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2014-01-14 05:09:54 PM
This article is terribly written. What the hell is going on?
 
2014-01-14 05:10:33 PM
Dumbass wife told the cop the gun "might be in the glove box", of course he was detained! What a dumbass, you never volunteer information to cops and never speak in theories.
 
2014-01-14 05:22:31 PM
First Kally says, "I don't know." Retelling it later she says, "And that's all I should have said." Instead, attempting to be helpful, she added, "Maybe in the glove [box] "

Wow.  Talk about a lack of prior planning.

The guy was going to talk his way out of a ticket by showing the cop his CC.  That only works in a state where it's valid.  Otherwise YOU DON'T MENTION IT.

And then he doesn't clue his wife in first?

Yikes.
 
2014-01-14 05:37:37 PM
I'm not sure of a lot of things, but one thing I'm 100% sure about: the version of events given in the article is not accurate.
 
2014-01-14 05:40:50 PM

Marcus Aurelius: The guy was going to talk his way out of a ticket by showing the cop his CC.


This article was horribly written, but I don't see anywhere that he showed anything but his DL and registration.

I wonder why he was stopped in the first place. And what was the warning he received? This writer needs a swift kick in the dick.
 
2014-01-14 06:12:38 PM

skinnycatullus: Marcus Aurelius: The guy was going to talk his way out of a ticket by showing the cop his CC.

This article was horribly written, but I don't see anywhere that he showed anything but his DL and registration.

I wonder why he was stopped in the first place. And what was the warning he received? This writer needs a swift kick in the dick.


I only surmised this because I have some friends that pull this all the time.  On PA police.  Where they're legally allowed to carry.  After being pulled over for doing 85 in a 55.
 
2014-01-14 06:15:33 PM

Marcus Aurelius: And then he doesn't clue his wife in first?


Clue in his wife about what? The gun is in a safe in another state. I'm thinking that getting pulled over because he has a concealed weapon permit is the LAST thing on his mind.
 
2014-01-14 06:17:43 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: Marcus Aurelius: And then he doesn't clue his wife in first?

Clue in his wife about what? The gun is in a safe in another state. I'm thinking that getting pulled over because he has a concealed weapon permit is the LAST thing on his mind.


I seriously doubt that's why he was pulled over.  And I don't see how the Maryland state police have access to CC info on a Florida resident.  But then who knows.
 
2014-01-14 07:14:29 PM

Gecko Gingrich: I'm not sure of a lot of things, but one thing I'm 100% sure about: the version of events given in the article is not accurate.


What, you mean an article that ends with this:

But let's hope John Filippidis, American family man, taxpayer and good guy, doesn't cave, because it would be a sad statement about the brittleness of our guarantees - some would call them sacred - under the Constitution.

might be kinda biased?
 
2014-01-14 07:33:03 PM
Look at his kids names. He was pulled over for doing the exact speed limit while dark.
 
2014-01-14 08:41:52 PM

Gig103: Dumbass wife told the cop the gun "might be in the glove box", of course he was detained! What a dumbass, you never volunteer information to cops and never speak in theories.


bongo
bingo

But why did he pig KNOW he owned a firearm?
 
2014-01-14 08:43:59 PM
"And I carry cash a lot of the time. I'm constantly going to the bank."

Thanks for the tip.
 
2014-01-14 08:50:14 PM
based on all these comments, it looks like even though we see dozens of articles a week here on Fark showing police doing illegal, immoral, intimidating asshole things to other people, we don't believe it can happen to a responsible gun owner just because he is a gun owner.

every time a story like this gets posted, the uneducated idiot liberal brigade goes on and on about how theres no way it could have happened like the story says.

You liberal shiatheads need to die in a fire. you're destroying everything that is good in life and this country with your rampant unchecked satanic hypocrisy. seriously, you are mind-farked. brainwashed. you deserve the everlasting torment you will get after you march right up and DEMAND to be given the mark of the beast when it comes out.

and im sure you'll call me a troll or a religious fanatic etc. that's fine; i know where you're going, and pretending i'm crazy or that it wont happen to you will not stop it from happening to you.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-01-14 08:54:00 PM
He was probably driving an expensive car from another state.  If he was pulled over outside the harbor tunnel he was on route 95 which is notorious for running drugs up the east coast.

