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(CBC)   Man repeatedly confronted by police for public drunkenness. Problem: It's actually Huntington's disease   ( cbc.ca) divider line
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2014-01-14 09:23:47 PM  
I wouldn't wish that disease on a mortal enemy.  Sorry for your condition, dude.
 
2014-01-14 09:27:09 PM  
www.portable-essentials.com
/Just sayin'...
//couldn't hurt, anyway
 
2014-01-14 09:29:23 PM  
The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


MaudlinMutantMollusk: [www.portable-essentials.com image 768x559]
/Just sayin'...
//couldn't hurt, anyway


Yeah, somehow I doubt the cops would believe it anyway.
 
2014-01-14 09:44:48 PM  

fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


MaudlinMutantMollusk: [www.portable-essentials.com image 768x559]
/Just sayin'...
//couldn't hurt, anyway

Yeah, somehow I doubt the cops would believe it anyway.


I think you have to register and provide medical proof, and you also get an ID card that describes your condition
 /I could be wrong

//still couldn't hurt
///you're probably right
 
2014-01-14 10:10:59 PM  
I want to find out if I have this disease. If only I could sober up long enough.
 
2014-01-14 10:12:47 PM  
This sounds horrifying man, my deepest sympathies.

My only advice would be to move to Las Vegas.... there you will be worshipped.
 
2014-01-14 10:14:03 PM  
cops have killed for less than this, watch your back dude.
 
2014-01-14 10:19:26 PM  
There was a story on This American Life last year that talked about a man that ended up in jail for murder and all the time he had Huntington's.  There was a CBC podcast, White Coat Black Art, that followed a Huntington's sufferer until he decided, with his wife's knowledge, to take his own life.  Huntington's disease is evil.
 
2014-01-14 10:24:30 PM  
i1.bebo.com

/yes I know that's Parkinson's
 
2014-01-14 10:25:32 PM  

Trafficguy2000: cops have killed for less than this, watch your back dude.


ya, came here to say...lucky he aint dead yet.

img.ibtimes.com
just ask this dude...oh, wait...he dead.
 
2014-01-14 10:28:10 PM  
A cop will kill him.
 
2014-01-14 10:28:40 PM  
Canadian police escort you home?  Nice.  It seems even the cops up there are nicer than in the US, even when they are being dicks.
 
2014-01-14 10:32:54 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-14 10:33:18 PM  
This might be one of the rare times a forehead tattoo might actually be a good idea. Something to the effect of "I'm NOT drunk! I have Huntington's disease." It's simple, direct, impossible to miss, and would immediately set the tone for any police encounter. Or really any awkward social encounter. I would go this route over any sort of just constantly carried I.D. because you just know dude would get shot trying to pull it out when some Barney Fife thinks he's going for a weapon.

That's a rough road in life, man. Much love.
 
2014-01-14 10:33:27 PM  
So, given that we are reading this, at all, he acts like a sloppy emotional drunk. That's the worst kind.
 
2014-01-14 10:33:35 PM  
Awkwaaaaard
 
2014-01-14 10:35:36 PM  

fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


Not right to arrest him, not that would stop the cops, though.  I wonder what it would take to get the cops to get a little training in critical thinking, but that would mean they would have to hire capable thinkers to begin with.

At least it doesn't sound likes he drives, so he isn't putting anyone in danger.  He could put some of it in perspective, he did get a free ride home.
 
2014-01-14 10:38:54 PM  
A little turrets added in would enhance the potential comedy.

/dnrtfa
 
2014-01-14 10:39:13 PM  
The simple fact is, you walk like a duck. It must suck ass to have this disease but you must realize the position it puts other people in who have absolutely no way of knowing otherise. Exceptions are not the rule because, well, they're exceptions.
 
2014-01-14 10:44:48 PM  
How big is the town?  Is it possible for him to meet with the officers during a morning/afternoon roll call and explain the condition, so they all know him and what it's about?

