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2014-01-15 10:19:07 AM
I recognized that style when I watched the pilot, though it is actually closer to a very early 1990s future than to a "1980s future".

/See Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon for a very 1980s future.
 
2014-01-15 10:29:41 AM
That's a rather pedantic way to say "they did the special effects on the cheap."
 
2014-01-15 10:33:29 AM
It's OK as far as network programming goes.  I don't feel lacking if I miss an episode or two.

The thing that gets me is how disjointed the development of technology is.  They've largely perfected both artificial intelligence and androids, artificial limbs that are operated by thought, mini-force fields that contain bomb blasts, and they're still using physical projectile weapons.

But the leads and their chemistry are fun.
 
2014-01-15 10:34:52 AM
I tried to like the show.

I keep expecting Gene Simmons to pop us as a villain.
 
2014-01-15 10:35:55 AM
It's also not very good.
 
2014-01-15 10:47:49 AM
My mullet & I rather enjoy the show (being meta & all).
I'm also finding the new (80's) direction of Archer totally rad.
 
2014-01-15 10:48:45 AM

Diogenes: The thing that gets me is how disjointed the development of technology is. They've largely perfected both artificial intelligence and androids, artificial limbs that are operated by thought, mini-force fields that contain bomb blasts, and they're still using physical projectile weapons.


And driving regular cars.  I do enjoy the show, though.  It's just fun.
 
2014-01-15 10:51:07 AM
I've like Urban in both Star Trek and Dredd, so I gave the show a try. I'm generally willing to overlook problems in a pilot because I've seen plenty of good shows with shaky pilots, but that second episode they ran (which was actually supposed to the the fifth episode) really put me off. The whole thing of hooking women up to tubes that slowly drain them to steal their DNA was just about the dumbest plot device I've seen in science fiction in a very long time. It's like it was so stupid they didn't even try to explain why such a contrivance would be necessary. All of this apart from the fact that even before I read that this was supposed to be the fifth episode it was really obvious that they'd skipped way forward in the relationship between the leads. It just suddenly jumped from "tolerance with a little grudging respect" at the end of the pilot to "good buddies with a background and inside jokes." After watching the third episode which basically lifted the plot of Die Hard, I was done.
 
2014-01-15 10:52:04 AM
I thought it was an updated version of Holmes & Yo-Yo from the 70's.
 
2014-01-15 10:54:44 AM
So wait a minute, this isn't an inferior American redo of a British show about a vampire, a werewolf and a ghost sharing a house?
 
2014-01-15 11:03:14 AM

Calmamity: So wait a minute, this isn't an inferior American redo of a British show about a vampire, a werewolf and a ghost sharing a house?


You are thinking of "Human Target".
 
2014-01-15 11:08:21 AM
I'm not asking for a big overcomplicated story arc, but I'd like a little bit of continuity.  It's an interesting setup, but "buddy cop adventure of the week, BTW one of them has super robot powers" is starting to wear off.

Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.
 
2014-01-15 11:18:27 AM

serial_crusher: Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.


And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."
 
2014-01-15 11:21:43 AM

Diogenes: serial_crusher: Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.

And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."


And just as quickly as that setup was introduced they blew it up.
 
2014-01-15 11:25:57 AM

Nefarious: Diogenes: serial_crusher: Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.

And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."

And just as quickly as that setup was introduced they blew it up.


LOL.

I'll give it a few more tries before I decide to bail.  Seems extremely derivative of The Six Million Dollar man among other things.
 
2014-01-15 11:39:12 AM
It is an updated version of Max Headroom, though with the consequences of power being addressed by cops, as opposed to being exposed by a journalist, and his chaos inspired AI companion. Yeah, it's very much a classic sort of 80s cyberpunk inspired motif, but then again, that's classic now. It's got a similar vibe as the Canadian Continuum, but with far less evolved tech in most areas, but the theme of corporations and folks abusing technology is similar.

Science fiction is filled with cautionary tales about consequences. Simply because you can, doesn't mean you should. One of the enduring themes is that humanity can change its capabilities through tech, but until we develop a better sense of responsibility, that will only open more avenues for abuses, and with far reaching consequences.