He was very likely profiled.  There is no doubt Maryland police have access to firearms permit licenses from other states.  The Florida license allows the gun owner to carry in multiple states down the south east including Virginia (I think).  It's a big issue here in Maryland that many gun owners are furious they can't carry with the Florida permit.  I've seen booths at Maryland gun shows accepting applications for Florida carry permits for Maryland residents so they can carry when out of the state.

Maryland is a bizarre state, they have task forces that travel into surrounding states and spy on Marylanders who are buying tobacco, furniture, alcohol etc.  Then they arrest you when you cross the state line.  Last new years eve I spent the evening with a cop who did just that.  His job is travel out of state and video record Marylanders purchasing cigarettes at specific stores, then pass that intelligence onto the patrol cars across the border.  You're only allowed to cross the state line with two packs of cigarettes. IT'S A FELONY TO BRING MORE THAN TWO PACKS ACROSS THE STATE LINE.  THE PENALTY IS 2 YEARS PRISON TIME!

He said he has been been tasked with monitoring (in plain clothes) the local flea markets for the sale of household cleaners.  He explained that it's illegal in the state of Maryland to sell cleaning supplies at flea markets  without a business license (I had never heard of that).

So, do I think Maryland can and will pull up data on out of state gun licensees? You're damn right I do.
 
2014-01-14 09:05:57 PM
So with a CCW, a white guys can now be treated like a brown person.

That's regressive.
 
2014-01-14 09:09:09 PM
Didn't an MD state trooper pull over one of the 9/11 hijackers on their way to the airport?

/baltimore resident, go through the tunnels all the time, no problems.
 
2014-01-14 09:09:42 PM
Sounds like the wife freaked out.
 
2014-01-14 09:10:48 PM
That blog sucked.
 
2014-01-14 09:15:54 PM
It's possible the cop ran the plates and saw that the registered owner of the vehicle possesses a CCW. In Ohio (I don't know about Florida), CCW is tied to vehicle registration.
 
2014-01-14 09:17:06 PM
There are cops out there who will search a car if they see your CCW and you don't have a gun to produce.  I leave mine at home when I don't have a gun with me.

/I only have one to facilitate purchases, sales and transportation I never actually carry.
 
2014-01-14 09:18:59 PM

Livingroom: based on all these comments, it looks like even though we see dozens of articles a week here on Fark showing police doing illegal, immoral, intimidating asshole things to other people, we don't believe it can happen to a responsible gun owner just because he is a gun owner.

every time a story like this gets posted, the uneducated idiot liberal brigade goes on and on about how theres no way it could have happened like the story says.

You liberal shiatheads need to die in a fire. you're destroying everything that is good in life and this country with your rampant unchecked satanic hypocrisy. seriously, you are mind-farked. brainwashed. you deserve the everlasting torment you will get after you march right up and DEMAND to be given the mark of the beast when it comes out.

and im sure you'll call me a troll or a religious fanatic etc. that's fine; i know where you're going, and pretending i'm crazy or that it wont happen to you will not stop it from happening to you.


eccdn1.blog.nuffnang.com.my
 
2014-01-14 09:22:54 PM
FTA: John is wondering if he shouldn't just cancel his CCW license.

We suppose that he'd be getting rid of the gun as well, but maybe he's just getting rid of the documentation.

Livingroom: based on all these comments, it looks like even though we see dozens of articles a week here on Fark showing police doing illegal, immoral, intimidating asshole things to other people, we don't believe it can happen to a responsible gun owner just because he is a gun owner.

every time a story like this gets posted, the uneducated idiot liberal brigade goes on and on about how theres no way it could have happened like the story says.

You liberal shiatheads need to die in a fire. you're destroying everything that is good in life and this country with your rampant unchecked satanic hypocrisy. seriously, you are mind-farked. brainwashed. you deserve the everlasting torment you will get after you march right up and DEMAND to be given the mark of the beast when it comes out.

and im sure you'll call me a troll or a religious fanatic etc. that's fine; i know where you're going, and pretending i'm crazy or that it wont happen to you will not stop it from happening to you.


Where'd you steal that silly rant that has nothing to do with this article or any of the comments before yours?
 
2014-01-14 09:38:59 PM

vudukungfu: Gig103:

But why did [Officer Friendly] KNOW he owned a firearm?


