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(LA Times)   Mmm sugary and quite fizzy which settles into a vanilla, offset by the bitterness of caffeine with notes of nutmeg, lime and echos of cranberries   (latimes.com ) divider line
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2014-01-15 09:07:59 AM  
If a jelly jar is good enough for wine, it's good enough for Coke.
 
2014-01-15 09:40:36 AM  
I've always wanted one of those soda guns like they have in bars so I could just shoot the soda straight into my mouth.
 
2014-01-15 09:40:57 AM  

Sybarite: If a jelly jar is good enough for wine, it's good enough for Coke.


So much this.
 
2014-01-15 09:45:06 AM  
OT, but I would like to see the word "artisanal" struck from the English language.
 
2014-01-15 09:48:08 AM  
There is only one vessel for the perfect Coca Cola experience:

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2014-01-15 09:53:15 AM  
fat Will your Coke taste better in a specially designed $20 Riedel glass?

Better than RC? No.
 
2014-01-15 09:55:04 AM  
The most exhilarating way to enjoy Coke is by snorting it.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-15 09:57:53 AM  
I love wine, and I appreciate good stemware.  But the whole Riedel mystique is one of the most pretentious rip-offs out there.
 
2014-01-15 10:10:03 AM  

FrancoFile: I love wine, and I appreciate good stemware.  But the whole Riedel mystique is one of the most pretentious rip-offs out there.


Serious question: what differentiates good stemware from bad?

I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue. I freely admit that I fail to see how that would make a difference in the taste of the wine.
 
2014-01-15 10:14:10 AM  

Cybernetic: I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue.


I would have responded: I don't believe that there should be wineglasses, since they impede the flow of wine into my mouth straight from the bottle.
 
2014-01-15 10:19:06 AM  

Cybernetic: FrancoFile: I love wine, and I appreciate good stemware.  But the whole Riedel mystique is one of the most pretentious rip-offs out there.

Serious question: what differentiates good stemware from bad?

I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue. I freely admit that I fail to see how that would make a difference in the taste of the wine.


The bead interferes with your ability to sip in a thin layer, and thus promote evaporation of the various flavor/aroma elements. A thick lip produces glugs, a thin lip allows laminar flow.  50% to 80% of your sense of taste is really your sense of smell.

It's also just physically off-putting when you are concentrating on your lips, tongue, and throat.

Good stemware should be absolutely clear. It needs to have a stem long enough for you to comfortably grasp it, and the base should be free of irregularities so that you can rest the glass on a table-top to swirl, and big enough to be stable when filled.  Thin lip as mentioned above, and big enough to hold 4+ oz of wine and be approximately one-third-full from bottom to top.

Ikea sells some nice, cheap, all-purpose glasses that are fine for casual drinking.  Restaurant supply places sell pretty good stuff for $6-$10 per stem.  There's no need to buy four each of a dozen different styles @ $30 per stem.
 
2014-01-15 10:21:43 AM  

Cybernetic: Serious question: what differentiates good stemware from bad?

I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue. I freely admit that I fail to see how that would make a difference in the taste of the wine.


I'm a beer guy and have all sorts of specialized glasses for different styles of beer. When I sit down to "taste" beer (meaning after I brew a batch and I am concentrating on finding flaws with the aroma, body, mouth-feel, and subtle tasting notes) I am sure to use the proper glass because it DOES make a difference in that setting. But I have to be really concentrating  and focusing on what I am tasting. If I am just drinking a beer, I will still use a glass, and probably the right type of glass, but it doesn't matter as much since I don't really get all the subtleties if I am not paying attention.

So my guess is if you're casually drinking a glass of wine it's meaningless. If you are really "tasting" it for subtle notes and what have you, it might matter.
 
2014-01-15 10:23:40 AM  
i'll take: "what does a beaver's ass taste like" for $100 dollars, please.
 
2014-01-15 10:27:51 AM  
Also, to paraphrase a comedian, that flavour is cinnamon. You've never really noticed it, but you'll taste it every time now.

/cinnamon
 
2014-01-15 10:29:14 AM  

keithgabryelski: i'll take: "what does a beaver's ass taste like" for $100 dollars, please.


So... Have you tasted a beaver's ass before?
 
2014-01-15 10:44:41 AM  

Doc Batarang: Also, to paraphrase a comedian, that flavour is cinnamon. You've never really noticed it, but you'll taste it every time now.