I feel bad for both "sides" in this one.  The cops are just trying to do their job, and you can't just ignore someone who appears drunk because it might actually be a disease.  You still have to check it out.  And it's a rare enough disease that you can't entirely expect cops to be familiar with it.  And again, even if they are, they still have to investigate.

Of course, it's absolutely horribly and stigmatizing for the person with the disease.  He's got enough to deal with, without having to go through this every time he sets foot outside.  Mortifying.  Would make me want to become a recluse too.  Or scream at the officers after the 15th time.

Sounds like there needs to be a meeting of the minds.
 
2014-01-14 10:46:04 PM  
We had a guy with Huntingtons that would get our ambulance called out all the time because he would have violent outbursts with his family.  Family would call the police, because they couldn't handle him during these outbursts, and of course they would immediately call us.  As he was one of our frequent fliers, we kind of all knew him and how to handle him.  But that's only because we knew him.

The disorder really can present like someone altered on something.  Angry, confused, uncoordinated, and how many other symptoms that, at first blush, would very much look like they were on something.  And when you realize that 90% of the time, police and EMS that see this kind of thing happening are looking at someone who is on something, you can understand why they would make that assumption...

lack of warmth: Not right to arrest him, not that would stop the cops, though.  I wonder what it would take to get the cops to get a little training in critical thinking, but that would mean they would have to hire capable thinkers to begin with.


...I've been wrong before, however.
 
2014-01-14 10:47:51 PM  
I had a teacher in high school that told us there was once a parent who they thought was always coming to school drunk to pick up her kid.  I guess they were concerned enough that they considered calling child protective services until someone told them she had Huntingtons.  Glad that didn't go that far, but man that must suck for people who have it (for many reasons obviously).  It's definitely on the list of worst diseases/disorders you can get.  I wouldn't say it's number one, but it's close.
 
2014-01-14 10:48:30 PM  

fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


It's different because Huntington's isn't voluntary.  It's not like he decided to go to the neighborhood bar and get plastered with Huntington's.

While he should avoid more complicated things like driving, I wouldn't go as far to say he shouldn't be allowed to appear in public at all.
 
2014-01-14 10:50:03 PM  

brimed03: How big is the town?  Is it possible for him to meet with the officers during a morning/afternoon roll call and explain the condition, so they all know him and what it's about?

I feel bad for both "sides" in this one.  The cops are just trying to do their job, and you can't just ignore someone who appears drunk because it might actually be a disease.  You still have to check it out.  And it's a rare enough disease that you can't entirely expect cops to be familiar with it.  And again, even if they are, they still have to investigate.

Of course, it's absolutely horribly and stigmatizing for the person with the disease.  He's got enough to deal with, without having to go through this every time he sets foot outside.  Mortifying.  Would make me want to become a recluse too.  Or scream at the officers after the 15th time.


Sounds like there needs to be a meeting of the minds.

I dunno. The guy with the neurodegenerative disease might have an unfair advantage over the average cop.
 
2014-01-14 10:55:41 PM  
So... how often in this town with 11 police officers dies this happen? I'm one of fifty in a town of 30,000. I know every "regular" by their first name and their drug of choice and most of their specific mental disorders. After the first encounter with this guy and email would get sent out and the whole department would know his issue and whether he needed or expected any help from us when out and about. For those of you who wouldn't accept that the cops would ever do anything for altruistic motives or, you know, a desire to to a good job, you can chalk it up to laziness. I'd much rather tell my dispatcher "oh, that's Bob, he's fine, I'm not gonna respond" when some passerby calls him in as drunk.
 
2014-01-14 10:57:13 PM  

upndn: A little turrets added in would enhance the potential comedy.

/dnrtfa


With lasers or flamethrowers?
 
2014-01-14 11:06:45 PM  

fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


MaudlinMutantMollusk: [www.portable-essentials.com image 768x559]
/Just sayin'...
//couldn't hurt, anyway

Yeah, somehow I doubt the cops would believe it anyway.