Guessing that he didn't even have to run the plate.  An automated license plate reader probably checked it, flagged the concealed carry permit, and then the central database displayed the vehicle with heightened threat status to the proximate officer's display, causing him to pull them over fishing for a gun charge.

Out west in a shall-issue state where the CHL list is supposedly not linked to the motor vehicle database, and in all years with CHL never had a LEO ask where the firearm was.
 
2014-01-14 09:39:27 PM
The mere fact that you own a gun is reason to drag you out of the car and initiate a pat-down?  That's total horseshiat.

/Maryland's "commonsense" gun control in action
 
2014-01-14 09:44:12 PM
People scoff, but tough gun control like this is why even large cities in Maryland, such as Baltimore, experience such low rates of violent crime.
 
2014-01-14 09:46:33 PM

Livingroom: based on all these comments, it looks like even though we see dozens of articles a week here on Fark showing police doing illegal, immoral, intimidating asshole things to other people, we don't believe it can happen to a responsible gun owner just because he is a gun owner.

every time a story like this gets posted, the uneducated idiot liberal brigade goes on and on about how theres no way it could have happened like the story says.

You liberal shiatheads need to die in a fire. you're destroying everything that is good in life and this country with your rampant unchecked satanic hypocrisy. seriously, you are mind-farked. brainwashed. you deserve the everlasting torment you will get after you march right up and DEMAND to be given the mark of the beast when it comes out.

and im sure you'll call me a troll or a religious fanatic etc. that's fine; i know where you're going, and pretending i'm crazy or that it wont happen to you will not stop it from happening to you.


Thanks for that. I needed a good laugh.
 
2014-01-14 09:48:33 PM

Dimensio: People scoff, but tough gun control like this is why even large cities in Maryland, such as Baltimore, experience such low rates of violent crime.


(^O^)

Ha!
 
2014-01-14 10:03:13 PM

jaylectricity: Where'd you steal that silly rant that has nothing to do with this article or any of the comments before yours?


I think it's original work. Google doesn't come up with a single instance of the phrase "satanic hypocrisy".
 
2014-01-14 11:39:48 PM

Dimensio: People scoff, but tough gun control like this is why even large cities in Maryland, such as Baltimore, experience such low rates of violent crime.


LOL.

I have driven through Baltimore and it was one of the scariest looking shiatholes I have ever been through.

/Grew up in East L.A.
//Did delivery work in the scary parts of Dallas
///Frequented the strip club district in Lawton, OK while in the Army
////End shiathole expert cred
 
2014-01-14 11:43:01 PM

fusillade762: Google doesn't come up with a single instance of the phrase "satanic hypocrisy".


Well, if you think about it, it is pretty hypocritical for Satan to be a liberal gun grabber. Not really compatible with his established oeuvre.
 
2014-01-15 12:02:57 AM
It's ironic that the law called the Firearm Owner's Protection Act established the safe-travel provisions for gun owners that are now routinely ignored by state police looking to harass people.

I don't like the fact that we've become a tiered society where some people have special privileges because of their position. I firmly believe that the police should be treated the exact same as everyone else when it comes to weapons- if the cops are allowed to have assault rifles, grenade launchers, and spring-loaded knives, then everyone else should be allowed to as well. If you don't want your average Joe to have it, then the cops can't have it as well.

This is exactly how our country worked up until 1986, and it seemed to have gone pretty well up to then.

There are legitimate weapons of war that should only be used by soldiers in war zones, and I'm OK with that. The fact that our military has tanks and assault rifles doesn't meant that I should have a tank or an assault rifle. There was a time when the police did not differentiate between themselves and civilians, because they were civilians.

We are too obsessed with stopping crime in this country.
 
2014-01-15 12:08:07 AM
I'm getting confused; what's the gun-nut narrative right now?  Are they pro police or anti police?  It seems to change week to week.
 
2014-01-15 12:09:12 AM
Yup, happened just like that guy said it did. THANKS OBAMA!
 
2014-01-15 12:10:30 AM

Dimensio: People scoff, but tough gun control like this is why even large cities in Maryland, such as Baltimore, experience such low rates of violent crime.


www.killthehydra.com
 
2014-01-15 12:10:31 AM

Beerguy: Dimensio: People scoff, but tough gun control like this is why even large cities in Maryland, such as Baltimore, experience such low rates of violent crime.

LOL.

I have driven through Baltimore and it was one of the scariest looking shiatholes I have ever been through.