/cinnamon


I have to go with subby on the nutmeg. I've always noticed that. Cinnamon, not so much.
 
2014-01-15 10:48:28 AM  

FrancoFile: Cybernetic: FrancoFile: I love wine, and I appreciate good stemware.  But the whole Riedel mystique is one of the most pretentious rip-offs out there.

Serious question: what differentiates good stemware from bad?

I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue. I freely admit that I fail to see how that would make a difference in the taste of the wine.

The bead interferes with your ability to sip in a thin layer, and thus promote evaporation of the various flavor/aroma elements. A thick lip produces glugs, a thin lip allows laminar flow.  50% to 80% of your sense of taste is really your sense of smell.

It's also just physically off-putting when you are concentrating on your lips, tongue, and throat.

Good stemware should be absolutely clear. It needs to have a stem long enough for you to comfortably grasp it, and the base should be free of irregularities so that you can rest the glass on a table-top to swirl, and big enough to be stable when filled.  Thin lip as mentioned above, and big enough to hold 4+ oz of wine and be approximately one-third-full from bottom to top.

Ikea sells some nice, cheap, all-purpose glasses that are fine for casual drinking.  Restaurant supply places sell pretty good stuff for $6-$10 per stem.  There's no need to buy four each of a dozen different styles @ $30 per stem.


My problem is with the phrase "per stem."

Guys should never be given a glass with a stem... we are clumsy, uncoordinated and accident prone.  All beverages served to men should be served in the original can or bottle, or with a glass with a wide, solid, and flat base which is not top heavy.

/freely admits superklutz status
//believes coke should be imbibed with a straw
 
2014-01-15 10:54:10 AM  

frontwheeldriver: FrancoFile: Cybernetic: FrancoFile: I love wine, and I appreciate good stemware.  But the whole Riedel mystique is one of the most pretentious rip-offs out there.

Serious question: what differentiates good stemware from bad?

I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue. I freely admit that I fail to see how that would make a difference in the taste of the wine.

The bead interferes with your ability to sip in a thin layer, and thus promote evaporation of the various flavor/aroma elements. A thick lip produces glugs, a thin lip allows laminar flow.  50% to 80% of your sense of taste is really your sense of smell.

It's also just physically off-putting when you are concentrating on your lips, tongue, and throat.

Good stemware should be absolutely clear. It needs to have a stem long enough for you to comfortably grasp it, and the base should be free of irregularities so that you can rest the glass on a table-top to swirl, and big enough to be stable when filled.  Thin lip as mentioned above, and big enough to hold 4+ oz of wine and be approximately one-third-full from bottom to top.

Ikea sells some nice, cheap, all-purpose glasses that are fine for casual drinking.  Restaurant supply places sell pretty good stuff for $6-$10 per stem.  There's no need to buy four each of a dozen different styles @ $30 per stem.

My problem is with the phrase "per stem."

Guys should never be given a glass with a stem... we are clumsy, uncoordinated and accident prone.  All beverages served to men should be served in the original can or bottle, or with a glass with a wide, solid, and flat base which is not top heavy.

/freely admits superklutz status
//believes coke should be imbibed with a straw


Sorry, it's an industry term.  "glass" as an object vs "glass" as a type of material.  Keeps pedants from getting sidetracked on arguments of glass vs. lead crystal.
 
2014-01-15 10:56:38 AM  
Mmm sugary and quite fizzy which settles into a vanilla, offset by the bitterness of caffeine with notes of nutmeg, lime and echos of cranberries

FTA: Reidel glass. The Austrian glass company

More like it's got a bouquet like an Aborigine's armpit.

/opens up the sluices at both ends
 
2014-01-15 11:34:26 AM  
All wine tasting is BS. Most of you can't even tell white from red
Link
 
2014-01-15 11:40:59 AM  

RoxtarRyan: Cybernetic: I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue.

I would have responded: I don't believe that there should be wineglasses, since they impede the flow of wine into my mouth straight from the bottle.

box
 
2014-01-15 11:41:04 AM  

OnlyM3: All wine tasting is BS. Most of you can't even tell white from red
Link


Which is it?

And, depending on variety/blend, there can be more variation between two reds than between a red and a white.
 
2014-01-15 12:02:07 PM  
There is nothing that Coca-Cola can be put in that will stop it from tasting completely vile.
 
2014-01-15 12:03:51 PM  
FrancoFile
2014-01-15 11:41:04 AM


OnlyM3: All wine tasting is BS. Most of you can't even tell white from red
Link

Which is it?

