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(Orlando Sentinel)   You can now legally carry guns on colleges campuses across the already dangerous state of Florida   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 30
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2014-01-15 08:16:15 AM
Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-01-15 08:16:59 AM
"Personally, I don't think there is any place for guns on campus unless it's in the hands of law enforcement," said Fassi, chairman of the Florida Student Association. "Just the thought of someone getting upset and having a gun in their parked car is scary."

Yeah, I'm the one living in fear.
 
2014-01-15 08:17:34 AM
And? Ohio has done it for years, chicken little.
 
2014-01-15 08:17:50 AM
"colleges campuses"???

I'm more worried about the state of grammar than the state of Florida.
 
2014-01-15 08:18:38 AM

Molavian: "Personally, I don't think there is any place for guns on campus unless it's in the hands of law enforcement," said Fassi, chairman of the Florida Student Association. "Just the thought of someone getting upset and having a gun in their parked car is scary."

Yeah, I'm the one living in fear.


Should be! All those liberals with guns and soon they'll be in the majority!
 
2014-01-15 08:23:12 AM
As for the article, fail title is fail. It only allows them to be secured in vehicles. For decades most colleges had no rules against firearms at all. There were no major problems from this. Even now many universities and entire states allow carry on campus, all without incident. Rules against a thing do nothing to prevent a thing anyway, as we learned from the drug war, speed limits, etc. This is especially true when already facing the death penalty for murder...the addition of a gross misdemeanor weapons charge isn't going to change anything.

Given that ~75% of homicides are committed by criminals (felons specifically) it would be more advantageous to ban criminals from campuses than the firearms...of course, somehow people realize that's a violation of rights (even though there's no direct guarantee of such) but fail to see the same with firearms (where there's a pretty clear guarantee of such).

Seeing the utter fail which is the American political landscape I rescind my idea to ban criminals from campuses...this country needs all the education it can manage, regardless of risk.
 
2014-01-15 08:30:04 AM
This will cut down on the texting in class.
 
2014-01-15 08:34:14 AM
Public universities statewide have started allowing students to keep guns in parked vehicles after a Florida court ruled last month that it is unlawful to prohibit it.

Last I checked, keeping a weapon in a parked car is not carrying, Submitard.

Guess we know who got a crappy verbal score on their SAT.
 
2014-01-15 08:34:43 AM

Daercoma: This will cut down on the texting in class.

 
2014-01-15 08:35:04 AM
Anxiously awaiting the day Florida citizens stand-your-ground their way out of existence.
 
2014-01-15 08:35:17 AM

theprinceofwands: "colleges campuses"???

I'm more worried about the state of grammar than the state of Florida.


It must have been written by an FSU grad
 
2014-01-15 08:37:54 AM
By the way, as a former Director of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, I'm pretty well versed on this subject. Feel free to ask any LEGIT questions you may have. Always happy to share knowledge.
 
2014-01-15 08:43:06 AM
Why do we need special rules for everything?  Whatever the laws are for guns should apply at the universities. It's like texting... no special law needed, we already have one, called reckless driving.
 
2014-01-15 08:43:48 AM

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Public universities statewide have started allowing students to keep guns in parked vehicles after a Florida court ruled last month that it is unlawful to prohibit it.

Last I checked, keeping a weapon in a parked car is not carrying, Submitard.

Guess we know who got a crappy verbal score on their SAT.
They can't understand the amendment, don't expect them to understand the news.
 
2014-01-15 08:44:29 AM

Whole Wheat: And? Ohio has done it for years, chicken little.


ORC 2923.126 prohibits concealed carry on any premises owned or leased by any public or private college, university, or other institution of higher education, unless the handgun is in a locked motor vehicle or the licensee is in the immediate process of placing the handgun in a locked motor vehicle.

ORC 9.68 Preemption
Some public universities prohibit even licensees from storing their firearms in their car while on campus. These universities claim it is part of their general rule making authority granted by ORC 3345.21
These rules violate state law. The Ohio legislature has overruled the general rule making authority of universities by enacting specific legislation in ORC 2923.126(B)(5) which specifically allows a licensee to store their weapon in their vehicle while on campus.
 
2014-01-15 08:47:06 AM
And just like concealed carry itself, the average citizen will see no change by not infringing on law abiding citizen's rights.  Isn't that the same argument the left uses for abortion, gay marriage, and drugs?  Not seeing the problem here.
 
2014-01-15 08:59:32 AM
A similar law exists in Kentucky, specifically stating that no place of business may prohibit the storage of concealed firearms in private, locked vehicles on the property nor may an employer prohibit an employee from storing a firearm in a locked, private vehicle on the employer's premises (with specific exceptions for some detention facility employees). While not specifically addressing university facilities, the state supreme court ruled that the University of Kentucky's termination of an employee on the basis of a legally owned firearm locked in his vehicle was wrongful under the state statute.

Strangely, shootings at universities in the state have not substantially increased since that ruling.
 
2014-01-15 10:02:22 AM

theprinceofwands: As for the article, fail title is fail. It only allows them to be secured in vehicles. For decades most colleges had no rules against firearms at all. There were no major problems from this.


It will prevent school shootings.  Lunatics who are inclined to go on a dramatic shooting spree and die in a hail of gunfire will be prevented from doing so if the mere presence of guns is disallowed.