/Grew up in East L.A.
//Did delivery work in the scary parts of Dallas
///Frequented the strip club district in Lawton, OK while in the Army
////End shiathole expert cred


Ft. Sill represent!
 
2014-01-15 12:11:34 AM

Livingroom: based on all these comments, it looks like even though we see dozens of articles a week here on Fark showing police doing illegal, immoral, intimidating asshole things to other people, we don't believe it can happen to a responsible gun owner just because he is a gun owner.

every time a story like this gets posted, the uneducated idiot liberal brigade goes on and on about how theres no way it could have happened like the story says.

You liberal shiatheads need to die in a fire. you're destroying everything that is good in life and this country with your rampant unchecked satanic hypocrisy. seriously, you are mind-farked. brainwashed. you deserve the everlasting torment you will get after you march right up and DEMAND to be given the mark of the beast when it comes out.

and im sure you'll call me a troll or a religious fanatic etc. that's fine; i know where you're going, and pretending i'm crazy or that it wont happen to you will not stop it from happening to you.


You.....do.......sound.......CRAZY!!!!
 
2014-01-15 12:12:36 AM
Ah, the pretext stop. It's no fun when it happens to Law-Abiding White Citizens, is it?

Welcome to the world of the average joe, where you get profiled based on the make, model and license plate of your car; whether you are speeding; which direction you are traveling on the turnpike; they run your plates and surprise! you have a CCW permit or a prior felony conviction or whatever; and ta-da! you fit the profile of someone who probably needs to be stopped. Then they follow you. They CAN follow you for any reason, or no reason, waiting for you to do something, and you will (nobody can drive perfectly for 50 miles while being followed), and then they will stop you.

85% of the time, the person so stopped will have something in the car that is illegal--drugs, money related to drugs, illegal weapons, SOMETHING that turns a pretext stop into a legitimate stop. This is one of the few documented times the person had nothing. But there was Absolutely. Nothing. Illegal. about this search. Nothing.

What's good for the goose is good for the White Law Abiding Citizen from Florida who Left His Gun at Home. Sucks, don't it?
 
2014-01-15 12:13:58 AM

fusillade762: jaylectricity: Where'd you steal that silly rant that has nothing to do with this article or any of the comments before yours?

I think it's original work. Google doesn't come up with a single instance of the phrase "satanic hypocrisy".


Well then he blew his load too early.
 
2014-01-15 12:14:31 AM

Marcus Aurelius: First Kally says, "I don't know." Retelling it later she says, "And that's all I should have said." Instead, attempting to be helpful, she added, "Maybe in the glove [box] "

Wow.  Talk about a lack of prior planning.

The guy was going to talk his way out of a ticket by showing the cop his CC.  That only works in a state where it's valid.  Otherwise YOU DON'T MENTION IT.

And then he doesn't clue his wife in first?

Yikes.


Except that Maryland honors Florida concealed carry permits.

source: http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

He's from Florida, was traveling through Maryland (or so I surmised from the crappily-written article). The transit cop had no standing whatsoever and, like MANY police officers nationwide, did not know his own state's gun laws (actual gun owners--particularly concealed carry holders, are required to know them and often know them far better than police). The citizen is correct, the cop is wrong. Period.
 
m00
2014-01-15 12:15:03 AM

RexTalionis: This article is terribly written. What the hell is going on?


Cop got behind dude with out-of-state tags. Ran the tags through the computer. Came up CCW holder. Now, in Maryland they have some very specific laws about transporting a firearm. Cop pulls him over. WHERES THE GUN. Guy left it at home. So cop asks the wife. YOUR HUSBAND IS LYING WHERES THE GUN. Wife goes I dunno, I hate guns.

Tear up dude's car, write him a warning.
 
2014-01-15 12:15:47 AM

Gecko Gingrich: I'm not sure of a lot of things, but one thing I'm 100% sure about: the version of events given in the article is not accurate.


Yeah I am guessing that there in very little true to this story or very little that is not exaggerated/warped
 
2014-01-15 12:16:03 AM
How the hell would the cop know he was a gun owner? I see some guesses so far in this thread, but only that - total guesses. Does anyone actually know how this would be possible? Because so far I'm pretty skeptical about this.
 
2014-01-15 12:17:25 AM
Livingroom: some nonsense

Haha!  you wrote the word 'satanic' and you were not referring to metal.
 
