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(TreeHugger)   You think you've got a tough job? At least you don't have to try and convince Americans to stop eating so much damn shrimp   (treehugger.com) divider line 61
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2014-01-15 08:19:04 AM  
F*ck off, hippie.
 
2014-01-15 08:21:17 AM  
Are these the mortal enemies of the shrimp bloggers Taco Bell commercials first informed me of?
 
2014-01-15 08:21:24 AM  
Just ordered some Alaska sidestripe shrimp on line right now, so I'm getting a kick.

/love me some skrimps
//don't eat any tree huggers, more for me
///I sound fat
 
2014-01-15 08:22:20 AM  
There's, um, shrimp kebabs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple shrimp and lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich... That's, that's about it.
 
2014-01-15 08:22:54 AM  
I think I'm going to have a shrimp boil this weekend.
 
2014-01-15 08:23:28 AM  
I hate sea cockroaches.

And that site is OBVIOUSLY not biased or anything.

Really, they use diesel and chlorine to create environments sits or to see life? Really?
 
2014-01-15 08:23:31 AM  
31.media.tumblr.com
yeah, no.
 
2014-01-15 08:24:52 AM  
I'll stop eating shrimp when they're extinct.
 
2014-01-15 08:25:07 AM  
This guy seems like he knows everything there is to know about the shrimping' business
 
2014-01-15 08:26:21 AM  
www.alpcentauri.info

Would like to have a word with you....
 
2014-01-15 08:28:15 AM  
Being allergic to shrimp, I have no problem not eating it.
 
2014-01-15 08:28:46 AM  
Having moved to the Detroit metro from the Texas gulf coast, I really miss fresh seafood. The shrimp (and ocean fish) quality and pricing is so freaking horrible.

Fishing for steelhead and kings in lake Huron is cool though.
 
2014-01-15 08:30:36 AM  

McGrits: Having moved to the Detroit metro from the Texas gulf coast, I really miss fresh seafood. The shrimp (and ocean fish) quality and pricing is so freaking horrible.

Fishing for steelhead and kings in lake Huron is cool though.


Ask someone to take you smelt dipping
 
2014-01-15 08:32:32 AM  

JaCiNto: [www.alpcentauri.info image 203x239]

Would like to have a word with you....


Came.  Satisfied.
 
2014-01-15 08:35:03 AM  
Yeah well, the jerk store called...
 
2014-01-15 08:35:18 AM  

Onkel Buck: McGrits: Having moved to the Detroit metro from the Texas gulf coast, I really miss fresh seafood. The shrimp (and ocean fish) quality and pricing is so freaking horrible.

Fishing for steelhead and kings in lake Huron is cool though.

Ask someone to take you smelt dipping


walleye is damn good eatin, also.
 
2014-01-15 08:36:11 AM  
The ocean called...

www.nrc.nl

 
2014-01-15 08:36:46 AM  
www.godhatesshrimp.com

/oblig
//fortunately i'm not god
 
2014-01-15 08:41:05 AM  

kroonermanblack: I hate sea cockroaches.

And that site is OBVIOUSLY not biased or anything.

Really, they use diesel and chlorine to create environments sits or to see life? Really?


It's poorly-written, but it's not wrong, actually.  The diesel comes from spillage and waste from the pumps.

http://www.worldpumps.com/view/9295/shrimp-farming-a-high-water-dema nd -business/

It's kinda like fracking.  No matter how well-intentioned the operators... and we're talking Third World here... any high-volume industrial activity WILL have side effects.  Why do you think importers lobby against increased chemical testing of farmed seafood?

For your health?

/all that said, loves me some shrimp
//yes, I'm part of the problem
 
2014-01-15 08:41:45 AM  
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2014-01-15 08:42:09 AM  
FTA:   "It takes five square miles of cleared mangrove forest to produce just over two pounds of shrimp -- and that land is typically left depleted within ten years and rendered unusable for another forty.

I couldn't imagine that clearing 5 square miles of forest to grow 2 pounds of shrimp would be remotely economically feasible.
 
2014-01-15 08:53:55 AM  
Shrimp, the oceans cockroach. No thanks.
 
2014-01-15 08:59:24 AM  
I cant shake the feeling that the "5 square miles fish farm only produces 2 pounds of shrimp"  claim is highly dubious.
 
2014-01-15 08:59:57 AM  
As long Publix keeps pricing shrimp cheaper per pound than other meats, poultry, and seafood, I'm going to keep right on eating it.  Love watching for those sales!
 