It's different in that it's a completely different thing, and not illegal? How hard is that to understand? There is no law against being in public with impaired motor skills and cognition. There ARE laws against being drunk in public (although there shouldn't be, really...I don't see how it's an issue unless you're being a nuisance, in which case disorderly conduct ought to cover it).
 
2014-01-14 11:08:52 PM  
I had a cousin who died at the absurdly young age of 24 from Huntington's. I will never be able to forget how she moved and spoke during her last year of mobility. It was deeply upsetting, to say the least.

There are only eleven cops. They must all know that there is a man, who appears to be drunk, who repeatedly tells them that he has Huntington's. Either they don't believe him and think he is just a very consistent liar, or they don't understand what Huntington's is, and that this man is going to slowly turn into a vegetable and be aware that he is slowly turning into a vegetable.

I cannot express how much hatred I am feeling right now towards these cops. I need a drink or five.
 
2014-01-14 11:16:00 PM  
Feels his pain.

i28.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-14 11:25:44 PM  
Not making this story about me... but...

My great-grandmother, grandfather, father, and aunt all died of Huntington's. My sister has it. My cousin is at risk and does not know if she has it or not. I've been tested and do not have it...

It destroyed an entire half of my family- it was the worst for my grandmother, she had to see her husband (my grandfather) and her 2 children (my father and my aunt) die of it. She died a very depressed and angry woman...

It's a horrible, horrible disease. And it's especially cruel because unless you get tested you start showing symptoms at an age where you've likely had children and now they have a 50/50 risk of inheriting it... And if you get tested and you have it there is really nothing that can be done to delay symptoms or treat it...

I feel like I won the lottery when I tested negative... although I did have a few years of survivor guilt...

My sister and I are not close but when our father was sick and before she had symptoms she would get him from the nursing home on weekends and take him home. Sometimes she'd take him out for pizza or ice cream... Little kids would be scared and she would explain that he was sick and was not scary... When some teenage punk or young adult would make a comment or laugh she would go ballistic and the cops had to come out several times to break it up... I'll always give her credit for that.

Long story short- the cops should learn about this disease and know his situation- it's rare enough that there can't be a lot of people in town with it, he's probably the only one. And they should do what they can to let him live as normal a life as he can for as long as he can....
 
2014-01-14 11:28:36 PM  

brimed03: How big is the town?


Tiny. Like abysmally tiny.  The bus station is a convenience store.  There are three major industries in Spring hill, a prison, nursing homes and the Anne Murray museum.  It's an old coal mining town that no longer has a mine.  I heard this man on the radio this afternoon and he seemed like he could converse rather well despite the slurring speech.  He only sounded drunk if you were not actually listening to what he was saying and only heard the sound of his voice.  He actually went to the police station when he moved to town to tell them specifically about his condition because this is a common problem for people with Huntingtons. Apparently that just triggered their bully instincts to pick on the most vulnerable people they can.
 
2014-01-14 11:30:37 PM  

Whazzits: I had a cousin who died at the absurdly young age of 24 from Huntington's. I will never be able to forget how she moved and spoke during her last year of mobility. It was deeply upsetting, to say the least.

There are only eleven cops. They must all know that there is a man, who appears to be drunk, who repeatedly tells them that he has Huntington's. Either they don't believe him and think he is just a very consistent liar, or they don't understand what Huntington's is, and that this man is going to slowly turn into a vegetable and be aware that he is slowly turning into a vegetable.

I cannot express how much hatred I am feeling right now towards these cops. I need a drink or five.



Have 5 for me as well...
 
2014-01-14 11:36:35 PM  

Mnemia: fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


MaudlinMutantMollusk: [www.portable-essentials.com image 768x559]
/Just sayin'...
//couldn't hurt, anyway

Yeah, somehow I doubt the cops would believe it anyway.