2014-01-15 12:17:46 AM

Livingroom: based on all these comments, it looks like even though we see dozens of articles a week here on Fark showing police doing illegal, immoral, intimidating asshole things to other people, we don't believe it can happen to a responsible gun owner just because he is a gun owner.

every time a story like this gets posted, the uneducated idiot liberal brigade goes on and on about how theres no way it could have happened like the story says.

You liberal shiatheads need to die in a fire. you're destroying everything that is good in life and this country with your rampant unchecked satanic hypocrisy. seriously, you are mind-farked. brainwashed. you deserve the everlasting torment you will get after you march right up and DEMAND to be given the mark of the beast when it comes out.

and im sure you'll call me a troll or a religious fanatic etc. that's fine; i know where you're going, and pretending i'm crazy or that it wont happen to you will not stop it from happening to you.


Dude. Seriously. Seek help.
 
2014-01-15 12:18:02 AM

Gyrfalcon: Ah, the pretext stop. It's no fun when it happens to Law-Abiding White Citizens, is it?

Welcome to the world of the average joe, where you get profiled based on the make, model and license plate of your car; whether you are speeding; which direction you are traveling on the turnpike; they run your plates and surprise! you have a CCW permit or a prior felony conviction or whatever; and ta-da! you fit the profile of someone who probably needs to be stopped. Then they follow you. They CAN follow you for any reason, or no reason, waiting for you to do something, and you will (nobody can drive perfectly for 50 miles while being followed), and then they will stop you.

85% of the time, the person so stopped will have something in the car that is illegal--drugs, money related to drugs, illegal weapons, SOMETHING that turns a pretext stop into a legitimate stop. This is one of the few documented times the person had nothing. But there was Absolutely. Nothing. Illegal. about this search. Nothing.

What's good for the goose is good for the White Law Abiding Citizen from Florida who Left His Gun at Home. Sucks, don't it?


Yep, sure. Let's go ahead and justify a flagrant authoritarian power trip because no body talks about it when it happens to non-white people.

Except, people do care (e.g. New York's stop and frisk debacle).

The fact that this guy owned a gun in another state should not be a legitimate pretext for treating him like a criminal and ransacking his car.
 
2014-01-15 12:18:18 AM
Correction: misclicked. Maryland doesn't have reciprocity. But he wasn't carrying (because as stated, he knew the law) so the point is moot.

And if the wife is afraid of the gun, then no she wouldn't know or care.
 
2014-01-15 12:18:40 AM

Beerguy: Dimensio: People scoff, but tough gun control like this is why even large cities in Maryland, such as Baltimore, experience such low rates of violent crime.

LOL.

I have driven through Baltimore and it was one of the scariest looking shiatholes I have ever been through.

/Grew up in East L.A.
//Did delivery work in the scary parts of Dallas
///Frequented the strip club district in Lawton, OK while in the Army
////End shiathole expert cred


I've seen shiat holes in Central / South America mate. None of them beats shiat holes in the southern US. Heck, I've been to gulags that are better than the redneck shiat holes.

This guy? Yeah. I'm guessing we have a very biased partial story. Not saying it was a right or wrong stop, just stating the obvious. I'm not making a decision on this kind of information.
 
m00
2014-01-15 12:18:44 AM

mongbiohazard: How the hell would the cop know he was a gun owner? I see some guesses so far in this thread, but only that - total guesses. Does anyone actually know how this would be possible? Because so far I'm pretty skeptical about this.


Yeah it comes up when they run your plates. For the safety of all involved, so the cop knows up front whether the guy has a gun and also won't flip out if he sees a gun in the car.
 
2014-01-15 12:19:14 AM
So, this is just further confirmation that we are living in a Nazi-esque police state?  An honest business owner, never in trouble with the law, gets harassed by THE MAN as if he is some scumbag drug dealer.  What gives???  That is one sad, sick, crazy story.  This can't be the United States of America anymore.  Some other force has taken over our country.

/wise up- the police are no longer about To Serve And Protect; that has all changed in the recent past
//thank God he wasn't executed in front of his family (for no good reason) like has happened some other places
 
2014-01-15 12:20:24 AM

edmo: So with a CCW, a white guys can now be treated like a brown person.

That's regressive.


>> we're all brown now.
 
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