I'm digging the show, perhaps because it is digging back a bit to a more Gibsonesque future, as opposed to a shining city on the hill sort of future. Then again, I grew up on Gibson and Sterling, and poring through Fact Sheet Five and Mondo2000 and the actual print version of bOING bOING. I even wear my "Get Illuminated" Karma Sutra t-shirt on occasion, so the whole thing is actually kind of comforting. Kind of like how Kurt Wimmer's Equilibrium hearkened back to that "style over substance" tone of broad strokes to get the point across with panache to counterpoint the dire consequences.
 
2014-01-15 11:40:10 AM

2wolves: I tried to like the show.

I keep expecting Gene Simmons to pop us as a villain.


That's kind of what they are going for.


Diogenes: The thing that gets me is how disjointed the development of technology is. They've largely perfected both artificial intelligence and androids, artificial limbs that are operated by thought, mini-force fields that contain bomb blasts, and they're still using physical projectile weapons.


I think that's kind of the way things would develop. Of course there are AI and androids! Porn always cuts into new tech. Sex-bots and all! And if you notice most of the new tech is consumer based. Which makes sense, that's where the money is at. Now, the force field is the out-layer. I don't know how to explain that.

Diogenes: And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."


just so long as they don't upgrade the chip to start giving him physical abilities. I liked Chuck and all, but I don't want a rehash.

and oh sweet lord:

img40.imageshack.us

Athletic
long hair brunette
looks like she can kick arse
got a good level of snark about her
and last espionage they dropped her into a black tank top and a tight pair of jeans?!

Someone found my Christmas list and checked all the boxes...
 
2014-01-15 11:41:12 AM
Overall, I like the show....it's been interesting and entertaining.  Some plots work better than others, but I appreciate the effort.
 
2014-01-15 11:52:16 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: And if you notice most of the new tech is consumer based. Which makes sense, that's where the money is at.


Good point.  And it is pretty dystopian.
 
2014-01-15 11:52:30 AM

Diogenes: It's OK as far as network programming goes.  I don't feel lacking if I miss an episode or two.

The thing that gets me is how disjointed the development of technology is.  They've largely perfected both artificial intelligence and androids, artificial limbs that are operated by thought, mini-force fields that contain bomb blasts, and they're still using physical projectile weapons.

But the leads and their chemistry are fun.


I thought about that watching the last episode where a guy was shot in a train station (or something like that.) Not only was he shot with a bullet (albeit a futuristic microchip-guided bullet) but the bystanders in the station were reading newspapers. Sure, they were 'futuristic' plastic-digital-virtual newspapers, but they weren't tablets or some such device, they were actual turn-the-page newspapers.
 
2014-01-15 11:55:00 AM

Diogenes: Nefarious: Diogenes: serial_crusher: Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.

And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."

And just as quickly as that setup was introduced they blew it up.

LOL.

I'll give it a few more tries before I decide to bail.  Seems extremely derivative of The Six Million Dollar man among other things.


Actually, I thought it was a more serious version of 'Chuck.'
 
2014-01-15 11:55:44 AM

Calmamity: So wait a minute, this isn't an inferior American redo of a British show about a vampire, a werewolf and a ghost sharing a house?


The American version of Being Human us superior to the BBC version (after season 2) by orders of magnitude, as the latter has now jumped the shark. Twice. It has jumped the Sharcano.
 
2014-01-15 11:56:22 AM
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I have been led to believe that in the future we will all be driving 2013 Ford Taurus's.
 
2014-01-15 11:56:39 AM
Is. Bah
 
2014-01-15 11:57:32 AM

propasaurus: Diogenes: Nefarious: Diogenes: serial_crusher: Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.

And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."

And just as quickly as that setup was introduced they blew it up.

LOL.

I'll give it a few more tries before I decide to bail.  Seems extremely derivative of The Six Million Dollar man among other things.

Actually, I thought it was a more serious version of 'Chuck.'