It's different in that it's a completely different thing, and not illegal? How hard is that to understand? There is no law against being in public with impaired motor skills and cognition. There ARE laws against being drunk in public (although there shouldn't be, really...I don't see how it's an issue unless you're being a nuisance, in which case disorderly conduct ought to cover it).


That was kinda my point.
 
2014-01-14 11:36:52 PM  
Walk with a cane or a forearm crutch.  Problem solved.
 
2014-01-14 11:39:07 PM  

rev. dave: Canadian police escort you home?  Nice.  It seems even the cops up there are nicer than in the US, even when they are being dicks.


Not this guy. Lahey is a dick!


thebrotherhoodofevilgeeks.files.wordpress.com
 
zez
2014-01-14 11:44:10 PM  

MustardTiger: rev. dave: Canadian police escort you home?  Nice.  It seems even the cops up there are nicer than in the US, even when they are being dicks.

Not this guy. Lahey is a dick!


[thebrotherhoodofevilgeeks.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]


But he got fired so now he's just the trailer park supervisor. Wait, he isn't even that any more...

/do I smell a shiatstorm
 
2014-01-14 11:44:55 PM  
MedicAlert bracelets don't really mean shiat.

I've twice now been in medical crisis (once in the hospital, and once walking around a fairground) and nobody gave a damn about my MedicAlert ID card/necklace.  This was especially frustrating in the former case (when I was in the hospital) because they wanted to know what medicines I was taking and wouldn't just call the MedicAlert 800 number and ask them: they had my significant other run home and grab the medicine.  Even though I told them my MedicAlert record is current and updated.

I just gave up and didn't renew this year.  fark it, if nobody's going to check it, I might as well just save my money.
 
zez
2014-01-15 12:26:15 AM  

feedle: MedicAlert bracelets don't really mean shiat.

I've twice now been in medical crisis (once in the hospital, and once walking around a fairground) and nobody gave a damn about my MedicAlert ID card/necklace.  This was especially frustrating in the former case (when I was in the hospital) because they wanted to know what medicines I was taking and wouldn't just call the MedicAlert 800 number and ask them: they had my significant other run home and grab the medicine.  Even though I told them my MedicAlert record is current and updated.

I just gave up and didn't renew this year.  fark it, if nobody's going to check it, I might as well just save my money.


My wife got me a Road ID http://www.roadid.com/Common/default.aspx for Christmas for me to wear out on my bike rides. I figure it's just about as useless, but at least it has my name and someone to call if I'm in an accident and it's probably less likely to be stolen than my drivers license and cell phone.
 
2014-01-15 12:45:50 AM  
Jennifer Petkov cackles with delight.
 
2014-01-15 12:46:04 AM  

Whazzits: here are only eleven cops. They must all know that there is a man, who appears to be drunk, who repeatedly tells them that he has Huntington's. Either they don't believe him and think he is just a very consistent liar, or they don't understand what Huntington's is, and that this man is going to slowly turn into a vegetable and be aware that he is slowly turning into a vegetable.


They don't know what Huntington's is and they can't be arsed to find out. It's more fun to pick on the guy.
 
2014-01-15 01:16:41 AM  
I have Huntington's disease, so I'm getting an involuntary kick out of this.

Also, my mother has Huntington's too, and she gets accused of being drunk when she's just severely disabled.

/Still got a couple of decades left.
//Let the good times roll.
 
2014-01-15 01:21:36 AM  

havana_joe: Not making this story about me... but...

My great-grandmother, grandfather, father, and aunt all died of Huntington's. My sister has it. My cousin is at risk and does not know if she has it or not. I've been tested and do not have it...

It destroyed an entire half of my family- it was the worst for my grandmother, she had to see her husband (my grandfather) and her 2 children (my father and my aunt) die of it. She died a very depressed and angry woman...

It's a horrible, horrible disease. And it's especially cruel because unless you get tested you start showing symptoms at an age where you've likely had children and now they have a 50/50 risk of inheriting it... And if you get tested and you have it there is really nothing that can be done to delay symptoms or treat it...