/ some day, hopefully they'll get around to just outlawing murder, as that would probably be a little more direct than outlawing a some of the tools that can be used to commit it
 
2014-01-15 10:30:31 AM
Frat boys with guns in a state where "he was coming right at me" is a legal defence for murder. Oh this will produce many a fark headline.
 
2014-01-15 10:44:13 AM

jshine: theprinceofwands: As for the article, fail title is fail. It only allows them to be secured in vehicles. For decades most colleges had no rules against firearms at all. There were no major problems from this.

It will prevent school shootings.  Lunatics who are inclined to go on a dramatic shooting spree and die in a hail of gunfire will be prevented from doing so if the mere presence of guns is disallowed.

/ some day, hopefully they'll get around to just outlawing murder, as that would probably be a little more direct than outlawing a some of the tools that can be used to commit it


Good plan. I say we move ahead with the "female gingers are legally prevented from saying no to sex" plan, as that would certainly result in my getting to sleep with Nicole Kidman. As far a I can tell both plans are equally equitable and effective.
 
2014-01-15 10:51:10 AM

theprinceofwands: jshine: theprinceofwands: As for the article, fail title is fail. It only allows them to be secured in vehicles. For decades most colleges had no rules against firearms at all. There were no major problems from this.

It will prevent school shootings.  Lunatics who are inclined to go on a dramatic shooting spree and die in a hail of gunfire will be prevented from doing so if the mere presence of guns is disallowed.

/ some day, hopefully they'll get around to just outlawing murder, as that would probably be a little more direct than outlawing a some of the tools that can be used to commit it

Good plan. I say we move ahead with the "female gingers are legally prevented from saying no to sex" plan, as that would certainly result in my getting to sleep with Nicole Kidman. As far a I can tell both plans are equally equitable and effective.


Sure; I could get behind that.
 
2014-01-15 11:31:08 AM
You can carry a gun anywhere you want. You gun lovers want to carry a gun? Go right ahead. Carry a farking gun everywhere you go. Since you're a responsible gun owner, no one will ever know, since you will never have any reason to use it. Or on the very, very slim chance that you do have a reason to use it, you will be a hero and might, at the worst, be given a ticket for carrying a gun illegally.

Go for it. Carry your guns around until you clank. Upgrade your boring life with non-stop fantasies about how you're going to save us all from the bad, bad people. Whatever it takes. Take your gun.
 
2014-01-15 11:52:52 AM

Ghastly: Frat boys with guns in a state where "he was coming right at me" is a legal defence for murder. Oh this will produce many a fark headline.


Just like you mom has?
 
2014-01-15 12:08:00 PM

cryinoutloud: You can carry a gun anywhere you want. You gun lovers want to carry a gun? Go right ahead. Carry a farking gun everywhere you go. Since you're a responsible gun owner, no one will ever know, since you will never have any reason to use it. Or on the very, very slim chance that you do have a reason to use it, you will be a hero and might, at the worst, be given a ticket for carrying a gun illegally.

Go for it. Carry your guns around until you clank. Upgrade your boring life with non-stop fantasies about how you're going to save us all from the bad, bad people. Whatever it takes. Take your gun.


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2014-01-15 01:34:50 PM

cryinoutloud: You can carry a gun anywhere you want. You gun lovers want to carry a gun? Go right ahead. Carry a farking gun everywhere you go. Since you're a responsible gun owner, no one will ever know, since you will never have any reason to use it. Or on the very, very slim chance that you do have a reason to use it, you will be a hero and might, at the worst, be given a ticket for carrying a gun illegally.

Go for it. Carry your guns around until you clank. Upgrade your boring life with non-stop fantasies about how you're going to save us all from the bad, bad people. Whatever it takes. Take your gun.


I keep hearing that gun owners are the obsessed and paranoid ones.  Wow.  I'm surprised there was no penis reference.  You gun grabbers seem to have a thing for huge penises
 
2014-01-15 02:03:13 PM

theprinceofwands: Seeing the utter fail which is the American political landscape I rescind my idea to ban criminals from campuses...this country needs all the education it can manage, regardless of risk.


If they banned criminals from campuses, the bursar and school bookstore would be out of business.

Until we stop claiming that "rehabilitation is possible," criminals should still able to eventually pay their debt to society.

Keeping them from getting an education is probably not the best way to reduce recidivism.
 
2014-01-15 02:27:07 PM
"...across the already dangerous state of Florida."

Implying the mere presence of firearms increases danger.  This despite FBI statistics, and the CDC's Obama commissioned study,  AND a Congressional study, not to mention several other less well known studies, showing the exact opposite.

Sometimes, facts don't go your way.  Get over it.  Live in reality.  Thank you.
 
2014-01-15 05:38:43 PM

farkbot42: Thanks, Obama.


This was clearly Bush's fault. I don't just mean W or Jeb or HW, I think this goes all the way back to Prescott, the (Godwin's Law) sympathizer. You know who else liked guns on campus?
 
2014-01-15 05:58:04 PM
Wouldn't it be inconsistent to do otherwise? The hoplophiles' all claim that the answer to gun violence is more guns, after all.
 
2014-01-15 11:08:10 PM

Liam Burns: farkbot42: Thanks, Obama.

This was clearly Bush's fault. I don't just mean W or Jeb or HW, I think this goes all the way back to Prescott, the (Godwin's Law) sympathizer. You know who else liked guns on campus?


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