away from the dock with an "off you go, then"? How about when Congress refuses to provide any funding for rafts?


Go eyeball to eyeball with Congress: "Fine then; I'll grant al Qaeda free passage to pick them up since you're unwilling to do the right thing"

Congress would blink.
 
2014-01-15 08:33:19 PM
He said the same thing when he was campaigning in '08 and sat on his ass for a term and a half before having his and forced by Snowden. I fully expect this to take at least until his 3rd term.
 
2014-01-15 08:51:28 PM

winterbraid: Obama was also expected to close gitmo. This farker isn't holding his breath.


You don't even have to go this far.

He promised to rein in domestic spying programs when he was still campaigning on hope and change and ended up letting a gigantic NSA data warehouse program move forward and continued data gathering.  Now I see people singing praises about him begrudgingly making the same promises againafter his administration got caught red handed.

It's like a weird mix of memory loss and Stockholm syndrome.
 
2014-01-16 02:42:35 AM

DeaH: Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.

I doubt that. Harry S Truman created the NSA to specifically deal with the threat of communism. I highly doubt there wasn't any spying going on domestically, especially since most people had no idea the NSA even existed. Here's how Truman defined their mission as "to defeat terrorists and their organizations at home and abroad, consistent with U.S. laws and the protection of privacy and civil liberties." [emphasis mine]


Yep. At best, maybe the NSA will do something symbolic, then just increase the secrecy and be pickier about their security.

The invasion of privacy sucks, but it's been here for ages, and it's not going anywhere until America stops electing authoritarians. I am, however. pleasantly surprised that the NSA hasn't left the popular consciousness by now. I figured the public would've been distracted by some other, fresher 'scandal' by now. And, although it's a small one, pressuring the President to even make a *show* of 'reining in' the NSA is a good first step. They know that Americans have a limit, and they won't stop paying attention quite as fast as they used to.

It's not much, but it's a start.
 
2014-01-16 08:19:06 AM
Why won't Obama do anything?

Omg! Obama is doing something, what a dictator


/duuuurrrrp
 
2014-01-16 09:13:26 AM

LordJiro: DeaH: Nabb1: NSA domestic spying originally started back in the mid-1990's under Clinton. Then it got expanded with both incarnations of the Patriot Act, the second of which Obama voted on. When it comes to this stuff, yes, both sides have been fairly bad about respecting the rights of citizens in the name of security.

I doubt that. Harry S Truman created the NSA to specifically deal with the threat of communism. I highly doubt there wasn't any spying going on domestically, especially since most people had no idea the NSA even existed. Here's how Truman defined their mission as "to defeat terrorists and their organizations at home and abroad, consistent with U.S. laws and the protection of privacy and civil liberties." [emphasis mine]

Yep. At best, maybe the NSA will do something symbolic, then just increase the secrecy and be pickier about their security.

The invasion of privacy sucks, but it's been here for ages, and it's not going anywhere until America stops electing authoritarians. I am, however. pleasantly surprised that the NSA hasn't left the popular consciousness by now. I figured the public would've been distracted by some other, fresher 'scandal' by now. And, although it's a small one, pressuring the President to even make a *show* of 'reining in' the NSA is a good first step. They know that Americans have a limit, and they won't stop paying attention quite as fast as they used to.

It's not much, but it's a start.


At this point, I am not sure elections will have much or any impact on the NSA. The NSA has gone SkyNet. It's a separate government, and our elected officials have very little impact on them at all.
 
2014-01-16 10:17:47 AM

tbhouston: Why won't Obama do anything?

Omg! Obama is doing something, what a dictator


/duuuurrrrp


He's been in office for five years and only started doing this now after facing criticism from both sides.

/duuuurrrrrp
 
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