I feel like I won the lottery when I tested negative... although I did have a few years of survivor guilt...

My sister and I are not close but when our father was sick and before she had symptoms she would get him from the nursing home on weekends and take him home. Sometimes she'd take him out for pizza or ice cream... Little kids would be scared and she would explain that he was sick and was not scary... When some teenage punk or young adult would make a comment or laugh she would go ballistic and the cops had to come out several times to break it up... I'll always give her credit for that.

Long story short- the cops should learn about this disease and know his situation- it's rare enough that there can't be a lot of people in town with it, he's probably the only one. And they should do what they can to let him live as normal a life as he can for as long as he can....


It's horrible. I've lost 4 cousins and an uncle to Huntington's, I feel your pain. My one cousin went from a proud Marine to wheelchair bound and unable to speak in five years. My condolences to you and your family. It's a supremely unfair disease.
 
2014-01-15 01:23:12 AM  

cryinoutloud: They don't know what Huntington's is and they can't be arsed to find out. It's more fun to pick on the guy.


I think Occam's Razor would say that they just didn't know what it was, and went with what was the most common explanation for the symptoms they were seeing, rather than some grand conspiracy to bully a cripple.  

I'm a medically trained person, and even I suspected drunk or high when I first saw advanced Huntingtons.  It's not something you see every day, where someone being positive ETOH very much is.  I wouldn't expect a couple of non-medically trained police officers (outside of basic CPR and first aid) in the middle of BFE to know what they were looking at right away.  Besides, the article says where the man lives, but not necessarily where all of this incidents supposedly took place.  Yes, the folks in his town would maybe know him enough, but what about the next town over?  Are we really going to expect everyone in the surrounding communities to run around town with a picture of him on their dash that says "Not Drunk" at all times?
 
2014-01-15 01:25:24 AM  

Crosma: I have Huntington's disease, so I'm getting an involuntary kick out of this.

Also, my mother has Huntington's too, and she gets accused of being drunk when she's just severely disabled.

/Still got a couple of decades left.
//Let the good times roll.


Jeez, man. I don't want to say "I'm Sorry," since that feels too pitying, but there isn't really much else to say.  At least you seem to have a healthy attitude about it.  Here's hoping for the best for you that you're an extremely late bloomer.
 
2014-01-15 01:34:39 AM  

Crosma: I have Huntington's disease, so I'm getting an involuntary kick out of this.

Also, my mother has Huntington's too, and she gets accused of being drunk when she's just severely disabled.

/Still got a couple of decades left.
//Let the good times roll.


Sorry to hear that. I stumble around while slurring my words too. Do you drink? Might as well take advantage while you can.
 
2014-01-15 01:55:03 AM  

Shadowknight: cryinoutloud: They don't know what Huntington's is and they can't be arsed to find out. It's more fun to pick on the guy.

I think Occam's Razor would say that they just didn't know what it was, and went with what was the most common explanation for the symptoms they were seeing, rather than some grand conspiracy to bully a cripple.

I'm a medically trained person, and even I suspected drunk or high when I first saw advanced Huntingtons.  It's not something you see every day, where someone being positive ETOH very much is.  I wouldn't expect a couple of non-medically trained police officers (outside of basic CPR and first aid) in the middle of BFE to know what they were looking at right away.  Besides, the article says where the man lives, but not necessarily where all of this incidents supposedly took place.  Yes, the folks in his town would maybe know him enough, but what about the next town over?  Are we really going to expect everyone in the surrounding communities to run around town with a picture of him on their dash that says "Not Drunk" at all times?


Occam might suggest to the cops that a drunk person would normally smell like booze.
 
2014-01-15 02:05:45 AM  

Bumblefark: Occam might suggest to the cops that a drunk person would normally smell like booze.