2014-01-15 08:59:58 AM  
I don't eat as much shrimp as I used to, mainly because I refuse to eat any that has had tri sodium phosphate added to it.
Most commercial shrimpers add this powder to their ice holds automatically because it adds water weight to the shrimp, and makes the unsightly black that fresh shrimp sometimes get disappear. But if you are familiar with fresh shrimp, you can taste it right away.

Sadly, even here locally along the Gulf Coast of Florida the price of diesel has risen so much that getting fresh shrimp from independent shrimpers is getting hard to find, and dammed near impossible if you don't know anybody who runs a boat.

wild shrimp isn't a better option because it usually involves the use of deep-sea trawlers, which kills 5 to 20 pounds of "bycatch" (unwanted species of fish accidentally scooped up by the trawler's net) for every pound of shrimp.

Most of the bycatch is immediately thrown back in the water, much of it swimming away. Most anything edible went into the stew pot. There was some waste, but definitely not the ecological disaster insinuated at here. In twenty four years of shrimping I only picked up one turtle, who was very much alive when I threw it overboard.
 
2014-01-15 09:14:19 AM  
FTFA: you'll probably not want to touch that shrimp ring ever again after reading what's really happening behind the scenes.

FALSE
 
2014-01-15 09:15:44 AM  

Molavian: F*ck off, hippie.


The rebuttal to environmental concerns about turning the third world into a cesspit so we can have a snack and a new phone, summarized.
 
2014-01-15 09:16:00 AM  
http://today.agrilife.org/2011/09/28/new-shrimp-technology/

2.2 pounds of shrimp per 5 square miles is retarded.
 
2014-01-15 09:17:37 AM  

Alonjar: I cant shake the feeling that the "5 square miles fish farm only produces 2 pounds of shrimp"  claim is highly dubious.


devildog123: FTA:   "It takes five square miles of cleared mangrove forest to produce just over two pounds of shrimp -- and that land is typically left depleted within ten years and rendered unusable for another forty.

I couldn't imagine that clearing 5 square miles of forest to grow 2 pounds of shrimp would be remotely economically feasible.


You're both right to be sceptical.  500 lbs per acre per harvest is the industry norm, iirc.  Research farms can double that, but it's hard to reproduce in commercial setttings.
 
2014-01-15 09:20:34 AM  

PunGent: You're both right to be sceptical.  500 lbs per acre per harvest is the industry norm, iirc.  Research farms can double that, but it's hard to reproduce in commercial setttings.


How many harvests per year?
 
2014-01-15 09:24:23 AM  
 
2014-01-15 09:29:35 AM  
FTFA--The best option probably won't appeal to some people - just stop eating shrimp.

Nope.
 
2014-01-15 09:51:01 AM  

Teaser: FTFA: you'll probably not want to touch that shrimp ring ever again after reading what's really happening behind the scenes.

FALSE


It actually put me in the mood for some shrimp. Now I have a craving to satisfy.
 
2014-01-15 10:11:24 AM  

Passive Aggressive Larry: Teaser: FTFA: you'll probably not want to touch that shrimp ring ever again after reading what's really happening behind the scenes.

FALSE

It actually put me in the mood for some shrimp. Now I have a craving to satisfy.


Was in a comic store in college. Overheard a vegan going on about chicken to another guy:
Vegan: "Do you know what they do to chicken?"
Guy: "No, but it's delicious."

/you can have my skrimps when you pry them from my cold, dead hands
//possible due to a massive coronary due to skrimp induced cholesterol blockage
 
2014-01-15 10:16:15 AM  
Homer: Your old meat made me sick!
Apu: Why, I'm so sorry. Please accept five pounds of frozen shrimp. [Homer picks, sniffs shrimp]
Homer: This shrimp isn't frozen - and it smells funny!
Apu: Okay, ten pounds.
Homer: Woo-hoo
 
2014-01-15 10:27:20 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I'll stop eating shrimp when they're extinct.


same here
eff u hippie! i can go on like bubba from forest gump about how much i love shrimp prepared pretty much any way one could possibly prepare shrimp!
 
2014-01-15 10:39:42 AM  
www.bricoleurbanism.org
 
2014-01-15 10:43:49 AM  
It's hard to believe a green oriented article would exaggerate claims of the destruction of the environment. I'm shocked.
 
2014-01-15 10:53:20 AM  

SVenus: It's hard to believe a green oriented article would exaggerate claims of the destruction of the environment. I'm shocked.


So, the process is just destructive enough without being too destructive? Have another shrimp popper, fatty, the world don't matter none for nothin' after you die, right?
 