1)  I missed out on Chuck.

2)  I imagine I'm a bit older than you ;-)
 
2014-01-15 11:57:45 AM

minoridiot: I thought it was an updated version of Holmes & Yo-Yo from the 70's.


I didn't get past the intro on YouTube. That was just shockingly horrible.
 
2014-01-15 11:58:08 AM
Better than the Skye of SHIELD Adventures.
 
2014-01-15 11:59:36 AM
I recently had some time to kill and watched through most of it and have so far been enjoying it. It's an odd-couple buddy cop show that happens to be set in a somewhat dystopian future- what's most important is the chemistry between the leads, and that part works quite well IMO. The oddities of the tech are actually something I can handle easily. Look at what they thought the DISTANT future would be like in the original Star Trek- they had communicators the size of a modern cell phone that did pretty much nothing but serve as a 2-way radio to the ship and as a locator beacon, but had ray guns and FTL drive ships with artificial gravity. That they're still using guns isn't THAT much of a surprise- if things like the force field aren't that common and the bullets/guns have kept up with improvements in armor, guns may still be by far the most cost effective weapon to use. They've not ruled out that I know of the existence of more futurisitic weapons, they've just not really used anything like that very much.
 
2014-01-15 12:00:33 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Diogenes: The thing that gets me is how disjointed the development of technology is. They've largely perfected both artificial intelligence and androids, artificial limbs that are operated by thought, mini-force fields that contain bomb blasts, and they're still using physical projectile weapons.

I think that's kind of the way things would develop. Of course there are AI and androids! Porn always cuts into new tech. Sex-bots and all! And if you notice most of the new tech is consumer based. Which makes sense, that's where the money is at. Now, the force field is the out-layer. I don't know how to explain that.


Yeah I had this whole post ready to go about how battery technology probably hasn't caught up enough to make a laser gun effective, but then I thought about how tiny the bomb-stopping force field is.

/ does the bomb-stopping force field also stop bullets?  Maybe turn that on in a gun fight...
 
2014-01-15 12:01:03 PM

propasaurus: Diogenes: Nefarious: Diogenes: serial_crusher: Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.

And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."

And just as quickly as that setup was introduced they blew it up.

LOL.

I'll give it a few more tries before I decide to bail.  Seems extremely derivative of The Six Million Dollar man among other things.

Actually, I thought it was a more serious version of 'Chuck.'


More serious, more predictable, and inferior, but mildly entertaining.
 
2014-01-15 12:01:55 PM

minoridiot: I thought it was an updated version of Holmes & Yo-Yo from the 70's.


I thought it was a spinoff of that episode of Friends where Joey is an actor on "Mac and Cheese"
 
2014-01-15 12:02:33 PM

propasaurus: Diogenes: It's OK as far as network programming goes.  I don't feel lacking if I miss an episode or two.

The thing that gets me is how disjointed the development of technology is.  They've largely perfected both artificial intelligence and androids, artificial limbs that are operated by thought, mini-force fields that contain bomb blasts, and they're still using physical projectile weapons.

But the leads and their chemistry are fun.

I thought about that watching the last episode where a guy was shot in a train station (or something like that.) Not only was he shot with a bullet (albeit a futuristic microchip-guided bullet) but the bystanders in the station were reading newspapers. Sure, they were 'futuristic' plastic-digital-virtual newspapers, but they weren't tablets or some such device, they were actual turn-the-page newspapers.


Hipsters
 
2014-01-15 12:02:36 PM

Diogenes: I missed out on Chuck.


Go back and watch it.  It's great.  I think Netflix has it.
 
2014-01-15 12:05:42 PM

serial_crusher: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Diogenes: The thing that gets me is how disjointed the development of technology is. They've largely perfected both artificial intelligence and androids, artificial limbs that are operated by thought, mini-force fields that contain bomb blasts, and they're still using physical projectile weapons.

I think that's kind of the way things would develop. Of course there are AI and androids! Porn always cuts into new tech. Sex-bots and all! And if you notice most of the new tech is consumer based. Which makes sense, that's where the money is at. Now, the force field is the out-layer. I don't know how to explain that.