Both. All wine tasting is bs. Most can't even tell white from red... the rest are fooled by what bottle it's poured from.
 
2014-01-15 12:09:18 PM  

Gordon Bennett: There is nothing that Coca-Cola can be put in that will stop it from tasting completely vile.


ask any redneck toddler and they'll tell you a baby bottle is the best.
 
2014-01-15 12:31:44 PM  

OnlyM3: FrancoFile
2014-01-15 11:41:04 AM


OnlyM3: All wine tasting is BS. Most of you can't even tell white from red
Link

Which is it?

Both. All wine tasting is bs. Most can't even tell white from red... the rest are fooled by what bottle it's poured from.


You may as well say that there's no difference between Granny Smith apples and Golden Delicious, or that there's no difference between sirloin and round steak.

There are different chemicals in them.  There are different textures.  Our nervous system has sensors that respond to those.

Are we, as humans, subject to the power of suggestion?  Of course.  But that doesn't mean that those of us who think logically and ponder our sensory data can't make accurate judgements.

That study you cite was of enology undergrads.  Ie, people who were 20-21-22 years old, with little tasting experience.  Of course they're not going to get it right.  That's like having pre-med students read X-rays.
 
2014-01-15 12:38:43 PM  

Cybernetic: I've always wanted one of those soda guns like they have in bars so I could just shoot the soda straight into my mouth.


That gives new meaning to the phrase "jerking off."

/Or old meaning
//Either way
 
2014-01-15 12:42:14 PM  
"Pepsi: It's for gross people!"
 -Glove and Boots, "Your Ad Here."
 
2014-01-15 12:47:48 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Cybernetic: I once had someone tell me that good wineglasses should not have a bead around the rim, because the bead impedes the flow of the wine onto the tongue.

I would have responded: I don't believe that there should be wineglasses, since they impede the flow of wine into my mouth straight from the bottle.


As part of my new years resolution to drink less I make myself drink from an intermediary glass instead of from the bottle. But lo and behold, last night I pour myself a shot, put the bottle down, turn to get a paper towel, swing back around and pick up the bottle and swig from it. I was like "dammit".
 
2014-01-15 12:59:24 PM  
Oh FFS.  And you just know some d-bag is going to buy these to use when their bust out the Passover Coke
 
2014-01-15 01:04:20 PM  
I'm skeptical simply for the fact that the glass is basically minor variations on the classic coke soda fountain glass.  You can bet your ass that the old soda glass design was for looks, not because some pretentious pretenders made sure it was the glass Coke tasted best in.

The only way I'll believe it makes a difference is if they come up with a way to do blind taste tests.  Otherwise it's people deciding it tastes better out of that glass because they want it to.

Wine I get a little because it's chemically more complex, but a lot of the wine tasting process is kind of BS.  The way you are supposed to aerate it in your mouth is just dumb, because if you don't drink it that way when you actually drink it, what farking difference does it make what happens to the taste when you do that.  Also making sure you cover all the regions of the tongue is crap, because the tongue doesn't actually have different taste zones.
 
2014-01-15 02:06:48 PM  
There is nothing better than the first sip of coke from a glass bottle.
 
2014-01-15 02:33:00 PM  

exparrot: There is nothing better than the first sip of coke from a glass bottle.


It's like that first whiff of hydrogen cyanide in the gas chamber.
 
2014-01-15 02:39:44 PM  
FTFA:  Will your Coke taste better in a specially designed $20 Riedel glass?

Yes, and your stereo will sound better with a wooden volume knob.
 
2014-01-15 02:51:37 PM  
Do they make a glass for that coffee that they get from the bean picked out of monkey shiat? Because if they do I don't need one.
 
2014-01-15 03:57:32 PM  

OnlyM3: FrancoFile
2014-01-15 11:41:04 AM


OnlyM3: All wine tasting is BS. Most of you can't even tell white from red
Link

Which is it?

Both. All wine tasting is bs. Most can't even tell white from red... the rest are fooled by what bottle it's poured from.


I only drink it straight from the bottle and never spend more than 15-18 bucks per, but I'd be willing to take the challenge I could tell a pinot grigio from a chard from a cabernet.  But, at the very least, white from red.
 
2014-01-15 04:11:19 PM  

OnlyM3: All wine tasting is BS. Most of you can't even tell white from red
Link

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You may know the right wines, but you're the one on your knees.
 
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