2014-01-15 11:15:31 AM  

Witty_Retort: Passive Aggressive Larry: Teaser: FTFA: you'll probably not want to touch that shrimp ring ever again after reading what's really happening behind the scenes.

FALSE

It actually put me in the mood for some shrimp. Now I have a craving to satisfy.

Was in a comic store in college. Overheard a vegan going on about chicken to another guy:
Vegan: "Do you know what they do to chicken?"
Guy: "No, but it's delicious."

/you can have my skrimps when you pry them from my cold, dead hands
//possible due to a massive coronary due to skrimp induced cholesterol blockage


marginalnotes.typepad.comt3.gstatic.com
 
2014-01-15 11:20:23 AM  

bungle_jr: To The Escape Zeppelin!: I'll stop eating shrimp when they're extinct.

same here
eff u hippie! i can go on like bubba from forest gump about how much i love shrimp prepared pretty much any way one could possibly prepare shrimp!


I'll stop eating shrimp when Crab or Lobster is less expensive.

I never got how to eat crawfish out of the shell.  They taste like shrimp when it's just the meat though.

/Going to New Orleans in a month.
//Already have oyster spots planned from last weeks oyster thread.  One of the suggested spots is right by the Airport, first stop.
 
2014-01-15 11:57:14 AM  
aforanything.com
 
2014-01-15 11:59:32 AM  
Not all shrimp is equal. Avoid shrimp from South East Asia where it is farmed under dubious conditions (too much waste, too many drugs). Buy shrimp or prawns from Alaska where wild shrimp are caught without so much ecological damage.

David Suzuki has a list of the top 10 sustainable and ecologically sound sources of seafood.

The Monterrey Seafood watch has a little pocket guide you can print out and carry in your wallet or purse.

I love seafood and they'll get my seafood when they pry it from my cold dead fingers after I starve to death eating lobster and other hard-to-open shellfish and crustacians.

It is a good idea to develop a taste for sea urchins and jelly fish, etc.

Because of over-fishing, pollution, acidification, global warming, and other unsustainable practices, fish stocks are suffering globally and we are facing oceans that ressemble those of hundreds of millions of years ago.

Here's a link to the Seafood Watch recommendations:

http://www.seafoodwatch.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/sfw_recommendations.a sp x

For shrimp, your best bets are US, Canada and Mexico, with a few other sources.
 
2014-01-15 12:40:35 PM  
Massive depeasantization?  Made-up hippie word.
 
2014-01-15 12:43:19 PM  

devildog123: FTA:   "It takes five square miles of cleared mangrove forest to produce just over two pounds of shrimp -- and that land is typically left depleted within ten years and rendered unusable for another forty.

I couldn't imagine that clearing 5 square miles of forest to grow 2 pounds of shrimp would be remotely economically feasible.


I did a GIS and found a clue to the source of the error. Poor reading and editing, but most of all, the inability of some people to translate from metric to American measurements.

The farms are inefficient, producing just one kilogram (2.2 pounds) of shrimp for 13.4 square meters (five square miles) of mangrove, while the ponds created are abandoned in just three to nine years because disease, soil acidification and contamination destroy them, he wrote.

After abandonment, the soil takes 35 to 40 years to recover, he said.
 Source:   http://www.dawn.com/news/696631/tiny-shrimp-leave-giant-carbon-footpr i nt-scientist

The real number is presumably 13.4 square meters per kilogram. Some how somebody took meters for kilometers and got five square miles for 13.4 square kilometers.

Even though the error is glaring, the facts are pretty sad. Three to nine years of production versus 35 to 40 years of recovery (and not full recovery) at that makes shrimp farming almost as costly as banana plantations--you have to keep moving the banana plantations around because once they are infected with the virus that attacks bananas, the land is useless for growing bananas. We lost the best commercial banana, the Gros Michel to this virus and we are at risk of losing the next best, the Cavendish banana, because of it. Banana plants are cloned from a small number of original plants and thus are not only monoculture, but essentially one vulnerable plant.
 
2014-01-15 12:49:34 PM  
"...try and convince..."

Try TO convince
Try TO convince
Try TO convince
Try TO convince
Try TO convince
 
2014-01-15 01:46:31 PM  
varmitydog

Most of the bycatch is immediately thrown back in the water, much of it swimming away. Most anything edible went into the stew pot. There was some waste, but definitely not the ecological disaster insinuated at here. In twenty four years of shrimping I only picked up one turtle, who was very much alive when I threw it overboard.

Not disputing your claim, but here in Florida, we have the huge Indian River Lagoon. In my section of it, as a kid, you could go fishing for a day and bring home enough fresh seafood to last a week or more. We hauled in huge Blue Crabs with a string and raw chicken neck, dug clams, harvested oysters from huge beds and caught all types of fish.