Yeah I had this whole post ready to go about how battery technology probably hasn't caught up enough to make a laser gun effective, but then I thought about how tiny the bomb-stopping force field is.

/ does the bomb-stopping force field also stop bullets?  Maybe turn that on in a gun fight...


The bomb shield didn't last very long.
Though they could bust out an o-sh** bullet shield like Kruger had in Elysium
 
2014-01-15 12:05:59 PM
I hope Meghan Ory returns to Once Upon a Time.
 
2014-01-15 12:06:34 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [static.vroomgirls.com image 850x566]

I have been led to believe that in the future we will all be driving 2013 Ford Taurus's.


Well, the criminals among us anyway.  The baddies in Almost Human usually drive Tauruses, while the cops drive Fusions.  It's a bit silly, but then again I don't really care that the show didn't go to the trouble of making up fake future cars---I feel like you run a really high risk of having hokey-looking "future cars" when you try to do something like that.  At least they look and drive like convincingly real cars, because they are.

Anyway, that's beside the point.  I mostly like the show and I'm still following it for now.  The two lead actors are really the glue, but I think the other characters could come along if they get some time to develop.  I'm a bit disappointed that they're doing "adventure of the week"---the pilot led me to believe that there would be some kind of quest (or even side quest with partial updates every episode) built around trying to hunt down the people that perpetrated the ambush that led to Karl Urban's injury.
 
2014-01-15 12:06:53 PM

serial_crusher: Diogenes: I missed out on Chuck.

Go back and watch it.  It's great.  I think Netflix has it.


Netflix has the full run. I missed it when it was running too, and it was silly fun.
 
2014-01-15 12:09:26 PM

Diogenes: I imagine I'm a bit older than you ;-)


Hahaa... no. But you have been here longer, so you're older in FARK years.
 
2014-01-15 12:12:19 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [static.vroomgirls.com image 850x566]

I have been led to believe that in the future we will all be driving 2013 Ford Taurus's.


Actually, I thought that was a wink and a nod to Robocop. They drove Ford Tauruses in that, too.
 
2014-01-15 12:13:09 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: and oh sweet lord:

[img40.imageshack.us image 596x894]

Athletic
long hair brunette
looks like she can kick arse
got a good level of snark about her
and last espionage they dropped her into a black tank top and a tight pair of jeans?!

Someone found my Christmas list and checked all the boxes...

Almost Human'

s token hot female is better (and more feminine):

strangecosmos.comimg3.rnkr-static.com
 
2014-01-15 12:13:25 PM

propasaurus: Actually, I thought it was a more serious version of 'Chuck.'


As I said before I don't want a rehash of Chuck. And I saw that happening right down to the hot woman sent to protect him. We just needed a gun nut pining after the cold war and you had it all.

Then I realized that the new guy could be a combo of Cassie and Chuck. He has the gun nut thing covered and he is anti-establishment enough to be Chuck. Then I started to get worried. Then throw on top the second and superior Intersect, oops I mean "chip", being implanted into someone who could never be a physical equal to the first one... I'm just worried right now. If the new chip is able to grant physical abilities I'm going to be upset. Not upset enough to stop watching that lovely female walk across my TV set, but upset enough to nerd rage about it on Fark.
 
2014-01-15 12:16:07 PM
I saw the the Blade Runner influences from the first show, it's what kept me interested enough to actually start liking the show. it' not perfect but a fun watch and Urban is a likeable enough guy.

2wolves: I tried to like the show.

I keep expecting Gene Simmons to pop us as a villain.


Or Mick Jagger a-la "New Jack City."
 
2014-01-15 12:21:00 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [static.vroomgirls.com image 850x566]

I have been led to believe that in the future we will all be driving 2013 Ford Taurus's.

Well, the criminals among us anyway.  The baddies in Almost Human usually drive Tauruses, while the cops drive Fusions.  It's a bit silly, but then again I don't really care that the show didn't go to the trouble of making up fake future cars---I feel like you run a really high risk of having hokey-looking "future cars" when you try to do something like that.  At least they look and drive like convincingly real cars, because they are.