There are times when no, they do not smell like a brewery/distillery.  In fact, there are other intoxicants that give you a similar effect without smelling like anything at all.

cdn3.sbnation.com
 
2014-01-15 02:05:50 AM  

Bumblefark: Occam might suggest to the cops that a drunk person would normally smell like booze.


Occam's twin bladed razor says, it's hard to smell a drunk, when you've been drinking too.
 
2014-01-15 02:07:34 AM  

gibbon1: Occam's twin bladed razor says, it's hard to smell a drunk, when you've been drinking too.


Well, there's that too.
 
2014-01-15 02:23:04 AM  

lack of warmth: fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?

Not right to arrest him, not that would stop the cops, though.  I wonder what it would take to get the cops to get a little training in critical thinking, but that would mean they would have to hire capable thinkers to begin with.

At least it doesn't sound likes he drives, so he isn't putting anyone in danger.  He could put some of it in perspective, he did get a free ride home.


It wouldn't stop the cops, except for, you know, all the incidents mentioned in THE farkING ARTICLE where nobody was arrested.

Far too many cops are dicks, but you might want to take a class on critical thinking yourself.
 
2014-01-15 02:26:01 AM  
On the overall subject: if you have the gene for it, just adopt.

It can be tested and we could rid ourselves of the entire problem in a generation.
 
2014-01-15 02:40:01 AM  

Shadowknight: Bumblefark: Occam might suggest to the cops that a drunk person would normally smell like booze.

There are times when no, they do not smell like a brewery/distillery.  In fact, there are other intoxicants that give you a similar effect without smelling like anything at all.

[cdn3.sbnation.com image 320x210]


Yeah, I'm going to have to call bullshiat.

"Reasonable suspicion" isn't a game of hypotheticals. If somebody is drunk enough to be stumbling around and slurring, yes -- you can normally smell it. Especially if they are moving about, out in the daylight. And if you can't smell it, you might have medical issues of your own. Alcohol is not a terribly subtle drug. If you believe otherwise, you probably haven't spent much time around drunks.

But, hey -- let's move on to the "other intoxicants." Name one that (1) imitates alcohol intoxication, (2) that doesn't put off a distinctive smell on the user, and (3) doesn't normally associate with any other tell-tale sign beyond motor impairment, which an adequately trained cop wouldn't be able to recognize.
 
2014-01-15 03:01:34 AM  

Shadowknight: gibbon1: Occam's twin bladed razor says, it's hard to smell a drunk, when you've been drinking too.

Well, there's that too.


*SNORT*

Oh, hell...even I can smell the booze on me.

You all is high.
 
2014-01-15 03:53:00 AM  
Thanks for the kind words.

Smackledorfer: On the overall subject: if you have the gene for it, just adopt.

It can be tested and we could rid ourselves of the entire problem in a generation.

Me and my wife are having a daughter in a couple of months. It's already been tested and is clean. Science.

Everyone's CAG repeats tend to get worse generation by generation. Half of mine are just too sucky. My point is that it'll keep coming back.
 
2014-01-15 03:54:28 AM  
Had something similar happen to me, a couple times.  Only happened with middle of nowhere local-yokels though.

Traumatic brain injury from an IED in Iraq, so comprehension and such is thrown off.  I can't say the alphabet backwards, or do the whole "63 to 48 in reverse" bit.  The physical tests, like walking down a line or standing on one foot I also tend to fail, due to joint injury in the legs.

I've had cops pull the "suspicion" bit, I blow 0.0 on the meter, and they still drag me in to test for "other" drugs.  Thankfully, my landlord is also a lawyer, fellow vet, and is quite happy to be on retainer for $5. One chat with him, and within a couple hours I was free.
 
2014-01-15 06:51:49 AM  
Saw this on the local news last night. Springhill is a small town with fewer than 4,000 people in it. Surely the eleven police officers should know him by now. Good grief.

/would not wish Huntington's on my worst enemy.
 