Mullet was so common that it was considered bait fish and a certain times of the year, boating down the lagoon at night was close to boating over a silvery, surface churning layer of the fish. You could scoop them up with a pole net.

Several decades ago, commercial fishing was banned in the lagoon. Game fish started vanishing. The commercial fishermen were hauling in legal fish, but their 'bycatch' included game fish, which they tossed over the side but the survival rate after being dragged around in a trawl net, then dumped on deck was low.

As the population boomed, catch limits had to be placed for sports fishermen and licenses required not only for salt water fishing, but special stamps had to be affixed to the cards to allow you to catch and keep certain game fish.

We used to wait until the winter, (it really used to get cold in Florida then) and go to an old, single lane wooden bridge with a turnstile drawbridge in the center that spanned the beach to the mainland. It was about 5 feet above the water and we used long handled dip nets and gas burning Coleman lamps hung inches above the surface.

The best time was close to midnight, when the north wind was pretty strong and it was colder than shiat out. Everyone bundled up in layers, parked on the island and walked along the bridge to hang over the sides and start scooping up shrimp which were attracted to the lights.

You could go home after a few hours with pounds of fresh shrimp, along with some crabs and fish.

I was a kid then, and I recall freezing my arse off out there, on that dark bridge (it had no electric lights except for navigational ones) over the dark waters, everything strangely lit by lamps hung above the water but below the bridge deck. One thing I do recall, there were never any arguments or fights in the crowd. No drunks. No cars broken into. Just goodnatured companionship.

Now, the population along the lagoon has quadrupled since then. The bridge has been replaced by a modern, cement high rise that doesn't need a drawbridge and even though the local government assured us that the shrimp would not be affected, they were. To make things ever better, from the bank on they angled the bridge so high that no dip net would be long enough to reach the water. Then they dug out the parking areas and put in open drainage ditches.

That really angered a lot of folks, but the governor didn't care.

Today, you can fish all week and be lucky to get enough seafood for a day. Commercial crabbers have the shores lines so thickly with pots that you can nearly walk across them. Oyster and clam beds have been picked clean, many just dredged out to deepen lagoons for high end homes with boat docks.

I haven't seen a Blue Crab big enough to cover both my hands in decades.

Mullet is now on the restricted list.

Basically, far too many people using the lagoon just fished it out and if you look at a map, you'll see it's a huge thing. So many boats are on the waters now that there's a constant rainbow oil slick and on hot days, the off shore winds bring you the delightful scent of burnt diesel, oil and gas.

We had a huge tidal pool, kind of like a meteor crater, which was just packed with huge, delicious oysters. The city covered it over to put a tennis court and walking trail on top along with a massive new public boat ramp.

I don't eat much shrimp anymore, having kind of lost my taste for them. I don't eat clams or oysters (never liked them raw, but fried or in stew) because of the obnoxious prices they go for and pollution is so high in the lagoon, that you need to check before harvesting any -- provided you can find any beds left with enough to make it worth your effort.

The shrimp tasted so much better when I was a kid, hanging over that splintery, wooden rail, feet above the water, gas lamps hissing, exposed skin nearly frozen from the cold and slinging that long pole net around to snatch those lively buggers from the river.

Occasionally, one the size of a lobster would patrol down the line of folks, just out of reach, causing a stir and some people would almost fall in trying to get it, but never did.

We got some good sized shrimp also. They were rinsed and boiled up right when we got home, with most eaten as we defrosted.

I haven't heard old salts talk about a big shrimp catch in decades. Actually, the majority of the Old Salts are gone themselves. Why hang around when the waters you loved have been trashed in the name of progress?
 
2014-01-15 01:47:59 PM  

JaCiNto: [www.alpcentauri.info image 203x239]

Would like to have a word with you....


I can't possibly be the first to point out the resemblance to Kanye West.  Underbite and such.
 
2014-01-15 01:53:57 PM  

devildog123: FTA:   "It takes five square miles of cleared mangrove forest to produce just over two pounds of shrimp -- and that land is typically left depleted within ten years and rendered unusable for another forty.

I couldn't imagine that clearing 5 square miles of forest to grow 2 pounds of shrimp would be remotely economically feasible.


My BS meter pegged when I saw that one as well.
 
2014-01-15 02:27:09 PM  
Chlorine kills fish, but magically not the shrimp.  (Because the amount of chlorine is not terrible)


There's a lot of "We're going to kill all the animals!" in here about dumping toxic chemicals on sea animals that haven't died yet.
 
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