Anyway, that's beside the point.  I mostly like the show and I'm still following it for now.  The two lead actors are really the glue, but I think the other characters could come along if they get some time to develop.  I'm a bit disappointed that they're doing "adventure of the week"---the pilot led me to believe that there would be some kind of quest (or even side quest with partial updates every episode) built around trying to hunt down the people that perpetrated the ambush that led to Karl Urban's injury.


The episode with the tracer bullets (where's Tom Selleck when you need him?  Or better, skinny Kirstie Alley...) got back to it a bit, with both the counselor mentioning his ex and the Captain trying to find out what the bad guys had tried to steal from evidence... maybe they're getting on track now.
 
2014-01-15 12:22:39 PM

peterthx: Almost Human's token hot female is better (and more feminine):


Oh she is hot. And looks better on the show then she does in the pictures! Less make-up, more business. Her sipping scotch.....

Confidence is hot. But my personal taste leads me to the other one.

HMS_Blinkin: built around trying to hunt down the people that perpetrated the ambush that led to Karl Urban's injury.


You got a reminder of that in the last episode. They dragged out the guy they caught breaking into police head quarters and went as far as having him hint to the fact they have gone over it "50 times". And they had him came right out and said he had info on the ambush.
But the only thing that has touched all the episodes is the budding relationship between Karl and Minka
 
2014-01-15 12:23:42 PM

propasaurus: Diogenes: Nefarious: Diogenes: serial_crusher: Disclaimer: that bit about his girlfriend being a terrorist leader is stupid.  They haven't really brought it up (the anger management counselor made a passing reference to it this week but that's it IIRC), so maybe pilot audiences correctly identified that as a stupid idea and got them to cut it.

And CBS has replicated that setup for Josh Halloway's character in "Intelligence."

And just as quickly as that setup was introduced they blew it up.

LOL.

I'll give it a few more tries before I decide to bail.  Seems extremely derivative of The Six Million Dollar man among other things.

Actually, I thought it was a more serious version of 'Chuck.'


Thats what I thought too. A more serious Chuck.
 
2014-01-15 12:24:00 PM

timujin: Or better, skinny Kirstie Alley


let her go man, she is gone
 
2014-01-15 12:24:18 PM
The show's still finding its feet and there is a lot of development needed for basically everyone besides Kennex and Dorian (that woman who crushes on him is gorgeous, but she barely does anything of consequence besides walk hurriedly around the command room), but it's fun and the scenes with Urban and Ealy together are worth it. The Rudy character has his moments too.

Bit of a slow start, but sticking with Fringe through the rough beginning paid off so I'm hoping AH finds its voice as it goes. The weird episode order shuffling hasn't helped either.
 
2014-01-15 12:25:02 PM

timujin: The episode with the tracer bullets (where's Tom Selleck when you need him?  Or better, skinny Kirstie Alley...) got back to it a bit, with both the counselor mentioning his ex and the Captain trying to find out what the bad guys had tried to steal from evidence... maybe they're getting on track now.


Was that the most recent one?  I haven't seen it yet.  That'd be cool if they're going to do a story arc now though.
 
2014-01-15 12:29:25 PM

HMS_Blinkin: timujin: The episode with the tracer bullets (where's Tom Selleck when you need him?  Or better, skinny Kirstie Alley...) got back to it a bit, with both the counselor mentioning his ex and the Captain trying to find out what the bad guys had tried to steal from evidence... maybe they're getting on track now.

Was that the most recent one?  I haven't seen it yet.  That'd be cool if they're going to do a story arc now though.


I think we're going to see a bit more of an arc come up.  Fox, as is typical, has aired a number of episodes out of order, and that includes episodes that had those hints of something else going on.  This last episode felt like it was actually the second or third.
 
2014-01-15 12:30:39 PM
That black dude has light eyes!  Let's cast him as a terrorist..NO!  A ROBOT!
 
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