2014-01-15 07:51:20 AM  

Sass-O-Rev: Saw this on the local news last night. Springhill is a small town with fewer than 4,000 people in it. Surely the eleven police officers should know him by now. Good grief.

/would not wish Huntington's on my worst enemy.


From whati read in the article, they never mentioned where these incidents all took place. Did the news report say that it all took place in the one town? Or did some of it happen elsewhere?

Because yes, local police may know the guy. Police in the adjacent towns maybe not so much.
 
2014-01-15 10:06:42 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think you have to register and provide medical proof, and you also get an ID card that describes your condition


Not really. There are exceptions where you do actually provide a medical history, but for common ones like diabetic and penicillin allergy, you can buy them for under $10 at you local pharmacy, no questions asked. For not-so-common ones like Huntington's or hemophiliac, you can order them engraved with your choice of wording for not much more. You can even get them in 14K gold and silver.

/diabetic
//low blood sugar present with similar symptoms

vodka: The simple fact is, you walk like a duck. It must suck ass to have this disease but you must realize the position it puts other people in who have absolutely no way of knowing otherise. Exceptions are not the rule because, well, they're exceptions.


Too bad there isn't a simple field sobriety test.
 
2014-01-15 10:20:58 AM  

okiemule: Not really. There are exceptions where you do actually provide a medical history, but for common ones like diabetic and penicillin allergy, you can buy them for under $10 at you local pharmacy, no questions asked. For not-so-common ones like Huntington's or hemophiliac, you can order them engraved with your choice of wording for not much more. You can even get them in 14K gold and silver.

/diabetic
//low blood sugar present with similar symptoms


*fistbump*

/just getting mine evened out
//cratered a couple of times, leading to much fun and frivolity
///especially at work
 
2014-01-15 10:52:02 AM  

BafflerMeal: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 602x341]


I'd hop on Thirteen and ride the shakes any day.
 
2014-01-15 11:00:27 AM  

walkerhound: [i1.bebo.com image 500x183]

/yes I know that's Parkinson's


drrobinmayfield.com

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prepforshtf.com

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cllctr.com
 
2014-01-15 11:19:04 AM  

Shadowknight: cryinoutloud: They don't know what Huntington's is and they can't be arsed to find out. It's more fun to pick on the guy.

I think Occam's Razor would say that they just didn't know what it was, and went with what was the most common explanation for the symptoms they were seeing, rather than some grand conspiracy to bully a cripple.
I'm a medically trained person, and even I suspected drunk or high when I first saw advanced Huntingtons.  It's not something you see every day, where someone being positive ETOH very much is.  I wouldn't expect a couple of non-medically trained police officers (outside of basic CPR and first aid) in the middle of BFE to know what they were looking at right away.  Besides, the article says where the man lives, but not necessarily where all of this incidents supposedly took place.  Yes, the folks in his town would maybe know him enough, but what about the next town over?  Are we really going to expect everyone in the surrounding communities to run around town with a picture of him on their dash that says "Not Drunk" at all times?


I hate cops, and I have good reasons for it, not just Fark threads. So guess what my Occam's razor says?
 
2014-01-15 12:55:38 PM  

Crosma: Thanks for the kind words.

Smackledorfer: On the overall subject: if you have the gene for it, just adopt.

It can be tested and we could rid ourselves of the entire problem in a generation.

Me and my wife are having a daughter in a couple of months. It's already been tested and is clean. Science.

Everyone's CAG repeats tend to get worse generation by generation. Half of mine are just too sucky. My point is that it'll keep coming back.


I stand corrected then. By science!
 
2014-01-15 12:56:55 PM  

cryinoutloud: Shadowknight: cryinoutloud: They don't know what Huntington's is and they can't be arsed to find out. It's more fun to pick on the guy.

