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(Mother Jones)   It turns out Henry Kissinger was more evil than we thought; he's the one that gave the "green light" for Argentina's dirty war that resulted in the deaths of an estimated 30,000 people   (motherjones.com) divider line 34
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2014-01-15 08:55:41 AM  
7 votes:
Actually, this is just getting out of misdemeanor level on the scale of evil I associate with Henry Kissinger.
2014-01-15 08:36:23 AM  
4 votes:
If there really was Justice in the world, Henry Kissinger and Dick Cheney would be locked in a small cage in The Hague and forced to fight each other with rusty spoons for their food.
2014-01-15 12:20:15 PM  
3 votes:

whidbey: trotsky: For as liberal as I am sometimes, I actually like Kissinger. Unlike Cheney, who is a sack of shiat, Kissinger saw the world through the eyes of a learned PhD policy maker, somebody who applied his research to policy. Everything he did was realism in practice.

Bullshiat.


Remember, "realism" in this context just means "perpetuating the current highly artificial state of affairs because it benefits certain western powers and, more importantly, their pocketbooks".
2014-01-15 11:30:06 AM  
3 votes:

trotsky: For as liberal as I am sometimes, I actually like Kissinger. Unlike Cheney, who is a sack of shiat, Kissinger saw the world through the eyes of a learned PhD policy maker, somebody who applied his research to policy. Everything he did was realism in practice.


I'm not sure how I feel about a user named "trotsky" advocating a realpolitik approach to things.
2014-01-15 10:57:21 AM  
3 votes:
That's Nobel Peace Prize Winner Henry Kissinger, subby.

/amused when people talk about how Obama's NPP lowered the status of the award
2014-01-15 10:36:20 AM  
3 votes:
I wonder if the GOP of Kissinger's time had the same "HEY, HE JUST LOVED THE COUNTRY AND TRIED TO KEEP US SAFE, JUST MOVE ON ALREADY!" crowd of apologists that the Dubya cabal had.

It's as if failing to punish somebody for their crimes encourages other people to follow precedent or something.
2014-01-15 09:10:24 AM  
3 votes:
Speak for yourself, Subby. It turns out that Kissinger is exactly as evil as I'd always thought.

/And don't even get me started on his responsibility for Tom Lehrer's retirement.
2014-01-15 02:49:05 PM  
2 votes:
Some of us have been keeping an eye on Kissinger for a long time. This isn't really news, and if all you know about Kissinger is what you read in TFA, he's still WAY more evil than you think.
2014-01-15 12:36:27 PM  
2 votes:

trotsky: Everything he did was realism in practice.


This here is the bogus keystone holding up the Kissinger myth.
2014-01-15 12:07:30 PM  
2 votes:

trotsky: For as liberal as I am sometimes, I actually like Kissinger. Unlike Cheney, who is a sack of shiat, Kissinger saw the world through the eyes of a learned PhD policy maker, somebody who applied his research to policy. Everything he did was realism in practice.


Bullshiat.
2014-01-15 12:06:31 PM  
2 votes:
I'm sure this old news is exciting for the first time anyone's read it, but yeah.

Kissinger should be behind bars as a war criminal.
2014-01-15 10:56:24 AM  
2 votes:
Kissinger is an awful man who should meet the worst punishment we have to offer. He, like Cheney, should be tried in The Hague.
2014-01-15 10:32:42 AM  
2 votes:
Is this even news, or just news to people under 40?
2014-01-15 10:27:06 AM  
2 votes:
Can we just accept that republican foreign policy is "People who aren't Americans deserve to die, and a few American soldier deaths are worth it to cause those deaths"?
And can we accept that democratic foreign policy is "We don't care, let's keep doing whatever we're doing"?
2014-01-15 10:26:50 AM  
2 votes:

czetie: Speak for yourself, Subby. It turns out that Kissinger is exactly as evil as I'd always thought.


Yeah, this is absolutely no surprise to anyone.
2014-01-15 09:07:46 AM  
2 votes:

Therion: If there really was Justice in the world, Henry Kissinger and Dick Cheney would be locked in a small cage in The Hague and forced to fight each other with rusty spoons for their food.


You mean because each of them is the other person's food, right? We shouldn't waste gruel on these two assholes.
2014-01-15 03:59:38 PM  
1 votes:
If this is all you have for "why Kissinger deserves to die" subby, you must be very, very young.
2014-01-15 03:57:59 PM  
1 votes:

tirob: FTA:  "...the Carter administration reversed policy and made human rights a priority in its relations with Argentina and other nations."

If that's what the Carter administration did--I for one recall no such reversal of policy regarding Argentina--it didn't help the Argentinian leftists who were being rounded up and murdered by the Videla government.  Most of the deaths in the Dirty War happened during 1977-81.



Carter's policy was to talk about human rights, especially in the context of relations with the USSR.

In practice our allies and clients like Iran, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Zaire etc. would get a sanctimonious scolding along with their monthly arms shipment, which tended to piss them off without slowing down the killing.