I think Occam's Razor would say that they just didn't know what it was, and went with what was the most common explanation for the symptoms they were seeing, rather than some grand conspiracy to bully a cripple.
I'm a medically trained person, and even I suspected drunk or high when I first saw advanced Huntingtons.  It's not something you see every day, where someone being positive ETOH very much is.  I wouldn't expect a couple of non-medically trained police officers (outside of basic CPR and first aid) in the middle of BFE to know what they were looking at right away.  Besides, the article says where the man lives, but not necessarily where all of this incidents supposedly took place.  Yes, the folks in his town would maybe know him enough, but what about the next town over?  Are we really going to expect everyone in the surrounding communities to run around town with a picture of him on their dash that says "Not Drunk" at all times?

I hate cops, and I have good reasons for it, not just Fark threads. So guess what my Occam's razor says?


It says you don't understand Occam's razor or basic statistics.
 
2014-01-15 03:10:39 PM  

fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


MaudlinMutantMollusk: [www.portable-essentials.com image 768x559]
/Just sayin'...
//couldn't hurt, anyway

Yeah, somehow I doubt the cops would believe it anyway.


I agree with the first part and hope he is never using a motor vehicle.   However,  to the second he should talk to the local police and organise a time to go in and explain his situation.  That way when they see him they will know the situation.      I would suspect with such a disablility he would be staying local and as such it wouldn't take long for the police to recognise him and understand the situation.
 
2014-01-15 04:51:45 PM  

fusillade762: The officers would ask me questions and it would take me quite some time to answer because I have issues with comprehension

So you have a condition that affects your motor skills and cognition in virtually the same way as being drunk? How is that different from actually being drunk?


MaudlinMutantMollusk: [www.portable-essentials.com image 768x559]
/Just sayin'...
//couldn't hurt, anyway

Yeah, somehow I doubt the cops would believe it anyway.


Having a disease, as long as it does not leave him a danger to himself or others, is not a crime. We don't live in Erehwon. If he is mentally competent and walking, not driving, then these hassles bring up a serious quality of life issue for this man and a constitutional issue as far as the harassment goes.

What he should do is contact the local police chief and explain what is happening. If the police chief is a halfway decent human being he will let the officers know and things should get better. Also carry something to document the condition. If he still gets hassled then he sues.
 
2014-01-15 08:18:42 PM  
As a person myself with parkinsons mild tho .Yes I do sometimes take a bt of extra time to answer things.And I stumbles while walking.i am getting a big laff from this thread. Thnks for making my day!
 
2014-01-16 09:37:39 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: okiemule: Not really. There are exceptions where you do actually provide a medical history, but for common ones like diabetic and penicillin allergy, you can buy them for under $10 at you local pharmacy, no questions asked. For not-so-common ones like Huntington's or hemophiliac, you can order them engraved with your choice of wording for not much more. You can even get them in 14K gold and silver.

/diabetic
//low blood sugar present with similar symptoms

*fistbump*

/just getting mine evened out
//cratered a couple of times, leading to much fun and frivolity
///especially at work


I was diagnosed in '95, and I still have "those" days. Better than it used to be, but still sucks. I'm Type I, and have been on the needle since the start, which doesn't help.

Once, back when Mrs. Mule (she's actually the okie part, as I'm from the great state of Misery) first started dating, we worked together as cashiers in a small grocery store. One night, not long after being diagnosed, I was having a sugar low, it was busy, and my break was an hour off. Much fun was had when she found out that our night manager refused to let me grab a snack. Good times.

Now, I found this container that holds 4 glucose tablets and hangs on my keychain for a couple bucks at Wal-Mart. Perfect dosing, and extremely convenient for the occasional sugar low. To be honest, I don't know which I hate worse - highs or lows. Both make me feel crappy and grumpy. Nothing like "coming to" and realizing your wife is freaking out because you're awake but not responding to her or making sense (sugar low). It didn't help that freaking out caused her to mis-read the code that pops up when you insert your test strip as my current blood sugar - the code was 300+.

/ugh to that feeling
//of course, she was there in the beginning, and she's stuck with me over the past 17+ years, so I got lucky
///:)
 
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