We boycotted the Olympics, but kept on eating the bananas.  Carter can kiss my ass.
2014-01-15 03:31:56 PM  
1 votes:
Was evil? He still is! And the only reason why the creepy old ghoul hasn't keeled over yet is because Satan fears he'll be replaced the moment Henry arrives ass-first into Hell.
2014-01-15 01:49:46 PM  
1 votes:

Mr_Fabulous: czetie: Speak for yourself, Subby. It turns out that Kissinger is exactly as evil as I'd always thought.

Yeah, this is absolutely no surprise to anyone.


That. He should have been disappeared many years ago.
2014-01-15 01:18:22 PM  
1 votes:

SevenizGud: pkellmey: We find amazing ways to justify messing in other countries politics

I know! How dare we try to bring democracy to Nicaragua! What next, we try to get arab nations to allow womenfolk to vote?


We tried to bring democracy to Nicaragua by making a client of the vicious dictator whose family had been in control of the country (with American assistance) since 1927.
2014-01-15 12:59:09 PM  
1 votes:
This was pretty well known in most political science spaces. This was taught as a known fact when I was in school in the '90s. Placing it in context with all of the other things we did in Central and South America in the 20th century, this was seen by many as a way to place a limited timeline boundary on what was already believed to be taking place. We find amazing ways to justify messing in other countries politics.
2014-01-15 12:22:04 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, and yes, Kissinger is filth and should be executed, brought back to life, and executed again once for each of the millions of people he is directly responsible for killing.
2014-01-15 11:34:24 AM  
1 votes:

mayIFark: Ned Stark: mayIFark: Therion: If there really was Justice in the world, Henry Kissinger and Dick Cheney would be locked in a small cage in The Hague and forced to fight each other with rusty spoons for their food.

I hate it that Bush gets an easy pass as if it was all Cheney forcing a little kid to do all those bad things. Make it a 3-way between Bush, Cheney and Kissinger and you are up to something.

We've gotta limit theses sorts of things to the topical and our own personal villains. If we're attempting a complete list we'll be here all day chanting the names of the damned. And that's a little creepy.

Lol wut?

Just complete the list of top 10 worst human beings to ever walk on the face of the earth, and we'll be done (and those 3 will be there).


Nearly 1/3rd of the top ten evil people of all time are Americans alive at the same time as you?

Staggering coincidence, that.
2014-01-15 11:30:10 AM  
1 votes:

trotsky: For as liberal as I am sometimes, I actually like Kissinger. Unlike Cheney, who is a sack of shiat, Kissinger saw the world through the eyes of a learned PhD policy maker, somebody who applied his research to policy. Everything he did was realism in practice.


He applied realpolitik without any consideration for morality.
2014-01-15 11:21:46 AM  
1 votes:

Testiclaw: Wasn't it Hitchens who said about Kissinger: "If we gave him an enema he could be buried in a matchbox"?

I miss Hitch.

Kissinger was a disgusting, vile cockroach.


That was the old Hitchens.  He died an unrepentant cheerleader for war criminals.
2014-01-15 11:17:32 AM  
1 votes:

dr_blasto: Kissinger is an awful man who should meet the worst punishment we have to offer. He, like Cheney, should be tried in The Hague.


That's the worst punishment we have to offer?

There is video of American soldiers waterboarding prisoners that's been in the public domain for forty years. There's somebody in an American prison being tortured right now.

I am not convinced that grisly, public torture and execution has outlived its usefulness as a deterrent.

I'm aware of the human rights paradox that creates.

So is Henry Kissinger.

I'm deeply confused and troubled by it.

He likes it.
2014-01-15 11:07:35 AM  
1 votes:

mayIFark: Therion: If there really was Justice in the world, Henry Kissinger and Dick Cheney would be locked in a small cage in The Hague and forced to fight each other with rusty spoons for their food.

I hate it that Bush gets an easy pass as if it was all Cheney forcing a little kid to do all those bad things. Make it a 3-way between Bush, Cheney and Kissinger and you are up to something.


We've gotta limit theses sorts of things to the topical and our own personal villains. If we're attempting a complete list we'll be here all day chanting the names of the damned. And that's a little creepy.
2014-01-15 11:04:49 AM  
1 votes:
Wasn't it Hitchens who said about Kissinger: "If we gave him an enema he could be buried in a matchbox"?

I miss Hitch.

Kissinger was a disgusting, vile cockroach.
2014-01-15 10:55:07 AM  
1 votes:

vudukungfu: czetie: his responsibility for Tom Lehrer's retirement.

Wat?


http://www.avclub.com/article/tom-lehrer-13660
2014-01-15 10:42:27 AM  
1 votes:
"[Nixon] doesn't want to hear anything," says Dr Kissinger, stressing the need for secrecy. "It's an order, it's to be done. Anything that flies on everything that moves. You got that?"

/Genocide for dummies
2014-01-15 10:36:11 AM  
1 votes:

Mr_Fabulous: Yeah, this is absolutely no surprise to anyone.


Except those who haven't been paying attention up until now.
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2014-01-15 08:56:42 AM  
1 votes:
Apparently he is, and I thought he was pretty evil before.
2014-01-15 08:37:53 AM  
1 votes:
He used his Magic Murderbag.
 
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